$%^&*!!: Civility and tolerance in the Age of Obama
My syndicated column today looks at the outbreak of Obama-esque discourse across the country. Couldn’t even mention some of the misogynist sleaze prompted by the Tea Party movement because newspapers wouln’t print it. And they call us an “unhinged mob?”
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Civility and tolerance in the Age of Obama
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2009
They told us if Barack Obama were elected, the nation would come together. Souls would be fixed. Spirits would be healed. Public discourse would be elevated. Welcome to civility and tolerance in the Age of Obama:
* Celebrity leech/trash blogger Perez Hilton took to the Internet and TV airwaves to humiliate a beauty pageant contestant who gave what he considered an “offensive” answer about gay marriage. Hilton, inexplicably serving as a judge of the Miss USA contest, had asked Miss California Carrie Prejean whether she supported the legalization of gay marriage. Prejean respectfully answered: “I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that’s how I was raised.” President Obama, by the way, defines marriage the same way Carrie Prejean does.
No matter. Hilton immediately lambasted Prejean as a “dumb b*tch” in a viral YouTube video he taped after the pageant Sunday night. He apologized the next morning for the attack, then retracted his apology, then escalated his divisive rhetoric. On Tuesday afternoon, Hilton told an MSNBC female anchor that he was thinking of an even more vulgar epithet – the “c-word” – as he listened to Prejean’s answer. The female anchor said nothing. Basking in his new role as thought and speech enforcer, Hilton told CNN’s Larry King that beauty pageant contestants must bow to the tolerance mob: “Yes. I do expect Miss USA to be politically correct.”
And apparently, the Miss USA organizers agree. Instead of apologizing for pageant judge Perez Hilton’s vile behavior, the pageant director of the Miss California contest, Keith Lewis, sent a note to Hilton throwing Prejean under the bus: “I am personally saddened and hurt that Miss CA USA 2009 believes marriage rights belong only to a man and a woman…Religious beliefs have no place in politics in the Miss CA family.”
But gutter profanity and misogyny do?
*At the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill last week, former GOP congressman Tom Tancredo came to speak against legislative proposals to provide illegal alien students in-state tuition discounts not available to law-abiding Americans and legal immigrant students. Protesters at the institution of higher learning responded by blocking Tancredo with massive banners and screaming “No dialogue with hate.” Adults in the room stood by while students smashed a window a few feet from where Tancredo stood. Physically threatened, Tancredo was forced to leave without delivering his remarks.
According to campus reports, leftists had prepared for a week to mount a speech-squelching demonstration. The same thuggish tactics have been used at Columbia University, Georgetown University, and Michigan State University to shut down speakers who support strict immigration enforcement. The UNC administration apologized for the students’ tantrum, but took no steps to examine its own culpability for fostering a climate of intellectual vandalism and intolerance.
*The nightly airwaves turned into a soft-porn cesspool last week as liberal journalists derided and slimed hundreds of thousands of Tea Party protesters across the country who oppose reckless taxing and spending by both major political parties. Award-winning CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, mimicking his bottom-of-the-barrel competitors at MSNBC, smugly indulged in sexual puns about “teabagging.” MSNBC devoted the entire week to sophomoric sexual slang and innuendo with references to “nuts,” Dick Armey, and “full-throated” protesters.
And White House adviser David Axelrod calls the Tea Party folks “unhealthy?”
Speaking of unhealthy, angry white liberal actress Janeane Garofalo venomously played the race card: “It’s about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up and is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks.” The theme was echoed by Jeffrey Kimball, a professor emeritus of history at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, who castigated the “extreme right” for organizing against President Obama because “he’s black and he’s liberal.“ Tell that to the thousands of activists in South Carolina who practically booed and heckled white Republican Rep. Gresham Barrett off the stage at a Tea Party in Greenville last Friday night for supporting the trillion-dollar TARP and embracing the pork-laden stimulus law after voting against it. “Go home!” they shouted. The only color that mattered to protesters: the red ink of government debts.
