Pelosi on $3.4 trillion budget: “A statement of our national values”

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 29, 2009 01:54 PM

Our new “national values:” Reckless spending, massive government expansion, and the continued saddling of future generations with untold debt.

Plundering is patriotic!

The House of Representatives passed a $3.44 trillion budget resolution for fiscal year 2010 Wednesday, approving most of President Obama’s key spending priorities and setting the federal government in a new direction with major increases for energy, education and health care programs.
The House on Wednesday approved a budget resolution measure by a vote of 233 to 193.

The House on Wednesday approved a budget resolution measure by a vote of 233 to 193.

The resolution, which was approved by a vote of 233 to 193, passed in a virtual party-line vote. All but 17 House Democrats supported it, and no House Republicans voted in favor…

… “Today, for the first time in many, many years, we have a president’s budget … that is a statement of our national values,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said during the final debate on the House floor.

“What is important to us as a nation is reflected in this budget. It’s a very happy day for our country.”

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  1. #1
    On April 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, b-cat said:

    There is no budget anymore, not after the last 100 days. It’s just a dog and pony show now.

    Show me where all this stimulus money was in last year’s budget.

  2. #2
    On April 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, flmom said:

    I feel like putting my head under the covers. Wake me up in 2012.

  3. #3
    On April 29th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, RogersUmp said:

    Happy day???

  4. #4
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, RogersUmp said:

    And if the economy gets worse we spend more??? When does it end and reason take hold?

  5. #5
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, 509th Bob said:

    Unbelievable. Billions for ACORN, a criminal racketeering enterprise that engages in nationwide voter fraud. Billions in earmarks for corrupt payoffs to political contributors. Billions for unconstitutional exercises of power not granted to Congress under Article, Section 8, of the U.S. Constitution.

    A budget passed by a single political party.

    This is a “statement of our national values”? Whose nation, Nancy? You and your party are convincing me that the “nation” is not the one I live in.

  6. #6
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:02 pm, RedDog said:

    Once again, a testament to the fact that politicians think America is a product of their ideas and that her citizens live to support the goals of an all-powerful centralized government. Perfect.

  7. #7
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm, letget said:

    It would be nice if this old toad would dry up and blow away. This is not a ‘very happy day’ for me.
    L

  8. #8
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Here’s why people just don’t take the GOP seriously. For 8 years, all we heard was Dick Cheney saying “deficits don’t matter.” Then the GOP this year overwhelmingly supported Jim DeMint’s bill to lower the tax rate on the wealthiest Americans by 10%, which besides being a radical shift in the nation’s wealth to the rich also puts the country in trillions in more debt. And now you’re throwing all this “generational theft” garbage around because Democrats are irresponsible with our kids’ money? It doesn’t add up.

    I’m here to help.

  9. #9
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Hold on to your asses, folks.

  10. #10
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, RedDog said:

    This Congress has yet to adhere to a budget. Why have one? At their current rate of profligacy, they will spend $1T over and above the $3.4T in the budget. This is a waste of time.

    State troopers from all the various states should be sent to Washington DC with arrest warrants to serve on every member of this stinking Congress.

  11. #11
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, jbh45 said:

    Why this queen bee keeps being elected by her district’s queens I’ll never understand.

  12. #12
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    I hope she chokes on it.

  13. #13
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, sonofdy said:

    National bankruptcy is a national value????

    REALLY????

  14. #14
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, JusDreamin said:

    Delusional. The woman has lost all touch with reality.

  15. #15
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm, sonofdy said:

    RSS: Let me help you out. This budget increases the defict by more than the last 5 Bush budgets COMBINED.

    Not to mention most of us here CONDEMED the Bush deficts.

    I am here to help.

  16. #16
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, sonofdy said:

    ALSO RSS, this budget and obamas plan will DOUBLE the national bedt in less than 10 years.

    Am I helping yet??

  17. #17
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    At the bottom of the article:

    In the context of the federal budget, $100 million in savings is a tiny amount, critics say. It is the equivalent, according to one example, of having a car dealer offer to shave $1 from the cost of a $36,700 vehicle.

    [...]

    White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said ordinary Americans would nevertheless appreciate the savings effort.

    “Only in Washington, D.C., is $100 million not a lot of money. It is where I’m from. It is where I grew up. And I think it is for hundreds of millions of Americans.”

