Janeane Garofalo, meet Katrina Pierson

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 20, 2009 04:49 PM

Just watch. Katrina Pierson, a young mother who spoke at the Dallas Tea Party, sends a clear message to race-card playing twits like Janeane Garofalo: “Not all of us are hypnotized.”

Amen:

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  1. #1
    On April 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    The Clinton years saw the deficit morph into a $128 billion surplus. No tea parties. No dancing in the streets. No waving of signs and rejoicing that our children’s futures were secure. That’s a good thing because the first year of George W. Bush’s presidency that surplus turned into a $133 billion deficit. We hadn’t seen nuthin’ yet.

    Last September the deficit had ballooned to more than $10 trillion. In eight years, no tea parties; hardly a mumbling word until the bailouts began last September. No one complained that a lame duck president, who kept war spending off the books — just like Wall Street accountants fiddled with their derivative Ponzi schemes — had royally screwed up.

    So here we are. Folks are upset. Why now? The answer is simple. The people twirling tea bags and making signs and creating a big fuss — inspired by talk radio mavens — are really mad because they lost the November elections — and they lost to Barack Obama.

    But none of them claim his race is a problem – hmm…..

  2. #2
    On April 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, BuckNutty said:

    Garofalo has already dismissed the opinion of conservative women and minorities. She says they have Stockholm Syndrome.

    Garofalo is a sexist, racist pig.

  3. #3
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    That’s the best video clip you will never see in the MSM.

  4. #4
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Of course if you’re Garofalo, all you saw was a clip of white people standing around.

  5. #5
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I’m sure she isn’t authentically ethnic enough for purposes of refuting Garofolo’s smears.

  6. #6
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Check out the canned response from in post one.

    That’s awesomely awesome. Hmmm…Google is your friend, “Ilovemycountry”

    You might want to cite the source of your canned stuff next time.

  7. #7
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Seriously, have you ever stopped to reflect on why the Left is so obsessed with finding or attributing racism to every social issue where the Right is thought to be gaining an advantage? Could it be that this hypersensitivity to racism indicates a denial of some racial equality issues within the liberal movement itself?

  8. #8
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Check out the canned response from in post one.

  9. #9
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, love2rumba said:

    The Clinton years saw the deficit morph into a $128 billion surplus. No tea parties. No dancing in the streets. No waving of signs and rejoicing that our children’s futures were secure. That’s a good thing because the first year of George W. Bush’s presidency that surplus turned into a $133 billion deficit. We hadn’t seen nuthin’ yet.

    Last September the deficit had ballooned to more than $10 trillion. In eight years, no tea parties; hardly a mumbling word until the bailouts began last September. No one complained that a lame duck president, who kept war spending off the books — just like Wall Street accountants fiddled with their derivative Ponzi schemes — had royally screwed up.

    So here we are. Folks are upset. Why now? The answer is simple. The people twirling tea bags and making signs and creating a big fuss — inspired by talk radio mavens — are really mad because they lost the November elections — and they lost to Barack Obama.

    But none of them claim his race is a problem – hmm…..

    You seem to forget a few things, ILMC,

    Clinton was forced to do that by a then conservative Republican congress from 1994 on. It sure as h@ll wasn’t something he stood on-it was kind of forced on him -like Welfare Reform.

    Oh yes while we at it, does anyone remember the inflationary ’70s? Democrats couldn’t control spending there either-even though it cost Jimmy Carter the white house.

    GW Bush on the other hand was an anomaly in that he wasn’t fiscally conservative in the first place.

  10. #10
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, spaceycakes said:

    LOL PB–I thought it had just learned some new words this morning…

    ilovemycount–Polly wanna cracker?

  11. #11
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    No one complained that a lame duck president, who kept war spending off the books — just like Wall Street accountants fiddled with their derivative Ponzi schemes — had royally screwed up.

    You are a collectivist idiot. Lots of people complained, including people on this website. Even people like Limbaugh and Hannity and Coulter complained (remember the complaints about how Bush wouldn’t use his veto?)

    Here’s a better reason for why protests are happening at a louder and quicker pace:

    Because our freedoms are being ripped away from us in the form of tyrannical taxation at a frighteningly accelerated pace.

    I couldn’t care less how much melanin Obama has in his damned skin. Or in yours. Or in anyone’s, for that matter.

    You’re not going to convince anyone here that socialism is good by calling us all racists, you jerk.

  12. #12
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, drivingjack said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, BuckNutty said:

    Garofalo has already dismissed the opinion of conservative women and minorities. She says they have Stockholm Syndrome.

    Garofalo is a sexist, racist pig.

    How dare you insult a pig like that! Pigs are very intelligent creatures, and smell better than Liberals.

  13. #13
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, DBNinKY said:

    That’s a good thing because the first year of George W. Bush’s presidency that surplus turned into a $133 billion deficit.

