The resurgence of left-wing extremism
Well, DHS isn’t going to be issuing alerts about it any time soon. But it’s here: the resurgence of left-wing extremism.
Data point – MoveOn.org wailing about torture and indulging in Cheney Derangement Syndrome:
Data point – Hillary cackles at serious questions about the effectiveness of enhanced interrogation.
Data point – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ups pressure for ‘truth’ panel on torture
Data point – Soros acolyte Rosa Brooks, al Qaeda apologist and military-basher, now ensconced at the Pentagon.
Data point – Radical Yale Law School Dean Harold Koh’s Senate confirmation hearing for a key State Department legal adviser slot set for next Tuesday.
Data point – Department of Haplessness and Stupidity Secretary Janet Napolitano — fresh from pooh-poohing terrorism and illegal border-crossings, botching 9/11 history and issuing hit jobs on limited government conservatives and veterans — is now pushing for repeal of Real ID Act:
A post-9/11 law that sets federal standards for state driver’s licenses and identification cards is under fire from the head of the agency enforcing that law, the Department of Homeland Security.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano this week said she is working with governors to repeal the Real ID Act, which was passed in 2005 and went into effect last year.
The bill is popular in Washington, but is scorned by many governors who bear the responsibility and cost of validating that holders of driver’s licenses are citizens or legal residents of the United States.
Napolitano, former governor of Arizona, said she has met with governors of both parties recently “to look at a way to repeal Real ID.” She said she wants to substitute the federal law with “something else that pivots off of the driver’s license but accomplishes some of the same goals. And we hope to be able to announce something on that fairly soon.” Napolitano made her remarks Tuesday in response to a question at a conference of the Anti-Defamation League.
On Wednesday, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, a sponsor of the law, said he was “angered” by Napolitano’s comments. “Real ID is a necessary program for keeping America safe. It is the will of Congress and also a recommendation of the 9/11 Commission,” Sensenbrenner said.
“When the Democrats took over the majority in the 110th Congress, they said they wanted to implement all of the 9/11 Commission recommendations. I am highly disappointed that they are going back on their word by repealing this important recommendation, and substituting it with a weaker, less safe program that provides terrorists with too many avenues to attack.”
We have lost our war footing. Welcome back to the Sesame Street school of national security. Feel safer? Me neither.
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Indeed.
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RSS; YOU WONDER WHY NO ONE ON THIS BLOG TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY, WHEN YOU SAY1. YOU ARE A MAINSTREAM DEMOCRAT, WHICH IN TODAYS DEMOCRAT PARTY, THAT MEANS YOU ARE A SOCIALIST, BUT NOT A COMMITTED COMMUNIST YET. 2. YOU SAY TIMOTHY MCVEIGH WAS A RIGHT WING WHACK JOB WHO WAS A TERRORIST. AGREED. HE AS REACTING TO A LEFT WING WHACK JOB WHO ATTACKED A RELIGIOUS COMPOUND WITH TANKS AND HELICOPTERS PROVIDED BY THE MILITARY AND IT RESULTED IN THE DEAH OF A LARGE NUMBER OF CITIZENS. MVEIGH’S BOMB ALSO RESULTED IN A LARGE NUMBER OF DEAD CITIZENS. MCVEIGH IS WHERE? SHEIK KHALID AND THE 3 PEOPLE YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN WATERBOARDED ARE WHERE? WHY AREN’T THEY IN HELL WITH MCVEIGH? THEY KILLED 3000 CITIZENS. 3) WHAT BLOG DID YOU READ THAT AMERICAN GOVERNMENT PEOPLE ATTACHED ELECTICAL WIRES TO ANYONE’S GENITALS? IF WE TURNED SOME TERRORISTS OVER TO THEIR HOMELAND GOVERNMENT AND THOSE GOVERNMENTS DON’T CONSIDER TALKING MEAN TO TERRORISTS AS TORTURE, WHAT HAS THAT TO DO WITH US. WE CONSIDERED AND JAILED MAKING A GUY PARADE NAKED AS TORTURE. WE CONSIDER WATERBOARDING AS TORTURE. WE CONSIDER RAISING OUR VOICES OR MAKING THEM STAND, OR NOT SHUTTING OFF THE LIGHTS AS TORTURE. YET YOU SAY ELECTRICITY TO GENITALS IS TORTURE, AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, NOW LET’S GET BACK TO WHAT MAINSTREAM DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING IS TORTURE. IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER FOR YOU TOANSWER WHAT ISN’T TORTURE? NOT GIVING PEOPLE A KORAN, NOT ALLOWING THEM TO PROCEED IN OUR COURTS, AND NOT GIVING THEM T.V.S IS TORTURE, SO WHAT ISN’T?