But in the age of Obama, there’s no room for such nuance and inconvenient truths. A decent young woman is a “dumb b*tch” for holding the same view of marriage as the Obamessiah. A conservative campus speaker is bullied as a hatemonger by wild-eyed hatemongers. A grass-roots movement is debased as a bunch of racist vulgarians by a media mob of racists and vulgarians. Civility and tolerance have taken a left-hand turn down a one-way street. So much for changing course.
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B. Daniel Blatt at GayPatriot:
Why do so many refuse to acknowledge the legitimate objections some people have to state recognition of gay marriage and hesitate to challenge them on the level of ideas? Why do they resort to name-calling as a means of discourse?
Their preference for slurring gay marriage opponents parallels the way they and their peers respond to the Tea Parties. Instead of listening to their adversaries’ arguments and acknowledging the sincerity of their concerns, they treat them as a bully treats the defenseless kid on the playground.
They think they can get away with it because the MSM encourages their insults. And doesn’t hold them to account for their mean-spirited attempts to demean their adversaries.
Our society could gain by a serious discussion of gay marriage. Gay people in particular would benefit from such a conversation. Yet, the supposed advocates of this change would rather score points in some imaginary contest with conservatives than make a point about the social benefits of extending the benefits of marriage to same-sex couples.
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That anger is absolutely justified. But ThatSamIAm was saying that all gays on TV have anger issues about their sexuality, which is both stupid and false. Painting all gays with a Perez Hilton brush is like painting all pro-life supporters with an Eric Rudolph brush.
Some two bit blogger I’ve never heard of said some offensive things about Coulter and Malkin. About Coulter, you have to think she has earned any sleaze that lands on her — saying about 9/11 widows that they were happy about the deaths of their husbands.
Alas, Malkin also has sown some sexist seeds. Let her apologize for the Janet Reno jokes that she has promoted on her web site, and I’ll express remorse for what was said about her.
Thacker, you’re actually real lucky that Ed and MM still allow you to post comments. Ed banned me without notice–and called me a bigot–for a post that asked why we shouldn’t stop funding Catholic hospitals and institutions because of their abuses since he was arguing that PP shouldn’t get funding because of their current alleged abuses.
If I remember correctly, your comments on Hot Air about the Catholic Church were several times worse than mine.
lets see girls on the left… RENO, Bela PELOSI, Maxine Waters…etc..
girls on the right…Michelle, Laura, Miss CA…
I can understand why the left becomes gay…and is ANGRY!!
So, how does this call for civility in public discourse fit in with your praise just last week of Tea Party attendees who hooted, booed and airhorned invited speakers off the stage?
Pot. Kettle. Hypocrite.
Our policy on Cuba is a continuation of the policy adopted by John F. Kennedy.
Our policy on Iran has been ongoing since the Carter administration.
Democrats are bad, Omu?
30pcs, I disagree, just from the evidence I witnessed at the San Antonio Tea Party. I spoke with folks who’d voted for BO who are disappointed & fed up with the mispent millions of OUR money!
Perez Hilton has permanently altered my view on gay activists. Not gays in general, but hate filled gay activists that hide behind the skirt of civil rights to spew their vile misogynistic intolerance. They are the true violators
of civil rights.
The organizers of the Tancredo event made a terrible mistake – they should have filled the first four rows of seats with counter-demonstrators prepared with a slogan to out-shout the two people who held up the banner. And it wouldn’t have been too hard to have a scissors ready to cut the banner in half with.
Planners of public events by politically INcorrect speakers need to ORGANIZE just as much as the thugs who oppose them.
When I see Hilton, I think of the P word. Time to bring it back into the lexicon.