    What happened in that first year to help erase the so-called surplus? (So-called because it really wasn’t a surplus at all, but a projection over time.)

  14. #14
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, undresiege said:

    Smart lady, but for the secession talk. When a legal election doesn’t go your way, you don’t bit!# and try to take your ball and go home. You learn from your mistakes, mobilize and try to do better next time.

    I’m tired of so-called patriotic Americans talking about breaking up the union because they’re side didn’t win office. We need Texas and Texas needs us. Stop the foolishness.

  15. #15
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Check out the canned response from in post one.

    Well, now we know that IHMC is none other than Charles E. Richardson of the The Macon Telegraph. ;)

  16. #16
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, ClassicFilm said:

    First year of Bush? Didn’t we have a terrorist attack on America during that year? One that was devastating to all areas of American life, necessitating increased security at airports and elsewhere? And didn’t Congress agree to fund our nation by having our military go to Iraq? Gee, I know stating ALL the facts is tough, but Janeane is wrong: conservatives do indeed know some history. What is of such urgent crisis for Obama to ignore the reports of Washington economists and taxpayers throughout the country and proceed as fast as possible, fingers in his ears, with this wild spending? I think he’s trying to put into place as many socialist welfare programs as possible before the plug is pulled. The faster, the better. Don’t think, don’t read the bill, this must be done now-now-now.

    I more than “mumbled” back in September, Ilovemycountry. I sent emails and faxes to my congressmen from AZ, as well as other states. I was appalled that Bush signed that TARP package, you know… the one the Democrat majority wrote. I have been protesting at increasing levels since then. Now, the proposed budget Obama will exceed everything you want to dump on Bush. Add up everything from Washington through to Bush and Obama is still miles beyond in spending.

    One day, I heard there was going to be a tax protest tea party at the State Capitol in my state. So, I went. And thousands upon thousands of others did, too. As a conservative, I don’t usually scream in front of a TV camera mic as many liberals do. I write and make calls and protect my vote. But action beyond that is now apparently necessary if we are to put a halt to this out-of-control spending.

    With all due respect, you’re a hypocrite if you have a username like “Ilovemycountry.” Because right now, America and her Constitution are under more assault than they ever were under Bush. Socialism is a deadly parasite, an ideology that has never worked. I don’t hate Obama for his race (how pinheaded of you), I hate having a president who is a socialist. If Bush had been a socialist, I would have been just as intolerant (he was liberal-lite). I hate all socialists (male, female, black, white, handicapped) who are temporary servants of our country and of its people. Because they are trying to kill the America that was created and nurtured by our founding fathers. The America that I love.

  17. #17
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, norm1111 said:

    Could it be that this hypersensitivity to racism indicates a denial of some racial equality issues within the liberal movement itself?

    This is EXACTLY what I have been saying for years….I am a reformed leftie…once I got off drugs, cleared my head and got an education, I scrambled to the conservative side. But looking back..I see the true racism in America comes directly from the lefties…the last thing a neo-Dem flower child (perfect example, J Garofalo) wants to see is an educated clear thinking black woman taking them to the proverbial woodshed..their worst nightmare. To them, this young woman doesn’t know her place…she should be in the projects, on welfare and complaining about her life to race baiting politicians.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing this young lady on the pundit circut…she would do well…

  18. #18
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, undresiege said:

    they’re their

  19. #19
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Terri said:

    Wow! Very powerful. Put her in charge. I agree with the ealier sentiment: Amen! Watch out Sarah, there are more behind you. Thank God!

  20. #20
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, Jet Jaguar said:
    Well, now we know that IHMC is none other than Charles E. Richardson of the The Macon Telegraph. ;)

    Or Joe Biden…he likes to claim the work of others as his own, too.

  21. #21
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:24 pm, pajacobs78 said:

    LoveCountry:

    Bugger off! Go spew your garbage with the left.

  22. #22
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    PBoilermaker said:

    Nice catch! Haha, and he even plagiarizes a stupid article…

  23. #23
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, undresiege said:
    I’m tired of so-called patriotic Americans talking about breaking up the union because they’re side didn’t win office. We need Texas and Texas needs us. Stop the foolishness.

    I’m tired of people like you mischaracterizing (I’m being kind) the reasons they are discussing such things.

    Refuting nearly every argument against the reckless policies of this administration with some form of “Oh yeah? Well, you just say that because he’s blaaaaaack!” is weak and dishonest at best.

  24. #24
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:28 pm, txmom3 said:

    She was AWESOME!

    She should run for an office because she has the grit & idea’s I hold dear !

  25. #25
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Katrina – yeah!

  26. #26
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, cwbois said:

    Ilovemycountry

    Sigh, so you don’t agree with the Tea Party folks, so be it that’s ok. But I am damn tired of boobs like you calling me a racist every time I don’t agree with Obama. I am no longer going to try to defend myself with regards to this type of baseless attack, believe what you want its obvious that there can be no civil discourse with those like you that must attack others you disagree with in such a manner. There is such a thing as a poor winner and you exhibit all the signs of such.

