What’s wrong with the official apology for the Manhattan fly-by?

By Doug Powers  •  April 29, 2009 04:07 PM

The “official apology” on the White House website would appear to have a mistake in it:


Somebody needs to tell the White House to stop referring to the flight that buzzed Manhattan as “Air Force One.” The plane only gets that call sign when it’s carrying the president. Or… was it?

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  1. #1
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, purealchemy said:

    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.

  2. #2
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:12 pm, Paul Revere said:

    WHO WAS ON THE PLANE!?!?!?

  3. #5
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:15 pm, chapoutier said:

    WHO WAS ON THE PLANE!?!?!?

    Must have been Soros.

    Or is it Zbigniew Brzezinski?

    I lose track.

  4. #7
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, spaceycakes said:

    federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York

    says you.

  5. #8
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pm, NC BLUE said:

    I guess Mayor Bloomberg is not considered a state/local official since it was a newsflash to him–also scared the he## out of a lot of people. What a load of manure.

  6. #9
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, chapoutier said:

    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.

    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then.

  7. #10
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pm, Southpaw said:

    WHO WAS ON THE PLANE!?!?!?

    If NarcissObama believes in transparent government, he’ll answer that question.
    Don’t count on it.

  8. #11
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:23 pm, formerwm said:

    Does anyone know where Obama was when this happened? I too would like to know who was on that plane. If they don’t tell then there is some kind of coverup. Transparent my behind!!! Obama does not know the meaning of that word…’words just words.’

  9. #12
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pm, Pulchritudinous Patriot said:

    Hopefully the request for the manifest etc, that Michelle requested will provide us the answers…

    Meanwhile..I’m going with George Soros.

  10. #13
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    They notified the proper authorities and failed to tell Mayor Bloomberg personally? Please…that’s not taking proper steps.

    What a waste of money. And if we find out in the future that he was indeed on the plane, well, what say you MSM?

    I wouldn’t put it past him, considering he’s a media ho.

  11. #14
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pm, keving said:

    “…it’s clear that the mission created confusion panic and disruption terror.”

    FTFY

  12. #15
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:25 pm, Lindsay said:

    I think Obama should have apologized. Instead he offered a non-apology, and said (sternly but with sort of a smirk) that “it would not happen again.”

  13. #16
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    listen to some of the 911 calls….

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7452613

  14. #17
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, chapoutier said:

    And if we find out in the future that he was indeed on the plane, well, what say you MSM?

    The MSM would say he was giving a speech at the National Academy of Science that morning.

  15. #18
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I don’t think we should let this one drop, folks. There is something so strange about this whole episode. I mean, it is simply too bizare to be just a “photo op”. I don’t usually subscribe to conspiracy theories, but something is going on. We need to find out the real reason behind this fiasco. Photo op my a$$.

  16. #19
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, Hangfire said:

    We’re on a mission from God...”

    Elwood Blues

  17. #20
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Who’s got the over and under that it was Michelle taking the kids out for a joy ride?

  18. #21
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, Savage24 said:

    The other mistake in this apology is state and local officals were notified , but were told not to notify the local citizens. Who takes the blame for this? Certainly not the Messiah! The boy God with new toys.

  19. #22
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    in any case this little photo op cost the taxpayers about $328K. Stimulus we can believe in…NOT

  20. #23
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, chapoutier said:
    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.
    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then.

    Naw, just doing the job that the lazy American MSM refuses to do.

  21. #24
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Leatherneck said:

    With the UN puke blue color on Air Force One, I would think the Marine Corp would have shot the plane out of the sky thinking it was an enemy attack.

  22. #26
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Romeo13 said:

    Its because the REAL President was aboard…

    You know… George Soros?

  23. #27
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, sonofdy said:

    Of all the problems created by that flight and the memos OTHER issue, you are zeroing in on the idea that they named it air force one???

    I would think the collective peeing of 1 million sets of pants would be more important.

    I still think its funny that the entire city of New York was esentualy running away from air force one. But I am just sick that way.

    he he he

  24. #28
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, Coregis said:

    Something is unusual about the fly-by. Who was taking the pictures? Aren’t F-16 single pilot fighter planes? Are the pilots taking pictures? I serious doubt it.

  25. #29
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm, chapoutier said:

    Naw, just doing the job that the lazy American MSM refuses to do.

    Yeah…I googled “Obama plane new york” and absolutely nothing came up. Thank goodness I visit here or else I would have only heard about it on every single news program I have watched since Monday.

