Obama to sign $6 billion National Service boondoggle
The community organizer-in-chief will sign the $6 billion GIVE/SERVE legislation today. Just a reminder that only 14 Republican Senators voted against the massive national service expansion.
And some good perspective from John Miller:
Cost of the “national service bill” (the one that pays people to “volunteer”) that President Obama will sign today: $5.7 billion. That’s 57 times the amount that Obama is asking cabinet secretaries to cut from the federal budget, as a symbol of his administration’s commitment to fiscal responsibility.
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And on and on we go. Not even a handbasket. No vaseline. Just more and more worse-than-wasted money. The gift that keeps on taking…
I emailed my senator, Richard Lugar, a few weeks back asking him to vote against it. He voted FOR it.
Attn: Hoosiers! Vote AGAINST Lugar. He has seriously outlived his usefulness to our state.
Hmmm…a program to encourage people to VOLUNTEER their time and effort is going to cost $5.7 Billion dollars. That makes a lot of sense.
The government has NO business doing this!!! I need to get that cartoon that Michelle uses showing the stick figure banging his head against the wall.
Now they’ll need a supplement to this authorization to buy all of the “Brown Shirts”. This is sick!
Republicans have done more than just sell us out – they have run up the white flag and said, “We quit!” I just wish they actually would. This looks a bit like FDR’s Works Progress Administration all over again. I’m not holding my breath waiting for the Supremes to declare this unconstitutional.
How much more are we going to take? I have heard it said that America has survived difficult times in the past and will do so again. The problem is, though, with the drastic change in demographics of this country, IT IS NO LONGER THE AMERICA THAT SURVIVED IN THE PAST! As the Third-Worlders continue to colonize and engulf us, including our “president”, the more we BECOME a third-world. Until true Americans stand up and DEMAND our country back, there is little if any hope for our future.
I refuse to “volunteer”. They can’t make me “volunteer”. I will refuse to work if forced.
I will send you my address at the psychiatric hospital after I am sent away for anti-state activities.
The WOFTAM act.
(Waste of f’n time and money).
How long until “The One” requires that we all his picture in our house, in a prominent place. Make sure that it’s dusted off every day…or you could go to the hoosegow. (sp?)
Just another law to be repealed when the Republicans get control of at least one side of Congress.
Truth never was an option for Obama nor the Democrats for that matter.
In a runoff election here in Georgia a few month back, Saxby Chambliss was presented as a fiscal conservative that would fight the lunacy of the left so I went out of my way to vote for him and breathed a sigh of relief when he easily beat his Dem opponent. Then he turns around and votes for a boondoggle like this GIVE/SERVE bill, hoping nobody will notice or that it isn’t that much money in the picture or volunteering is a good thing or…
This is the mindset that is bringing this nation down and led us to the mess we are in. If we cannot get Republicans to stand firm on obviously wasteful programs like AmeriCorps, how are they ever going to make the tough budget decisions that are looming on the very near horizon (not 20 years off). If we are still having election in 6 years he will not get my vote regardless of who his opponent is.
And what is this bill supposed to exactly do?
Fixed.
You’ll be escorted there by brownshirt “volunteers”. Probably the kid that lives next door.
The new National Labor Service, putting the working man to work building a new system of autobahns, and building the new generation of the Peoples Car, so the comrades of the working class enjoy employment and new highways, well, I am absolutely giddy.
All hail our Dear Leader Obama!
I can see the tidy uniformed “volunteers” now, all marching along and singing their Obama anthems, flags flying, birds chirping, people cheering, as thousands gather in the huge stadium for long, self-aggrandizing speeches by The Leader.
Wait. I’ve seen this before…on the History Channel. Happened somewhere in Europe I think, about 77 years ago. All Hail Der Leader!
No need to worry about volunteering sdillard, before long you will be voluntold.
Only a looney, leftwing liberal would pay someone to “volunteer.”
Everyone else would call that “hireing.”