Lesse…
TEA Party + TARP voting exploiting REPUBLICAN political hack = boos, hoots, and (admittedly inappropriate) air horns
versus
academic forum + invited speaker with prepared remarks = trashing the venue and physically threatening the invited speaker
Doesn’t add up to me…
I can see how you’d be confused.
Just saying…
Oh, about like the Left’s praise of Obama’s promise to move away from “cowboy” diplomacy – before he signed the use of force order against three pirates barely out of their teens.
Thanks behiker…if more people like you were the face and voice of the gay community, I’d be willing to bet that a majority of Americans wouldn’t have a problem with gay marriage and probably wouldn’t have any prejudicial thoughts towards gay people.
Diversity that the left speaks so highly of is NOTHING more than a cover for Perversity
And I just got a wonderful call from a well informed gay person to tell me they were going to do ‘something’ to hurt me because they disagree with me.
GO FOR IT! Do your worst. As though I should be ashamed for my beliefs. See how the other side does this? She was taken aback when I told her the person that does my site is GAY.
I asked her specifically what her problem was with me and she said. . . basically . . . ‘DUH’.
So I hope she does call all my companies. I hope she does put me on Perez Hilton’s website. PLEASE PLEASE pretty pretty PLEASE boycott me and make me famous for my views. PLEASE! I’m BEGGING YOU!
On one hand, a beauty pageant contestant is asked a question in which she is slammed for an honest answer by being called a “dumb b&^ch” and later a “c-word”. Tabloid blogger Hilton makes it his personal goal to vilify the contestant every chance he gets and the MSM happily gives him those opportunities.
On the other hand, politicians (Republicans) that supported the stimulus spending with which the Tea Party protesters are upset are boo’d and jeered.
Yes, I can see how these two scenarios are so similar as to be almost the very same thing. /sarc
I’m put in mind also of THE ONE’s Department of Hometown Suppression…
and the warm togetherness promoted by Attorney Gen. Holder (Americans are cowards)
along with the opening to civil unrest any time the next change of administration occurs (since criminal prosecution of political decisions is now possible)
Yep. THE ONE is brining us together.
That is a mischaracterization of her point, that the widows had allowed themselves to used by the anti-war Left and seemed unabashed in politicizing their losses.
As a Christian, I refuse to be tolerant of that which is evil. Hollyweird be darned.
I’m trying to figure out why my tolerance of gays is actually diminishing… Oh yea, people like Perez Hilton.
I agree. How would he REALLY know what is appealing to MEN WHO LIKE WOMEN. Although I see Mookie’s point, wouldn’t Perez’s(Mario’s) “talents” be better utilized by judging the “Queen” of the Universe Pagent or some other odd event? Maybe they could create one so we could have another comedy event on HBO (given for what passes for wholesome entertainment at the “Pride” parades.)
And this whole “gay warriage” crap? Marriage is a religious institution that was codified into secular law. There is NO religion that “sanctifies” a marriage between two people of the same gender. Even in early pagan days, there was no such thing as “gay marriage”. Yup, try to be “out” in the Middle East and see how “high” you’ll be on that idea. (Young boys who are pimped out by their parents in Iran have been murdered – even though the kids were in reality raped – for being gay – even though they probably aren’t. I think I found the link to the story at JihadWatch.com)
I agree that Perez is an embarrassment to the gay community. It’s a shame they don’t let him know that more often because his opportunities to speak as of late are casting him as a spokesperson for them.
My comments on the Catholic Church were on areas where I disagree with the Catholic Church and pointing out their hyper sensitivity at basically anything.
I have also repeated ad nauseum how much I appreciate what the Catholic Church has done to spread the good news of Jesus Christ. As a firm believer that is very important to me. I love everyone as Jesus commanded me to. I disagree with the Catholic Church where their teachings separate from the Bible. My disagreement is often times called ‘bigotry’. But if I didn’t disagree I’d be Catholic now wouldn’t I?