  26. #30
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, John Deaux said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, spaceycakes said:

    federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York

    says you.

    And then told them to keep it a secret.

  27. #31
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, Sgt.Slappy said:

    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then.

    Well Chappedpooty, that post says you certainly have the head-up-your-ass part of leftism down to a science. Somehow I doubt Michelle M will ever be as professional and punctual about it.

    Are we then to give the O a pass for this stupid jet trick? I think not, though we aren’t calling him an evil baby bombing low-altitude jet strike flying terrorist like many pants-wetting lefties would. He’s just a moron, and didn’t know any better. I think it’s obvious we don’t have an adult in the WH.

  28. #32
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, lgm said:

    MM and bloggers, I didn’t get it (wingnut snark reply here). What is wrong with the apology, aside from a slightly inaccurate description of the plane. Should he have said: “the plane whose purpose is to transport the President and uses call sign Airforce One when it does.”

    Maybe what’s really bugging you is that there was an apology. Bush never felt the need to apologize.

  29. #33
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm, Southpaw said:

    I still think its funny that the entire city of New York was esentualy running away from air force one.

    …and screaming, somehow oddly prophetic. Some photo op.

    Agree.sick.in a pleasantly twisted sort of way.

  30. #34
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm, RedDog said:

    “Last week, I approved a mission…”

    What the hell? Does this dork think he’s an Air Force general? Mission? To do what, deliver a load of ordnance on Manhattan? Someone at the Pentagon should have told them to buzz off and go play with their X-Boxes instead. Jeez, these people are loopy.

  31. #35
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    “..took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities…”

    What was the actual purpose of notifying authorities if they were then also told to keep it a secret from the public? Was it to make certain that the authorities wouldn’t be concerned and could then have fun watching people get panicked? Did they really believe that NYC and Newark authorities were just like them and would get ‘a kick’ out of watching the result of yet another manufactured crisis?

    It is totally irrational. The only thing I can think of is that they’re all smoking dope. Anyone else have a better explanation?

    Da plane! Da plane! Places everyone…

  32. #36
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, RedDog said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, chapoutier said:
    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.
    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then.

    No need to fret chap. It would take several orders of magnitude more to fully emulate.

  33. #37
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    I guess the buck stops at Louis Caldera.

    Why was any VC-25 AF1 plane, main or reserve, being used for this? Shouldn’t protocol specify that every plane used as Air Force One be prepared for use by the president at a moment’s notice? That would be known as a contingency plan. According to this, only two VC-25s are currently in use. More than one higher-up had to know this was the wrong thing to do. Something’s rotten in the District of Columbia.

    I hate thinking I sound like a conspiracist. I usually consider myself a sane, rational person.

    If I’m wrong in thinking something more is going on here, which I probably am, there’re some real numbnuts in charge of this country.

  34. #38
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, av8tr said:

    What a pantywaist. Obama is the POTUS. Making someone else fall on their sword and take responsibility is the act of a coward.

    He is disgusting.

  35. #39
    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Southpaw said:

    “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.”
    George Washington

    You have four years to be irresponsible here. Relax. Work is for people with jobs. You’ll never remember class time, but you’ll remember time you wasted hanging out with your friends. So, stay out late. Go out on a Tuesday with your friends when you have a paper due Wednesday. Spend money you don’t have. Drink ’til sunrise. The work never ends, but college the presidency does…””
    Tom Petty

  36. #40
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    lgm said:

    …What is wrong with the apology,…

    Because it totally AVOIDED apologizing for the actual wrong that was committed – telling the authorities to NOT inform the public. That is the big issue here, not just the idiotic waste of money for the flight.

    …and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.

    WHY not inform the public? You should ask Obama that question LGM cuz we know ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN et al ad neaseum are never going to demand an answer to it.

  37. #41
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:09 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Problem one: The entire mission was frivolous, wasteful and insensitive beyond belief.

    Problem two: What about the guv? If he was notified, why did he allow it?

    Problem three: If is true that Mayor Bloomberg was not notified by an underling because Obama’s office instructed him not to, why was he not fired? I don’t believe hizzonah on this one. I believe he knew about it.

    This entire episode is just plain bizarre. I can’t believe the military would do this just for a photo-op.

  38. #42
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Bump this to Problem one: Why isn’t apology for having approved the mission in the first place? The problem wasn’t that “despite taking all proper steps….”, it was that it was approved in the first place.