Ah yes, the most important question rarely asked by politicians before voting to put our money…..that we don’t have….into some favored person’s or organizations’ pocket.
Oh yes you will, Sdillard! Yer gonna volunteer whether you want to or not! An’ there’re gonna beat you with a whip until you like it!
Our family is packing up and moving to Texas where we hope to have a state government that plans to protect and honor American values, including the Constitution.
I really can’t take much more of this. I feel hopeless to do much of anything and it’s tearing me up inside.
And just how does tying a mandatory service requirement to college admission not violate the 13th Amendment? Oh wait – I guess Holder is going to call it “reparations.”
Buttheads, all of them.
Off to re-euducation camp for you!
thanks but I’ve already done my time for this gooberment…my freshman in college kid tells me most of his friends will refuse to serve one minute for dear leader….
Would anyone like to try to make the case that…
this is not…
FASCISM on the march…???
There are posters here who talk about “victory” being just around the corner…
when ANYONE in our Congress votes for such a monstrosity…
that is a shame.
When putative CONSERVATIVES vote for it…
the nation has departed in total from the Constitution.
“The land of the FREE, and the home of the BRAVE…?”
Sorry. Not here…
A subsidiary of Acorn.
How silly. The bill is two-fold. To train the youth of Obama’s America in the joy of labor for the sake of creating a greater America. These loyal disciples of Obama would put Obama’s Union of Soviet Socialist American States as their highest priority, and gladly inform on their misguided parents and elders, especially those who believe in the Constitution or don’t voluntarily surrender their firearms. Recall this quote from one of Dear Leader Obama’s heroes; “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”
The second, is to pay even the lazy and shiftless, and let them know the Rethuglicans would chop the program, so they will vote Democrat, and maybe even support violent demonstrations to intimidate the counter-revolutionaries who would throw tea parties and who don’t appreciate our Glorious Leader, Obama.
We need a reset button for this administration.
To me looking at all this we have a congress that are entirely in over their pay grade. This is a call to recall each and every one and we set the term limits at 1 (one ) term of 6 years then out. with no life time retirement. ARE YOU WITH US, THE TEA MUST FLOW AND BE BOILING HOT
King George had his Press Gangs. We resisted them too.The comrades will serve, patriots will resist. All of history is filled with the Nimrod, the Napoleon, Cesar, King and Tsar ready to enslave. The honest man resists, the weakling sells his wife and children for a loaf of bread.
Every generation has its fight-this is yours.
There is nothing…inside the box of normal civics…that would effect that.
I call for a tax revolt. Open. Public. Pure civil disobedience.
Starve the beast.
LC, welcome to Texas! Unfortunately a lot of it is the same ‘ol. But still, I’d rather be here than anywhere else.
Only 14 Republicans voted against this monstrosity.
More than 20 RINOs voted for the first step in compulsory, mandatory forced labor! There goes the one good argument leftists used against “The Road to Serfdom.”
The GOP is useless!
Join a real conservative party.
Join the Constitution Party.
http://www.constitutionparty.com.
I did that WarEagle82. It broke my heart to leave but it was more like the GOP left me. We are told no third party ever succeeded-now we shall find out.
People, people, people! Don’t worry. This is all just part of Obama’s overall plan. It is called the John Galt Plan and will fix everything!
Who knew Obama’s real name was Wesley Mouch!
So, do you think we are living “Atlas Shrugged” yet?
Imus Guest Howard Kurtz, CNN reliable sources, can’t produce his communist card
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/04/imus-guest-howard-kurtz-cant-produce.html
Imus gets Howard to admit that he knows exactly what the tax day tea partys were about, and they were not people protesting paying their taxes, like Paul Begala claimed. Howard Kurtz can’t spin CNN coverage so doesn’t bother but tries to deflect to Bush administration, you know wash rinse repeat
This is nothing more than a reinvention of Mao’s Cultural Revolution, which worked out so well.