So why not join conservatives (who outnumber the remaining noseholding Republicans by far) and vote for a third party candidate next time? Only when the GOP candidate shows up in third place in the polls is there any possibility that they will change. My bet is, like the newspapers, rather than change they will choose to go out of business instead.
BTW, I’m not fixating on you today. You are just touching on a very important part of the GOP problem: the habit of the hard-core 20% Republicans to vote for Republicans no matter what.
otay!
I totally agree. We simply cannot split our votes that way. It will be the end of us.
Correct. Just as there are people that vote for Democrats no matter what, there are people that vote Republican no matter what. I would like to garner their votes as well as the informed pro constitution vote.
We need a “Tea Party” in D.C. to show our support for the intelligence services trying to save our asses from misunderstood angry choirboys in spite their ivory tower kumbaya top bosses.
Funny. Since when have reporter been eager to try out and college jocks getting their macho kicks off a kind of “torture”, except one that leaves you a damp face and ready to plop in front a TV with a Coors after ten minutes? My God, what IS it that libbies see so sacred in the black souls of animals who’d happily slit your daughters throat or blow up her school bus or irradiate her to crisp then dance on her ashes? And I’m supposed to entrust my family’s lives to Them???
James Greenidge
Queens, NY
Lefties like this Skeptic are dead wrong on McVeigh also. McVeigh was NOT a right winger…never was…this is a myth created by the Clinton justice dept to hide their own incompetence concerning the investigation into the Murrah bombing….the neo-Dems in this country are doing everything in their power to destroy all vestiges of freedom of expression. They are beneath contempt….
http://www.jaynadavis.com/index.html
On April 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am,
And very very soon, I hope!
It is important to note that Sensenbrenner is one of the few representatives who, when speaking on “the will of Congress”, is speaking on the will of the people
I am starting to think that too! Most nights, I start watching him and turn it off. I thought it would get better after Colmes left, but it hasn’t.
Correct.
Dont know if anyone has posted this but check it out.
An inconvenient video….
2002 Video Flashback- Eric Holder: Terrorist Detainees Don’t Fall Under Geneva Conventions
http://tinyurl.com/5btafl
Beautifully written and I can certainly relate! I lost my dear Mother on Mother’s Day two years ago. Dad died over 25 years ago. I am now officially racing downstream in a boat with no oars. I wish I could leave a message of condolence for Ann, but I understand why she doesn’t allow comments!!
Yes, I am so painfully aware of that, as I have a neighbor like that who has pretty much destroyed most of our gatherings. Good news, though…the recent concensus by the rest of us is that she will NOT be invited to any more of our gatherings. Some of my other neighbors are “democrats”, but not raving moonbats and are willing to listen to reason. Most of them really dislike Obama now and have voter’s remorse.
And He Whose Middle Name is Hussein friend in Argentina is now “reforming” the media to make it more democratic -that would be Democratic here-
The Reich’s Ministry of Truth is here to help? ACORN Nonprofit Group Relief Act? He Whose Middle Name is Hussein types are busy little devils, aren’t they? But then the First Amendment is just one of those Bills of Negative Rights-in all Fairness.
Um…you forgot to turn your caps lock off!
Pasadena…I agree with you in theory. But I don’t think we have the luxury of a certain defeat next election. We have to get rid of these corrupt liberal democrats NOW before they can continue to destroy our country. Yes, we will still have some RINOs in Congress. But we can get rid of a lot of them by campaigning for others. I just think we would be making things worse if we split our votes and give the liberals a huge mandate (I didn’t mean Bawney’s kind of mandate). You know what these creeps do when they get what they consider a mandate. They feel that POWER and they use it for TREASON.
The end goal of the liberals is to round up conservatives, specifically Christians, and have them executed.
All these moves towards socialism and such by the Obamanation and his group are merely the steps along the path to that goal.
They’d better not try to round up this Christian! I have sharp teeth and a very heavy iron skillet. I mean it.
Off topic…I just got a letter from Social Security that my next check will have an extra one-time-only stimulus in the amount of $250.00. Thank you, oh mighty and benevolent Master O! That might help pay for the mamouth energy cost increases when I run my A/C this summer. At least a month of it. I am so blessed to have a Messiah as my Dear Leader.
