Bluff called
President Obama said the following at a town hall meeting/100th day in office sermon:
“Those of you who are watching certain news channels on which I’m not very popular, and you see folks waving tea bags around, Obama said, “let me just remind them that I am happy to have a serious conversation about how we are going to cut our health care costs down over the long term, how we are going to stabilize Social Security.”
Strange that Obama could so easily reference something he was unaware of, but nonetheless, tea party organizers are taking the president up on the offer (they say “accepted his offer” because “called his bluff” sounds too harsh for hope):
The National Leadership Team of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition today accepted President Obama`s invitation “to have a serious conversation about how we are going to cut our health care costs down over the long term, how we are going to stabilize Social Security.”
The invitation was extended by the President at a Town Hall Meeting held in Arnold, Missouri today. Michael Patrick Leahy, a member of the National Leadership Team of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition, said “We want to broaden the scope to address the President`s runaway march to socialist-statism, and the rampant across the board irresponsible spending he is promoting with his $787 Billion Stimulus Plan and his $1 Trillion Annual Deficit, his takeover of General Motors, Chrysler and the Banks.”
The rest of that press release is here.
Of course, the president’s “invitation” was of the “kiss my royal butt” variety, so don’t expect an actual meeting to come from any of this.
You’ll notice how the entire tea party movement is being dismissed as a Fox News stunt, which anyone who’s followed this since the beginning knows is a complete pile of Pelosi. As a matter of fact, didn’t this whole thing, at least in part, get rolling because of Santelli’s “rant” on CNBC?
One frustration for the left that lingers from the Tax Day tea parties is that when the liberal sock-puppet media did show up, they were only fishing for wackos to discredit the tea party movement and instead ended up providing everyone with laughable examples of their own bias.
Thanks though to the president for helping boost attendance on July 4th even higher than it would have otherwise been.
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I would think they’d be more noticable.
OBAMA’S SLIGHT OF HAND
YESTERDAY’S SPEECH IN MISSOURI
How many people see the word manipulation
this guy uses.
`WE HAVE DONE THE WORK TO REMAKE AMERICA” = SOCIALISM
He goes on to talk about fairness and equality in america = SOCIALISM
As well as he told everyone this during his campaign = HOPE & CHANGE
I will CHANGE you to SOCIALISM and HOPE you don’t notice to quickly!
People really need to wake up and start understanding what this guy is saying!
The People’s Front of Judea?! NOOOOOO!
The Judean People’s Front!!
I don’t thinnk it would happen but we do need someone to debate duh1 because after watching last night’s sermon it is obvious that Miss California gets tougher questions than AirForceTheOne. Credits to Dennis Miller of course.
Substance from Obama. That’s an oxymoron, lgm.
Funny, glancing at the website for the budget, it contains lots of serious numbers.
Oath Keepers
Such a time is near at hand again. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this Army – and this Marine Corps, This Air Force, This Navy and the National Guard units of these sovereign states.
Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it.
Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and that oath will be kept. We won’t “just follow orders.”
http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/2009/03/oath-keepers-declaration-of-orders-we.html
Here’s a real suggestion for you, you tiny brained, water carrying, automatonic zombie: How about actually limiting the scope of the Federal Government’s power to what is written in the Constitution. Is that serious enough for you, fool? Or do you want to go on record as being against the Constitution? I know that you won’t even read this response. You’ve scurried back to Libtard Land to get the next shovel full of crap to dump on the next thread. I can hear you now saying, “Yesss, Master”, as you shuffle back to sully this blog with your Overlord’s load.
An UNCONSTITUTIONAL law is still an UNCONSTITUTIONAL law, and a violation of the oath of office of any that voted for it, including the President.
Speaking of disregard for the constitution and contempt for the governed.
http://www.necn.com/Boston/New-England/2009/04/28/Swine-flu-pushes-emergency/1240961443.html
ROFLMBO
Serious poetry of Bear1909 magnitude!
Thanks sambo!
But to them, our Constitution is a tub of lard that can be smeared, shaped, sculpted, etc., into anything they want it to say. There are no founding principles…just what you can get away with.
It’s time to take that delusion away from them.
happyscrapper said (#84):
You don’t actually. There is such a thing as civil debate. I don’t insult anyone who hasn’t insulted me first.
stillontheroad said (#85):
ACORN did not get 4 Billion.
Yep. You should try it some time instead of aping chap.
1) Happy was bantering with Chap. Chap understood that and responded in kind.
2) You have insulted people here who have not insulted you first.
No worries, Happy and I have a very cordial e-relationship.