    Only in Washington, D.C., is a whatever-trillion dollars in spending not a lot of spending. It is where I grew up. And I think it is for hundreds of millions of Americans.

    Arrogant.

  18. #18
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    It doesn’t add up.

    The Dems’ unsustainable “budget” doesn’t add up.

    Your inability to see this for what it is doesn’t add up. You are either disingenuous or ignorant.

  19. #19
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    Pelosi is one stupid old b_tch. How ignorant is her comment?

    How many of you if this was your personal/home budget about to go into the most massive debt of your life would call it a “happy day”? None of you. But that’s really what is happening.

    I know my family would not consider it a day to celbrate.

    If you voted for Obama, Pelosi, Reed and the rest of the socialists you should be ashamed. No, you should be beaten and have your voting rights removed.

  20. #20
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm, sonofdy said:

    Oh and to help you out even more Red State Skeptic, you might want to note that BUSH IS NOT PRESIDENT ANYMORE, obama is. So you “Bush did it” whiney pathetic little excuse for an argument is meaningless since the DEMOCRATS control the white house and congress.

    I am here to help.

  21. #21
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    This woman is sickening. I can’t believe people keep voting her in. SF is hopeless.

  22. #22
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, jjmurphy said:

    Do you all remember that divorce request letter that went around a few months ago? Maybe we should think seriously about it. Our differences in what constitutes our “national values” are just too far apart to ever reconcile.

  23. #23
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    RSS: Let me help you out. This budget increases the defict by more than the last 5 Bush budgets COMBINED.

    And yet, the only solution put forth by the GOP this year was also to increase the deficit several times over.

    Not to mention most of us here CONDEMED the Bush deficts.

    Sure you did. You really spoke out in opposition to an unnecessary war because it would be too expensive for our children. And I know you really took Tom DeLay to task for his corruption in the Medicare bill.

  24. #24
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, palani said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    Here’s why people just don’t take the GOP seriously. For 8 years, all we heard was Dick Cheney saying “deficits don’t matter.” Then the GOP this year overwhelmingly supported Jim DeMint’s bill to lower the tax rate on the wealthiest Americans by 10%, which besides being a radical shift in the nation’s wealth to the rich also puts the country in trillions in more debt. And now you’re throwing all this “generational theft” garbage around because Democrats are irresponsible with our kids’ money? It doesn’t add up.

    I’m here to help.

    Huh? Just like the government is here to help, I suppose. Perhaps if you learned to count, you might understand that $10 trillion is considerably more than $2 trillion. There is a radical shift, but it’s the other way around, this time from the middle income taxpayers to those who pay nothing now.

  25. #25
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, Regulus said:

    There are times when Pelosi can go so over-the-top that all one can do is to paraphrase a line from history:

    “Have you no sense of decency, madam? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

  26. #26
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, drivingjack said:

    Just one step closer to being Europe II

  27. #27
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Funny those people who think tax cuts add to the deficit, certainly haven’t taken a look at the record revenue the treasury collected AFTER the tax cuts were implemented.

    Go look at the US Treasury Department’s figures.

    To do a 10% tax cut is to put back what Reagan’s top rate was during the 80s. 28%. That’s MORE than anyone’s fair share…

    Let’s not forget the absurd local and state income taxes added to that, not to mention the sales taxes and various other taxes added onto utilities, communications, fuel, etc.

    We are TAXED to death. Sure, certain folks in the elite class (like your liberal actors and actresses) haven’t a clue because they make absurd amounts of money that they don’t feel the pinch, but us ordinary small business owners (you know, the “rich”) feel it every single day.

    We’ve done MORE than our part.

  28. #28
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, Southpaw said:

    “What is important to us as a nation is reflected in this budget. It’s a very happy day for our country.”

    ICE raids on Napa Valley wineries would be a happy day for me.

  29. #29
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, sonofdy said:

    Oh and RSS the obamas tax cuts expire along with alot of the Bush tax cuts. Making obama a liar again.

    “Obama’s signature tax cuts from the stimulus plan — $400 for individuals and $800 for couples — are slated to expire after 2010.”

  30. #30
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, RedDog said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    And now you’re throwing all this “generational theft” garbage around because Democrats are irresponsible with our kids’ money? It doesn’t add up.

    I’m here to help.

