What George Will missed: The decrepit state of the California GOP

By Michelle Malkin  •  May 4, 2009 02:21 PM

George Will’s latest column on the sagging economy of California and the upcoming slate of massive tax-hike initiatives on the ballot only scratches the surface of what’s rotten in the formerly Golden State.

The state GOP is a basket case. The party establishment epitomizes everything that is wrong with the Republican Party nationally: Cronyism, arrogance, waste, and leadership out of touch with its base.

I reported on how grass-roots conservatives greeted California GOP chairman Ron Nehring with boos and heckles of “Go Home!” and “Throw Them Out!” at the Sacramento Tea Party on April 15. Tea Party organizer Mark Meckler publicly called out Nehring for the party’s waffling on the tax propositions. Nehring attempted to coopt the Tea Party movement for the GOP’s purposes. The tax revolters were having none of it. Here’s the vid:

The party finally got a clue and voted to oppose the initiatives — but only after dumping $650,000 into Gov. Arnold Schwarzengger’s coffers to crusade for the proposals, namely Prop. 1A — the $16 billion in “temporary tax hikes” disguised as a spending cap measure.

Yeah, you read that right. They forked over $650,000 in party money to help Schwarzengger pass $16 billion in tax hikes.

You know what that brand is? FAIL.

Grass-roots activists have watched state GOP chairman Ron Nehring drive the party into the ground — and spend their money doing it. Nehring is a protege of open-borders, credibility-undermining Grover Norquist. It was under Nehring’s watch that the California GOP hired Norquist’s friend, Michael Kamburowski, to serve as the California Republican Party’s chief operating officer in charge of the multimillion-dollar budget of the nation’s largest state Republican Party — despite being here illegally with no work visa or valid work permit.

The episode became the butt of late-night jokes, but neither Nehring nor Norquist suffered any consequences.

How can the state GOP call for fiscal restraint when its chairman cannot adopt it himself? GOP sources compiled the following expense reports on Nehring’s activities — and mind you, this is just a partial record of his frequent trips to D.C., visits to fancy hotels, and extravagant phone bills and rental car expenses. If he had something to show for it all, maybe it would be worth it. But what has he done? Flushed party dues down the toilet and the state GOP’s credibility and electoral prospects along with it:

RON NEHRING EXPENSES (PARTIAL LISTING ONLY)
JANUARY 2009
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 2471.63
Federal share = 519.04
Non-Federal share = 1952.59
Event Year-To-Date = 122162.92

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: Transaction Fees/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 35.90
Federal share = 7.54
Non-Federal share = 28.36
Event Year-To-Date = 35.90
This is a Memo Memo Description: Transaction Fees/Nehring A 01/09

Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 422.52
Federal share = 88.73
Non-Federal share = 333.79
Event Year-To-Date = 422.52
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental/Nehring A 01/09

Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 1060.42
Federal share = 222.69
Non-Federal share = 837.73
Event Year-To-Date = 1060.42
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/Nehring A 01/09

Payee: Verizon Wireless
PO Box 79005
City Of Industry, CA 91716
Purpose of Disbursement: Telephone/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 580.94
Federal share = 122.00
Non-Federal share = 458.94
Event Year-To-Date = 580.94
This is a Memo Memo Description: Telephone/Nehring A 01/09

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 02/09/2009
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 2031.72
Federal share = 426.66
Non-Federal share = 1605.06
Event Year-To-Date = 240682.45

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 1755.60
Federal share = 368.68
Non-Federal share = 1386.92
Event Year-To-Date = 540548.71

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: Transaction Fees-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 64.90
Federal share = 13.63
Non-Federal share = 51.27
Event Year-To-Date = 64.90
This is a Memo Memo Description: Transaction Fees-Nehring Amex 02/09

Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 216.04
Federal share = 45.37
Non-Federal share = 170.67
Event Year-To-Date = 216.04
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental-Nehring Amex 02/09

Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 312.89
Federal share = 65.71
Non-Federal share = 247.18
Event Year-To-Date = 312.89
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09

Payee: Hyatt Regency WASHINGTON
400 New Jersey Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20001
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 686.99
Federal share = 144.27
Non-Federal share = 542.72
Event Year-To-Date = 686.99
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09

Payee: Constant Contact
1601 Trapelo Rd.
Waltham, MA 02451
Purpose of Disbursement: Software-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 155.00
Federal share = 32.55
Non-Federal share = 122.45
Event Year-To-Date = 155.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Software-Nehring Amex 02/09

Payee: Miltons Restaurant
2660 Via De La Valle
Del Mar, CA 92014
Purpose of Disbursement: Meals-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 112.99
Federal share = 23.73
Non-Federal share = 89.26
Event Year-To-Date = 112.99
This is a Memo Memo Description: Meals-Nehring Amex 02/09

2008 EXPENSES
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 5527.98

Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1963.99
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental/Nehring A 12/08
(Source notes: “Note this is AFTER the election. Ron must have been campaigning for re-election. Wait, then that would mean he charged his re-election expenses to the CRP.)

Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 132.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring A 12/08
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Payee: Network Solutions
487 E. Middlefield Rd
Mountain View, CA 94043

Purpose of Disbursement: Domain Registration/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 74.97
This is a Memo Memo Description: Domain Registration/Nehring A 12/08
(Source asks: “Other than the California Republican Party website what other domain
names should the CRP be paying for?”)

Payee: Hyatt Regency Hotel
PO Box 31001
Pasadena, CA 911104553
Amount Disbursed = 1536.90
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/Nehring A 12/08

—————-

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/05/2008
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 1133.58
POINTS.
Payee: Hyatt Regency WASHINGTON
400 New Jersey Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20001

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/05/2008
Amount Disbursed = 526.77
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/Nehring A 12/08

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1024.89
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 11/21/2008
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 1643.06
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt 10/08-Nehring
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 6008.59
MAJOR POINTS.
Payee: Sheraton Grand
1230 J Street
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex 10/08
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1904.86
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex 10/08

Payee: Sony Online
155 Tice Blvd
Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677

Purpose of Disbursement: Lap Top-Nehring Amex 10/08
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2484.23
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lap Top-Nehring Amex 10/08
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 10/10/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1370.61
Payee: Hyatt Indian Wells
44600 Indian Wells LAne
Indian Wells, CA 92210

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 08/08
Date of Event = 09/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2379.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 08/08

Payee: LA Fitness
7021 Hollywood Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90028
Purpose of Disbursement: Membership Fees/Nehring 08/08
Date of Event = 09/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 29.99

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 09/12/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1502.64
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 08/08/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1702.48
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 07/08
Date of Event = 08/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2976.02
Payee: Hilton Hotels
755 Crossover Lane
Memphis, TN 38117

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/ Nehring 07/08
Date of Event = 08/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 279.36
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/ Nehring 07/08

Payee: Lindbergh Parking Inc.
3705 N Harbor Dr.
San Diego Airport
San Diego, CA 92101

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 07/08
Date of Event = 08/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 186.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 07/08

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1024.89
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 11/21/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1643.06
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 3238.96
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1283.66
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08

Payee: Venetian HotelCasino
3355 Las Vegas Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89109

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging- Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 153.81
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging- Nehring 04/08

Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 240.81
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 5777.29
Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1268.92
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental/Nehring 04/08

Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 2046.46
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08

Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 150.08
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08

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Payee: Lindbergh Parking Inc.
3705 N Harbor Dr.
San Diego Airport
San Diego, CA 92101

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 216.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08

—————-

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 05/08
Date of Event = 06/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1357.80
Payee: Lindbergh Parking Inc.
3705 N Harbor Dr.
San Diego Airport
San Diego, CA 92101

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 05/08
Date of Event = 06/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 186.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 05/08

—————-

Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2772.05
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1112.72
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 03/08
Payee: Network Solutions
487 E. Middlefield Rd
Mountain View, CA 94043

Purpose of Disbursement: Domain Registration/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 109.96
This is a Memo Memo Description: Domain Registration/Nehring 03/08

Payee: Plaxo
203 Ravendale Drive
Mountain View, CA 94043

Purpose of Disbursement: Social Network/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 49.95
This is a Memo Memo Description: Social Network/Nehring 03/08

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Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 01/31/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1284.19
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096

Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos/AMEX Nehring 0208
Date of Event = 02/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 4034.36
Payee: Hilton Washington
1001 16th St
Washington, DC 20036

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging/AMEX Nehring 0208
Date of Event = 02/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1019.04
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/AMEX Nehring 0208

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Mileage
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1376.09
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb.CC Pmt-See Memos/Nehring Amex
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 5269.64
Payee: Verizon Wireless
PO Box 79005
City Of Industry, CA 91716

Purpose of Disbursement: Telephone-Nehring Amex
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1117.05
This is a Memo Memo Description: Telephone-Nehring Amex

Payee: Double Tree
34402 PCH
Dana Point, CA 92629

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 987.33
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 11/08/2007
Amount Disbursed = 2068.19
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 10/19/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1768.96

