$%^&*!!: Civility and tolerance in the Age of Obama

My syndicated column today looks at the outbreak of Obama-esque discourse across the country. Couldn’t even mention some of the misogynist sleaze prompted by the Tea Party movement because newspapers wouln’t print it. And they call us an “unhinged mob?”
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Civility and tolerance in the Age of Obama
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2009
They told us if Barack Obama were elected, the nation would come together. Souls would be fixed. Spirits would be healed. Public discourse would be elevated. Welcome to civility and tolerance in the Age of Obama:
* Celebrity leech/trash blogger Perez Hilton took to the Internet and TV airwaves to humiliate a beauty pageant contestant who gave what he considered an “offensive” answer about gay marriage. Hilton, inexplicably serving as a judge of the Miss USA contest, had asked Miss California Carrie Prejean whether she supported the legalization of gay marriage. Prejean respectfully answered: “I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that’s how I was raised.” President Obama, by the way, defines marriage the same way Carrie Prejean does.
No matter. Hilton immediately lambasted Prejean as a “dumb b*tch” in a viral YouTube video he taped after the pageant Sunday night. He apologized the next morning for the attack, then retracted his apology, then escalated his divisive rhetoric. On Tuesday afternoon, Hilton told an MSNBC female anchor that he was thinking of an even more vulgar epithet – the “c-word” – as he listened to Prejean’s answer. The female anchor said nothing. Basking in his new role as thought and speech enforcer, Hilton told CNN’s Larry King that beauty pageant contestants must bow to the tolerance mob: “Yes. I do expect Miss USA to be politically correct.”
And apparently, the Miss USA organizers agree. Instead of apologizing for pageant judge Perez Hilton’s vile behavior, the pageant director of the Miss California contest, Keith Lewis, sent a note to Hilton throwing Prejean under the bus: “I am personally saddened and hurt that Miss CA USA 2009 believes marriage rights belong only to a man and a woman…Religious beliefs have no place in politics in the Miss CA family.”
But gutter profanity and misogyny do?
*At the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill last week, former GOP congressman Tom Tancredo came to speak against legislative proposals to provide illegal alien students in-state tuition discounts not available to law-abiding Americans and legal immigrant students. Protesters at the institution of higher learning responded by blocking Tancredo with massive banners and screaming “No dialogue with hate.” Adults in the room stood by while students smashed a window a few feet from where Tancredo stood. Physically threatened, Tancredo was forced to leave without delivering his remarks.
According to campus reports, leftists had prepared for a week to mount a speech-squelching demonstration. The same thuggish tactics have been used at Columbia University, Georgetown University, and Michigan State University to shut down speakers who support strict immigration enforcement. The UNC administration apologized for the students’ tantrum, but took no steps to examine its own culpability for fostering a climate of intellectual vandalism and intolerance.
*The nightly airwaves turned into a soft-porn cesspool last week as liberal journalists derided and slimed hundreds of thousands of Tea Party protesters across the country who oppose reckless taxing and spending by both major political parties. Award-winning CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, mimicking his bottom-of-the-barrel competitors at MSNBC, smugly indulged in sexual puns about “teabagging.” MSNBC devoted the entire week to sophomoric sexual slang and innuendo with references to “nuts,” Dick Armey, and “full-throated” protesters.
And White House adviser David Axelrod calls the Tea Party folks “unhealthy?”
Speaking of unhealthy, angry white liberal actress Janeane Garofalo venomously played the race card: “It’s about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up and is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks.” The theme was echoed by Jeffrey Kimball, a professor emeritus of history at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, who castigated the “extreme right” for organizing against President Obama because “he’s black and he’s liberal.“ Tell that to the thousands of activists in South Carolina who practically booed and heckled white Republican Rep. Gresham Barrett off the stage at a Tea Party in Greenville last Friday night for supporting the trillion-dollar TARP and embracing the pork-laden stimulus law after voting against it. “Go home!” they shouted. The only color that mattered to protesters: the red ink of government debts.