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They had better be better trained and better armed than I am, as well as have bigger stones.
I doubt that.
Look, folks…
these guys see an opening. They feel this is their day, and with LOTS of very good reasons.
Most of the posters here are still playing by the rules…
that they trampled DECADES ago.
Please, get a C L U E.
These are not normal times. OBAMA IS NOT HARMLESS. The people around, and behind, him are not HARMLESS.
You see the problem? You are either a conservative or a member of the United Establishment Party. You have to pick one. The path of opportunity will open up before you.
So long as you allow your fears to compromise your conservative convictions by automatically voting Republican, there is no reason to expect anything to change.
We need to vote out INCUMBENTS. Let the churn burn. That is why the House is where we get more traction. Yet Boehner can’t seem to find his way to the Democrats’ Blue Dogs. The House Republicans have lousy leadership and are merely running up there “conservative” ratings by gratuitously voting against anything the Dems propose. You are helping them get away with it.
So which is it? Are you a conservative or a Republican? You can’t be both anymore.
Gratuitously voting the way all of us approve?!?!?
Yeah…
that’s a sure-fire solution.
God help us.
Any day now, Obama is going to sign an executive order declaring punishment for crimes is a violation of the defendant’s civil rights.
BTW, Kudos to you for overcoming the shift key phobia. But you don’t have to make up for lost time. It’s okay to let go once in a while.
Dude you need a pick me up.
Read Psalm 23 Infantry style. Read as normal until you get to this verse and then say, “Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death. I will fear no evil; for I am the most dangerous SOB in the Valley.”
Obama and his minons are not harmless, but they are not Terminators either. In the arena of ideas we have the upper hand.
Agreed.
But good ideas have to be vindicated.
They have to be defended, and applied.
Action.
STARVE THE BEAST.
PasadenaPhil Said;
Right there with you Phil — I am a Conservative not a Republican. I wish, I know this will never come true, everyone in every state does a recall of evry single Representative that does not support conservative values and represents us!! Any representative that does win our vote will be held accountable. Big wish list.
I see the grand goal of the new left- wing extremism now. It came to me, like an epiphany. It is Pol Pot and the Khymer Rouge all over again. Just like in Cambodia, 35 years ago, President Obama and the extreme left want to start civilization anew starting at “year zero (2009)”. All right-wing radicals will be forced to adhere to the dear leader’s agenda, forced to renounce their guilty love of country, love of constitution, and love of liberty. All right-wing radicals, after this purification process, will then be absorbed into the world- government “collective” as “matrix-like” fodder, losing all personal identity and existing only for the good of the world-government for as long as they remain a viable asset.
Which is the key to success in fighting them.
You…while there is time…have to say, “no”.
I am not yours…what I make is not yours.
I will not be eaten.
IF we don’t say that, we will be…in large bite or small.
What SOME of the public favors is a way to make health care more affordable…while not reducing the type and quality of care that is available today.
What Obama is going to do has little to do with either of those two goals. His goal to socialize the health care system so evey troll that couldn’t be bothered to pay for health care, but can, will be covered at the expense of everyone else. And that care will be diluted and controlled aka rationed… by people that have no business being involved in individuals health care decisions.
So don’t try to spin it and distort it.
happyscrapper and others:
The “working within the party” is exactly why people like me voted third party and 6-7 million conservatives stayed home. We are the people who joined the Republicans in 1980 to put Republicans in power in the first place. Now that the GOP has declared war on us, we are gone. What possible reason do you think you could possibly devise that would change our minds?
So I repeat, if you are dismayed by the status quo, you cannot be both a conservative and a Republican. It’s time to burn down the village to save it.
This is why we need to replace the upper levels of the RNC with true conservatives. That’s the only way they’ll get any money from us.
Sure he wasn’t. And how many anti-government, anti-tax, anti-gun control white supremacist Democrats do you know?
Rag: I don’t know if you have noticed that we are in virtual perfect agreement on almost every issue. Yet for some reason, you keep attacking me.
The only area we differ substantially is in what to do about the problem. You believe that the only cure for what ails us is for everyone (but not you) to not pay their taxes and to belittle all other alternatives while dismissing victories in your own idiomatic language and logic. As we are gaining momentum and turning into a juggernaut, you have nothing to offer but “what a waste of time”. Do you want to win or not?