I will work two jobs before my kids spend a minute in Camp Obama, singing songs about Hope and Change and marching around with their fellow “cadres” (the bill’s exact words).
I would be curious for an answer to this question from some of our resident trolls…I am not trying to encourage the trolls to hijack the thread, ONLY to answer the following question. If they try to take over, please ignore them! The question is this…
When the POTUS puts his hand on a Bible and promises under Oath that he will “preserve and protect the constitution of the United States”, and then proceeds to violate that oath by trashing some of the most precious rights as stated therein, wouldn’t that be called TREASON, and if not, why not? In case you want to pretend you don’t have a clue what I am talking about…an example of his violations of the Constitution would include, freedom of speech (Fairness Doctrine, plus his entire administration’s continual demonization of any opinions that are not in line with his, and this certainly includes the tea parties). Also, the right to bear arms, which he is systematically trying to thwart. In addition, I call your attention to the rampant voter fraud in this country which has been accelerated by Obama’s thugs in ACORN. And the systematic take-over of some large private corporations, and last but not least, this mandatory “volunteerism”! I know there are other examples of his very blatant shredding of our founding documents, but this should suffice for now. Trolls…please respond in a coherent, logical, oh never mind. Just answer the question, if you can. Thank you.
I can point to structural reasons why a third party will not solve any Constitutional problem we face.
I can show you structural reasons why a third party would take years…decades…to work, and in the interim it would dilute political power on our side of the equation.
I can show you that merely changing parties cannot be sufficient to fight this long-standing trend in American government.
You can’t secure liberty so cheaply. I may wish it were otherwise, but I know it to be true.
The way to effect the change we desire is to STARVE THE BEAST.
We must go John Galt. We must simply, non-violently refuse to be eaten.
Am currently in the middle of “The Ominous Parallels”, by Leonard Peikoff.
Published in 1982, but it could have been written last week.
Apropos of your comment, I recommend that you and all sane, patriotic Americans at this blog read this book:
AZN,
I know how you feel. You are right. The GOP left us all and sold us out on the way. They got their 30 pieces of silver. I hope they choke on it.
Don’t buy the LIE that a 3rd party cannot succeed. Remember that at one time the GOP was a THIRD PARTY! Had good people NOT joined the GOP in the 1850s slavery might yet exist in this great nation!
If enough of us join the Constitution Party we might be able to prevent slavery from coming back!
Do illegal aliens get to volunteer too?
Just a reminder of some details of the new law:
Here’s one hidden a little further down:
Everyone in the corps will get mandatory fingerprints. Good times.
Join any party you want. I may join the Constitution Party when I’ve investigated it.
That won’t restore the Commerce Clause.
It won’t…CAN’T…decentralize government power.
It won’t…CAN’T…compel observance of the Tenth Amendment.
Inside the box of normal civics, you are doomed to lose.
You have to be willing to step outside that box…
take greater risks than voting, paying taxes, going to protests, and writing on blogs.
If you and I continue that, we are tinkling brass…
and worse than sunshine patriots…
because we see, and yet do nothing effective.
Actually, illegals are exempt from following any rules, laws, etc. in this country. They are being paid to stay here in the U.S. by the liberals who need their votes. So no, illegals do not get to “volunteer”.
Could this help make colleges obsolete? Sure, students who bring something to the table can seek a rigorous education in the modern University setting, but admissions standards and degree requirements are so low that the intellectual value of a college degree in and of itself is nil. For many, it is merely a ticket to a job interview – just a way for HR people to sort out applicants. As for colleges, they are just trying to bring in more bodies to generate more revenue, and the content of the liberal arts cirriculum amounts to socialist propaganda. So we end up with a bunch of dumb people who claim to be educated, as proven by thier degree, and whenever they hear “America sucks,” their knee-jerk response is “Hell yeah!” In the years to come, I hope better paths to intellectual accomplishment will emerge in place of the current four-year mind-ruining bachelor’s degree programs. If this mandatory service crap drives people away from colleges, then that will be good.