  39. #43
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, sonofdy said:

    What is wrong with the apology:

    2 Things.

    1/The name of the airplane. Not a big deal for me admittiably.
    2/It says they informed everyone but they fail to say that they told them to to alert the public.

  40. #44
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Well, like Stork said

    ‘what do you expect us to do, ya MO-ron?!’

  41. #45
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, Paul Revere said:

    Remember, those planes are THEIRS now!

  42. #46
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, rplatt said:

    It was not only stupid, it was grossly wasteful . . . but why should Obama care, he’ll just print a little more. Those people are a bunch of brain dead dimwits.

  43. #48
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:22 pm, Reliq6 said:

    lgm dutifully spouted left mantra of:

    Bush never felt the need to apologize.

    For buzzing Manhattan in Air Force One?

  44. #49
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, rambler said:

    Clearly, this administration doesn’t understand the impact of 9/11. The arrogance of using planes for a photo op was bad enough, but flying them into NYC air space was unforgivable. BHO has his agenda and it doesn’t include knowing how the citizens of NYC feel until he needs to be re-elected.

  45. #50
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Just giving the new dog a ride. Too bad the windows don’t open.
    Mission accomplished.

  46. #51
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, purealchemy said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, chapoutier said:
    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.
    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then

    I’m talking about TV coverage, not just this small but mighty blog.

  47. #52
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    MY Questions:
    Who was photographing What from Where? From Inside the plane?

    Wouldn’t a helicopter have been more stable?

    From Outside the plane, taking pics of the plane circling the statue of liberty? Where was the photographer located, then?

    Why?

    What th’ *?

  48. #53
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, bear1909 said:

    So the local and state authorities were notified….

    didnt Mayor Bloomberg state that he was not in the loop?

    who did they notify, those cadavers up in Albany?

    ya the “i apologize” line is wearing pretty thin… Tim Geithner doesnt pay his taxes “i’m sorry. dont shoot me”…Tom Daschle doesnt pay his taxes “i’m sorry. dont shoot me.”

    that’s the thing about apologies…when the speaker doesnt address the grievance— or even ask what the grievances are based on the impact of the perps actions— the apology is much like the lil bHo himself—shallow and meaningless.

    i wonder what the stage prop is going to be for his 100 day blow-fest on TV?

    will they show Michelle’s armpits?

    … thousand clowns.

    Bear1909 out.

  49. #54
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, EMT Bill said:

    The majority of New Yorkers will support BHO in the next election without regard to his actions or policies. In their world, it wasn’t him or his administration that erred in this action, it was some stupid underling.

    BHO can do whatever he wants with his base of support, there were not be a negative impact.

  50. #55
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, bear1909 said:

    i dunno. just keep doin stuff lil bHo. all yer doing is acting out your grandiosity and narcissistic ju ju.

    come re-election time the file tapes will tell the story and no amount of spin can win.

  51. #56
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pm, purealchemy said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:25 pm, Lindsay said:
    I think Obama should have apologized. Instead he offered a non-apology, and said (sternly but with sort of a smirk) that “it would not happen again.”

    Actually, he first called it a mistake. To me that’s more important than apologizing. Might be the second thing he’s done right besides giving the order to use deadly force against the pirates.

  52. #57
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Nice try White House, but that aircraft does not lift off without the President’s approval; that is HIS aircraft, not Louis Caldera’s.

    No way can Caldera approve the mission or any mission. If Obama delegated it, Caldera may be accountable, but since RESPONSIBILITY can never be delegated, Obama takes the hit directly for this one.

    The buck never even left his desk. it can’t go anywhere elese.

  53. #58
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, purealchemy said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, Paul Revere said:
    Remember, those planes are THEIRS now!

    Yeah! I don’t care who was on the plane but I’d sure like to see the photos and/or videos. How many close-ups of the “O” mandala would there be.

  54. #59
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:41 pm, dtb said:

    This whole attitude of “it’s easier to ask forgiveness than permission” has gotten old. Can’t wait till the door slams 0bama’s a$$ on the way out of DC.

  55. #60
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:46 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm, chapoutier said:
    Yeah…I googled “Obama plane new york” and absolutely nothing came up. Thank goodness I visit here or else I would have only heard about it on every single news program I have watched since Monday.

    Aw, baby’s first google, I’m so proud. Now, is it that all these other sources you watched or read since Monday, are they also just emulating the Left?’