The TEA movement can be characterised as parents and other Americans who care about the future of their children, their country, and who believe in personal responsibility. The other side is all about irresponsibility and seeking attention. If you put a delusional crybaby in a room and a parent, and ask them to fight over the survival of that parent’s child, who do you think will win?
What exactly do you disagree with? My post was meant to be taken as sarcasm.
Are we serious? This is still going on?
Honestly folks, the Miss USA pageant and the goings on there have about as much effect on my life as the Westminster Dog Show (which I will and did actually watch at least parts of). Similarly, if someone from the Westminster dog show made some kind of political remark I could care less.
Admittedly, at least at the dog show when someone calls a contestant a “b|tch” it is wholly accurate.
This is where so many Americans are stuck on stupid. Religious intolerance is the height of hypocrisy, because the religiously intolerant are oblivious to their own religiosity. Even professing ‘religious’ people kow tow to this absurd thinking.
Religion is the outworking one’s faith. Faith is being sure and certain of one’s beliefs. And any sane person knows beliefs are founded on personal presuppositions and biases because of their own finitude. It takes as much religious conviction to believe in not God as it does in God. But, it’s like talking to a rock trying to get this simple point across.
I am sure there were other motivating factors for those who came to the TEA rallies, but supporting responsible behavior and concern over your child’s future are the most likely prevalent factors. The image of that dumb CNN reporter attacking a father and his infant sums up this conflict and what’s at stake.
But then again Eric Rudolph was not pro life–he was strictly a racist- Old Eric had NO problem with abortions for “mud people” and felt they should be mandatory. Eric Rudolph opposed abortion for white women as it was an affront to his White Supremacist views.
I do not recall any pro-lifers cheering Eric Rudolph the way the gay community and friends cheered Perez Hilton. No pro life groups came to Rudolphs defense. But nice try with the moral equivalence argument– but that is what you do, isn’t it?
But are you sure Eric Rudolph should be your target? I thought it was Richard Jewel the “cop wanna be” right wing Christian kook? Make up your mind.
We wouldn’t have these problems today if the gobment hadn’t gotten involved in a religious institution in the first place.
Actually, you’d be surprised at how unwelcome he is at most gay events, especially after he started outing people. If it weren’t for straight women, he’d be just another loser with a blog.
Personally, I appreciate your “knowledge” of the gay lifestyle such as it is but I doubt many people care who is welcome at gay events and who isn’t. It’s not like the mainstream population gives much thought to anything gay….just sayin…
The issue here isn’t about the deviant Perez – he’s a side show. It’s the fact that someone may have lost a competition because of her beliefs which in lib land is a compete no no. Unless of course, you are a lib.
What does Richard Jewell have to do with this?
And aren’t you the one who thought it would be great fun to spike AIDS medications with poison?
Michelle did not remove your comment, TA!
That is so typical of you libs; you’re all paranoid! We’re on page 2, you dope!
Civility is a learned virtue, none of us are born with it. It starts in our formative years and is instilled in us by parents who have to consistently insist that their children refrain from the baser instincts we are born with.
If you have ever watched and listened to young children interact with each other, you see that the interaction is very basic. ‘He’s a meanie’, ‘She’s a poopie-head’, are such examples of behavior that hasn’t progressed as yet. It is only through teaching and setting examples can an adult see their children progress to the point that they can express their displeasure or anger at some perceived slight in an articulate and civil manner.
Perez Hilton, Janeanne Garofolo et al are prime examples of what happens when those lessons haven’t been taught.
I was responding to someone saying it’s a shame the gay community doesn’t tell he he’s not a good representative. And I disagree that the “mainstream population” gives much thought to anything gay. Look at what threads get the most comments here and on Hot Air.
Actually, have you read some of the stuff on the lib sites?
If you read through the pages here, you will see plenty of posts where gays are treated with respect. Example. Tolerance for their lifestyle choice is different than endorsement of it, but the left only sees what furthers their agenda.