  27. #27
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, flmom said:

    PBoilermaker said:

    Good catch. Hmm, could ILMC be Biden?

  28. #28
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    She has a home with a swimming pool! Obama, call your Auntie, we’ve found her a place to stay! Not.

  29. #29
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm, flmom said:

    Sorry PB, I posted before I saw #20.

  30. #30
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, undresiege said:
    ………..
    I’m tired of so-called patriotic Americans talking about breaking up the union because they’re side didn’t win office. We need Texas and Texas needs us. Stop the foolishness.

    Undre, secession has been brewing for awhile (red states/blue states). My “side” would have lost the election even if McCain had won. In fact, even if every Democrat gets replaced with a Republican, the USA is still going into the crapper. The GOP and Dems are going to the same place. We must return to Constitutional Conservatism in order to survive as a whole nation. Otherwise, the polarization of Conservatives and Collectivists will continue to increase to the point of a real secessionist movement or worse… and it isn’t “foolishness”. Conservatives’ concerns are becoming more marginalized by the day (by our elected officials). Secession may be a premature option at this point, but to dismiss Conservatives as racist, Bible-thumping, right wing, and the like, isn’t helping to prevent the likelihood of exercising such options.

  31. #31
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, Salt said:

    Hey, ilovemycountry, if you are going to quote someone directly, you might want to give them credit.

    This is where ilovemycountry got his post: http://www.newsobserver.com/1573/story/1493315.html

  32. #32
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, Salt said:

    Sorry, PBoilermaker. I responded to the plagiarism before I saw you already had.

  33. #33
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, The Ugly American said:

    Speaking of Garofalo…she recently voiced a series of TV ads for Weight Watchers.

    Janeane had this to say about the gig, quote, “I do it for money. I don’t do it for the love of diet” [starts @10:30]

    Wow…I couldn’t think of a more enthusiastic spokesperson for Weight Watchers can you?

  34. #34
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Ok, ok, she got a job but is she married

  35. #35
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, undresiege said:

    Refuting nearly every argument against the reckless policies of this administration with some form of “Oh yeah? Well, you just say that because he’s blaaaaaack!” is weak and dishonest at best

    I obviously have never made such an argument, and agree with MM and others on the reckless charges of racism.

    I’m tired of people like you mischaracterizing (I’m being kind) the reasons they are discussing such things.

    I’m not mischaracterizing a dang thing. If you’re upset about an election you lost fair and square, and don’t like the new policies, you mobilize and try to take the office(s) back through the political processes. Get out the vote.

    You don’t huffnpuff and ask to secede from the greatest Union in the history of man because things aren’t going your way. It’s ludicrous, weak, and lazy.

    And before anybody brings up us and Britain in the 1700s save me the extremely phony equivalency and grow up.

  36. #36
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:39 pm, Salt said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, The Ugly American said:

    Speaking of Garofalo…she recently voiced a series of TV ads for Weight Watchers.

    Janeane had this to say about the gig, quote, “I do it for money. I don’t do it for the love of diet” [starts @10:30]

    Wow…I couldn’t think of a more enthusiastic spokesperson for Weight Watchers can you?

    That’s probably the same mentality that she applies to just about everything else for which she advocates.

  37. #37
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:39 pm, Lindsay said:

    Great speech. This lady needs to run for office!

  38. #38
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:42 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    …and besides, a lot of my friends are Black, er.. African American. No, I mean colored. Oh heck, just substitute the least offensive term current en vogue.

  39. #39
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:44 pm, T-Bone said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, undresiege said:
    Smart lady, but for the secession talk. When a legal election doesn’t go your way, you don’t bit!# and try to take your ball and go home.

    It’s called Al Gore syndrome. What goes around comes around.

  40. #40
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, flmom said:

    Ok, ok, she got a job but is she married

    Aww, Alohaguy’s in love.

  41. #41
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, undresiege said:


    You don’t huffnpuff and ask to secede from the greatest Union in the history of man because things aren’t going your way. It’s ludicrous, weak, and lazy.

    You’re right, Conservatives are weak and lazy and because we aren’t getting our way, we’re going to take our toys and go home. I guess libs’ concerns are the only legitimate issues that exist. Keep it up, man. You’ll see what happens.

  42. #42
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:56 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, undresiege said:
    I’m not mischaracterizing a dang thing.

    Really? You seem to think the Texans who are saying these things (as well as others) are just upset about an election result and this is merely a petty, unwarranted tantrum on their part.

    You fail to recognize (intentionally or not) that what is happening to this country due to the unchecked political power of this administration and congress is something to be rightfully concerned about. Washington isn’t listening, the GOP has rolled over and our country is being damaged as a result.