  56. #61
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, bear1909 said:

    variation on an old joke….

    lil bHo and the Klingon are on Airforce One…it starts to fall from the sky?

    who gets saved?

    give up? ROFLMAO

    America!!!!

    Bad Bear1909! Bad Bear1909!!

    I APOLOGIZE! ROFLMAO!!!!

  57. #62
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, chapoutier said:

    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.

    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then.

    Well, they want us to celebrate diversity, bipartisanship, patriotism, and fair play just like they do. I think this might be an “unintended consequence.”

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force! Close the frijoles flu border. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!!

    ECS

  58. #63
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, Flyoverman said:
    Nice try White House, but that aircraft does not lift off without the President’s approval; that is HIS aircraft, not Louis Caldera’s.

    No way can Caldera approve the mission or any mission. If Obama delegated it, Caldera may be accountable, but since RESPONSIBILITY can never be delegated, Obama takes the hit directly for this one.

    The buck never even left his desk. it can’t go anywhere elese.

    You naughty boy! You’ve been listening to Rush again! He had a caller say that very same thing. Or was that you?

  59. #64
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, purealchemy said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:09 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    Problem one: The entire mission was frivolous, wasteful and insensitive beyond belief

    Moreover, what was the point of the photo op? I wasn’t aware that Air Force has an image problem.

  60. #65
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    P.S. The pilots know all too well what their aircraft designation is with the prez on board or not. Completely different call signs.

    The plane is not repeat not Air Farce One unless prez is on board.

    And anyone with any aircraft/flying experience knows that, unless you are Caldera and/or Gibbs, of course.

  61. #66
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:52 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The entire mission was frivolous

    Some days I’m cynical. I truly would like to know what the “mission” was…

  62. #67
    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pm, purealchemy said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:52 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    The entire mission was frivolous
    Some days I’m cynical. I truly would like to know what the “mission” was…

    Yeah, like I just wrote, what was the purpose of the photo op? I haven’t heard that issue discussed anywhere.

  63. #68
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pm, purealchemy said:

    They need the pictures for his re-election campaign.

  64. #69
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, bear1909 said:

    The whole hair splitting routine over whether it is Air Force One with or without the President is hooey.

    That same plane is on standby 24/7. Why is that? Because it might be needed to fly Earth Wind and Fire in for an impromptu concert? A pizza might be needed at the 11th hour? They might need some bitter herbs for the next faux seder?

    Come on. Give me a break. That plane is never released from its designation. The entire craft is made explicitly for ONE PURPOSE: Haul his bony King Ring Kissin butt around from town to town from country to country.

    If it was a photo op, was it for a Southwest Airline commercial? Heck no…it was a pimp shot for the Office of the POTUS.

    This kind of chicanery is the mark of a true school boy atrophied in his adolescence. The whole lot of them. Prank. Hoax. Signal to jihadist enemies that he could give a flip about the well being of an entire major metropolis?

    What does it matter? He is acting like an idiot teenager with too much power.

    End of story.

    The commander-in-chief doesnt even know where his own airplane is. I feel safer. Dont you?

    Bear1909 out.

  65. #70
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, MuscleDaddy said:

    Actually, there were two things wrong with said apology:

    1) It inherently means that Obama is pretending not to know anything about it.

    2) Calderon wasn’t making it from the street in front of the WH while holding his box of Office stuff.

    The follow-up FAA memo is the best part.

    – MuscleDaddy

  66. #71
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, CJ said:

    I still think its funny that the entire city of New York was esentualy running away from air force one. But I am just sick that way.

    Well, if we’re admitting to a sick sense of humor, my first reaction when I heard about the “mistake” was to laugh. I mean, New Yorkers voted for the guy by what, 5-1? But then, I had the same reaction to the DC parents whose kids are losing their vouchers.

    Elections have consequences? Who knew???

  67. #72
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, Kahuna said:

    This was a military mission. Anythimg flown by the military is a military mission, regardless of the objective. The important thing in my beady little brain is, who is the planner of this mission? Who decided it should have this level of “secrecy”? If Zero just wamts to play with his new toys (he was probably just showing off for his buds) there should be some accountability somewhere. Do you think the Air Force asks justification anytime Zero wants to go for a joy ride? They have enough problems with the Pelosi thing.

  68. #73
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Yeah…I googled “Obama plane new york” and absolutely nothing came up. Thank goodness I visit here or else I would have only heard about it on every single news program I have watched since Monday.