    Democrats have controlled Congress for most of our lives. It has only been through Reagan and Bush low tax policies that we have had economic properity, not Democrat tax and spend policy.

    Budget deficits are the responsibility of Congress to address and correct. Constitutional purse strings? Remember? But for the sake of their own political interests in “spreading the wealth” and their desire to embarrass Republican Presidents, Democrats actually encouraged deficits. But Republican dare to contribute to the deficit via war funding and you call them the hypocrites. That’s rich.

  31. #31
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm, sonofdy said:

    RSS

    THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER.

    Why this need to blame every bad thing on the party who is completely OUT of power???

    YOUR party is bankrupting this country YOURS. I know you have been told to spread you masters talking points and like a good little drone, you are, but even YOU should be able to grasp that simple concept.

  32. #32
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, Ceroth said:

    Oh God, Michelle, my eyes, my eyes. Now I have to go wash out my eyes with saline solution. They’re burning from that picture.

  33. #33
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pm, right4life said:

    overwhelmingly supported Jim DeMint’s bill to lower the tax rate on the wealthiest Americans by 10%, which besides being a radical shift in the nation’s wealth to the rich also puts the country in trillions in more debt

    hey RED, its THEIR money, not the nation’s wealth…get a clue.

    a tax cut isn’t giving anyone anything….except when obama gives tax ‘cuts’ to those who don’t pay taxes…..duhhhhh

  34. #34
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, sonofdy said:

    obama spent more in his first 100 days than the ENTIRE war since 2001. Thats ON TOP of this new budget.

  35. #35
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Why this need to blame every bad thing on the party who is completely OUT of power???

    YOUR party is bankrupting this country YOURS.

    You can take issue with the Democrats all you want, but the Republicans (STILL) want to bankrupt the country just as much.

  36. #36
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, J S Ragman said:

    Somewhere in a smoke-filled room in Beijing, a group of Chinese government hacks is smiling to themselves, thinking that Karl Marx didn’t get some things right, but the part about “give a capitalist enough rope and they’ll hang themselves, and they’ll sell you the rope”, sure seems to fit right about now.

  37. #37
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic: Where will he get this money from?? YOU need to find out where obama is going to get 1.3 TRILLION dollars from. Will he borrow it? Print it?

    This is your baby, YOU explain where the FU^& obama plans to get 3.44 TRILLION dollars when we are already out of money!!!

  38. #38
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, right4life said:

    You can take issue with the Democrats all you want, but the Republicans (STILL) want to bankrupt the country just as much.

    how? by letting people keep more of THEIR OWN MONEY??? :roll:

  39. #39
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic: YOUR people are in power. And you can explain how this will work except to blame republicans???

    AAAMMMAAAZZZIIINNNGG

  40. #40
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    “we have a usurper’s budget … that is a statement of our National Socialist values,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said during the final debate on the House floor.

    “What is important to us as National Socialists is reflected in this budget. It’s a very happy day for our Democratic Socialist Communist Party.”

  41. #41
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pm, Southpaw said:

    “How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!”
    Samuel Adams

    “Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.”
    Thomas Paine

  42. #42
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    hey RED, its THEIR money, not the nation’s wealth…get a clue.

    If the wealth of the rich depends on our socialist paradise for an educated workforce, roads, electrical grid, infrastructure and robust defense, then yes it is in large part the nation’s wealth. If they don’t like it, they can join John Galt in Hungary and see where it gets them.

    Regardless, it doesn’t alter the conclusion that the GOP’s only solution to the economic crisis is to radically increase the national debt.

  43. #43
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    Obama Seeks to Change Sentence for Crack Possession

    And none too soon, I might add…

  44. #44
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm, tbear44 said:

    I still think Pelousy is related to Alan Colmes.

  45. #45
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, flmom said:

    You can take issue with the Democrats all you want, but the Republicans (STILL) want to bankrupt the country just as much.

    Proof?
    Links?
    Sources?

  46. #46
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    I think Obama is trying to start a side business like the one he had in college….

  47. #47
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic’s only response is to blame the GOP. Sad. Pathetic. Worthless.

    It must be what his masters told him to do.