But in the age of Obama, there’s no room for such nuance and inconvenient truths. A decent young woman is a “dumb b*tch” for holding the same view of marriage as the Obamessiah. A conservative campus speaker is bullied as a hatemonger by wild-eyed hatemongers. A grass-roots movement is debased as a bunch of racist vulgarians by a media mob of racists and vulgarians. Civility and tolerance have taken a left-hand turn down a one-way street. So much for changing course.
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B. Daniel Blatt at GayPatriot:
Why do so many refuse to acknowledge the legitimate objections some people have to state recognition of gay marriage and hesitate to challenge them on the level of ideas? Why do they resort to name-calling as a means of discourse?
Their preference for slurring gay marriage opponents parallels the way they and their peers respond to the Tea Parties. Instead of listening to their adversaries’ arguments and acknowledging the sincerity of their concerns, they treat them as a bully treats the defenseless kid on the playground.
They think they can get away with it because the MSM encourages their insults. And doesn’t hold them to account for their mean-spirited attempts to demean their adversaries.
Our society could gain by a serious discussion of gay marriage. Gay people in particular would benefit from such a conversation. Yet, the supposed advocates of this change would rather score points in some imaginary contest with conservatives than make a point about the social benefits of extending the benefits of marriage to same-sex couples.
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I believe that Michelle had underscored that in a previous post. (?) The Miss California director’s response was a joke as well.
Right now, it’s Perez’s mug in front of the cameras, though, and he was the source. Their endorsement of the question, especially if it were coordinated with the state represented (not sure if that happened), is a joke. Either they were cowards to stop him, agreed with the question, or didn’t pay much attention.
We have a better idea of what Perez’s intentions were than theirs.
Once again, lgm manages to introduce completely irrelevant issues into a topic.
Just curious, we know he(?)is not “gay”. He has never posted a gay or happy thought on here.
But,is he homosexual by any synonym?
I wanted to add WRT what EQ said (I am not picking on you EQ, but you made me think of this):
Yes, I agree, everyone has a right to voice their opinion. The problem is that the only reason her opinion is even regarded as important is her beauty. It is vacuous in every way.
What exactly did she expect when she went on a vacuous competition that is traditionally ludicrously “PC?”
I’ll go back to the stereotypical beauty pageant answer:
That’s lovely sweetie, now let’s see how you look in a bikini…
Where are the beauty contestants that say things like:
They don’t exist as far as I can tell, beacuse the competition is vacuous, hopelessly PC, and just plain stupid. If a young lady wants to demean herself (I realize this is a strong word, but I cannot seem to come up with a better one) by entering this competition, well, what does she expect?
Lonewolf said:
Who cares? I’m sure the young lady in question will do awfully well in “Miss Christian USA” (if such a thing exists). It’s a private function that supposedly uses beauty to judge females worthy of some prize. Apparently they also use some other arbitrary and completely vacuous criteria. Color me surprised!
The Dog Show analogy is a perfect example of why I feel so strongly about this incident. I doubt Perez Hilton would have the moxy to pull such as stunt on such a large social group as dog lovers. (I also think the Westminster Dog Show people would have the intelligence to not have a dog hater on their judges panel.) Perez Hilton choosing a perceivedly weak target such as a beauty show contestant to belittle fits the classic example of a bully. It’s not about the merits of the pageant, it’s about the chicken-**** actions of a punk.
I stand up to bullies.
Why keep subjecting us to this picture of this derelict?
I wonder if DHS is now monitoring Miss California Carrie Prejean?
Clearly, she fits their profile as someone who is against same sex marriage.
She also mentioned being against the government bailouts so she is probably against big federal government as well.
I hope our DHS surveilance department is watching out for her next possible actions!
I thought you might have been quoting a movie or something here, but I could find a reference.
You’re not jealous that you don’t have the opportunity to say this at a pageant, are you? (Only a joke, ZA… only a joke.
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Southpaw:
I wouldn’t put it past him if it came to the topic of gay marriage. He is clearly an attention whore.
Well, that analogy only holds if you are right about him being a “caligynephobe.” I am not convinced he is. I just think he is a bit of an a$$.