This is actually the first time I ever recall lgm responding directly to anything I have written.
LGM Said:
Sorry that was 2 Billion:
Community Funds received 1 billion in addition to some individual funds from the Recovery act. Such as 700 million more of funds and another 325 million
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/acorn_gets_2_billion_from_ecnomic_stimulus_spending_spree/
Sorry, it is not. Also, lgm has no idea what debate means. That is why a lot of us like you chap. You have an opposing view point without talking points. You make your points and back what you believe up. We have gone at it and I have enjoyed our times (mostly I like the zombie stuff with a little 7 of 9 mixed in). Really though, I like it better when you have had a few drinks!
And when isn’t that, exactly?
lgm may have responded to me in the past. I just don’t recall.
Chap,
I used the word “aping” because he repeats your thoughts and may not respond to you (although I believe he has several times and cannot find the posts so I will defer).
As for the debate part, I cannot debate someone who essentially comes here and does the “Republicans are all evil and the cause of all problems around the world. Obama said so by apologizing. Prove me wrong.”
My only response to someone like that is and has been, “you are an idiot”.
Boy, you folks sure are smart – people all over the world from Presidents to intellectuals to housewives love this guy – but you folks are able to see right through him.
And everything you see is negative – and you expect people to actaully believe you?
Amazing
Idiot right on cue.
People all over the world from Presidents to intellectuals to housewives also hate this guy. What is your point?
See what I mean chap? You would NEVER stoop to this kind of tripe.
like PT said, there’s a sucker born every minute!!
be you think Obama cares for you!!
loser
This is the same guy who gave Hillary the finger on national TV. Mature? He hasn’t even left Jr. High.
I never thought I would say this to a stinking liberal, but I kinda love you, Chappy.
Idisgustmycountry – There was a time in Germany when everyone including little old ladies and children and even the dogs liked Hitler… but there were some who saw through him.
Learn your history and get back to us… in say, oh… 10 years.
Heard yesterday that to show support for the Tea Partys until the next one you should drive around with a box of tea on your dashboard!
Who gives a crap who loves him… he’s a dangerous man, with misguided ideas, leading a nation into the fiscal and moral basement.
Only in a car you don’t mind getting trashed.
Obama has a serious case of the “Stupid Flu” and it has become a pandemic. The only cure for it is an honest election.
You insult our intelligence with every biased, unsubstantiated accusatory post you make.
A quote from a good friend of mine comes to mind right now:
“You are an idiot” – On-my-soap-box
Besides the nation in the basement, I think it’s not only pointless to chase after a celeb figure, but also lacks guts to stand alone on principles and reject being a follower.
“Look at me…I agree with Thee” B.S. is what’s wrong with society, so easily lulled into whatever cult, ‘-ism’ or personality that comes down the pike.
I heard it said once that Obama could become President when pigs fly…
After 100 days – swine flu anyone?
Sarkozy and Merkel beg to differ.
Hug and fistbump. See, Obama is bringing us all closer together. We will end up huddling close for warmth around the trash can fires, singing to keep our spirits up…
Just clingin’ to my money, freedom and teabags. BHO needs to get over himself.
As Abraham Lincoln said, “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
So that’s how “pay lip service” is spelled.
They were happy to create Porkulus without Republican input. They were happy to see it through Congress without a conversation even amongst their ownselves! They are governing be fiat via Presidental Orders in lieu of legislation. They connive to get an unstoppable 60 votes in the Senate to rubber stamp the Socialist De-Evolution of the US. But you can’t expect drooling journ-stars to call him on any of that, even at a press conference, because the last thing any of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy wants is a real conversation.
Of course you have to realize that, to Obama, ‘Having a serious conversation’ means ‘You come here and I *tell* you what we are going to do!’
Followed up by he claiming that he tried to be bipartisan but you just wouldn’t work with me – I WON!
Yeah, but Sarkozy is just pissed because he had already planned on giving Gordon Brown DVDs for his next birthday and Merkel misses the backrubs.
While the beer he was to have with Hannity gets warm, the tea will get cold.
Now that’s just funny.
Or maybe they were expecting fist bumps and all they got were goose bumps.
Something interesting is brewing when Fox’s “Lie to Me” beats out all the other media channels broadcasting “100 Days of Little Caesar” for prime time viewership.
I’m sure Brown would love the French versions and Merkel strikes me more of a neck lock kind of girl, back rubs, not so much.
Here’s a bit of perspective and reality check…
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/28/baracks-in-the-basement/print/
Gallup polling show THE ONE is the second least popular president at this point in office since 1969.
Oh Ilovemycountry, there are quite a few intellectuals on this site, but it takes one to know one.