  48. #48
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, expat said:

    Red State Skeptic,

    As a typical childish lib, you are only able to take credit and not responsibility. Dems have owned the senate and house for going on three years. In that time the budget has jumped more in three years with the last 100 days eclipsing all budget expenditures for the past 8 years. Be proud to be a lib and accept the responsibility for the extreme growth that you believe is needed. Or are you now worried that you libs are positioning yourselves into a corner and will be dealt with appropriately?

  49. #49
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:34 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    RSS is looking forward to being involved in the new Obama Business Model (TM), not only as a salesman, but as a user.

  50. #50
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm, jjmurphy said:

    If the wealth of the rich depends on our socialist paradise for an educated workforce, roads, electrical grid, infrastructure and robust defense, then yes it is in large part the nation’s wealth.

    So, what percent do the “rich” get to keep? Since it isn’t their money apparently.

  51. #51
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Red State Skeptic: YOUR people are in power. And you can explain how this will work except to blame republicans???

    Hey, I’m not blaming anyone. Like the right, I think running up the debt is a perfectly sensible short-term solution to get our country out of the crapper. I’m just saying don’t throw stones from the glass house.

  52. #52
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, right4life said:

    If the wealth of the rich depends on our socialist paradise for an educated workforce, roads, electrical grid, infrastructure and robust defense, then yes it is in large part the nation’s wealth. If they don’t like it, they can join John Galt in Hungary and see where it gets them.

    how did people get rich BEFORE your socialist paradise??? hmmmmm??

    a lot of them will leave the country, and I don’t blame them…why do you think Federer lives in MONACO for example??? hmmmmm????

    but I’m sure you have a plan to imprison any who dare leave…

    Regardless, it doesn’t alter the conclusion that the GOP’s only solution to the economic crisis is to radically increase the national debt.

    again how? tax cuts INCREASE tax revenue, as we have seen time and time again….

    tax increases REDUCE tax revenue…remember the ‘luxury tax’ on yachts in the 90s???

  53. #53
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, ACHefty said:

    One year and one day ago today, I wrote a column on the Congress. Excerpt:

    Ander Crenshaw, are you reading this? All I am waiting for is the next John Adams to step up and declare the “august” body in complete contempt of the United States, its citizens, its Constitution, and the laws of common sense and decency. Or at least let’s invite Tony Boselli to turn over a few buffet tables to get their attention.

    Cue the chirping crickets.

    Fade out.

    Just click it and you will get the entire sense of my frustration.

  54. #54
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm, right4life said:

    Like the right, I think running up the debt is a perfectly sensible short-term solution to get our country out of the crapper

    how’d that work in the 1930s???

    I just hope its the libs who suffer the most…..

  55. #55
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, hunter said:

    RSS

    Then the GOP this year overwhelmingly supported Jim DeMint’s bill to lower the tax rate on the wealthiest Americans by 10%, which besides being a radical shift in the nation’s wealth to the rich also puts the country in trillions in more debt.

    It is their GD money, how is a shift to the wealthiest by letting them keep their own money? Do you even listen to yourself or read what you write?

    If the wealth of the rich depends on our socialist paradise for an educated workforce, roads, electrical grid, infrastructure and robust defense, then yes it is in large part the nation’s wealth.

    WTF? I guess you already answered my question.

  56. #56
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, rightisright said:

    I just don’t understand why you intelligent conservatives bother to dignify these trolls with your responses. Do you really think your going to change the mind kool-aid drench minds and see the light, I think not. I do know it pisses ‘em off when they post their unfounded, left wing, un-American comments and nobody bothers to reply. Think about it, they only post to piss you off, they know their not going to change your ideology…but they also enjoy the aggravation they throw at you.

  57. #57
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, old trooper said:

    Red State Skeptic

    You are here to gloat. Enjoy your celebration. It is very temporary.
    You can’t be dancing in the ruins too early now, Laddie.

    Either by ballots or bullets, real change is coming. Those of Us that do not live by Food Stamps or Welfare Checks will survive to take America back after political hacks like you
    tried to sell Us out and your effort failed.

  58. #58
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic: Try explaining how this budget that you support will be paid for with out attacking republicans who have no say in this or conservatives who have even less.

  59. #59
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    RSS is not living in the land of logic. Sad.

    Funding abortions is NOT an American Value, Pelosi.

    Could someone splash some water on the old bitty and get her to melt, already. Her lying is disgusting.