Ragspierre,
I agree that the simple act of changing party affiliation is not sufficient. It is an important step but it is not the end of the journey.
It will have the opposite effect.
Look up the sections in Basic Economics by Dr. Thomas Sowell where he writes about rent controls.
The effect of this program will be the same as rent controls.
They are, generally and too briefly…
Because the “good” is artificially cheaper to consumers, consumers will consume more of it than they would under market forces.
The “good” will tend to sink to a lower quality level than if market forces were in play. The providers will have no market incentives to keep up the quality of the “good” they provide, because demand will be artificially higher, regardless of quality.
There will we a scarcity of the “good”, caused by the artificial low price.
Who says that everyone…even most people…should go to college? Who says that would do anything but cheapen the value of a rigorous college education?
After all, Keith Olberman is a Princeton man (from a college for the lower end of the bell curve).
Liberals got the draft repealed ’cause they didn’t like compulsive service. Now, they come up with a way to “draft” people in to “non-compulsive” (but you are reduced to a person with no rights or future if you refuse) service. Change the name and make it a non-problem. DemoCommie tactic #6.
I have two kids. neither will be allowed to join this lunacy. Ever.
Does everyone here remember that your reporting of your income to the IRS is “voluntary”…???
What do words mean in the land of THE ONE?
Well, at least they intend to pay you when they force you to volunteer.
If we can survive for four years of this czarist regime, I am predicting the worst presidential defeat in the history of this country. Just keep in mind the RINO’S who help vote in his policies and let’s get them out in 2010.
Ok someone explain – this bill requires “volunteer” work for college admissions? At what colleges – just public ones? And does the volunteer work have to be through AmeriCorp (or whatever the heck it is called).
I like how the “volunteers” are awarded monetary sums for their “volunteer” work. Umm..that is not volunteering – that is hiring.
I’m just trying to figure out this mess and what it means for me and my family – and it won’t matter because my kids are homeschooled and won’t step foot in a public school at any level now. No way the govt is getting their claws into my kids! But clarification is good so I can spread the word and tell everyon else about this sham!
Agreed, 100%. I will leave the country and take my kids with me if it comes to that. The communists aren’t getting MY KIDS!
Hah. I have no faith at all that we will have a free vote in 4 years. Or perhaps not even 2.
When Clinton left office, the reset buttons were stolen.
How many more spending cuts can we afford?
Whatever TEH ONE and his minions want them to mean, of course. If the constitution is a “living” document to them, subject to evolving change and interpretation, so is the dictionary.
Oink #2:
I stopped supporting Lugar when Indiana became the ONLY state without a major military base. There are more reasons, but that one made me the most angry.
Over my dead body …
… along with anyone who decides to try and enforce this crap.
walterc #14:
ACORN
My question is: “How long…how much more…are we going to tolerate???”
When do we do something EFFECTIVE to return this nation to its charter?
STARVE THE BEAST.
What you are seeing with this “volunteer” bill, is a glimpse into the mind of liberals, if such a thing exists. In a nutshell – nothing exists without central government, In their mind it simply is not possible for anything to be done by individuals. There is only the “collective”. To them, this bill is common sense. To freedom-lovers, it is madness.
Exactly.
It is in accord with their worldview – their “philosophy”.
This is but one item that is discussed and explained in that book I referred to above.
So….
The Federal Government is out of money, and therefore MUST borrow this money for this program.
So…. my kids will not only be forced to “volunteer”, they will also end up paying for it? and the interest on the debt incurred for this program?
One step closer to the state totally enslaving its people.
BHO has become the great uniter, only he’s uniting people against his policies. The left won’t be able to contain all the disent which is building.
Yeah, that’s applicable in a discussion about cost and money. I only was addressing the link between mandatory service and college admission. If being admitted to college (never mind the cost or who pays for it) depends on carrying out Obama-approved community service, then maybe that would dissuade people from pursuing a college degree. This would be good, because they would avoid all of the mind-rot in most schools, and instead pursue a potentially much more productive path for themselves.
