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1. #201
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, bansharia said:

   Happy,
   pssst Doug posted this not MM

2. #202
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:07 pm, bjc said:

   Happyscrapper:You mention about someone stepping forward per Rush to speak for conservatives against the oncoming socialist policies; Here is my take:
   **It will be a number of voices as it is too early for interest in 2012.
   **They will be GOP members, like it or not, as third party is a non-starter.
   **Most successful will be those not currently in D.C. or with D.C. baggage(Newt).
   **Best traits would be fiscally conservative and socially center-right.
   **And among them should be Romney, Palin, Sanford, Jindal, Perry, Pence, and DeMint.
   **And whoever among them that promotes the Fair Tax to blowout the logjam of corruption that currently resides in D.C. will have the people on their side.
   **I would be well pleased with Sanford.

3. #203
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, bansharia said:

   Speak,
   well obambi has a gift or so he says

4. #204
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, happyscrapper said:

   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, bansharia said:
   Happy,
   pssst Doug posted this not MM

   Oh…that’s right. Sorry about that. I would like Doug’s opinion, but I would like to hear what Michelle has to say about this too.

5. #205
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:10 pm, sonofdy said:

   LGM: When you keep slanting your polls so that you ask the questions of more and more democrats than anyone else, you will get a steady poll number. Trust me. Americans are beginning to see through obamas lies.

   Like global warming.

6. #206
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   Idiot blathered:
   It can’t be “taxes = socialism” or that global warming is made up. You might think so but the vast majority of Americans don’t.

   Nobody ever said taxes = socialism.
   Man caused Global warming IS made up.

   vast majority of Americans

   Majorities = truth? World = flat mean anything to you? The majority of Germans thought Hitler was right too. Shall I go on and pick you apart or shall I allow us all to share?

   P.S. the majority of us think you are an idiot.

7. #207
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, jangar said:

   On April 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, bansharia said:
   Who are these people running this coalition and who appointed them?

   Trolls co-opting the movement so Obama has the easy advantage should a debate actually happen? Nahhhhh…..sounds too McCainish.

   What pisses me off is that libs still call it ‘teabagging’, and continue to characterize it as opposition against spending, when it’s a whole lot more than that!

8. #208
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:12 pm, sonofdy said:

   http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

   Global sea ice averages.

9. #209
   On April 30th, 2009 at 4:13 pm, bansharia said:

   Happy,
   looks like we hit too close to home, the thread is being tossed red herrings to discuss….

10. #210
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:13 pm, Ragspierre said:

    pssst Doug posted this not MM

    But does not the god of threads hear all prayers…

11. #211
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:16 pm, sonofdy said:

    bansharia: The global ice chart usualy expells lgm for a while. Its like garlic to a vampire. Obama will never enter an arena where he is not worshiped. Someone might ask him a real, unscripted question. We can’t have that now can we???

12. #212
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, bansharia said:

    Jang,
    some guy who appointed himself leader who has a disclaimer to boot!!
    its laughable:
    http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/about.php

    can’t you just see him picking out a tie looking in mirror and mumbling ” I am ready for my closeup mister axelrod “

13. #213
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:18 pm, chapoutier said:

    LGM: When you keep slanting your polls so that you ask the questions of more and more democrats than anyone else, you will get a steady poll number. Trust me. Americans are beginning to see through obamas lies.

    When more people identify themselves as Democrat rather than Republican, it is only natural that more dems will answer the poll.

14. #214
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:20 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags,
    no idea she said she is busy but yes in theory Doug or any other person who posts on her blog she is answerable for.

    Sons,
    don’t care about obami or lgm. some idiot is trying to hijack the tea party.
    love ya anyway

15. #215
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, sonofdy said:

    chapoutier: if you say so.

16. #216
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:22 pm, sonofdy said:

    bansharia: Are the guys on that link actualy tea party people?

17. #217
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Bans;

    this is to be EXPECTED. It has to be EFFECTIVELY responded to.