Payee: Hyatt Hotels & Resorts
1209 L St
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 10/19/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1165.42
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 09/13/2007
Amount Disbursed = 3991.77
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 09/13/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1053.45
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A

Payee: Verizon Wireless
PO Box 79005
City Of Industry, CA 91716

Purpose of Disbursement: Telephone- Nehring A
Date of Event = 09/13/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1367.39
This is a Memo Memo Description: Telephone- Nehring A

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expense – Nehring B
Date of Event = 09/14/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1761.21
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 08/08/2007
Amount Disbursed = 2952.01
Payee: Hyatt Hotels & Resorts
1209 L St
Sacramento, CA 95814

Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 08/08/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1376.85
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 06/04/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1642.36
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 06/04/2007
Amount Disbursed = 168.23
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring A

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expense – Nehring B
Date of Event = 06/25/2007
Amount Disbursed = 3475.01

Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental- Nehring B
Date of Event = 06/25/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1052.12
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental- Nehring B
Payee: Hyatt Hotels & Resorts
1209 L St
Sacramento, CA 95814
Amount Disbursed = 1088.16
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring B
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 05/03/2007
Amount Disbursed = 3880.17
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 05/03/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1764.91
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A

Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021

Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/01/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1720.70
Payee: Hyatt Regency WASHINGTON
400 New Jersey Ave NW
Washington, DC 20001
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/01/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1156.35
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring A

Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005

Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/01/2007
Amount Disbursed = 265.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring B
Date of Event = 03/23/2007
Amount Disbursed = 2330.42
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring B
Date of Event = 03/23/2007
Amount Disbursed = 265.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring B
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/23/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1115.28
This is a Memo Memo Description:Hotel Lodging-Nehring A

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    On May 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm, chapoutier said:

    Name one pro-life Democrat in a national leadership position? Can’t do it, can you.

    I have no idea what you mean by “national leadership position”, but according to lifenews.com there are about 30-35 pro-life Democrats in Congress (numbers differ on a few sites I looked at). I wonder how that would compare to pro-choice Republicans.

  2. #694696
    On May 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Well, Chappy, most people with a clue would know that “national leadership position” would include the House and Senate leadership structure, DNC, and executive branh positions.

    Maybe you’ll learn that by the time you finish your internship in Washington, DC…

    And of course there are many, many pro-abortion Republicans. But, you would have to know how to google something to figure that out.

    On May 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm, chapoutier said:

    Name one pro-life Democrat in a national leadership position? Can’t do it, can you.

    I have no idea what you mean by “national leadership position”, but according to lifenews.com there are about 30-35 pro-life Democrats in Congress (numbers differ on a few sites I looked at). I wonder how that would compare to pro-choice Republicans.

  3. #694700
    On May 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    Well, Chappy, most people with a clue would know that “national leadership position” would include the House and Senate leadership structure, DNC, and executive branh positions.

    Sorry that definition was not so entirely evident to others as it was in your own little head. I suspect that is true of many of the things you think.

    And of course I googled for Republican pro choicers. And they name some specific names. However, nowhere in the time I took to look did I find something that summarized just how many there were in Congress, as I was able to find with the Dem pro-lifers. If you were able to find this number be a dear and link to it.

    In conclusion, don’t be a tool.

  4. #694716
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Strangely only you seem to not know the definition. Of course, ZA will chime in any minute and claim he didn’t know that either and then defend your right to be a tool.

    Of course, I acknowledge your right to be a tool but question why you feel the need to exercise it so frequently…

  5. #694722
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, chapoutier said:

    Strangely only you seem to not know the definition.

    Seeing as we have a sample size of exactly me and you of people that chimed in on it before you gave me your WarEagle approved definition of what consitutes an national Democratic leader, you will have to for thinking you an idiot.

  6. #694723
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, chapoutier said:

    Excuse me. “forgive me” for thinking you are an idiot.

  7. #694732
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:17 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Chappy,

    I forgive you for thinking me an idiot. I will even forgive you for being an idiot!

  8. #694753
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:31 pm, edelweiss said:

    I live in suburban Maryland and I can tell you that the GOP is dead :) both in Northern Virginia (where I was born) and Maryland. Our state right now has only a single GOP congressman and 7 Democrats. The Republican Party is suffering :) a serious shrinkage problem and the switch of hero Senator Specter to the Democratic Party is part of a trend that has obliterated GOP representation in the mid-Atlantic and up the East Coast til Québec. In these 10 states, there are just 10 GOP congressmen for a total of ~ 70 seats. With GOP becoming a shrinking entity, most Americans agree that this country is finally heading in the right direction. In close future we will have more powerful left leaning political parties (Social Democratic / Green) just like the German SPD / Die Grünen, the French PS / Les Verts and the Spanish PSOE / Los Verdes).