They are tolerant of everything except a divergent opinion. Orwell called it groupthink. Example.
Similarly, at least one poster could give a rat’s a$$ what some vicious blogger has to say about some vacuous beauty queen.
Now then, what channel is CSI on?
Excellent post Michelle! This country continues to disintegrate under the constant attack from the tyrants whom wield moral relativity as a bludgeon against majority rule. As long as people fail to stand up to these fascists and an agenda driven media refuses to do its job of unbiased honest reporting, there is little hope for our survival.
1. I am not going to walk on egg shells and try not to offend the offensive .
2. there are only 2 things people get in life …. respect and disrespect . they chose by their actions on what i give them.
3. to hell with the age of obama I voted for Sarah Palin and Obama and the rest of his ilk can kiss my extremist ass.
When DHS rushes up on my house Im going to be yelling ruby ridge and standing my ground.
Perez asks a yes or no question. Answered no. Sounds ok to me.
I had to clean my screen! ROFLMBO!
Thacker’s first post was deleted and he’s not a lib.
Not that I necessarily quibble with this statement, but what do straight women have to do with Perez Hilton?
Or a dope.
Or was that redundant….?
Coiffure…?
Show-tunes…?
A love of musicals…?
Sex with… Oh, never mind…
My apologies.
My apologies also to Thacker Agency for calling them (he/she?) a lib.
They make up the vast majority of his web traffic and book sales. Almost all of the ridiculously expensive ads on his site are targeted towards women.
My experience is straight women like straight men. The women that like homosexuals may not be homosexual themselves, but they are not straight. There is usually something twisted somewhere.
just got a call from a ‘well wisher’ from these boards and I must say I appreciated it. Maybe one day I won’t be so quick to fight, but I do what I feel the good Lord calls me to do without hesitation.
I thank everyone here for the opportunity to be heard. One day maybe my fight here will be won. But there is nothing that will compare to the victory over the cross on my behalf at Calvary.
I am proud to be American and this is the greatest country ever. I fight because I care. When I stop fighting, I’ll stop caring.
And your evidence that the beauty queen in question is vacuous is based on what? Sounds like a biased, prejudiced, hateful attitude based on no evidence. Just the kind of stupid-think that liberals supposedly hate.
Nomination:
Post.of.the.month.
Respectfully disagree.
Cows can be very uncomfortable in the company of a bull.
They can be chummy with a steer.
Oh, that’s what is wrong with the lefts’ minds–they’ve been pickled! LOL
Southpaw :
I expected this retort. I use the following defintion:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vacuous
She is a student and a beauty queen. She is certainly devoid of serious occupation. Perhaps later this will change.
PS. I am not liberal.
OMeFnG!
Now there’s Coke all over my monitor. Sure am glad I wasn’t eating Cheerios or something!
Again, people unclear on a fundamental concept. Because, you dope, the Tea Party protests were a RALLY for like-minded people to voice their protest! That is not the same as a FORUM to hear opposing points of view.
Capiche?
You may think yourself the most sophisticated thinker in academia because you can project numbers into any fashion you like, but this sentiment is not very well-thought out or even correct.
Coulter made a valid point about the 9/11 widows who don’t represent ALL 9/11 families. This was a segment of victims’ families who not only deliberately aligned themselves with the anti-war movement but used 9/11 to politically bash the Bush administration. They politicized their grief while the rest of us who lost people we loved tried to mourn and grieve in private. We didn’t have press conferences and media blitzes advertising our grief.
Oh, please… this is the example you’re going to use to point to sexism. Janet Reno? Have you or someone you know ever experienced sexism? Do you even know what it is?
Please stop talking like you have a clue what women go through on a daily basis. Unless you’ve ever taken Women’s Studies courses or had a loved one experience “sexism” you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Get over yourself.
Why does anyone give this thing the time of day? One word: INSANITY.