Wouldn’t it act like a sorter…
our young people who would not genuflect to THE ONE will not qualify…
others, who do accept that they are the property of the government, will qualify.
Then, our academe will be even more homogeneously doctrinaire collectivist.
Can we stand for that…!?!?!
This country was founded on the principle of individualism and individual freedoms and rights. They will NOT take those away without a huge fight! They’d better believe it, because there are about 50 million people in this country ready to fight them for these fundamental rights.
What EFFECTIVE weapon do you propose using in your fight?
I hear ya, but there were a few million more than our 50 million that voted FOR collectivism.
National service bill = National shock troop act. This is the beginning of the National Police that Obama promised. It will be interesting to see the swearing in of the new members as their oath will probably not be to the Constitution or the United States but to POTUS (and TOTUS?).
Their goal? Protect and serve those in the Beltway from the evil citizens who live outside D.C. Look for many of the recruits to be those who are unemployed or disenfranchised and will adhere to a messianic allegience to Obama.
Normally, I’m not a black helicopter-conspiracy believer. This one has me a bit scared.
Keith Obermann is NOT a Princeton grad. He went to Cornell – an ag college.
I cared so little about college that I didnt even bother to attend my graduation. While my co-students (who I didnt know) were walking the stage, I was too busy throwing myself a party with my co-workers who I had been working with for over a year and a half.
I sit here writing on this blog today because a company in my town was tired of recruiting/relocating out-of-state engineers. So they offered to have one of their engineers teach a class at my high-school. The object was that once we graduated college we would come to work for them. I am the ONLY student that took them up on their offer.
I didnt take one semester off(summers included) from the beginning of my Sophmore year of HS until I graduated college. And during that time, I was working one or multiple jobs to pay for my fraternity partying and then a family.
So mandatory volunteering to get INTO college? I didnt have time to volunteer when I was that age.
My youngest daughter is eligible to start working in a few months. She has been scouting places to work for months. She told me last night that if she could make enough money she would be ready to lead her own life without my help. (OK, I have to admit that bribing her with a potential Mercedes for straight A’s IS WORKING.)
Only those who do NOT pass the background checks will be eligible for management positions.
God forbid if some honest, non-criminal types were able to infiltrate The O-Corps.
Oh and I forgot to add that I joined the military (the first time) during this period also.
Right. I knew he had some pretensions to having graduated from an Ivy League school.
He mentions it on the same frequency that Mons. Kerry mentions he served in Viet Nam.
Appreciate the correction.
Read the transcript of the press conference for this thing. Euphoria abounds, and the credit is being given to the world’s current most famous community organizer. It ain’t Jesus, and it ain’t Martin Luther King.
Does the Obama effect include retching and other various forms of nausea?
For your enjoyment Rags:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdwLuW1QcZI
My son lives in Texas now after getting out of the US Army last year (1 Iraq tour) and I told him to keep his butt right there. He’s also been after me to move there and I have to say it’s becoming more and more tempting to do so.
$6 billion is just starter-funds. Once its organization has been worked out, it will be hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into it.
During World War II, nearly 500,000 American servicemen died in order to defeat Fascism and Authoritarian Autocracy. Now, it’s being established here in America by means of the democratic vote. Hitler’s blackshirts will be at our doorsteps, albeit 70 years late…
Well,not just one weapon, but many. There are the protest rallies, to start. They need to grow, but they will help. Also, we can rally around good candidates and work for them. We also have truth, the Constitution, and our history on our side. I also believe in the power of prayer. So, I guess that is where I am coming from at this time. I don’t know if we are heading for an actual civil war in this country, it could happen, but we are not at that point yet.
Yeah, but look at the voters…they had to be bused to the polls with the promise of a pack of cigarettes to make them vote. They aren’t exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer…and I doubt they would even vote at all if they weren’t bribed.
Good luck with that. I’m all for violently refusing to be eaten.
Get that Janet?