    This is the Bigs, as they say.

18. #218
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, jangar said:

    “I am ready for my closeup mister axelrod”

    KGB-like

19. #219
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:27 pm, bansharia said:

    Son,
    They say they coordinated all by themselves the various tea parties listed by their names it seems.
    I have no idea who they are why this one guy fancies himself spokesman for everyone who attended why he needs a disclaimer etc. it is all very creepy to me.

20. #220
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags,
    totally agree.
    mark me down as HEY bonehead you don’t speak for me

21. #221
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, sonofdy said:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10569713

    off topic but this is the type of healthcare system libs are aiming for.

    off topic again. I have 2 sleeping pregnant women in my front room snoring away. Its funny.

22. #222
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, jangar said:

    This is the Bigs, as they say.

    Like a damn mean cat that done left the bag. I wouldn’t doubt for a minute that it’s all a hoax in an attempt to further downplay the anger and frustration foaming over in every city, town and burb.

23. #223
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, Ragspierre said:

    When more people identify themselves as Democrat rather than Republican, it is only natural that more dems will answer the poll.

    No, hardly.

    How THAT data was obtained would have to be explored.

    Plus, we are likely not talking about seven point spreads. We are likely talking about 2-3% with a margin of error, and that seeks to bifurcate the population along two party lines, making no provision for others (at least in that data).

24. #224
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, jangar said:

    I have 2 sleeping pregnant women in my front room snoring away. Its funny.

    Off Topic: I’m Sorry. Oh, and how are those twins cooking?

25. #225
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:33 pm, sonofdy said:

    Off Topic: I’m Sorry. Oh, and how are those twins cooking?

    33 weeks. Both my wife and my sister are now on bed rest so I am a busy boy. The twins almost came while I was at BNCOC.

26. #226
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Like a damn mean cat that done left the bag. I wouldn’t doubt for a minute that it’s all a hoax in an attempt to further downplay the anger and frustration foaming over in every city, town and burb.

    Look, I know it’s a movie…

    not reality.

    But watch Meet John Doe. It is a great parable for what we are experiencing.

27. #227
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, bansharia said:

    Son,
    OT vid them and send to AFV!
    are the drooling too? extra points for that
    all kidding aside how Blessed you are.
    are you sposed to be making them dinner and yammering with us instead?
    get crackin!!!

28. #228
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, sonofdy said:

    sister = my wifes sister. Same thing really.

29. #229
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, sonofdy said:

    ban Its 2:30 here. Besides they like making dinner. It helps them to avoid going crazy. Its about all they can do.

30. #230
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:36 pm, bansharia said:

    OT
    When polls are done people are called BASED on thier party affiliation there is no such thing as outta the blue they say they are so it becomes skewed.

31. #231
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:27 pm, bansharia said:
    Son,
    They say they coordinated all by themselves the various tea parties listed by their names it seems.
    I have no idea who they are why this one guy fancies himself spokesman for everyone who attended why he needs a disclaimer etc. it is all very creepy to me.

    I’m kinda creeped out too. The website makes it look like they are a well-organized, up and running group that speaks for the tea parties. Who gave them that authority?? I definitely think Michelle needs to check into this group and find out where they came from and what their plans are. They may just be a harmless group who thinks they are doing a job for the tea parties. It is a fact that there was a lot of networking being done at the rallies, and maybe someone just picked up the ball and ran with it. I just don’t like the idea of a small group of people thinking they speak for the rest of us. That is what elections are for and no one elected anyone for that! They are being very presumptuous.

32. #232
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, jangar said:

    off topic but this is the type of healthcare system libs are aiming for.

    Not really off topic…it has become a lib issue, and one that the Bamster wants to discuss with Der Teabagger.

    And how does that socialized medicine work? I don’t have the actual numbers, but aren’t the swine flu deaths in Mexico around 150+ vs. 1 in the US?