    I don’t believe for a second that they will try to secede and I don’t even think it is smart to actually pursue that course of action. However, if being cavalier about “secession talk” is the only way to bring attention to the cause of such talk (what the current crop of unchecked politicians is doing to harm the union), so be it.

  43. #43
    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:58 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, undresiege said:

    I’m not mischaracterizing a dang thing. If you’re upset about an election you lost fair and square, and don’t like the new policies, you mobilize and try to take the office(s) back through the political processes. Get out the vote.

    You mean like ACORN? You mean we should get MICKEY MOUSE and DONALD DUCK to help out OUR SIDE next time around?

    Gee! Thanks for that tip! Fair and square! You must mean like Sponge Bob Square Pants! Thanks, Mean Joe Green!

    You don’t huffnpuff and ask to secede from the greatest Union in the history of man because things aren’t going your way. It’s ludicrous, weak, and lazy.

    Okay – I’ll try it the ACORN way.

    And before anybody brings up us and Britain in the 1700s save me the extremely phony equivalency and grow up.

    You’re right! By god you’re right! The British only imposed a dinky little tax on Tea! Whereas we have our entire INCOMES taxed – federal, state, local – that makes us work months and months out of the year as slaves to the State.

    By God, there is NO COMPARISON to the tyranny of the British Empire in the 1700′s and the tyranny of the U.S. federal government today.

    Thank you for setting that straight.

  44. #44
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm, RetFireman said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Check out the canned response from in post one.

    BWAHA HA HA HA!!!!

    I think that is just awesome PB! In one little post, you demonstrated exactly what I have said all along…as has others. That Liberals and the trolls do nothing more than parrot what they read on their little Liberal hate-sites and what their overlords tell them to. They have not one single solitary original thought amongst the lot of them, and they are nothing more than hypocrites, projecting their own beliefs onto Conservatives.

    Just beautiful. No wonder they all voted for a ticket that included Biden.

  45. #45
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, zorro said:

    Wow, that was great! Katrina Pierson is a good spokesperson for the “movement”. The Thomas Jefferson quotes really hit home.

    As for the “my side won” comments above, like ilovemycountry, well, they are just wrong. No need to specify which statement because everything they say is wrong. Typical of those who are “hypnotized” by the Chavez inspired MSM.

  46. #46
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, conservativesRus said:

    undresiege: please explain how “talking of seceding” is not smart.
    It seems to me R. Reagan said “the democrats left him” – so he seceded from them. Many many conservatives have had the Republicans leave them so they “seceded”.
    Why not Texas?

  47. #47
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, undresiege said:

    Really? You seem to think the Texans who are saying these things (as well as others) are just upset about an election result and this is merely a petty, unwarranted tantrum on their part.

    It’s election results. They aren’t happy about how they’re being governed.

    You fail to recognize (intentionally or not) that what is happening to this country due to the unchecked political power of this administration and congress is something to be rightfully concerned about. Washington isn’t listening, the GOP has rolled over and our country is being damaged as a result.

    Then you mobilize, lobby, and try to win over minds. GOTV. Quit bit!@$! and do something about it. If elections continue not to go your way, you keep trying. If you don’t want to try, “love it , or leave it”.

    I

    don’t believe for a second that they will try to secede and I don’t even think it is smart to actually pursue that course of action. However, if being cavalier about “secession talk” is the only way to bring attention to the cause of such talk (what the current crop of unchecked politicians is doing to harm the union), so be it.

    No what the secession talk does is make one look delusional and childish.

    Let’s talk about the logistics of secession. The federal govt won’t be like, “OK Texas, sorry it didn’t work out.”

  48. #48
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, Jaded said:

    How right she is socialism would have made a crappy CHOICE for her but freedom GIVES you two roads to choose from! God Bless America….now lets stop these tools!

  49. #49
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, jpmzo said:

    Not only is this woman reasoned, measured, and moderate; but she is soooo much easier on the eyes… which isn’t difficult, considering who we’re comparing her to here.

    ;p

  50. #50
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:10 pm, undresiege said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 5:58 pm, FilmLadd said:

    That post in too laughably unfocused and absurd to respond to in a rational manner. I do give you credit for not using the word “collectivist”

    Now go make a list of all of the similarities to the American Revolution of the late 1700s and all of the differencs. I’ll check your work tomorrow. Let’s make it tomorrow at 2pm on the main topic thread. Kay? Kay.

  51. #51
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:11 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, undresiege said:Let’s talk about the logistics of secession. The federal govt won’t be like, “OK Texas, sorry it didn’t work out.”

    You are correct in that.
    And exactly who do you think would be willing to go fight Texas to keep them from leaving.
    Further – do you know what the 10th Amendment says? The “shorthand” version is that it says something about pecking order and that the States are higher in the pecking order than the feds.

  52. #52
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:12 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, undresiege said:
    It’s election results. They aren’t happy about how they’re being governed.

    Exactly…by both parties! Are you trying to be obtuse, or do you really think this is simply about Dem vs Republican?