I get that you’re going by the strict denotative meaning and not the connotative value of the word, and being a college student may not be a “serious occupation”, per se, but it seems like a good place to start to get a serious occupation.
With regards to this being only about a pageant, it has spread far outside that pageant and is being discussed all over. Celebrities and talking heads are picking sides in this and many of them are distorting or not telling the whole story on it, typically to further malign the young woman as if she speaks for all prop-8 supporters and should be the target for rage for those supporting gay marriage.
I believe that Michelle is speaking more about a culture that not only believes this is acceptable, but encourages it. Instead of disregarding Perez as a vile nobody as many of us here (liberal and conservative, gay and straight alike) have, it seems as though the MSM is turning him into a spokesman for gay marriage.
I certainly see a lot of women that I would consider vacuous under that definition. However, I see beauty pageant contestants to be highly motivated. I wouldn’t classify them as idle. For many of them, competing is a means to an end, scholarships, self-promotion, self-esteem. Exactly the type of woman I would be inclined to hire, regardless of their physical appearance.
It is the “phyiscal appearance” aspect of this Perez Hilton sham that I find shallow and reprehensible. IMO, he fits the classic definition of a Caligynephob. The fact that he is given a national forum to spew his fearful venom is representative of the modus operandi of the left.
Exhibit: Sarah Palin
Okay. Next question: WHY? (It’s rhetorical).
While I was not, nor will ever be, a beauty queen, I *was* a student. And I took that as a very serious occupation, both in grade/middle/high school and college. The former because it was expected of me from my teachers and parents, the latter because I was the blessed, fortunate recipient of a full-tuition scholarship. So it is serious work.
But I guess, for me, this is not about the platform (I don’t watch stupid pageants) or the profession(s) of the people involved per se, it’s about a woman voicing her opinion – something I believe everyone has a right to – and her being putatively punished for failing to be politically correct.
Hilton’s under no obligation to agree with what she said. But to blatantly discriminate (he admitted he gave her a 0 for the question) against her, and for the Miss California associate to throw her under the bus, is telling of what having and professing un-pc opinions means in a supposedly-free country.
Well said. In days gone by, no serious journalist, Liberal or Conservative, would have given Hilton a forum, thereby, legitimizing his rude and ignorant rant on Youtube. Likewise Garofolo. The MSM that give these intellectual lightweights a soap-box are no better than the aforementioned lightweights themselves.
Salt:
Yes, that is accurate. As I said in #127. It is about as important to me as the Westminster Dog Show. Actually less so. This young lady might turn out to be somebody some day, that is, other than something nice to look at. Currently, it is only her looks that draw attention to her opinion. Vacuous is a perfect word to describe this nonsense.
With regards to this supposedly being a major news item; that is what makes it even all the more laughable. Seems to me the media is also quite vacuous with regards to this topic.
Why don’t we go and ask the judges and contestants of the Westminster Dog Show what they think on the topic of gay marriage?
The whole thing is just so inane.
Beats the hell out of me. He’s a deplorable human being and DListed is a way better gossip blog.
Southpaw and EQ, see my above reply to Salt.
This is gonna sound weird but bear with me. Maybe Mookie can back me up here. I have a sister-in-law who has a lot of gay friends (predemoninantly men). Apparently, gay men make really good “girlfriend” or friendship material.
I’ve actually taught a couple of gay kids in various classes over the years. I didn’t much care about their sexual orientation because they weren’t discipline problems, we had a mutually respectful relationship (I can’t say that for many teenager-teacher relationships these days) and they actually did their work.
Straight women may have stronger friendships with gay men because they don’t judge, aren’t catty, and can be more supportive than “regular” girlfriends.
“Straight women may have stronger friendships with gay men because they don’t judge, aren’t catty, and can be more supportive than “regular” girlfriends.”
Now THAT’S an amazing generalization hey?
Looking at that pic of his ladyship (Perez Hilton) I can only repeat what I’d said the other day:
I wonder how his father killed himself?