In any case, the Westminster Dog Show hasn’t ever been traditionally and hopelessly PC. As far as I can tell, they leave politics out entirely. After all, I don’t think you could reasonably expect any of the contestants in a dog show to be able to articulate an opinion on politics.
Salt:
I doubt you’ll find the exact wording; I just made it up right now.
Being as how I am male, not really. I would like to be a judge though:
Please describe, in your own words, your first sexual encounter.
Yowser!
Somehow I suspect what we might imagine the answers could be, we would be disappointed by the real answers given. Best to keep some things to the imagination.
BTW- Thanks for the word of the day: caligynephobe.
Salt:
Southpaw gets credit for the “word of the day.” See #162.
Heh, it’s only a matter of time before the PC crowd gets around to requiring it. In which case, I know of a certain Collie that posts on this site that would win hands down (unless Perez Hilton were on the panel).
My apologies to Southpaw for missing the credit.
Word to Keith Lewis, pageant Director, F-you. First off, no one should be forced to lie to a sissy like Hilton or you; secondly an individual’s religion deserves more respect than your pageant; thirdly resign before you are fired dumb azz. Your comments do not go over well with your audience whom you apparently think are stupid. And F-you again.
I think they were wrong, too, as was the director (or whatever) of the Miss California program, who also threw Prejean under the bus and said religion had no place in politics in Miss USA. As if politics had a place to begin with.
Which is why I’m still curious as to WHY Prejean got THIS question.
As much as I abhor beauty pageants, I guess I’m having a hard time seeing why her beauty has anything to do with this.
I said above that I’d never even be remotely considered for any such contest, yet when I say basically the exact same thing as Prejean did, the reaction is very similar.
Now, did she have an extra platform that spurred this publicity? Yeah. But that’s about all that makes her different from someone like me.
Sorry but everyone who is in the Hollywood business knows who and what this Perez dude is. What does that say about the Miss USA pageant that it knowingly put someone like Perez in place as a judge and paid him?
Isn’t this publicity the payoff?
I mean really folks, all this activity over a stunt like this is like you are all lemmings.
Move on!
I’ve been having fun with this site the last few days:
Phobia List
They get all the credit.
Well then, I guess I’m confused why course language and rude behavior is being attributed to the “age of Obama.”
I’m also wondering who “told us if Barack Obama were elected, the nation would come together?” Seems like if you’re going to base an entire article around what “They” say, you should identify who “They” are.
This article is a collection of non-sequiturs built around a straw man. Nobody said the country would miraculously change the moment Obama took office. Perez Hilton was a pig and Janeane Garafolo was an idiot long before “the age of Obama,” but you wouldn’t know that from reading this article. Forgive me if I interpret this as bitterness, but I don’t see how else I’m supposed to read it.
And you say this without a shred of irony. I can’t decide if that’s hilarious or tragic.
EQ:
Yes! That is what makes it so different and so incredibly stupid. Her opinion is no more worthy of attention than is Janeane Garofalo, Hilton’s, yours, or mine.
The very fact that they had Hilton as a judge is testimony to just how stupid this thing is.
I don’t think I need to spell out my own personal opinion on this matter. It is however, largely irrelevant. The fact that some a$$hole called some vacuous beauty queen a “b|tch” is NOT news.
The only reason it is news is because a good half of America wishes they could have sex with the beauty queen. That, and the a$$hole in question is such a shameless (and successful) self-promoter.
OMG, how infuriatingly stupid this all is!
jsmiddleton4 said in #198:
…things that made perfect sense. Exactly! Thank you.
then go away and don’t read it..duhhh.
this is a perfect illustration of the intolerance and fascism of the gay movmement.
this illustrates perfectly what intolerant, hateful scum they are.
Because it works. American culture doesn’t care about “being right”. It only cares about “openness” and “equality”. Relativism is the wrong term. The proper term for our culture would be counter-Christian. How do I know? Because that is what the Marxists, through the Frankfurt School and men like Gramsci, Lukacs, Trotsky, Odorno, Sorge…, intended and have been doing in order to subvert our culture.