I’m coming to the conclusion that as a public defender who represents people with major tax problems, your quixotic strategy of tilting at windmills amounts to nothing more than a ruse for you to drum up business, kind of an ambulance chaser for tax cheats.
“Sure he wasn’t. And how many anti-government, anti-tax, anti-gun control white supremacist Democrats do you know?”
Doesn’t that accurately sum up the Democratic Party of the Southern states for many years?
Red you assume only 2 choices. Either McViegh was a Republican or a Democrat. That is an untrue proposition.
An anarchist is neither.
Usually what comes next for those folks who try to lump the likes of home grown terrorist with the “right” is to tell us “Hitler was a conservative you know….”
Dimocrates? They are converting to something else.
So, more every day. Read the polls.
That is simply a lie.
Again.
You made that same assertion twice now.
I invite anyone to read my posts. You will see that PP seems compelled to lie about what I advocate.
Kenya Slim’s mentor William Ayres certainly thinks they should do so. But Kenya Slim gets a bye. What our Left Wing Weenies seem to forget is tyrants ALWAYS turn on their own. Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Franco and Castro went through one purge after another. Kenya Slim has Hillary Cackles recorded to break any unrepentant capitalist. Then the show trials can begin and shown on the Ministry of Truth channel.
Terror for the sake of terror-Obama learned well from Frank Marshall Davis did he not?
That is also a lie.
I am a solo practitioner in private practice.
Bankruptcy is a small fraction of my practice, but it has exposed me to KNOWLEDGE of the tax system.
I merely hole your foolish arguments, and it seems that your response is simply to lie about who I am and what I have said.
Wow, she has a point! Every mammal species produces CO2 and every mammal species has cancer….
Then if DDT causes cancer, we should immediately ban mammals too?
I just never realized than trees and plants cure cancer by absorbing CO2, and are helping us out by producing the substance O2 (which is a fabulously helpful oxidizing agent).
Surely no one would object to us implementing Jim Crow style laws to keep Carbon and Oxygen segregated. Because atoms shouldnt mix in public. Then again, maybe we should just ban 0xygen (because it causes fires) which produces C02.
None, and McVeigh was not a Dem….he was a anarchist with Muslim ties. The case is still open…a Federal Judge has not allowed it to close..there are far too many questions unanswered. Such as why..a farmer on welfare (Nichols) was able to make a dozen trips to Manila in the year preceeding the bombing. Why Ramzi Yousef was seen by any number of people with Nicols. Why nearly every witness to the Rider truck blowing up saw McVeigh and another man get out of the truck and run. Why dozens of people all around Ok City and Norman Ok saw McVeigh with numbers of expatrioted Iraqis in the months preceeding the bombing. Why in all McVeigh’s writing prior to his sentence praised Islam and Saddam in particular.
Try reading and doing a little research before you click your mouse…..
He didn’t promote it’s release because NONE of this should have EVER been made public in the first place. It was more important to retain these techniques to protect us than it was to tout the details and risk allowing terrorists to be aware of the tactics and have a better shot at being mentally prepared to deal with it. Since Obama made the colossal mistake of releasing this classified information just so he could keep trying to demonize the Bush administration, Cheney realizes no further harm can be done by citing examples of the life saving information that was gleaned from these murderous pieces of human trash. Cheney believes it’s more important now to not let Obama disingenuously attempt to sway public opinion about these tactics, thereby eliminating them from the tools we have to protect Americans.
And as can be seen now, these tactics WORKED. Exposing a lie of Obama’s that they did not.
Did you not say that you cannot join in with your strategy of withholding taxes because your are an “officer of the court”? How am I lying? Do you not realize how many people, myself included, you would lose their licenses to do business were they to follow your suggestion? Do you not see how utterly foolish your strategy is as a practical matter?
Why don’t you just drop it? This is a fight you started, you lost and yet you keep picking at that scab.
I’m done with you.
Classic leftist tactic. When the facts don’t fit your position, try to change the subject.
And did we miss the supposed gun-running operations that the Branch Davidians were involved with that McVeigh was supposedly unhappy with?
Although McVeigh was P.O.’d that the government took back his DITY move reimbursment check (they took mine back too the b@$tards. lol ). But you dont blow up the Federal building in OKC because of that – you go blow up DFAS in Indianapolis or Cleveland instead.
Because what I said was that, as an officer of the Court, I would be one of the first to be targeted…and by more than one gun.