33. #233
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, bansharia said:

    oh boy a simple yahoo search shows this guy to be a very active self horn tooter:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=michael+patrick+leahy&fr=yfp-t-305&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

34. #234
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    The website makes it look like they are a well-organized, up and running group that speaks for the tea parties.

    Actually, I think that site makes them look amatuerish.

35. #235
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:42 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:33 pm, sonofdy said:
    Both my wife and my sister are now on bed rest so I am a busy boy.

    I am certain this is why beer was invented.

    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, sonofdy said:
    It helps them to avoid going crazy.

    Oh, and that too!

36. #236
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, chapoutier said:

    I guess the “We have no generals” quote in their header really meant to say “We have no generals (only a self appointed “National Leadership Team”).

37. #237
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, happyscrapper said:

    And how does that socialized medicine work? I don’t have the actual numbers, but aren’t the swine flu deaths in Mexico around 150+ vs. 1 in the US?

    And the one death in the U.S. was a Mexican child who was visiting relatives in TX, but caught the flu in Mexico and just happened to die here. So I don’t think that should even count as a U.S. death.

38. #238
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:47 pm, bansharia said:

    Chap,
    isnt that a hoot!!
    we need a eric cartman RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY sound

    Dear you aint my leader Michael Patrick Leahy,
    you are FIRED.
    love,B

39. #239
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:47 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Also the poor kid had other health issues, according to Texas reports.

40. #240
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, bansharia said:
    oh boy a simple yahoo search shows this guy to be a very active self horn tooter:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=michael+patrick+leahy&fr=yfp-t-305&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

    Oh, my gosh!! He is a blowhard, isn’t he? Somehow, we have to prevent him from hijacking the movement. It would make us look very very bad! We don’t need blowhard, self-appointed spokespeople!

41. #241
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:50 pm, bansharia said:

    Happy,
    yes wasn’t that a cute and cuddly euphamism “just visiting” so there you have it all illegals are “just visiting” now. hacks and slacks!!

42. #242
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, jangar said:

    And how does that socialized medicine work? I don’t have the actual numbers, but aren’t the swine flu deaths in Mexico around 150+ vs. 1 in the US?

    I digress…Obama will see this as further proof that America is mean and not compassionate to the rest of the world. We should be dying like all other nations, etc.

43. #243
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, sonofdy said:

    And how does that socialized medicine work?

    It works. Barely.

    Its basicaly the lowest bidder approach. EVERYTHING is the lowest possiable cost and quaility to save the government money.

44. #244
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, bansharia said:

    happy,
    I just sent him an email saying you don’t speak for me etc.
    http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/contact.php

45. #245
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:54 pm, sonofdy said:

    Which is why there is now a healthy private hospital system in New Zealand to back up the socialist state health system. A good job there includes health insurance so you can AVOID the state run system.

46. #246
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Oh, my gosh!! He is a blowhard, isn’t he? Somehow, we have to prevent him from hijacking the movement. It would make us look very very bad! We don’t need blowhard, self-appointed spokespeople!

    Now, THIS guy you CAN sue. He should be slapped with an injunction NOW, and sued.

47. #247
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, sonofdy said:

    http://www.southerncross.co.nz/

    BTW you still pay for the socialist system in your taxes.

48. #248
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, bansharia said:

    This is TOO creepy.
    This guy makes a website that links back to himself in chicago, has disclaimers, claims to speak for everyone who attends tea parties ETC ETC.
    cramming a wetblanket into his self promoting horn.

49. #249
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags,
    please expound on that.

50. #250
    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Its basicaly the lowest bidder approach. EVERYTHING is the lowest possiable cost and quaility to save the government money.

    It is worse than that. All the wrong incentives are in place. It becomes largely a monopoly system, with all the bad stuff that entails, but with the added feature that even a monopoly enterprise is more responsive to consumers than a govt. bureaucracy.

    I could go on…and on…and on…

51. #251
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags what?
    I meant please expound on this fool should be sued

52. #252
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, sonofdy said:

    rags, I know, I have lived it. My grandmother walked arround fr 2 years on a shattered hip because of it.