This is a good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE
Laree…
EXCELLENT demonstration!!!
Here’s another reality check Ragspierre, I don’t know where The Washington Times purports to get its Gallup number, but as you can see here, which is from, you know…Gallup itself, Obama’s approval rating after 100 days is 65%.
I don’t know how that stacks up to other presidents after 100 days, but considering the Moonies can’t even get the most recent numbers right, I don’t put a whole lot of faith in the ones for the other presidents.
That video has gone viral!
You do realize that he’s spotted 13 points on any pole…don’t cha chapp!
According to Gallup’s April survey, Americans have a lower approval of Mr. Obama at this point than all but one president since Gallup began tracking this in 1969. The only new president less popular was Bill Clinton, who got off to a notoriously bad start after trying to force homosexuals on the military and a federal raid in Waco, Texas, that killed 86. Mr. Obama’s current approval rating of 56 percent is only one tick higher than the 55-percent approval Mr. Clinton had during those crises.
Dunno. Your brief is with the Times or Gallup.
Ah, I saw an article on this recently, I’ll try and track it down. Since Eisenhower that would put him middle of the roadish if I recall correctly. No one is even close to Kennedy who was over 90%, but 65% is Carter, Johnsonish – but I’ll find it.
That’s 53!!! 53!!!
Is that a fact??
Aloha,
Not quite sure this is what you are talking about, but interesting nonetheless.
Be fair, Chap. There’s always some discrepancy in how these things are read. From the very same gallup site…
The Times piece references an “attached chart”…
which I cannot find.
That could argue that the piece was less-than-straight.
Note: this is called “intellectual integrity”.
I did find this on Gallup’s site…
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117598/Obama-Averages-Approval-First-Quarter.aspx
Salt,
That would be well and good. Goodness knows every side uses the statistics that best support their side. But an “approval rating”, which is what WaTimes cites, is very specific and very well known term.
Does anyone have a paper copy? It cites some chart that I am hoping provides the basis for their number. Their crappy, poorly designed site, however, does not have it.
And it is appreciated.
Who are these people running this coalition and who appointed them?
Who are they to speak for everyone who went to tea parties?
this is creepy to me.
sorry if already said I havent waded thru the other comments yet
Limbaugh mentioned today that the time is perfect for the conservatives to make their move. The liberals are continually shooting themselves in the foot and it is becoming more and more evident to the public. We just need an attractive, articulate person to stand up and refute what is going on, in a strong, unwavering voice. Someone who is not afraid to get out there and in their faces, like Rush does. The msm will ignore that person, but he/she must be determined. If this person is conservative enough, and articulate enough, we might have a chance. Who will step up to the plate? Someone in a state legislature somewhere…or a mayor or a governor…somewhere there is a person who could save this country! I haven’t seen anyone yet who fits the bill. NO ONE!! I don’t think Sarah Palin is the answer. She has been marginalized and is too polarizing now. Perhaps as a VP candidate, but not as the top person.
Dont forget that he’s also spotted 85% of another 15 point!
I’ve been trying to find it as well and have come up empty. It does make me suspicious of the editorial.
Rasmussen has him at 54%.
Source.
Gallup had him at 83% back in January. That’s an 18 point drop. How would that have read if it were Bush?
President approval rating drops 18 points from high in latest poll.
I wonder that myself. If someone has formed a coalition without the backing of the people who ARE the grass roots, then they are certainly assuming a lot, aren’t they? Like, who asked them to be our voice? And who needs them? This is almost like stealing a trademark or something. I resent it.
This wasn’t the same article, but it’s fine. The thing I saw definitely tried to peg Kennedy over 90% though. According to this then, he’s average. Heh-heh. A mere mortal, and lower than Carter…
I also recently saw that Cheney had a 58% approval rating at 100 days, compared to 51% for Biden.
I have to wonder about the scientific validity of a poll, however, that purports to compare a series of American presidents without correcting for some extremely important variables.
One, look at the break-down along racial lines. You will note that African-American respondents are in virtual unity in approval. That certainly suggests two things: racial identity is a driving factor in their responses, and was more important than the known preferences for pro-life policy and school options that are well-documented; second, that unity would skew the poll, as compared to other presidents.
I suggest another possible variable that has not been considered if their methodology has not been tweeked; there is a pronounced “guilt-factor” among many Americans expressed in the US that could very probably skew the data as to “approval” of any African American president upward.
Note – how many “newly elected Presidents” since 1953 have we had? This is still middlish ground. They may be hoping someone would think “fourth highest of fouty-four”. It’s that slant in the media again, whether intended or not.