And, sad but true, REAL men gave their lives on the beaches of Normandy and other distant lands so that THAT could enjoy the freedom to hurl vulgar insults to a woman in a public forum.
emjem, that’s about right, except for the catty part.
“with an Eric Rudolph brush…”
He has his own brush now?
emjem24, you had me right up until this last part, too; however, I think it came out as more general than you intended.
Perhaps you meant that they share more similar interests?
Ha! I appreciated that one too.
wighttrasch wins the prize!
Now JS I didn’t mean to generalize per se. This is based not only on current American pop culture but also my personal experience.
Perhaps, I should have said gay people make good friends and left out the catty part.
Am I okay now, Mookie?
This is infuriating. Why did the Perez twit ask the question if he was not willing to accept the answer.
He says “religious beliefs” have not place in beauty ocntests…huh?? but non-religious beliefs do???
There wasn’t a whole lot of room for nuance in the age of Bush, either. It’s the same country, same culture. The only difference is your guy isn’t running the show anymore.
Gotta love sour grapes. Who knew they would taste this sweet?
No, I meant you were wrong about them being LESS catty.
Lonewolf brings up an interesting point. All the invective has been directed at Perez but what about the pageant directors? They approved his question.
Exactly! Just as all straight people are different so are all gay folks. I’ve met many reasonable gay people who I wouldn’t classify as the Perez Hilton prototype or strongly in favor of gay marriage.
Now, by similar intersts, do you mean shopping?
Okay, I’ll stop now.
Mixed metaphor? You’re eating sour grapes that taste sweet?
If you’re going to pop in for the drive-by schadenfreude and endorsement of bad behavior, you could take the time to get “nyah nyah” song in tune.
That’s precisely the point. Where’s the change? Even you point out that it’s the same country, the same culture.
Gotta love the projection by somebody who feels some kind of satisfaction through a political party economically running the country into the ground.
Nah, you can’t be some sheeple that identifies themselves by trendy cultural mores or the current sleezy politician lying to them. That’s not it at all.
Keep drinking that grape koolaid… it’ll rot your teeth.
I believe that Michelle had underscored that in a previous post. (?) The Miss California director’s response was a joke as well.
Right now, it’s Perez’s mug in front of the cameras, though, and he was the source. Their endorsement of the question, especially if it were coordinated with the state represented (not sure if that happened), is a joke. Either they were cowards to stop him, agreed with the question, or didn’t pay much attention.
We have a better idea of what Perez’s intentions were than theirs.
Once again, lgm manages to introduce completely irrelevant issues into a topic.
Just curious, we know he(?)is not “gay”. He has never posted a gay or happy thought on here.
But,is he homosexual by any synonym?
I wanted to add WRT what EQ said (I am not picking on you EQ, but you made me think of this):
Yes, I agree, everyone has a right to voice their opinion. The problem is that the only reason her opinion is even regarded as important is her beauty. It is vacuous in every way.
What exactly did she expect when she went on a vacuous competition that is traditionally ludicrously “PC?”
I’ll go back to the stereotypical beauty pageant answer:
That’s lovely sweetie, now let’s see how you look in a bikini…
Where are the beauty contestants that say things like:
They don’t exist as far as I can tell, beacuse the competition is vacuous, hopelessly PC, and just plain stupid. If a young lady wants to demean herself (I realize this is a strong word, but I cannot seem to come up with a better one) by entering this competition, well, what does she expect?
Lonewolf said:
Who cares? I’m sure the young lady in question will do awfully well in “Miss Christian USA” (if such a thing exists). It’s a private function that supposedly uses beauty to judge females worthy of some prize. Apparently they also use some other arbitrary and completely vacuous criteria. Color me surprised!