Unfortunately, this appears to be the topic of the day on one of my favorite blogs. I can’t help but join in!
That photo of Hilton with the Hello Kitty shower cap doesn’t do his
mean-ness justice.
Unless you consider the Metropolitan Church. I have always thought that there is a special place in hell for that particular group of blasphemers.
Because she picked his number out of a fishbowl?
The behavior cataloged above doesn’t ’score points’ at least in any positive sense of those words. All it does is demean the gay community and the left wing media and the likes of Garafolo. While people might teehee and pretend to agree, my guess is most are really disgusted and afraid to say so lest they be treated to the above terrorism.
obviously because he knew she was a christian..it was a setup…
Wow. The tinfoil is strong with this one.
The questions from all the judges were submitted before the pageant started. Each judge was assigned a number. The numbers were put in a fishbowl. She picked his. Please explain how that’s a setup.
This is a fair point. I really wonder if (everything else being equal) we would have the same absurd spectacle if the young woman in question were Muslim.
I really wonder which would have won out, a liberal desire for “political correctness” or Hilton’s predilection for attention whoring.
…and Mookie just corrected me.
Color me embarrased.
THE ONE was going to unite us…
lead us to a post-racial era…
cut taxes…
lower the seas…
heal the breach…
fix the leak…
blah, blah, blah, and etc.
He said it.
People said he was full of it.
Now they’re just calling him…and leftists generally…on BS.
No wait, there is still a fair point:
Would Hilton have been so nasty about this whole thing if the young lady were a Muslim?
I doubt he would have called her a b|tch.
Depends on the level of his death-wish…
Ragspierre:
Well, to be fair, I would think any Muslim that would kill over such a slight would probably also kill the young woman in question for being in the contest in the first place.
Also, do we know for certain that Perez stuck to the “script” as it were? ZA’s point makes me wonder this as well. Were there any Muslim contestants, though? My guess is that only the most moderate muslims would be okay with a beauty pageant.
I’m not endorsing a conspiracy theory, but it’s possible he had this as a backup question just in case he hit a good target.
I guess I need to look up and see if there’s anything that says that the pageant directors confirmed that this was the question reviewed. The show is live, right?
Especially if she appeared in a revealing burka.
They’d also kill her for a cartoon she drew…
or being a Christian…
or having an education…
or being around a man not in her blood-line, or to whom she’s married…
Course, Ol’ Perez wouldn’t last that long…
oh of course, it was all ‘coincidence’ sure…
Salt:
Yes. You could do that. You could also look up whether or not a wicket-keeper in cricket is the only fielder allowed to wear special gloves. The latter might be slightly less a waste of your time. *smile*
Let us know how it turns out.
Then why don’t you explain to us how it wasn’t and how he pulled it off?
don’t think it would be too hard, when the producers of the show are all for gay marriage…
bet you think Obama cares for you too..
don’t you think they knew what she was all about? hmmmm?? and didn’t want her to win???
naw that would never happen..
I couldn’t care less what Obama thinks.
So if the producers of the show are all for gay marriage, how did they ensure she would get that question?
I suppose you missed the sarcasm of it. I read it as mocking those that claimed that having Obama as president would create a more “tolerant”, more beautiful America.
You really don’t believe that there are many Obama zealots (some of them in the MSM) that believe and say these types of things? You might be rational about such things, but you have to admit that there is quite a crowd out there that acts as though President Obama wears a halo.
The whole “age of Obama” thing is dripping in sarcasm and it looks as though you’re reading it a bit literally. No one here, least of all Michelle, expected bad behavior to go away with an Obama presidency. We are mocking the throngs of drool bucket fans that defined a “new era of post racism” and other nonsense because of his election.
Looking at some of less rational liberal commenters here shows this type of thinking. I agree that it is hyperbole, but conservatives didn’t write this particular hyperbole (yes, I believe both sides are capable of it). We’re just poking fun at it.
probably the same way democrats count votes….