I also said I would not ask someone to do what I was not prepared to do FIRST.
Read, son.
That is a possibility, not at all a certainty.
So, just what are you willing to lay on the alter of liberty?
Can you claim any common-cause with those who signed their names…BOLDLY…to
“We pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.”
Unless you are willing to do something besides vote, protest, and grip on a blog, you are dishonest, given what you say.
Fabulous comment by an e-mailer on O’Reilly last night:
End of F-ing discussion!
I assume nothing. Being an anti-government, anti-tax, anti-gun control white supremacist is practically the definition of right wing.
That doesn’t make him a Republican or a “movement conservative,” but it does make him conservative. And that’s exactly what the DHS is smartly on the look out for. They don’t believe that Jonah Goldberg is about to open fire at the Post Office, but they are rightly concerned that anti-government wackos, maybe ones with military experience, might go postal.
You can’t be a Muslim conservative? Well, I guess now you can’t after conservatives have spent the last 8 years smearing their religion, but it was the 90s. (Anarchist = small government.)
So there are no people on the left who are anti-government, anti-tax, anti-gun control? I believe your side has Byrd a high ranking KKK member so we know white supremacist is part of the left.
You assume way too much.
As for me, I am right wing as they come. I am not a “white supremacist”; I am against a big, fat, overspending, over taxing, over control government. I believe in gun control. I believe when the government takes guns from the criminals, we can turn in our guns without incident. Until such time, I believe gun control is hitting your target critical mass. I am the average working American who believes government exists for the citizens and taxation is a burden. I believe the founding fathers gave us a republic and our government has taken that away.
Too bad you like the carp we have called “government”. Hate freedom much?
You assume too much.
How many Republican Candidates had a Coffee with Tim McVeigh and how many Democratic Candidates with William Ayres?
McVeigh was executed by lethal injection on June 11, 2001-President Bush did NOT pardon him.
Susan Rosenberg, A Member Of The Weather Underground WAS pardoned by Bill Clinton.
Red State Skeptic, Leftist and Bill Clinton can be selective. Sadly the Justice Department has lied so many times we do not know if the supposed gun-running operations of the Branch Davidians was true. We do know that at least two FBI agents, several BATF&E agents and Justice Department officials committed perjury but were not prosecuted at either Ruby Ride or Waco. FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi shoots a women with a baby and we are told it was a mere mistake.
Tim McVeigh, Janet Reno and Lon Horiuchi seem more alike than opposite-they kill who they will without conscience. Oh well to quote RSS hero “the death of one is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic”.
I don’t know how you could be a liberal if you are anti-government, anti-tax, and anti-gun control.
As for racism, of course Robert Byrd has recanted his past beliefs and associations.
I don’t know where you’re from, but around my way, if you hate blacks and Mexicans, you’re a Republican. Period. 100%. Not saying that all or even most Republicans here are racist, but all racists are Republicans. The 50s were another story. Then the parties sort of flipped, and then so did the David Dukes.
Never said there are no left wing dangerous extremists. If you’re making a point that the President himself is a terrorist, then please keep amusing me.
You, sir are an idiot. There are NO black Democrats who hate whites?
You are not only an idiot, you are a stupid idiot. Check out your Presidents “former” pastor who he had to distance himself from and get back to us. On second thought, don’t get back to us.
I have enjoyed many of your counterpoints even if I don’t agree with you, but this little hyperbole is beyond the pale.
Are you really standing behind this?
This whole business is all about revenge. We are heading down a road that dictates, when one party takes control, the other party becomes subject to prosecution. Remember, democrats…the other party will eventually take control. If you set the precedent, the “pandora’s box” is open. The day could come when we no longer have free, and peaceful transfer of power, if the winner seeks revenge on the loser. Cheney was nothing more than the V.P.. No power and only there to be President if the actual President dies. Prosecute him for what? Being V.P.?
How thick is this irony? President Obama tells the country its time to move on, and MoveOn.org attacks him for taking that stance. Obviously, “move on” is a slogan they reserve for democrats only.
My 5 year old (who is obviously more advanced intellectually than RSS) would call you a “Doo Doo Head”.
My experience has been that Republicans and Conservatives in general are FAR less racist than Liberals.
In fact, Conservatives are usually the last people who care what you look like or where you come from.
Liberals, on the other hand, immediately try to place people in groups based on ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual preference etc..
You are just sad.
You mean since George Wallace?
