Comments on: Obama to sign $6 billion National Service boondoggle

By: Federal Government Spending Reduction Millions at a Time

Federal Government Spending Reduction Millions at a Time — Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:37:09 +0000

[...] in other not so glamorous perspective: Obama’s $6 billion National Service Bill paying American’s to Volunteer cost a mere 57 times more than the savings of the cabinet. But [...]

By: The Unintended Consequences of Senator Hatch’s Missionary Experience « Designated Conservative

Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:28:12 +0000

[...] 2008 Election, freedom, Mandatory Service, Socialism President Obama has signed the “Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act” into law. This bill, approved in the U.S. [...]

By: riverzen

riverzen — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:58:55 +0000

This bill is a step right out of Hugo Chavez’ playbook.
Build up government street forces ready to respond 24/7 to intimidate any political opposition, get out the fraud vote, and help in disbursing Chicago style grease.

By: 4USA

4USA — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:56:17 +0000

Brown Shirts are much more expensive now than they were in the late 30′s, early 40′s.

By: ckrcsmith

ckrcsmith — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:50:02 +0000

You folks are missing the point about the GIVE/SERVE bill entirely. While I agree it’s an expensive boondoggle, it’s much more than that. It is Hitler Youth and Nazi Brownshirts all rolled up into one. By distracting us and focusing our attention on the trumped up fiscal emergency and massive spending, Obama is sneaking this stuff past us right under our noses, and we’re too wrapped up in the tax and spending aspects to see the direct challenge to our free republic.

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:18:52 +0000

If you OWE taxes on april 15 in Commiefornia, you have to figure what your penalty is too

Golly… Kind of like the Stalinist practice of making you pay for your own bullet when they shot you…

By: torabora

torabora — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:34:00 +0000

If you OWE taxes on april 15 in Commiefornia, you have to figure what your penalty is too….yes, even if you pay in full the entire bill.

b/tards

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:08:21 +0000

I will be watching.

All I could ask of you.

I hope you’ll have something to see…

By: nlebou

nlebou — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:18:40 +0000

Oh, this has been in my thoughts for many years. I just know that actually getting enough people to do it seems impossible. But, I will be watching.

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:46:22 +0000

I don’t know about that. I will pay my taxes next year.

I understand, but you are headed in the right direction.

Please, just keep an open mind. Give this a place in your thoughts.

By: nlebou

nlebou — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:42:10 +0000

See? You’re a trend-maker…!!!

I don’t know about that. I will pay my taxes next year. All I know is when I saw them pass that piece of crap I had to do something other than write countless letters, emails, faxes and make phone calls.

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:31:56 +0000

nlebou said:

I changed my W4 as soon as they passed the porkulus bill. They can wait for my money. At least I can get 4% on it until I file next year.

See? You’re a trend-maker…!!!

STARVE THE BEAST!

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:30:26 +0000

Joy,

A few other thoughts…

While there is safety in numbers, this is not a riskless endeavor. Some of us…especially people like me, who have to answer to a State Bar for our rice bowl…could easily pay for our participation.

Part of the organization that needs to be put together would include a “Relief Team”, who’s job it would be to mitigate the effects of being picked out of the school. It would also require, as I’ve said, a Legal Team…composed of smarter, more specialized attorneys than me.

All of that is do-able. We have examples, and we have very bright, creative people who will join and develop new modes and tactics.

By: nlebou

nlebou — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:29:53 +0000

I changed my W4 as soon as they passed the porkulus bill. They can wait for my money. At least I can get 4% on it until I file next year.

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:22:47 +0000

If people change witholding and don’t pay up, that’s illegal. Which is fine by me. Enough people do it and it might accomplish our designs. I just don’t know how you’re telling Happy it’s not illegal.

It is certainly illegal. It is not criminal. Riding the bus as Rosa Parkes did was illegal, as was sitting at the soda fountain illegal for the people who did it during the civil rights movement. Civil disobedience is always an act of doing what the government declares illegal. In its pure form, it requires that you face the music, too. It INSISTS that the law deal with you to its fullest extent. That is where the moral lesson is taught to our larger society. That's why it can't be ad hoc, covert, or spun as "cheating".