All I’ll say is that…Michelle and the other gals in the 2009 Claire Booth Luce calendar looked WAY better in their fur coats. Comments, collie?
My collie says:
I suppose I was secretly hoping someone else might do it.
I’m categorizing it much like you were, but since it was all idle speculation on my part, I wished to underscore that I didn’t know the truth of it.
Never did take the time to understand cricket, either.
it did not matter who Carrie Prejean selected. If any other judge asked the same question, then the answer and the slander would have been the same. Also, her attendance at a Christian college would have been known before hand because it is part of her bio for the Miss USA Pageant. As far as a particular question going to a particular contestant, nobody knows if this could have been rigged — and that is part of the reason for a law suit. If it was rigged, and this was discovered, then Prejean was the victim of civil fraud. We certainly know she was slandered and actually continues to be slandered. We also know that the reaction of Hilton and the gay community as well as the Pageant officials smacks of sexual discrimination.
One final note, Miss USA has also been damaged here. She is unable to enjoy the crown she “won”. How about the rest of the Miss USA contestants? They have now been specifically told to have a politically correct answer for everything regardless of what you believe. If Miss USA had any guts, she would give the crown back to the pageant officials and indicate that she will not win because of abuse. She and every contestant should join Prejean in a lawsuit for 10s of millions of dollars.
It seems as though everyone in the MSM is in agreement that Carrie’s response was “politically incorrect.” From my perspective, it was correct no matter how you slice it, politically or otherwise. and I think plenty of Americans concur…
In other words, you have no idea. That’s what I thought.
Just another point. Any contestant of the Miss USA contest can sue. It doesn’t have to be Prejean. In theory, every individual in the pageant was damaged or compromised by the result.
Well, I guess Christina Silva, last years pageant winner probably feels the same about Keith Lewis as Carrie Prejean. From a Fox News story:
And why is this clown director of this pageant?
On April 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm, Mookie said:
Hive Mind loves the thoughts of Mookie.
Seriously, I’m dying to hear how the pageants directors rigged THE ENTIRE CONTEST to make sure a Christian beauty queen didn’t win.
On April 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm, Mookie said:
Ask Hive Mind. It knows all.
Oh for goodness sake FilmLadd!
Isn’t promoting the sale of your movie a completely shameless violation of the TOU?
On April 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm, zeroangel said:
Sorry, I couldn’t resist the Hive
It’s making me do terrible things…
I wasn’t there..but apparently you believe in unicorns and fairies…
how hard would it be?? not very
give me a break…
and how can you guarandamntee me that this process was fair, and it was just a ‘fluke’ that she got this question..hmmmm?
you cannot…this was a show, run by a bunch of gay-marriage-loving libs…
please give me a break..I would say you can’t be that naive, but then you’re a lib…
Seriously, I’m dying to hear how the pageants directors rigged THE ENTIRE CONTEST to make sure a Christian beauty queen didn’t win.
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You will never know the answer to your question without the benefit of a lawsuit. Maybe there was rigging and maybe there wasn’t, but that is why discovery and depositions occur as part of the civil law procesws — and eventually why trials for civil damages go forward.
I would hope that all of the Miss USA contestants join such a lawsuit. The treatment of Carrie Prejean has damaged every contestant’s reputation, particularly Miss USA herself. And, by the way, any contestant can file that lawsuit not just Prejean or Miss USA.
its like asking how hard is it to rig the selection process on a show or movie to make sure the conservative doesn’t get the job….
according to MOOKIE..that NEVER EVER happens…
these libs are laughable
Fair enough. I agree that a lot of the rhetoric during the election went a little over the top, but when the outgoing president is as unpopular as Bush was, and so many in the country thought the country was on the wrong track (much moreso than now, despite what most here probably think), people wanted to feel optimistic for a change, and Obama was the ideal vehicle for that.
But just as I am reading this column too literally, so too are you taking the campaign rhetoric too literally. Even the most hyperbolic amongst us didn’t actually believe people would suddenly stop being jerks to eachother. Rather, it’s the simple fact that a black president with an odd name has a paradigm-altering quality about it. That doesn’t necessarily mean change overnight, but politics aside, it does reaffirm the greatness of our country. Maybe you all didn’t need to be reminded of that, but a lot of us did (again, see this graph).