No. I obviously meant white supremacists like Tim McVeigh.
While I’m at it, RSS – the Parties’ roles reversed with the first election of FDR. Dems at the time called him a “traitor to his class”. But, he set the standard for the liberal Democrat. His sentiments echo today in that he called Stalin “Uncle Joe” until the day he died. He hated Churchill and only saw the Brits as an inconvenient way to protect the Soviets from the Nazis.
Wow, except for the White Supremecist part, you just defined everyone that signed the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Good for you.
Now, you obviously dislike white people. In the USA, at least for the short term under this Administration, Bigots like you can say what they want in a public forum. You should be proud that Right Wingers as you describe founded a country where you have such freedoms.
Yet another uninformed statement by “the masses.” Do you have data by a non-partisan group that supports that?
Wanting to help people doesn’t mean you hate them.
I can’t believe I even have to make this point, because it is so obvious, but white people who hate blacks and Mexicans are Republicans. It’s sad that y’all can’t just accept this fact and move on.
It’s not just left-wing extremism that’s on display, it’s also left-wing arrogance and stupidity. Both may make for great campaign stump speeches and photo-op apprearances to placate Obummer’s adoring sychophants, but they also can lead to the overwhelming appeasement, narcissism, and self-defeatism that we’re seeing now.
I’m sorry Libs but ignorance isn’t bliss.
I am so tired of these politician turds covering each others ass. We need more tea parties. We need to strongly voice enough is enough of their crap. They don’t give a hoot about this country! It’s all about them and their power!!
You’re propagating a Leftist stereotype of conservatives and the GOP. It’s untrue and offensive. In the example you gave, could not the same be intimated about rural/white Democrats?
Really? I mean, you aren’t joking, are you? So, by switching to the Democrat party a person’s past racial sins are clensed? Wow.
What kind of a fool are you. I mean, honestly?
A. Lumping people in to groups and limiting them does not help them in any way. Ever.
B. The vast majority of Conservatives don’t care about these things, they just want to be left alone by people like you and the government (regardless of who is running it).
P.S. I am White and from the South – we didn’t vote Republican until Clinton screwed us over on the gun thing back in the early ’90’s. All of those evil Southern White guys you Dems like to demonize who ran Jim Crow laws and Poll Taxes and every other scheme to ensure segregation stayed on – they were Democrats to a man.
RSS, I think it’s sadder not only that you believe this, but you state it as a fact.
Are there white racists that vote Republican? Sure. Are all white racists Republicans? Certainly not.
You’re arguing an absolute that any single white racist would disprove. There’s no way that you can honestly believe that all people that vote Democrat are that pure.
You have a strong opinion here, but not a fact regardless of how “obvious” you believe it to be.
Are you really this cluless and naive? How do you explain tuition breaks and social services for illegals? Are libs/rinos just “helping people” or trying to build an eternal voter base? How is welfare “helping people” if it leads to generational dependence and neglect? How is economic confiscation in the form of taxes that give people’s money to those who don’t work “helping people?” More like helping people to other people’s money. More soup for you!!
I can’t believe you, and millions of other deluded libs/Dems like you, think that legalizing 11-20 million illegals (and I could care less if they’re Mexican) is somehow going to help our country’s social and economic support systems in the long run. It’s pretty sad that you think “racial profiling” is really done by “those people” when it’s not just “those people” that you think are doing it.
Oh, and btw, why don’t you step into Section 8 housing and see who exactly is responsible for the suburban blight going on in communities all across the country. In my community, I’m seeing a lot of black families who do not maintain their properties, their lawns, mistreat their pit bulls, and litter the neighborhoods with unattended, not well-maintained cars on the street.
And, it’s not “those people” doing it. Plenty of these folks had Obummer signs on their front lawns because he’s gonna take care of them for the rest of their lives like some black people think they should get in return for their citizenship.
If you think that only Republicans think that illegals should wait in line for citizenship like everybody else and blacks should start taking responsibility for their personal lifestyle choices instead of blaming white people is “hateful” then you haven’t got a clue and will never get one.
Precisely: If there were minorities wronged by such past actions, a simple party flip makes everything right?
If you knew your history, you would know that the south voted Republican in national elections for the first time since Reconstruction in 1964, when LBJ supported the Civil Rights Act and Goldwater opposed it. That’s when they switched and took all the David Duke sympathizers with them.