    Which ones? ‘Cause I’ve sampled various outlets (mostly the Internet, but some radio and tv) and the only ones NOT blaming the Air Force for this fiasco are those that lean right.

  69. #74
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm, DBNinKY said:

    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.

    Right – the MSM would have blamed President Bush personally for this, but they aren’t Obama; instead, they consistently accuse the Air Force and Caldera of being insensitive and thoughtless in conducting the NYC flyover/photo op.

  70. #75
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, hunter said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, CJ said:

    Well, if we’re admitting to a sick sense of humor, my first reaction when I heard about the “mistake” was to laugh. I mean, New Yorkers voted for the guy by what, 5-1? But then, I had the same reaction to the DC parents whose kids are losing their vouchers.

    Elections have consequences? Who knew???

    I could not agree with you guys more. You reap what you sow also works. You put him there people.

  71. #76
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    I went to see what the messiahs faithful bots are saying at DU. I quick look and I was able to read a half dozen comments stating that it HAD to be some sort of a Rovian scheme by some GOP mole at work. They simply cannot accept that anyone in the administration could possibly have screwed up. And you would not believe the number of comments that find the whole idea of freaked out New Yorkers funny. Some wiser heads have been taking them to ask on the joking around. More from being worried at it being used against them than from any concern about it being in bad taste. Looks like they actually locked one thread because of the comments. I am sure they will send as many of them down the “memory hole” as they can.

  72. #77
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    not “ask” but ‘task” LOL sory

  73. #79
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:20 pm, 24Klady said:

    If this wasn’t some frivolous outing for “somebody” or an unneeded photo op (operation or opportunity?) – perhaps they’d like to explain why 3 military aircraft were on training missions over the city of New York. Is it routine to practice over a city of gargantuan size potentially threatening the lives of thousands should one of the 3 aircraft encounter a problem and crash? I’m not a conspiracy believer either but something is really wrong with all the explanations given.

  74. #80
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:23 pm, 24Klady said:

    Might add – seeing the smirk at the end of ‘Bambi’s mea culpa pretty well convinced me this was no surprise to him either.

  75. #81
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:26 pm, 55dodger said:

    I think the wife and kids were bored so he sent them out on a day trip….

  76. #82
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:32 pm, av8tr said:

    Good questions all, grandma.

    Are we to believe the F-16 was the photo platform?

    How about the WH releases the images (not photoshopped images) of this mission.

    Usually, air-to-air photo shoots fly abeam the camera platform, not behind, unless the F16 driver was shooting the pics while flying his aircraft. Maybe they only wanted images from behind, of the tail?

    Something’s not right here…

  77. #83
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:34 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, chapoutier said:
    If this had happened under George Bush’s watch, the left would never shut up about it.
    Four posts in the last day seems to indicate MM and Co. are apparently trying very hard to emulate the left, then.

    “Four posts in the last day”…Wow, has Chap gotten religious overnight?
    I’m so glad the MSM is chasing this story–NewsBusters reported that Katie Couric was furious–she acted like a pit bull with lipstick last night!

  78. #84
    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:52 pm, graysonret said:

    That plane is never released from its designation

    The plane is never designated “AF1″ until the President is aboard. Any other time, it has a regular designation. As soon as the President sets foot on the plane, the pilot notifies the tower that he is now “AF1″. In other words, the President could decide to take a little flight out of a small local airport on a little cessna, if he wanted to…tourism, maybe. As soon as he gets aboard, that little cessna is officially designated “AF1″, with all the perks that go with the designation, until he steps off. I certainly don’t think the pilot of that 747 reported it as “AF1″ and flew it to NYC. Of course, these days, who knows? It is so screwed up in D.C., it’s an anything goes atmosphere, as shown by the Congress going beserk and a President who can’t talk without someone writing it on a teleprompter.

  79. #85
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:02 pm, heroyalwhyness said:

    #23 sonofdy said:
    I still think its funny that the entire city of New York was esentualy running away from air force one. But I am just sick that way.

    he he he

    LOL! +++

  80. #86
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:02 pm, T-Bone said:

    Since the White House guy verified it was a “mission”, this is definitely Obamsa “mission accomplished” moment just like Bushs aircraft carrier banner.

    The left beat that horse to death with W even though he never uttered those words. Aides put up a banner. But to the left that was reason to criticize a sitting President during wartime. Unforgiveable.