    The wait for emergency heart surgery in New Zealand last year? 45 days.

    Thats EMERGENCY surgery.

53. #253
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Rags,
    please expound on that.

    I don’t know the law of Illinois, but I would think they have causes of action for slander and libel that are not too unlike my jurisdiction. There are also causes for using people’s images or words without their permission, along privacy lines.

    There are Federal statutes that have parallels, and that would allow people in other states to file against him.

    An injunction is a court order that prohibits or commands conduct. In this case, he could be ordered by a court to immediately take down his web-site pending the outcome of a law suit.

    Some of the causes I mention, and virtually any I can think of from my jurisdiction, are weak on these facts. Sometimes that doesn’t matter in practical terms. If he can’t afford a defense, you win. That can be an example of a “good” frivolous law suit.

54. #254
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, bansharia said:

    OT,
    Son so they dont have hoverrounds in NZ I take it? called once to find out the cost of those dang things you could buy a car for less, but the taxpayers wouldn’t pick up the tab!
    Prayers to your Gram how the heck does someone walk on a shattered hip? my gosh

55. #255
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:09 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags,
    Are you one of them lawyers types? if so get on that you need a name to use, use mine.
    tossing you a cyber 2bits to put you on retainer
    All kidding aside everyone who went to a tea party that doesn’t want this guy to speak for them needs to email him and say as much:
    http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/contact.php

56. #256
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, happy2behere said:

    The strength of the tea party movement is in its lack of a specific leader and its appeal to regular tax-paying folks. Its different from a grass roots movement in that it does not come from ‘everyman’, which includes people on the dole and their enablers.

    Self-appointed leaders need not apply.

57. #257
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, bansharia said:
    happy,
    I just sent him an email saying you don’t speak for me etc.
    http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/contact.php

    I just wrote to him also and asked by what authority does he presume to speak for me? Let’s see if he answers.

58. #258
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Rags,
    Are you one of them lawyers types? if so get on that you need a name to use, use mine.
    tossing you a cyber 2bits to put you on retainer

    That’ll get you a cyber-suit…which sounds WAY cooler than it is…

    I’m not the guy to do this, but there are lots of others. The place is lousy with lawyers…

    No kidding, though, this is to be PREDICTED and FOUGHT.

59. #259
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, Ragspierre said:

    The legitimate TEA Party needs to put together a legal team anyhow. I’d volunteer to be a cog in that machine.

    It would have LOTS of uses, one of them to police this kind of exploitation.

60. #260
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, bansharia said:

    Happy,
    after further digging thru the yahoo search:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=michael+patrick+leahy&fr=yfp-t-305&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
    it seems he is involved with pajamas media pals with hugh hewitt etc.
    this is very bad news.
    I shall shut up for awhile have been repromanded for posting too much.

61. #261
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, sonofdy said:

    Prayers to your Gram how the heck does someone walk on a shattered hip? my gosh

    They pin it together enough so you can walk, sort of, then once your turn comes up they replace the hip. Here in the states they just replace the hip. The government doesn’t pay for the powered chairs unless you are crippled. Hobbling arround in pain doesn’t count.

62. #262
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, jangar said:

    save the government money

    Since when is the gubmint worried about where the money is coming from?

    Isn’t abortion one of Bella Pelosi’s recent suggestions to lower the cost?

63. #263
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I shall shut up for awhile have been repromanded for posting too much.

    I got one of those too! I wasn’t sure what it was. So MM doesn’t want us to monopolize the conversation? Ha!!

64. #264
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, bansharia said:

    well just called him.
    oddly when I asked him if he could tell me why is it he feels he is the national spokesman for tea party movement he got chilly and said to send him my contact information.
    made some silly excuse that he is about to start taping a show blah blah.
    This guy is no good and if the powers who be that run this blog don’t like me saying so be it.