  60. #60
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm, right4life said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, old trooper said:

    I’m afraid you’re wrong…we become a fascist state, following the lead of europe…a third-rate power….a third-world country..

    ever been to detroit? liberal paradise…ie hellhole, coming soon to the rest of the country………..

  61. #61
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, Southpaw said:

    “The only difference between a taxman and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin.”
    Mark Twain

    “Worried about an IRS audit? Avoid what’s called a red flag. That’s something the IRS always looks for. For example, say you have some money left in your bank account after paying taxes. That’s a red flag.”
    Jay Leno

    “There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.”
    Robert A. Heinlein

    “The point to remember is that what the government gives it must first take away.”
    John S. Coleman

    “Congress can raise taxes because it can persuade a sizable fraction of the populace that somebody else will pay.”
    Milton Friedman

  62. #62
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, flmom said:

    tax increases REDUCE tax revenue…remember the ‘luxury tax’ on yachts in the 90s???

    Yup, and it killed the yachting business for a few years. Yachting is a big contributor to the economy here in South Florida. We’re seeing another reduction since the economy has soured, any tax increase will not be good for our economy here.

  63. #63
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    Red, go play with moveon.org. Your extreme socialist eviro-sexual views are not wanted here. Your blame Bush campaign is done. Obama and his merry band of democratic thieves have done more harm to this country in 100 days than any president in history.

    Today we are less safe and worse of economically because of people like you and your anti-American, anti-capitalims, anti-God, pro socialist views. And on top of that I don’t give a d_mn what you think.

  64. #64
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    how did people get rich BEFORE your socialist paradise??? hmmmmm??

    The country has been a socialist paradise for at least 40 years, and there have been a hell of a lot of people getting rich on tax rates of 35%, 39%, 50%. Our the tax on the wealthy has NEVER been as low as 25%.

    again how? tax cuts INCREASE tax revenue, as we have seen time and time again….

    tax increases REDUCE tax revenue…remember the ‘luxury tax’ on yachts in the 90s???

    Really? Why didn’t anyone tell me that? Let’s set our taxes at 10% and everyone will be on the dole!

  65. #65
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, flmom said:

    Could someone splash some water on the old bitty and get her to melt, already.

    I think the correct way to achieve that is to show her a cross.

  66. #66
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, right4life said:

    The country has been a socialist paradise for at least 40 years, and there have been a hell of a lot of people getting rich on tax rates of 35%, 39%, 50%. Our the tax on the wealthy has NEVER been as low as 25%.

    then what are you complaining about?? and how did Edison get rich, or the Vanderbilts in the 1800s???? oh I know they EXPLOITED the poor :roll:

    Really? Why didn’t anyone tell me that? Let’s set our taxes at 10% and everyone will be on the dole!

    our economy would BOOM try econ 101 or in your case 001

  67. #67
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, Lindsay said:

    Pelosi is morphing into Joan Rivers.

    Do taxpayers pay for her Botox?

  68. #68
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, hunter said:

    Really? Why didn’t anyone tell me that? Let’s set our taxes at 10% and everyone will be on the dole!

    Idiot, we here don’t want to be on the dole, and if tax rates were a flat 10% anyone ond everyone that wanted a job would have one and the only people on “the dole” would be lazy POS with no motivation.

  69. #69
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Ragspierre said:

    an educated workforce, roads, electrical grid, infrastructure and robust defense

    Sorry…can’t help it…

    Some idiotic statements are too much an affront to both reason and the truth to allow to pass.

    We pay taxes for education. They are too high, and reflect the monopoly enforced by the teacher’s unions.

    We pay taxes for roads with every gallon of fuel we buy. Much is that money is diverted away from that use, of course.

    Our electrical grid is privately owed, in very great measure, and we pay for it in our rates.

    “Infrastructure” is mostly privately owned. It is also too nebulous a term for anyone to intelligently discuss on a finite basis.

    We pay taxes for our defense. Virtually no conservative complains of the level of spending on defense, tho we do complain about waste and extraneous BS spending imposed by Leftists on the military.

    The government generates NO WEALTH. It only confiscates wealth.

    What is objected to, and prohibited to our federal government, is the theft…under color of law…of productive Americans’ earnings, and doling out of the money to those who have no claim of right to it in order to create a dependent class, relying on government and assured to vote to continue the plunder.

    STARVE THE BEAST

  70. #70
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    how’d that work in the 1930s???