OMG, you’re a “centrist” Dem? Says who? You? Do you even know what a centrist is? A centrist moderates their positions and comes to a compromise about policy. Is any of this occurring right now in Princess Peloozi’s three-ringed circus called a Congress?
Oh, I get it, your comment was meant as a joke. You thinking you’re a “centrist” is like Obummer claiming he’s a “moderate capitalist.”
The last line in particular is pretty ridiculous. Politics is just a game to folks like you on the left. It’s all about how you can scapegoat Conservatives and those who oppose you. Show trials are fun for you but not so fun for the country. Dude, you’re about as much a player in this game as the rest of us. You are superfluous to the process. This isn’t a game to the rest of us and if you think it is you’re a child who really needs to grow up.
Those are arguments for your policies on race. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinions do not make you racist. That’s not my point at all. You don’t have to be racist/nativist to be against illegal immigration, the welfare state or affirmative action.
You are, however, going to favor the party that opposes illegal immigration, the welfare state and affirmative action if you are a racist/nativist.
Have you never heard that expression? No wonder you’re a Republican.
You are an intolerant sleazing bigot…all lefties are bigots. The monsters like you are who are keeping the minorities in their “place”..right in the projects. Where you can keep track of them and use them to advance your agenda. You are pig, sir and are completely beneath contempt…you have insulted me and my family personally…I have all colors in my family. This poster should be ignored and sent to the racist facist leftie site called Moveon.org…he would fit much better with his intolerant bigot pigs…..Gawd…what a useless pig….
RSS – Wrong on your history. LBJ didn’t run for reelection after he signed the Civil Rights Act. That was one of the reasons he knew he wouldn’t be reelected (lost support of his fellow Dems in the South).
Trust me, I was there. Saxby Chambliss was the first Republican Senator from the State of Georgia since Reconstruction (a program run by Republicans). The Current Governor of Georgia is the first Republican to hold that office since Reconstruction. Carter ran for Governor as a Conservative Democrat and unveiled his true colors only after he was elected so no second term followed. I knew George Busbee and Sam Nunn – both very Conservative politicians – both Dems. All this because it took Clinton and the ultra-left wing of the Democrat party to turn us away.
My Grandfather was a Democrat who hated Kennedy and FDR. But he still voted Dem because there was no effective Republican Party in the South until 1992.
Your history is as poor as your nearsighted opinion of Republicans. You really don’t want to argue history on this forum anyway, I am a severe lightweight compared to some of the other posters here.
You have embarrassed yourself enough with the “all Republicans are racist” comment.
Let it go..
I read somewhere the other day that Republicans carried 4-5 southern states in virtually every election of the 20th Century. I’m sure you can confirm or rebut that with a little research.
Also,
As TxVet2 reminded you, George Wallace was a Dem. He stood in front of the Schoolhouse door to keep a black student from entering. Lester Maddox, Democrat, had a restaurant in Atlanta that was closed down due to his refusal to serve Blacks. He stood in front of his storefront with an axe handle. Then, made a good bit of money selling axe handles. I haven’t seen an axe handle in the rear window of a pick up truck since the early ’90’s – but it was all the rage at one time – by Democrats. BTW – he was elected Governor of the Great State of Georgia – with the support of the Democrat party. This was, of course, after the Civil Rights Act was law.
No, the Civil Rights Act was signed into law on July 2, 1964. And, as I wrote, the entire south shifted from Democrat to Republican in the Presidential election from 1960 to 1964.
Statewide parties in the South have not always followed national politics. But tell me, what did Roy Barnes do to lose the Governorship for the Dems for the first time since Reconstruction?
I did not say that. All Republicans are not white supremacists, but all white supremacists are Republicans (or at least favor Republicans over Democrats).
I bet YOU can’t confirm it.
Slip and slide pal.. Slip and slide.
The UN puke blue color is on the DHS seal, and Air Force One.
Over.
Red State Skeptic said:
Going back to David Duke for an example of a racist Republican is like DHS going back to Timothy McVeigh for an example of a right-wing extremist. Duke was a Democrat and a racist before he switched to Republican. Can you give us more recent examples of Republican racists? That should be easy since “all racists are Republicans.”
The only racist comments I’ve heard, lately, have been directed against black Republicans by Democrats. The Left hates conservate blacks with a passion. They are called traitors, oreos, and Uncle Toms.
Here are some recent examples of racist Democrats:
Then add staunch Democratic supporter Gary Trudeau making racist comments about Condoleezza Rice (”Brown Sugar”).