65. #265
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, bansharia said:

    Happy,
    we are both rightfully steamed about this guy but he has jammie connections, who knows if we were trashing obambi would we get?

66. #266
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:39 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    And, Aloha, I’d have to cry foul over mixing numbers from one poll with another.

    The Presidential numbers are from the Gallup site Chap linked, the VP numbers I threw in are Pew Research.

67. #267
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, happyscrapper said:

    What the heck is jammie connections? And so what? He has no right to do this. I always liked Hugh Hewitt, but if he has something to do with this, he will hear about it…plenty!

68. #268
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:46 pm, John Deaux said:

    happy and ban,

    You guys are so in trouble!

    Seriously, can you blame us for being cautious? This guy better put up some serious credentials and make it public.

69. #269
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, bansharia said:

    happy,
    jammie connections as in pajama media that MM is involved with.
    I agree he has no right to do what he is doing. Yes I would email hugh and anyone else this guy name drops and say not ONE of you speak for everyone.
    as we said a few hours ago coordinate sure but check your ego at the door YOU do not DEFINE what this is about.
    As Happy2 said this is grassroots leaders not apply let alone annoint themselves…….

70. #270
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, bansharia said:

    John,
    we both have gotten warnings for posting too much lmao!! what a crock.
    I dont give a hoot what or who he says he is HE does not speak for everyone who showed up at tea parties and if this kind of crap is allowed tea parties are DOA period.

71. #271
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:54 pm, frontierguy said:

    “Those of you who are watching certain news channels on which I’m not very popular, and you see folks waving tea bags around, Obama said, ” I just want you to know that I don’t give a crap what these people think. I won and the people who voted for me have no clue what I am doing, hell, most of them could not tell you who their senators are. I’m partying every night, it’s my prize. I’m flying my plane around like a drunk frat boy, tea baggers are just jealous.” That about sums it up, what a sanctimonious a$$.

72. #272
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:57 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Aloha;

    I may have mis-read what you wrote. Apologies is so.

73. #273
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:57 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Apologies IF so. Boy…

74. #274
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:57 pm, jangar said:

    Michael Patrick Leahy

    Junior Troll, Obama National Civilian Army.

    They’re worried…too much handwriting on the wall.

75. #275
    On April 30th, 2009 at 5:58 pm, Laree said:

    This is a good video you will like it. This incorporates Lincoln Obama’s inspiration on so many levels.

    http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/04/100-millon-dollar-budget-cut-how-to.html

76. #276
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, jangar said:

    bansharia said:
    John,
    we both have gotten warnings for posting too much

    Economic hard times. Just another reason to hit the Bamster harder.

77. #277
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

    If we have self-appointed spokespeople for the Tea Party, then what happens when they say something wrong, or misrepresents our values, etc.? It could destroy us. The MSM would pick that up and run with it so fast! THAT is why we can’t allow someone with a big ego to presume to speak for us without our permission.

    I won’t say any more on the subject right now, but I seriously would like some feedback from Michelle and anyone else on these threads who might have some ideas on the subject.

78. #278
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:07 pm, bansharia said:

    jang,
    look at this blowhard crap:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090406/pl_usnw/tax_day_tea_party_planning_calls_broadcast_live_tonight_on_pjtv

79. #279
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, bansharia said:

    happy,
    I got mad when there was such a push to trash GOP by some, that did not sit right to me. It was as if in order to be credible tea party participant you had to trash the GOP to enter.
    Now we have a leader and a group of people who have decided there will be just 36 of them ( um there are 50 states no idea how they came up with that # ).
    Anyway yes MM and Doug as heposted this need to clarify one way or another do they back this guy/group?
    how about a lil transparencyyyyy

80. #280
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, happyscrapper said:

    From the article…”The Nationwide Tea Party Coalition, the grassroots organization sponsoring the April 15 Tax Day Tea Parties across the country, announced this morning that it will broadcast the group’s regular Monday conference call LIVE at 7 PM ET/4 PM PT, on Pajamas TV, the leading provider of conservative internet television programming. The live conference call this evening will be the debut of the new daily Pajamas TV program, “The Tea Party Coalition Show: Countdown to Tax Day.” Additionally, Pajamas TV announced that for each new subscriber from today until the end of April, PJTV will apply 100 percent of the first month’s subscription to a donation to the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition.