    Thank God for Google.

  71. #71
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    RSS wrote: You can take issue with the Democrats all you want, but the Republicans (STILL) want to bankrupt the country just as much.

    Hades Warming must be over, because I am agreeing with RSS. Of course, I am feeling a little weak and light-headed from the effects of seeing the debt that the Obama administration is incurring, but still – RSS is right. The budget that the GOP submitted as an alternative was bad. Not as bad, but still bad.

    Until the remaining members of the GOP hear us loud and clear about the spending, there’s no reason to support anything they do. Settling for simply “not being as bad as the other guys,” is where we lost control.

    And RSS, give it up on the military action already. Obama is (maybe) marching out of Iraq, but straight into Afghanistan and Pakistan. At the end of Obama’s term, we can debate who spent more on destroying the Middle East. Until then, it’s just an ad hominem. You’re better than that.

  72. #72
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, Lindsay said: Pelosi is morphing into Joan Rivers. Do taxpayers pay for her Botox?

    I’m sure the Health Care Plan will have a clause for that in it.

  73. #73
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, iamsaved said:

    Pelosi misspeaks. It’s not what the majority of Americans want. It’s the arrogant, so-called, elected officials telling us what they want and totally disregarding the will of the people.

    The Sixth Sense – I see stupid people voting!

  74. #74
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Red State Skeptic: Try explaining how this budget that you support will be paid for with out attacking republicans who have no say in this or conservatives who have even less.

    The only way to pay off our national debt is increased GDP. Stimulus will increase GDP as it did in the 1930′s.

    That’s it.

  75. #75
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, flmom said:

    RSS
    Increased federal spending does not create wealth, it only redistributes wealth it has confiscated from the producers. Name me one enterprise in which the Government produces and creates wealth.

  76. #76
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Anyone who thinks that the “wealth” belongs to government, obviously doesn’t pay taxes.

    Get a clue.

    The only reason the US is the greatest nation on earth (unfortunately being destroyed by the likes of left wing socialists) is because of innovation and capitalism.

    Tell me HOW taxing people more and having the government run things is going to improve the situation?

    They can’t even run the post office.

  77. #77
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Thank God for Google.

    You know, Milton Friedman actually won a Nobel Prize for debunking that particular theory.

    FDR’s spending spree took what should have been a routine, minor economic correction and prolonged it into a travesty that lasted longer than 15 years.

  78. #78
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Plundering is patriotic!! Raping and pillaging are up there too, somebody give that cow a horny helmet.

    I wouldn’t mind giving someone a Dole Pineapple-sideways. If anyone thinks THEIR taxes are too low send a check to the IRS for the difference-they will cash it I am sure. Cutting spending is not an option I am sure.

    But when the interest payments on these porkulus bills gets big enough there will be repeated crashes. Enjoy. Only a Leftist twit thinks you can borrow yourself out of debt.

  79. #79
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Stimulus will increase GDP as it did in the 1930’s.

    That is a demonstrable lie.

  80. #80
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, right4life said:

    On February 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    a) The New Deal worked wonders to get us out of the Depression. True, we weren’t totally there before WW2, but we had gone a long way. Unemployment went down dramatically every year of FRD’s presidency, except when Republicans forced him to balance the budget in 37-38, and that didn’t even include government jobs (that’s right, giving people government jobs stimulates the private sector.) Plus GDP grew 9% during FDR’s first term and 11% after the balanced budget disaster.

    laughable.

    In 1938 the unemployment rate was 19.1%, i.e. almost one out of five workers was unemployed, this is from the official Bureau of Census/Bureau of Labor Statistics data series for the 1930s

    link

    his own secretary of treasury said:

    “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work.”

    “I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises.”

    “I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot!”

    The words are those of none other than Henry Morgenthau Jr. — close friend, lunch companion, loyal secretary of the Treasury to President Franklin D. Roosevelt — and key architect of FDR’s New Deal.

    The date: May 9, 1939. The setting: Morgenthau’s appearance in Washington before less influential Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee.