    Don’t spout your community organizing claptrap to me. That is a political solution and I’m talking about problems that cross political boundaries…real problems. The Texans, with their “secession talk”, are talking about the real problems this nation faces, not political losses in a vacuum.

    I’m trying to take you seriously, but it’s hard to do when you keep avoiding the premise of the argument at hand.

  53. #53
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, RetFireman said:

    Don’t you just love that the Libs are so small minded as to think all of this has to do with the election and who won? Isn’t it just so telling the way the Libs are only able to hthink that the reason we are up in arms against the Socialist policies that the Obama Administration not only has put into place, but is also planning on putting into place has nothing to do with anything other than the color of his skin?

    Are Liberals really so small minded and ignorant as to think everything revolves around race and winning?

    It is just that thinking that will erase the Democrat Party once all the people they bamboozled with empty promises from an empty suit finally figure out just what happened. All the gloating, all the name calling of the very people that put him in office only to find out just exactly what “Hope” and “Change” really meant…

    Yeah, keep it up guys. Watch what happens over the next 19 months. When you are standing around wondering, “Wha happun?”, remember all those calls of “raaaacist” worked oh so well.

  54. #54
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Ok, ok, she got a job but is she married
    Aww, Alohaguy’s in love.

    Yes, I love strong, independent, intelligent women. :)

    And the occasional Bimbo;)

    (sorry, the photo is a repeat from yesterday but it’s still making me laugh.)

  55. #55
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm, undresiege said:

    undresiege: please explain how “talking of seceding” is not smart.
    It seems to me R. Reagan said “the democrats left him” – so he seceded from them. Many many conservatives have had the Republicans leave them so they “seceded”.
    Why not Texas?

    CR it’s one thing to cop the term secede to changing one’s ideology, or say that a party’s ideological path left you behind.

    Now seriously, Texas decides to secede. Of course Washington, will be like, “uh, no you won’t.” Chuck Norris, Katrina Pierson and like minded folk decided to go to war to leave the union, and achieve soverignty. How will Texas defeat the most powerful military in the world? Who will their allies be? Logistically, tell me how Texas will successfully secede from the Union?
    It’s petulant crazytalk. If you love your country you fight FOR IT. Period.

  56. #56
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm, TXRose said:

    I don’t have time to read everyone’s comment but,
    Texas has no amendment for secession. It can be
    divided up into as many as five states. However, I don’t remember a time when Conservatives felt so
    strongly about anything as now and I am surely proud
    of all of us who are standing up and attending tea
    parties or speakouts or whatever you want to call them!

  57. #57
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:19 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm, RetFireman said:

    I try :) I see I’m not the only one who noticed, though.

    ILMC hasn’t chimed back in yet, either. I wonder if he’s just some lazy hack or the actual author of that editorial? Either way, “he” is laughably ignorant (not that I took his posts seriously to begin with).

  58. #58
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:23 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    It’s petulant crazytalk. If you love your country you fight FOR IT. Period.

    What do you think we are doing? Unlike you, we see detrimental politicians for what they are despite the color of their skin or the letter after their name. Why can’t you seem to get past those two aspects with regard to the problems we face?

    Out of curiosity, why did Obama’s voters (and Obama himself) not think this country was worth fighting for before the election?

  59. #59
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:23 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:10 pm, undresiege said:

    I do give you credit for not using the word “collectivist”

    Collectivist, Collectivist, Collectivist, infinity Collectivist…

  60. #60
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, undresiege said:

    Exactly…by both parties! Are you trying to be obtuse, or do you really think this is simply about Dem vs Republican?

    Democratic v. Republican is YOUR strawman. Let me be clear: SECESSIONISTS ARE UNHAPPY WITH HOW THEY’RE BEING GOVERENED. THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH HOW THE ELECTIONS HAVE TURNED OUT. THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE POLICIES IN PLACE. Got that. I’m not talking about them only being upset with Democrats. That’s your strawman. I’m fully aware of ultra-conservative dissatisfaction with many republcian leaders in congress. If you don’t like how the elections turned out, and you don’t like the policiess you fight, and fight, or move. You don’t and can’t secede. Now, hopefully you are clear on my position, and not confused (intentionally or not).

  61. #61
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, undresiege said:

    Using CAPS LOCK doesn’t make a weak argument stronger.

    You’re all over the place.

    Go ahead, respond with more CAPS!

  62. #62
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm, undresiege said:

    You didn’t answer the fundamental question. Who is going to stop them. Saying “the military” presumes the military believes Washington is their rightful head.

    If you love your country you fight FOR IT. Period.

    That presumes the country that exists now is worth fighting for. I could just as easily argue that the country worth fighting for died 20 years ago. Which is easier – reviving the dead or creating something new?

  63. #63
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm, undresiege said:

    Who will their allies be?

    Other like-minded states following Texas’s lead and most of the military.