    This is insane! Now they say they SPONSERED THE TAX DAY TEA PARTIES??? NO ONE sponsered the tax day tea parties. Who do they think they are? This is serious. It may already be out of control and impossible to stop.

81. #281
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:16 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Bans;

    I read what from the site you posted.

    Now, be gentle…

    please explain what bothers you about what was there.

    Seriously, point out what you take exception to, please. Pretend I’m a slow kid…

82. #282
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm, happyscrapper said:

    If MM says this is o.k., then I will back off. But it sounds all wrong to me. This is not what we are about. This is getting too “professional” and “sponsored” to be a true grass roots movement of the people. Even having FOX News have such a big role made me uncomfortable, but we needed the publicity that the rest of the media wasn’t giving us. I was not happy with how huge Sean Hannity made it with guest stars, etc. Maybe down the road, it will grow big enough to have famous sponsors, etc. That might be the outcome and maybe we need the professional assistance. But not from someone who just steps in and assumes the role without anyone saying it was o.k.

83. #283
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    The Nationwide Tea Party Coalition, the grassroots organization sponsoring the April 15 Tax Day Tea Parties across the country

    There was a sponsor?

    What is going on?

84. #284
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:16 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Rags…do you think it is just fine for someone to up and appoint themselves spokesperson for a huge group of people without some sort of election or something? What is to stop someone who does that, who is not on our side or is not doing it in our best interests?

85. #285
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:29 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Scrappy,

    No, I don’t think that is OK. But I also don’t know the background here. I have to know that.

    There are some really good people…and I don’t know all of them by any means…who were behind this. It was not without some organization, and I don’t know who did it.

    I am very chary about people usurping this movement. On the other hand, I’m also concerned about eating our own.

    Again, it is predictable that people…the wrong people…will try to derail this thing.

    I just don’t know enough to know these are those kinds of people.

    Color me ignorant.

86. #286
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, bansharia said:

    Happy,
    I don’t care if MM backs this guy or not I wont back off this is WRONG.
    Rags,
    call me lazy but if you can’t see what is wrong I can’t splain it slow or fast

87. #287
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:36 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags,
    eating our own? what the
    lets go back to square one:
    This blowhard Michael Patrick Leahy said as the LEADER of the tea party movement will meet with obambi and define what WE feel on the issue of social security and healthcare.

88. #288
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:42 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Again, it is predictable that people…the wrong people…will try to derail this thing.

    I just don’t know enough to know these are those kinds of people.

    Rags…fair enough. But this just seems wrong. I need to know where MM stands on this. And where these folks came from. I was under the distinct impression that we were not sponsored by anyone and had no specific spokesperson. If that is wrong, why didn’t I know about it? I am very informed and up on the latest. So I should have heard about this before today!

89. #289
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:43 pm, Speakup said:

    bansharia: Speak,
    well obambi has a gift or so he says

    When MussObamalini talks about giving gifts, he puts a ribbon on something of yours and gives it to himself.

    Hope your wallet isn’t allergic to gift wrap.

90. #290
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:49 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:43 pm, Speakup said:
    Hope your wallet isn’t allergic to gift wrap.

    I hope my wallet gives them crotch-rot and a raging case of the red a$$.

91. #291
    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:50 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Scrappy,

    I only know what filters through here.

    I am not a mover/shaker type, and not much of a joiner.

    I heard various TEA chairpersons around this area on radio. I dunno how they got to be chairpersons, but SOMEBODY had to obtain permits, arrange for PAs and other basic organizational stuff.

    I can only reason that there were people at different levels putting this thing together.