Americans, on the whole, feel better about their country now than they did just months ago, and the changing of the guard had a lot to do with that. Our culture war, however, will continue unabetted. I don’t think anyone ever believed otherwise.
Yes, that’s all our legal system needs. Another frivoulous lawsuit clogging up our already clogged courtrooms.
“I didn’t get the Miss USA crown and the countless monies and fame associated with it because I wasn’t deemed PC enough! Now I have to settle with the fame and attention I’m recieving over not getting the crown!”
Ugh! Anyone ever listen to Imus? Recall that sound clip he had of someone screaming (in a very shrill voice): “SHUT UP!!!”
If it’s not very hard, tell us how they did it.
I can see that zeroangel doesn’t get it. Civil law exists as part of the Bill of Rights (VII) in the Constitution. Prejean has been (1) slandered, (2)victimized because of her answer, and this may very well constitute sexual discrimination and harassment, and (3) she may very well be a victim of fraud. These aren’t frivolous issues and to allow them to go unchallenged is chilling to American discourse regardless of your position on gay marriage.
gave the judge the question to give to her..
probably handed it to him…wow thats tough now isn’t it??
where is your CERTIFICATION that the process of selecting questions was fair and free?? hmmm?? from like a CPA firm??
Next time, just for you, I’ll put my magical, irony decoder ring on when I read some of the hypocrisy and self-righteous judgements/indictments you heap on the rest of us when we don’t fall in line with the same cultural trends you seem to identify with.
Perhaps, next time, I’ll put an irony tag on since I know Bush set the stage for the economic crisis spending we’re seeing now.
Feel better now? Then again, you actually think that with the advent of Obummer, we’re suddenly a better, more united country when really he’s a politician playing this country (and folks like you) for fools. I don’t know whether that’s hilarious or tragic.
publiuswarmac9999:
I’m sorry, but I think an actual lawyer already tried to explain to you how you are wrong. I’ve heard of lawsuits where people spilled coffee on themselves that were less frivolous.
In any case, I am generally of the opinion that politics doesn’t belong in a beauty pageant. Actually, I generally think they should just be completely open about just how vacuous the contest is and have it on cable at 10pm and all nude.
Precisely. Both Hilton and Miss California can (and probably will) capitalize on this publicity. Hilton gets the attention he so desperately craves, and Prejean gets to be a martyr for the biblically correct. If she plays her cards right, she will make much more of this than she ever would have from winning the crown.
So the entire fishbowl was filled with only Hilton’s number?
When I see a “real” lawyer, not someone on the internet who poses as a lawyer, then I may change my opinion about a lawsuit. I do note here, however, that a legal analyst on FoxNews has said that Prejean may very well have a sexual discrimination lawsuit.
And the very fact that Hilton and Prejean may come up as winners, damages Miss USA because she is unable to enjoy the fruits of her win (pun intended).
publiuswarmac9999:
…he later commented that he would be happy to
cash in onrepresent Prejean in thisentirely frivolousimportant issue. He then accepted his check from Fox and left.Just saw a picture of Carrie Prejean. Now I know why Perez Hilton is so apoplectic…his boyfriend must have gone straight.
so they couldn’t have slipped him the right question before he picked this hmm??
do you think magicians do real magic?
seriously how stupid are you?
Carrie Prejean will likely get over this and have a good life. Hilton, on the other hand, is likely to end up a pathetic and lonely old queen.
No, there are relatively few “old” queens. Perez will most likely end up dead at a relatively young age from the harmful consequences of homosexual behavior. I hope he can give up the homosexual behavior before it kills him. Then he will have a chance to deal with the anger issues…
WATCH THE TAPE…
She picked the card, questioner was announced, and she was asked “are you worried?”
Background voice, Hiltons? “you should be”….