  64. #64
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, calamityville said:

    Katrina was fantastic. She is the idiot dems worst nightmare.

  65. #65
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, RetFireman said:

    ILMC hasn’t chimed back in yet, either. I wonder if he’s just some lazy hack or the actual author of that editorial?

    Yeah…I noticed his amazing disappearance as well. Are you shocked? As far as whether or not he is the original author…are you kidding? You have read his posts in the past. can you honestly say you believe that he could wrote anything worthy of being published that didn’t start out, “Dear Penthouse…”

  66. #66
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:31 pm, jencab said:

    Great American story. You can’t get that in any other country.

  67. #67
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm, undresiege said:

    Go ahead, respond with more CAPS!

    Sigh, it’s not about the caps. I’m clarifying that I was never making this a Republican v. Dem. deal but rather you were. My views are clear. You are playing games because you’re out of substance. I’m sorry you wasted my time. L and L.

  68. #68
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:34 pm, undresiege said:

    Other like-minded states following Texas’s lead and most of the military.

    If you’re willing to give your personal email, I’d love to wager 4-5 figures with you.

  69. #69
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    I’m sorry you wasted my time. L and L.

    The feeling is mutual.

  70. #70
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, RetFireman said:

    You know what? They are right. Had Obama not been elected, Porkulus may not have happened…at least maybe it would have been allowed time to be given a proper reading and debate. Had he not been elected there would not now be the biggest Socialist power-grab in the history of the United States going on without any chance of it being stopped until the first opportunity in 19 months, thus people would not be so angry about what Obama is doing.

    So yeah…in the obscurity of Liberalese…yeah, we are not happy about Obama being elected. If that is really difficult for them to understand, then I guess we can understand why.

  71. #71
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm, conservativesRus said:

    undresiege:
    I think you are the one claiming that secession talk is only the result of the election. I submit that it’s not the result of a specific election but rather the result of a rather substantive turn toward socialism of this country. Texans believe the country is leaving them – not the other way around.

  72. #72
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm, undresiege said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, conservativesRus said:

    I don’t know what to tell you CR, if you think that a Civil War is the answer I’m glad to know that your view is the minority view.

    Regarding the military, no I don’t think that secessionists will be able to convince our military(or enough of them) to aid in their attempts to desolve the Union.

    We are discussing some Hollywood film scenario, and it simply isn’t going to happen.

  73. #73
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:39 pm, T-Bone said:

    I thought the tea parties were a form of organizing so the next election is won by people that the tea party people want.

    As well as working so the current guy doesn’t implement policies we DIDN’T vote for.

    Or to make sure that he doesn’t think he gets free rein with no oppostion in regards to taxation.

    Or to remind Obama that not everyone voted for him. His ego seems to think everyone voted for him and we are “all in” with him.

    What seems to be the problem with that? Oh yeah, you don’t want it to succeed. Takes a while to blow by all the BS.

  74. #74
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm, undresiege said:

    undresiege:

    I think you are the one claiming that secession talk is only the result of the election. I submit that it’s not the result of a specific election but rather the result of a rather substantive turn toward socialism of this country. Texans believe the country is leaving them – not the other way around.

    It’s the result of many elections. If you don’t like the way you’re being governed or the policies in place. That’s common sense.

  75. #75
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:42 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, RetFireman said:

    Sorry – gotta disagree with you a mite. McCain demonstrates over and over the same socialistic tendencies. He says “smaller gov’t” but then votes policies which centralize control. He even went back to DC during the campaign and voted for some of the handouts. Speculating on where McCain would have us now is just that – speculating and not especially productive but I doubt it would be too far different.

  76. #76
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:45 pm, T-Bone said:

    Forget seccession. Lets go for a coup de tet!

    All we need is the military. Oh we already have them. And soon, all those right wing, gun toting, already trained killing machines will not be busy fighting wars and I heard they are prime recruiting centers. Now we’re talking.

  77. #77
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:48 pm, walterc said:

    If you don’t like how the elections turned out, and you don’t like the policies you fight, and fight, or move.

    Isn’t fighting to change government what the TEA parties are all about?

    When La Raza and the rest of the open borders crowd holds a rally, they are fighting to change the immigration laws. Are they not? Or are they just racists (I realize they’re racist, but for argument purposes, bear with me) unhappy with the election results?

  78. #78
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:49 pm, John Deaux said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Just words.

    Not yours though.

    In the vein of Obama/Biden/ILMC, let me see what you guys think of my new speech. It goes like this…

    Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

    What do you think of it so far?

  79. #79
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:50 pm, NJRepublican said:

    Wow! How did she give that great speech without the use of a teleprompter?

  80. #80
    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:52 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    I doubt that we could ever take our Country back through the normal election process. The system is rigged to perpetuate an ever expanding and pervasive Federal government via the two party system. The GOP pretends to fight for the Conservative cause to give us false hope. This facilitates huge power grabs by the Democrats. When the GOP returns to power, notice that they largely don’t roll back what the Dems have done. They just maintain it until the Dems return to power, and so the cycle continues. The Republicans of today are what the Democrats were years ago. We’re being slowly ratcheted to the left and to tyranny.