92. #292
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:01 pm, bansharia said:

    Speak,
    did you miss this nugget about obambi’s gift:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_reid_obama

93. #293
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:02 pm, Marie said:

    Everything seems to be a crisis with Obama….

    Is this the BOY that called wolf too often??

94. #294
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, bansharia said:

    Rags,
    you are missing the point. There were thousands of people involved in organizing the tea parties and these few yahoos and this one guy michael patrick leahy have appointed themselves leaders. You seem to have had an about face over the last few hours of discussing this.

95. #295
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:15 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Bans;

    Who…if anyone…organized the organizers that you see as legit…?

    I read the material on the link you provided. I just didn’t see anything nefarious about what they were doing/saying…

    IF they were the movers behind the thing.

    On the other hand, if you have some self-promoters trying to shang-hi this thing, that will become apparent with more exposition. I AVIDLY support taking those people off at the knees.

    It is part of my personality and training to be careful about turning my guns on people in the absence of good data. That goes with the potential I have to bring hellfire into the lives of people. I have potential clients I won’t sue people for, and for the same reasons. I hope you wouldn’t want it any other way.

96. #296
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:20 pm, jangar said:

    This blowhard Michael Patrick Leahy said as the LEADER of the tea party movement will meet with obambi and define what WE feel on the issue of social security and healthcare.

    Two things wrong here:

    1. He didn’t ask us our opinion…

    2. He’s from Chicago (so I’m gun-shy…live with it!).

97. #297
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:21 pm, happyscrapper said:

    The National Leadership Team of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition today accepted President Obama`s invitation “to have a serious conversation about how we are going to cut our health care costs down over the long term, how we are going to stabilize Social Security.”

    The invitation was extended by the President at a Town Hall Meeting held in Arnold, Missouri today. Michael Patrick Leahy, a member of the National Leadership Team of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition, said “We want to broaden the scope to address the President`s runaway march to socialist-statism, and the rampant across the board irresponsible spending he is promoting with his $787 Billion Stimulus Plan and his $1 Trillion Annual Deficit, his takeover of General Motors, Chrysler and the Banks.”

    Rags…this is what has us upset. This self-appointed spokesperson has accepted the role and is willing to go and meet with Obama and debate him, in our name! Is that right? NO. I understand that some people who organized the tea parties are now very active and are speaking for them…that is bound to happen. We need people like that who will pick up the ball and run with it. But when one person sets himself up as THE one, it is wrong.

98. #298
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:22 pm, jangar said:

    Actually, there are three issues:

    This blowhard Michael Patrick Leahy said as the LEADER of the tea party movement will meet with obambi and define what WE feel on the issue of social security and healthcare.

    There are a WHOLE LOT MORE ISSUES than these two alone, Jack!

99. #299
    On April 30th, 2009 at 7:22 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On April 30th, 2009 at 6:50 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Scrappy,

    I only know what filters through here.

    I am not a mover/shaker type, and not much of a joiner.

    I heard various TEA chairpersons around this area on radio. I dunno how they got to be chairpersons, but SOMEBODY had to obtain permits, arrange for PAs and other basic organizational stuff.

    I can only reason that there were people at different levels putting this thing together.

    You can reason wrong. This isn’t like an immigration rally – there aren’t any high paid lobbyists behind the scenes.

    Dick Armey’s group took over one Tea Party pretty easily because they have deep pockets, but the original organizers were happy to have the help.

    Fox News picked one to broadcast from, but the location wasn’t selected at their request.

    It’s not hard to get permits, and it tends to be pretty inexpensive too.

    Absolutely nothing needed to be done on a national level, and other than the Facebook group selecting the date, nothing was.

100. #300
     On April 30th, 2009 at 7:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

     Two things wrong here:

     1. He didn’t ask us our opinion…

     2. He’s from Chicago (so I’m gun-shy…live with it!).

     Does that mean you are afraid to complain because he might be a Chicago thug? You can’t mean that. Can you?