No no. It would have had to read:
Presidential approval rating drops 56.7 points from highest in latest poll.
Hey, you asked.
Makes you wonder if it’s a group of “lifelong republicans” that will debate Obama and lose handily and then concede they were wrong to doubt him.
Where were you the last eight years? They pointed out every drop in his approval and always mentioned the fact that his high was in the nineties and how he squandered it.
And, Aloha, I’d have to cry foul over mixing numbers from one poll with another.
Not that the MSM would have any scruples…
Arlen Specter switched parties too early for the “debate”.
B-cat and a few others,
We are on the same page.
If these self annointed leaders of the tea party movement start willy nilly making declarations on the behalf of attendees…not good.
I would caution them two things:
1. You do not speak for everyone. If you are going to actually meeet with him speak for yourself do not claim you speak for the whole.
2. By meeting with obambi on these very narrow issues, which are HIS priorities for the next 100 days, like it or not you tacitly indicate what the tea parties were protesting are resolved issues lets move on to this now.
Rags,
Just to be clear, I am making no judgments as to the veracity or usefulness of Gallup’s numbers, or the validity of Obama’s approval ratings as compared to other presidents. I am just pointing out I have no clue where the Washington Times purports to get their figure that they use as their basis.
Happy,
I wonder that myself. If someone has formed a coalition without the backing of the people who ARE the grass roots, then they are certainly assuming a lot, aren’t they? Like, who asked them to be our voice? And who needs them? This is almost like stealing a trademark or something. I resent it.
Kiss the tea party concept bah bye if that is the case and it sure sounds like it doesnt it!!!
I am just highly suspicious of anyone who presumes to speak for the tea parties. There are a lot of folks who would do that, and would screw things up. Kinda like politicians trying to horn in. It is going to be hard to keep the movement “pure”, but we have to keep trying.
Chaps:
Agreed…and the lack of support for their assertions is certainly a red flag.
Happy,
it is one thing to streamline the coordination it is a WHOLE NUTHA thing to say I will meet with POTUS on YOUR behalf whoaaa there put the brakes fella
I absolutely agree!!
utoh I must have pissed someone off my last post was rejected due to me posting too fast!! lolo
I shall try again:
Why don’t we have votes AT the tea parties ( nothing online ) as to what
are top issues etc?
I appoint myself leader of the tea party movement.
In an effort to keep this movement pure, I will purge it of all so- called “green” teas. Also, any tea with a liberal wussy name like “chamomile” need not apply.
What? That ISN’T what the tea party movement is about?
Chap
MWAHAHAHA good one
And who is this guy, “Michael Patrick Leahy, a member of the National Leadership Team of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition”?? I thought Patrick Leahy was a liberal senator. Isn’t that name suspicious? I think this man needs to identify himself a bit more and tell the people of the tea party movement how he has come to “represent” us. Kinda “brassy”, wouldn’t you say?
You are probably closer to the truth than the MSM has come!! They think it is an anti-CNN, anti-government movement. So I guess your definition is as good as any! Ha!
happy,
poke around the website specially this:
http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/about.php
why 36 who decided that? and why does the link go back to chicago?
happyscrapper said (#165):
Not really. Obama’s ratings are holding pretty steady, despite what some in this thread are saying.
The GOP does attractive and unwavering pretty well. Reagan, Bush, Palin, Cantor. Looks and voice are not what the GOP lacks.
Conservatives surely don’t have an “In your face” deficit either.
You need a message that makes sense. It can’t be “taxes = socialism” or that global warming is made up. You might think so but the vast majority of Americans don’t.
Sarah Palin lacks credibility because she was proven to be a hypocritical lying know nothing (is this too harsh?).
Any attempt to hi-jack, divert, un-track, shang-hi, or otherwise mess with the TEA Party concept has to be ANTICIPATED.
Power-players know the game.
They play it hard.
People need to be aware. They need to be forearmed.
Happy,
look at the banner of the website
it says “we have no generals”, yet they have just anointed themselves generals!
and what is with the creepy disclaimer of this leahy guy at bottom of list:
http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/about.php
Hey Doug do you know these people you posted this?
What the…?? Who are these people? They really have appointed themselves, haven’t they? And for Michael Patrick Leahy to agree to meet with the president on behalf of the Tea Parties is presumptuous and UNACCEPTABLE!
Michelle Malkin…what say you???
Only if a stupid lying statement is considered harsh…
Harsh. no. Dishonest, yes.
You were actually sounding half intelligent, then you lost me at the last sentence.
Mostly gibberish.
You beat me, Rags.