Thanks, 31Bravo…
I did enjoy that.
Happyscrapper…
Voting and and rallying and praying are all good. We’ve been doing them since at least Reagan.
Are things getting better…?
Or worse…?
Is doing what has been done for decades enough…NOW!?!?!?
Would you try it the non-violent way first?
You are correct. However, their votes still count. And the ACORN crowd seems to be able to rouse their sorry asses every two years to get them out to vote. The problem is the “idiot” voter base appears to be growing, while the “informed”, productive voter base seems to shrinking.
One of the “structural” problems with changing anything from within the box…
A democratic America will be as oppressive as a dictatorship.
The America our Founders gave us was a Constitutional republic.
If we don’t take it back, their legacy to us has been squandered.
Absolutely….that is what I’m doing now. Writing, calling, faxing, tea partying…
but…..
one day…IMHO.. there will be blood.
Surveyor:
Would you try civil disobedience?
Before I would lay down and just give up, I would try just about anything. I have limitations, however, as I am an “elderly” retired grandmother and can only “fight” with my words, prayers, active involvement in politics, that sort of thing. Civil disobedience? You mean, stand in the road and tie up traffic until I am arrested? I would do that. But it isn’t very effective when the wacko moonbats do it, so probably wouldn’t be effective for us either. Or do you mean, refuse to pay taxes or something that could have more serious ramifications? I just don’t know. But I would give up my life for my grandchildren…and, by the same token, for my country…IF it was done effectively and not just wasted effort. I’m not the kind to set myself on fire just to make a point…that would be wasted effort.
That is thanks to the Government-Run Public School System…the complete indoctrination and dumbing down of our children. This is the result. For too many years, we have sat back and allowed the public schools to brainwash the children into liberalism. They were not taught American History, or to be proud of their county. It will take another generation of fighting this by private schools and home schooling, plus more diligence on the part of the parents before we might be able to get our citizens back on track. In the meantime, we need to do some SERIOUS battling against ACORN. Expose their fraud everywhere…get it out into the mainstream…sue them, get them investigated, whatever it takes to bring them to their knees so they can’t destroy our democratic election process. If we lose that, we lose everything. I know that is what the liberals are trying to do…we need to be sure these evil creatures see the bright light of day so they slither back under their rocks.
“The state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter. The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property.” That was A. Hitler’s formulation of “social responsibility”.
Barney Frank would approve.
The civil disobedience I suggest here is to join in a tax revolt, or strike.
Would it be worth it? I say, YES!
Sometimes, we are afraid of some amorphous “thing” that isn’t really there.
Tell me specifically what you would fear if you joined in a tax strike, and let me show you information that would let you see what you fear clearly.
What I would fear is going to prison for tax evasion in my “declining” years. Or, losing my home. And then there is my husband, who would NEVER go for it. He isn’t as radical a right-wing extremist as I am.
“AboutContactArchivesRSSColumnsPhotos Michelle Malkin Obama to sign $6 billion National Service boondoggle.” Hey now! That is not fair!!! After all he is cutting $100 Million in expenses.
What a joke.
It would not be tax evasion, and I’d put your chance of going to prison at 0%.
Again, no chance. You put your tax money in the bank. The most they could hit you with would be fines (a known quantity that can’t be more than the statutes and regs allow), and interest. Your home is never at risk.
Now, there you have me…
He could file separately, though…
Every year, we have paid the govm’t more than we needed to so that we wouldn’t be caught short at tax time. We always get a refund. But now, I am dead set against letting the government use my money for all that time!!! Are you saying that maybe we should claim a lot of deductions, then put that extra money away to earn interest for us…and then just not pay at tax time?
At the risk of repeating myself…
1388 was/is frightening enough.
If (once included-language) 1444 makes it through…watch the slide pick up speed.
– MuscleDaddy
I live in PA, a closed-primary state, so I’ll stay in the Repub party. But I will give a long look to anyone running on the Constitution Party ticket.