These are just a few examples of the racism Democrats get away with constantly.
I stand corrected. Nixon won Tennessee, Kentucky and Virginia (and Florida) in 1960. But look at the maps and compare 1960 (and before) and 1964. Keep in mind that Goldwater only won 38% of the vote, and the only state outside the south that he won was his home state of Arizona. Yet he turned Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.
It’s pretty easy to see how the South went red.
Sigh… what do you say to such ignorance? And people really think the sophisticates of the world truly reside in the Dem party? When you look at statements like the one above, you really prove my point. You’re a bigot. You’re as bad as the progressive-secularists who want to ban religion from all aspects of American life. You’re as bad as heterophobes like gay activists who demonized Prop 8 proponents.
You, sir/it/maam, whatever you are, don’t get it. You really don’t care at all about this country if you can reorder it in a fashion that suits YOU and leaves the rest of us who actually believed in the Constitution and the founding of this country at the mercy of cowardly, arrogant tryants like you.
Then again, I think you’re the same person who swears that Rap music is the best EVAH. Even though it’s repetitive, unoriginal, and steals from better artists. I’ve heard of the expression you referenced and, frankly, if you need any kind of expression to represent you instead of your own ideas, then you really didn’t have much to say, did you?
When I speak to folks like you, I think of folks like Chaps who are actually sane. I have Dems in my family who aren’t nearly as short-sighted and bigoted as you. I don’t agree with their world view in a lot of ways, but I at least see their point of view. Yours…. is not as centrist as theirs. Get a clue. Seriously, you really do reflect a limited world view that only works on Jerry Springer… not in the real world.
Then again… perhaps, you’d be a suitable replacement for Larry King.
I sadly agree, Norm. RSS is the worst kind of closted bigot. He either a)doesn’t get out much, b)runs around with a selectively acquired crowd that is as uninformed as he/she/it is c) is a collector- someone who bases their fulfillment in life on the diversity (or lack thereof) of friends in their social circle.
The collectors I particularly despise- I grew up in a college town where many libs, including professors, thought themselves so effete and “evolved” because they collected a rainbow array of a frienship circle. They calculated their self-importance by how many of the right sort they kept in their circle or the ratio of minority to white to gay to straight friends.
RSS is the worst sort of collector.
Why do you think Duke switched? He went where he could get the votes.
Duke won 44% of the vote in the 1990 Senate primaries, including 60% of whites.
Sonny Perdue won the Georgia governorship for the first time since Reconstruction in 2002 because he pledged to allow Georgian to vote on the State Flag in a referendum after Roy Barnes successfully had the Stars and Bars removed.
The only states where Barack Obama got a smaller share of the vote than John Kerry (you’d think it would be none) were in southern states with small black populations: Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia. McCain won more than 80% of the white vote in Alabama and Mississippi.
As I clarified, I misspoke when I wrote that all racists are Republicans. Obviously, both sides have their share of ignorant, hateful voters. But you do have a monopoly on the white supremacist vote. Deal with it.
So let’s analyze it – In 1960, Nixon ran against one of the most liberal Dems in history (especially his stance at the time) so it makes sense that some Southern States might follow. In 1968, Nixon promised to get us out of the war that Kennedy and LBJ got us in to. Also, if Wallace hadn’t been shot, the was on track to beating them both.
The main reason, however, was that Jim Crow laws were slowly dismantled and African Americans were suddenly allowed to vote. They outnumber White people in most Southern States.
Clinton was the death knell of the Democrat party in the South. I will concede that Johnson drove a lot of nails in that coffin but the ‘92 election was the endgame.
All I’m saying is you need to get off of your high horse about Republicans being racist. Like I said, you are falling victim to nearsighted Democrat propaganda. Still, I want the rights afforded to me by the Constitution. All of them. Dems wish to take those rights away. That’s a simple fact. I will never vote Democrat in any circumstance for the rest of my life because of it. I will never trust them and, unless they change their platform completely, I will never agree with them.
BTW – in 1920, Tennessee voted Republican. I checked too..
This is about the South going Republican in national elections between 1960 and 1964. Sorry, there is only one explanation.
You really are ignorant. Why don’t you know something before you open your mouth, or at least check it.
No matter how many times you repeat it, it is still a scurrilous lie. The party that is keeping minorities down is the same party it has always been – the Democrats. You used to use whips, now you use welfare. Same difference.