May not have been a set up… but definatly was a “got ya” question, and by HIS response, he already must have known whata her answer was going to be.
still waiting mookie, on how you KNOW and can GUARANTEE the process was entirely free and fair. or is that just an ASSumption on your part???
Slipped who the right question?
the unicorn.
I don’t believe that Perez cared who is victim was specifically. He was either going to get the attaboy cheers for a PC answer or a new scapegoat for the gay marriage crowd to hate.
It is a strange coincidence that the contestant happened to be Miss California, but I believe that’s all it was, a coincidence.
Being a coincidence doesn’t vindicate Perez or the producers. Let’s not go round and round looking for a deeper conspiracy. The whole thing is a disgrace enough already and I doubt anyone could prove a fix against Miss California even if there was one.
Zeroangel: Have you ever been a paid consultant on for a TV network? Many are on retainer and, therefore, on call to discuss just such an issue as this. This doesn’t make their opinion less valid anymore than it make your opinion more valid. They are the expert in the law — and neither you nor I are such experts.
All I want to see is the truth come out of the pageant closet. If there is nothing there, then so be it. On the other hand, if there is something there then let a good jury decide just how much and how much damage has occurred.
I rest my case.
oh too bad I was waiting to here how you CERTIFIED and guaranteed how this was free and fair!!
I can always use a good laugh.
moron.
See, I don’t have to. I’m not the one saying it was rigged and it’s all a big conspiracy.
Is it possible for you to argue without insults?
why not? you’re the one who says it was fair, I say it was rigged. I can’t prove it, you can’t prove it wasn’t.
you’re just being a typical liberal..in other words an a**
with libs insults are so richly deserved…
I think we all know that liberals are, as a group, an immature, vulgar, hateful and hypocritical bunch. But only in today’s topsy turvy world when up is down and down is up, can a classless freak like Hilton judge a beauty contest, and then come up with his own litmus test for who can win.
I have lived long enough to remember the days when homosexuals were happy just to be accepted, and not get beat up on the street for being gay. Any right thinking person abhorred such bigotry. I have always thought “live and let live”. But now homosexuals are not happy to live and let live…now they want to shove their abnormal life style down our throats, and insist that we come around to their point of view or else. Carrie Prejean believes what the vast majority of people in this Country believe.
Personally, Hilton’s tirade makes me angry enough to want to slap that silly stupid look off his face, for his amazing rudeness and crassness. That guy needs a good kick in the ass to give him a reality check. But that is what we have come to in this country in 2009, when “under the rock” dwellers like Hilton are embraced by the PC set, and the rest of us are left wondering where our Country has gone.
I truly feel bad for your keyboard. It must be terrible, being the recipient of your frustration over erectile dysfunction.
oh and the judge and the organizers attitude towards this girl make me VERY suspicious that this was a rigged question…
its rather obvious. so the evidence available to us indicates it was rigged.
sounds like wishful thinking on your part ‘honey’
think again, I like em under 300lbs..
Hook, line and sinker.
As this last nation state, the US, turns into a secular humanist hell hole within the the New Order of the ages, I wonder at what point does G-d send a Noah to preach to the world our destruction is soon.
I’m thinking water well, bunker, a lot of wine, ammo, and MRS’s.
This has nothing to do with the racial background of the current president. It’s that he’s dead wrong on the course he’s charted. If he were 100% white (not merely the 50% that he conveniently discards), I’d say the same thing.
Or I’d just call him by his real name: John Kerry.
My sentiment. Personally, Perez Hilton has set my tolerance of gays back three decades.
Perez Hilton set the tone of this conversation. Why does he get to live by a different set of rules?
Who said he does? I haven’t seen a single person in any of these threads defend him.
Well said, Michelle!
I am flabbergasted by the dangerous liberal responses to things they don’t agree with. As a very opinionated person, I am now afraid (almost) to speak my mind lest I be smeared by some famous person on the internet, have people bussed to my home, be called nasty names on television or even hunted down by Homeland Security.
What is America coming to?!!
I haven’t seen anyone in the gay community condemn him. Helloooo Elen? Rosie? Getting tired of playing by two sets of rules.