The Dog Show analogy is a perfect example of why I feel so strongly about this incident. I doubt Perez Hilton would have the moxy to pull such as stunt on such a large social group as dog lovers. (I also think the Westminster Dog Show people would have the intelligence to not have a dog hater on their judges panel.) Perez Hilton choosing a perceivedly weak target such as a beauty show contestant to belittle fits the classic example of a bully. It’s not about the merits of the pageant, it’s about the chicken-**** actions of a punk.
I stand up to bullies.
Why keep subjecting us to this picture of this derelict?
I wonder if DHS is now monitoring Miss California Carrie Prejean?
Clearly, she fits their profile as someone who is against same sex marriage.
She also mentioned being against the government bailouts so she is probably against big federal government as well.
I hope our DHS surveilance department is watching out for her next possible actions!
I thought you might have been quoting a movie or something here, but I could find a reference.
You’re not jealous that you don’t have the opportunity to say this at a pageant, are you? (Only a joke, ZA… only a joke.
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Southpaw:
I wouldn’t put it past him if it came to the topic of gay marriage. He is clearly an attention whore.
Well, that analogy only holds if you are right about him being a “caligynephobe.” I am not convinced he is. I just think he is a bit of an a$$.
In any case, the Westminster Dog Show hasn’t ever been traditionally and hopelessly PC. As far as I can tell, they leave politics out entirely. After all, I don’t think you could reasonably expect any of the contestants in a dog show to be able to articulate an opinion on politics.
Salt:
I doubt you’ll find the exact wording; I just made it up right now.
Being as how I am male, not really. I would like to be a judge though:
Please describe, in your own words, your first sexual encounter.
Yowser!
Somehow I suspect what we might imagine the answers could be, we would be disappointed by the real answers given. Best to keep some things to the imagination.
BTW- Thanks for the word of the day: caligynephobe.
Salt:
Southpaw gets credit for the “word of the day.” See #162.
Heh, it’s only a matter of time before the PC crowd gets around to requiring it. In which case, I know of a certain Collie that posts on this site that would win hands down (unless Perez Hilton were on the panel).
My apologies to Southpaw for missing the credit.
Word to Keith Lewis, pageant Director, F-you. First off, no one should be forced to lie to a sissy like Hilton or you; secondly an individual’s religion deserves more respect than your pageant; thirdly resign before you are fired dumb azz. Your comments do not go over well with your audience whom you apparently think are stupid. And F-you again.
I think they were wrong, too, as was the director (or whatever) of the Miss California program, who also threw Prejean under the bus and said religion had no place in politics in Miss USA. As if politics had a place to begin with.
Which is why I’m still curious as to WHY Prejean got THIS question.
As much as I abhor beauty pageants, I guess I’m having a hard time seeing why her beauty has anything to do with this.
I said above that I’d never even be remotely considered for any such contest, yet when I say basically the exact same thing as Prejean did, the reaction is very similar.
Now, did she have an extra platform that spurred this publicity? Yeah. But that’s about all that makes her different from someone like me.
Sorry but everyone who is in the Hollywood business knows who and what this Perez dude is. What does that say about the Miss USA pageant that it knowingly put someone like Perez in place as a judge and paid him?
Isn’t this publicity the payoff?
I mean really folks, all this activity over a stunt like this is like you are all lemmings.
Move on!
I’ve been having fun with this site the last few days:
Phobia List
They get all the credit.
Well then, I guess I’m confused why course language and rude behavior is being attributed to the “age of Obama.”
I’m also wondering who “told us if Barack Obama were elected, the nation would come together?” Seems like if you’re going to base an entire article around what “They” say, you should identify who “They” are.
This article is a collection of non-sequiturs built around a straw man. Nobody said the country would miraculously change the moment Obama took office. Perez Hilton was a pig and Janeane Garafolo was an idiot long before “the age of Obama,” but you wouldn’t know that from reading this article. Forgive me if I interpret this as bitterness, but I don’t see how else I’m supposed to read it.
And you say this without a shred of irony. I can’t decide if that’s hilarious or tragic.