    Now they should be consistent and criticize Obama for his “mission accomplished” moment. Per Obama, it was his aides fault as well. Lets hear it lefties, he is a horrible stupid man.

    Oh and I love how he admits mistakes where Bush was chastised for never admitting a mistake. Of course for Obama, he admitted that someone else made a mistake. Beautiful. You see, its hard to be President. No quarter for Bush, no quarter for Obama then. What goes around come around.

    And I might add that the Bush moment did not involve terrorizing anyone except those that didn’t want to see Bush be effective in the war on terror while Obamas terrorized and scared the crap out of untold numbers of Americans. Much , much worse. Right Bill Maher you idiot sychophant? Let’s hear it then.

  81. #87
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm, crashemt said:

    I, for one, can’t wait to see the photos. Has anyone submitted the FOIA?

    BTW, no reason to keep this TS, unless some “Mission Critical” element was on board.

  82. #88
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm, crashemt said:

    I hate to point this out:

    When GWB flew his mission to Iraq (under TS cover so tight that even most of his staff had no clue that he was not in the Country), his plane left under a non-designated tail number. In fact, there was worry about other commercial traffic identifying flight 1 as AF1. Flight 2 went under cover of needing service, and parked in an undisclosed location in a nearby country.

    All of this was released on the History Channel on AF1.

    All that said, It is not AF1 if the President is not on-board. But since when have the Democrats allowed proper protocol to supercede their flex of political muscle.

    Isn’t being an a** the meaning and purpose of a Democrat’s existance?

  83. #89
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:23 pm, John Deaux said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, bear1909 said:

    The commander-in-chief doesnt even know where his own airplane is.

    I own a car that’s a heck of a lot smaller than a 747 and I know where it is at all times.

  84. #90
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:28 pm, cheapseat said:

    aloha guy 45 lol. he was flying low enough to open them windows and let bo drool down the pretty blue banner. bo should have commandeered the copilot seat and opened that window to catch the breeze. in all candor, stupid pet trick, now let’s move on. new york deserves whatever comes, and this time we will see if barry will fight a war for new york’s dead.

  85. #91
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:48 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    come re-election time the file tapes will tell the story and no amount of spin can win.

    To quote another poster here, “Don’t under estimate the power of Stoopid.”

    Anyway, the mission, should you really choose to know it, is to get the country ready for a real terrorist attack.

    Next time some planes appear to be flying into a building, everyone will just say, “Oh that’s just The One “funning” with us again.”

    Then everyone will stay in place, go about their businees, the planes will crash into the buildings and more people will die because they were too stoopid to take precautions.

    Really. Got it right offa The One’s website.
    /humor off

  86. #92
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:55 pm, Stillwaiting said:

    The real questions are…who knew who was on the plane? And when did they know it???? haha!!!

  87. #93
    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm, conservative in europe said:

    10 to 1 he pulled a Clintonesque “Linclon Bedroom” scenario and had one of his felon buddies getting a ride in the plane..

  88. #94
    On April 29th, 2009 at 8:00 pm, MuscleDaddy said:

    Being Air Force One, we can be pretty sure there were some M*****F****n’ SNAKES on that M*****F****n’ Plane!

    Heh – couldn’t resist.

    – MD

  89. #96
    On April 29th, 2009 at 8:16 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On April 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm, conservative in europe said:

    10 to 1 he pulled a Clintonesque “Linclon Bedroom” scenario and had one of his felon buddies getting a ride in the plane..

    That is along the same line of thought I had! Big donors getting a perk. Of course, maybe it was Arlen Specter literally getting on board.

  90. #97
    On April 29th, 2009 at 8:30 pm, T-Bone said:

    “I think highly of Arlen Spector”

    Definite proof Obama is an idiot.

  91. #98
    On April 29th, 2009 at 8:52 pm, scrubjay said:

    Are there any sightings of Obama at any other location during the time that the presidential plane was in flight?

  92. #99
    On April 29th, 2009 at 8:54 pm, MrOlympia said:

    I heard Snoop Dog was the pilot and there were plenty of fresh “herbs” available for consumption.

    We have the greatest POTUS ever. Just aks him. He should be the World President. Just aks him. We are so blessed to have him. cough cough……ahem

  93. #100
    On April 29th, 2009 at 9:05 pm, scituate_tgr said:

    crashemt said: … Has anyone submitted the FOIA?

    MM filed, but I can’t find the story where she stated the details.

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