    Go vote, you say? What hope do Conservatives have when we’re outnumbered by looting leftists looking for a government handout? We’ve transitioned from a Republic (rule-by-law) to a Democracy (mob-rule). I cite as a recent example of the Al Franken “defeat” of Norm Coleman. How is that “missing” ballots kept showing up for Franken but none for Coleman. It’s a statistical miracle. We Conservatives go out and vote, but deep down, we know that the election is rigged, and even the candidates that we are offered with any real chance of winning are actually in-the-tank with the left. Right, aisle-reacher McCain? (your arm must be 40 feet long by now).

    It’s depressing, but I see no alternative but to secede, or at least a trial separation of some kind.

  81. #81
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:48 pm, walterc said:Isn’t fighting to change government what the TEA parties are all about?

    It is. Talk of secession, however unrealistic, is the Texas way to bring attention to the problem.

    I know that. You know that. The “love it or leave it” argument is only applicable to people who profess their hatred for their country, not those who love their country and hate how it is being destroyed.

    There is a fundamental difference.

    I don’t know about other tea parties, but our local events began with the Star Spangled Banner and ended with God Bless America. It wasn’t about the race of the POTUS or party affiliations, it was about preserving our country in the face of those that are actively trying to harm it.

  82. #82
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:04 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    Why secede if the military is against it ? Think again…I doubt the grunts would favor attacking the south.

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/images/CDA08-05_map1.gif

    I see that’s a side-effect of not wanting to serve your country. Blue states are under-represented while, the red states are over-represented. So, where’s Barrys birth certificate ?
    :shock:

  83. #83
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    The oath of office swears allegiance to the Constitution…Where are the liberals on this issue ?
    crickets…always crickets…

  84. #84
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:34 pm, undresiege said:

    Other like-minded states following Texas’s lead and most of the military.

    If you’re willing to give your personal email, I’d love to wager 4-5 figures with you.

    The terms of that bet would have to be in bartered goods or services. By the time secession occurs, money will be worthless. I’ll give you some pigs if you win (assuming that I’m not dead or in a Federal prison camp) and you can help me build some barricades if I win. We’ll need ‘em to fence out the angry blue state hordes.

  85. #85
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Ilovemycountry said:

    Not much at all, has no clue as to the motive of most of the Tea Party patrons and really does not care. But then Ilovemycountry loves a country I do not know, be a part of and fear greatly. History is full of the Ilovemycountry types-all of them bad.

    The Axelrods, Ilovemycountry, Janeane Garofalo and Obamanites of every stripe will do what they can to stifle dissent. If mockery, the Fairness Doctrine and the Federal Elections Commission does not silence us they WILL use other means, some violent and some not but all vicious.

    As I said istory is full of the Ilovemycountry types-all of them bad. So mock away lad–most of know you and yours well.

  86. #86
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:22 pm, rambler said:

    I’m not whining because my guy lost the election. As an independant, I found that it was just another choice of the loser with a D vs the loser with an R. Palin was the only candidate making the election the least bit interesting. The dems spent the last 8 yrs whining about everything Bush did because he stole the election. Now I have to listen to the dems whining again because their guy won. We have reached the promised land and will live happily ever after because Obama will fix everything. Noone is allowed to disagree. The all powerful, all-knowing dems know what is good for us common folk. Baloney! I have been taxed enough and will not have some elitist, carreer politician continuing to vote to spend more money to fix problems that the gov created. Our present gov is run by dictators who are robbing us blind.

  87. #87
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:24 pm, frontierguy said:

    Clinton was forced to do that by a then conservative Republican congress from 1994 on. It sure as h@ll wasn’t something he stood on-it was kind of forced on him -like Welfare Reform.

    amen rumba, the problem is today, nobody knows what Congress does. The Democrats seem to really take advantage of this. Whenever anybody starts going on about Clinton, I try to tell them that Clinton’s good points were what he took credit for from what Congress did. People also don’t understand when they bring up the recession when I say, this all started in 2006. That was when the economy started going into the crapper. They will agree with me, then I ask, what happened in 2006, they have no idea. Useful idiots.

  88. #88
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm, docflash said:

    I asked the other day but now I think we need 2 new trolls.

  89. #89
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:36 pm, undresiege said:

    The terms of that bet would have to be in bartered goods or services. By the time secession occurs, money will be worthless. I’ll give you some pigs if you win (assuming that I’m not dead or in a Federal prison camp) and you can help me build some barricades if I win. We’ll need ‘em to fence out the angry blue state hordes.

    Tonguencheek or serious that’s just funny. Thanks for not playing games.