    Morgenthau made this “startling confession,” as historian Burton W. Folsom Jr. calls it, during the seventh year of FDR’s New Deal programs to combat the rampant unemployment of the Great Depression.

    link

  81. #81
    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, hunter said:

    Wow RSS, you sure put us in our place by referencing yourself in a previous post with nothing to back up your numbers, but yes Thank God For Google:

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/3643

  82. #82
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:03 pm, spaceycakes said:

    This administration will cause this country to become a ‘haunt of jackals’. And those jackals will all have names like undresiege, lgm, RSS, Rusty, nyk etc etc.

    Don’t bother; they’re here.

  83. #83
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:03 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409

    Even UCLA reports that FDR’s spending prolonged the recovery.

    If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. That’s the only reason I can think of that the liberals continue to use that particular talking point.

  84. #84
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm, right4life said:

    from RSS..

    Now please quit lying and messing with my country, and let grown-ups get us out of your mess.

    your country is looking more and more like a fascist state..no surprise..

  85. #85
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm, love2rumba said:

    RSS..here is a tip…the Republicans are not in power. YOU and the DEMOCRATS own this mess NOW BECAUSE YOU AND THEY ARE IN POWER…

  86. #86
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, John Deaux said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    how’d that work in the 1930s???

    Thank God for Google.

    We could go on all day about this. If the New Deal generated as much prosperity as you claim, then why did we have 8 more years of the Great Depression? Why did Europe recover before we did without a New Deal?

    It’s been proven that Hoover’s tax on the rich and Smoot-Hawley Protectionism made the Depression as bad as it was, so here we are about to repeat the mistake.

  87. #87
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:10 pm, right4life said:

    RSS is a typical left-wing ideologue to whom facts don’t matter…government is god, and can do no wrong…

    unfortunately he/she is what most of the country has become….government stooges, uneducated and easily led…

  88. #88
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, mattm said:

    So I can get myself int huge debt that I will never be able to get out of and call it a “happy day.”

    We need term limits. NOW!!!

  89. #89
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Thought question:

    Had the US pursued free market capitalism…without the over-burden of fascist economics imposed since the 1930s…

    what would our nation look like today?

    That is not a hypothetical alone…

    there are models.

    Hong Kong

    Japan, after WWII and before the ’90s

    Irland

    Great Briton before the Twentieth Century

    The Neatherlands in the Eighteenth Century

    The US prior to 1929

    Inverse models include India after Independence, but converted after the ’90s

    Eastern Europe, before liberation and after

  90. #90
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Why is it that when I see that pic of bela pelosi, it looks like she’s just had a pangolin stick its head up her rear?

  91. #91
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic and your seriously trying to present the 1930′s as a success??

  92. #92
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, Veretax said:

    Oh, wow so I’ve been wrong. Our values are borrowing from every sucker in the world?

  93. #93
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, hunter said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, sonofdy said:
    Red State Skeptic and your seriously trying to present the 1930’s as a success??

    In the eyes of these people, it was, due to the massive increase in government control.

  94. #94
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:14 pm, sonofdy said:

    Oh, wow so I’ve been wrong. Our values are borrowing from every sucker in the world?

    I am not sure there is that much money left to borrow.

  95. #95
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:15 pm, jjmurphy said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Ragspierre said:

    yeah, what rags said!

  96. #96
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic: You still haven’t told us where your lord and master will get all this money from.

  97. #97
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    Obama Seeks to Change Sentence for Crack Possession

    And none too soon, I might add…

    Didn’t Larry Sinclair say that Obama smoked crack in the limo?

  98. #98
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I am not sure there is that much money left to borrow.

    Which means that our currency will be inflated to cheat the people holding debt instruments now…

    and lower the value of EVERYTHING you now own…

    while increasing the prices of everything you will purchase in the future…

  99. #99
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm, right_on said:

    The resolution, which was approved by a vote of 233 to 193, passed in a virtual party-line vote. All but 17 House Democrats supported it, and no House Republicans voted in favor…

    So, by liberal standards and definition, there was a bi-partisan effort to defeat the budget resolution? Woo-hoo! (Finger swirling in the air!)

    If you haven’t started to document everything that is currently happening, do so now. The Mark of the Beast (The Democrat Party) is on everything passed since January 20th. Let’s just see who will benefit from this government generosity.

    Documented proof will be hard to spin come election time. There will be NO conservatives to blame for the coming fiascoes.

  100. #100
    On April 29th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, expat said:

    RSS,

    Move to a blue state, like MI, and tell me how much better off you are. Or maybe NY, NJ or MD?

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