    Late

  90. #90
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:37 pm, conservative in europe said:

    ilovemycountry,

    Your first posting isn’t well thought through and is historically inaccurate.

    - Clinton did not do away with the deficit. A Republican congress worked with his administration to come up with budgets that did not contain deficit spending. The original debt was not reduced and remains to this day. (Congress controls the money – ask anyone in the Civil Service – Executive Branch – and they will tell you it’s the only reason Congress is important).

    - Bush had a war to fight (no you fool, he didn’t start it, they did). War is expensive. Aside from the war, revenue intake actually increased during Bush’s tenure. Keeping your butt safe caused the deficit.

    When the wole world wanted us to roll over and give in to Facism, Bush said no. Within 3 months of taking Office, Obama embraces the greatest human rights violators in the world today.

    But you Left Wing idiots are all for violating human rights, aren’t you? I mean, really, that’s who you support. Since 1917, 30 million people were murdered in the name of Communism (not counting actual deaths in time of war) – but hey, to you Lefties, The Communists are the good guys. Right?

  91. #91
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:39 pm, Storm Chaser said:

    Ilovemycountry, which country do you love? Your ignorance is spectacular.

  92. #92
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:42 pm, Storm Chaser said:

    I once was a fan of Janeane Garafalo and posted on a message board devoted to her. My wife and I attended a TEA Party, and we took her insults personally. I quit and some one e mailed me that the message board is lit up with angry messages. The lady who wrote me thinks that woman went too far this time. At least I take comfort in that.

  93. #93
    On April 20th, 2009 at 7:44 pm, atheling said:

    undresiege:

    Do you think that Texas would be the only state to secede? I’m willing to bet that OK, LA, AL, GA, ND, SD, MT, WY and AK would follow suit. And I also believe that a huge exodus of conservatives from blue states will join the secessionist states to FIGHT with them.

    Do you think that our military would attack fellow Americans for wanting out of a “Union” that has slid into socialism and Big Government?

    You are clueless about our men and women in uniform.

  94. #94
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm, flmom said:

    AlohaGuy said:

    All I can say, is you have great taste, not withstanding the bimbo reference, hey we all have our vices.
    Katrina had me at choices. She chose independence, the hard route. Dependence would have been the easy choice for her to take. A very smart lady once told me that life is made up of choices. You own your choices in life, and reap what those choices bring. The USA was once a country of choices, now those choices are being defined by the Government, when they should be defined by the individual. Undersiege needs to understand that is what we on this site are lamenting.

  95. #95
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    undresiege:
    Do you think that our military would attack fellow Americans for wanting out of a “Union” that has slid into socialism and Big Government?

    undres:You look at it, like this is all just a few people who want to take their ball and go home because they lost one game. Its not.

    If the left wing wants to think that every person who is not a died-in-the-wool liberal and does not ascribe to the liberal agenda, is a racist (they’re not), perhaps instead, they should view every person who is not a liberal as a potential secessionist.

    Or an even better view is we are kick-your-a$$-to -the-curbists who are slowing down the car just to be nice. (roll, grandma, roll)

  96. #96
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm, thegreatbeast said:

    I don’t think we have to justify ourselves to Jinane Garofalo.

  97. #97
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm, T-Bone said:

    Liberals think we are fools that they can manipulate since they won the last couple of elections. This is a concerted effort to paint us all as Obama haters and right wing radicals so as to marginalize our impact. They succeeded in labeling Bush as a right wing facist. BDS was just an answer to his Hitler like policies and so was acceptable.

    Now they are afraid that ODS might become acceptable so they are working overtime. They are using all the tools in the toolbox. Think any of the trolls here are independent thinkers or are they doing Obama work here? (and waiting for their scraps) They are well organized and now get taxpayer funding to organize even more. There’s 50+ million Americans who know better and won’t let it slide. The fight is on!

  98. #98
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    To I love my country… who bought your computer?…. who bought your heat?, your electric and such… I hope it was you… and how did you did you do it? I hoped you worked for it. That said,if you didn’t work for all this…. go away and shut down your computer, sell it and give it to those who need more than you do…. not going to? you’re a stinking hypocrite.

  99. #99
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm, a crapweasel said:

    Ok I’m a Texan and going to be looking for a wife soon. I think I’m in love.

  100. #100
    On April 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm, undresiege said:
    Sigh, it’s not about the caps. I’m clarifying that I was never making this a Republican v. Dem. deal but rather you were. My views are clear. You are playing games because you’re out of substance.

    Interesting, since in post #14 you said:

    I’m tired of so-called patriotic Americans talking about breaking up the union because they’re side didn’t win office. We need Texas and Texas needs us. Stop the foolishness.”

    Are you aware of what you type? Say “dang” and use caps all you want, but your attempts to mischaracterize the reasons for “secession talk” are highly transparent. Like I said before, this isn’t about sore losers and political parties, this is about real problems facing our country from people of all political backgrounds.

    Not a strawman…fact.

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