  9. #694761
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    OT:

    – Vice President Joe Biden challenged Israel to back a two-state peace agreement with the Palestinians and urged the Jewish state’s new leadership to demonstrate its commitment to such a solution.

    Tell me again why Israel has to be the one?

  10. #694780
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Ummmmmmmm…….

    While I didnt go line by line through the whole thing….

    is it bad that I find nothing wrong with the expenses listed? I actually find them cheaper than MY normal business expenses.

    (but then again I am in the private not public sector)

    I simply refer to myself as a technical whore. So dont judge. Hate, but dont judge.

    (Oh the stress… I think I’ll head over to the hot tub to work on my tan in a few minutes…)

  11. #694798
    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    RabbidSquirrel said: …I actually find them cheaper than MY normal business expenses….

    Hertz? $1052.12? For how long? A limo? Geesh, I rented a nice 2009 Malibu for 5 days from Payless, put over 500 miles on it and paid a whopping $123.00

    Looks like those who contribute to the CA GOP are a bunch of suckers.

  12. #694824
    On May 5th, 2009 at 3:15 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    DD,

    Hey, it takes a LOT of money to figure out how to tax everyone into oblivion!

    And I am NOT going to argue that the California GOP isn’t populated with a bunch of suckers…

    On May 5th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Looks like those who contribute to the CA GOP are a bunch of suckers.

  13. #694899
    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, orlandocajun said:

    What’s the problem in Mexifornia? I thought that illegal aliens were enriching their society. Every liberal run government in this country is corrupt and going bankrupt. They also can brag on having the highest crime rates in the country. Next up, is the Federal Government. Bankruptcy is inevitable.

    Am I the only one who sees a pattern here?

  14. #694912
    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm, sims said:

    at 4:04 orlandocajun said:…Every liberal run government…

    It’s hard to tell the difference these days between someone who claims to be a Republican and someone who is a liberal. They all seem to run their district, city, state, etc with a lack of conservative principles and as if they are free to spend other peoples’ money as they see fit and then come back whinging for more.
    Yes, bankruptcy is inevitable and there is a pattern but no one who matters is paying attention.

  15. #694914
    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    OrlandoCajun,

    You are not the only one to see the pattern. I suspect the government may not technically go bankrupt but rather choose to monetize the debt and engage in hyperinflation instead.

    But you appear to be spot on on the other issues.

    Thank goodness we have little Miss EuroSocialist to tell us how wonderful everything will be. I hope she has her full summer ensemble of hijabs, burqas ready for “Sharia Law Day”…

  16. #694926
    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, ScottyDog said:

    When are republicans going to realize that our party has been taken over from within by Rockefeller Elitists. The mission of these people is to destroy the conservative movement and the RNC.

    People like John McCain,Lyndsey Graham, Mel Martinez,Arlen Specter were instrumental in losing the 2008 election by alienating conservatives with their politically correct positions on Immigration, Gay Rights and Abortion to name a few.

    Real conservative voters have no where to go other than third parties which have no chance in hell of winning an election under the current system.

    We need to throw all the liberal leadership out of the party including their minions if we ever want to start winning elections again.

    Arnold Schwarzengger was never a conservative but another con artist that fooled people into voting him into office with Presidential aspirations.
    Rush Limbaugh tried to warn California voters before he ran for office but as usual the CA RNC rammed him down our throats just like they did with McCain.

    McCain was not the choice of conservatives but the elite running the party.

    Until we purge the RNC of liberals we will never win another election.

  17. #694933
    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    ScottyDog,

    I agree with your summary of the problem but THEY ARE THE PARTY AND WE CAN’T PURGE THEM. THEY HAVE ALREADY PURGED US!!!! I DON’T SEE HOW ANYONE CAN CLAIM OTHERWISE.

    This is one of the laughable ironies about Specter’s defection! He claims the GOP is “too far right” when in fact the GOP is racing the Democrats to the left!

    The Rockefeller Republicans OWN the party apparatus and I don’t think they are going to invite a bunch of red-neck conservatives in to shape things to our liking.

    It has never been more true. I didn’t leave the GOP, the GOP left me.

  18. #694966
    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On May 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    What bothers me most is watching America being torn apart by a foreigner who thinks he has a mandate to turn the USA into a communist country.

    What we are witnessing is a coup de ta by a bunch of criminals in the Congress and executive branch of Government.

    The unconstitutional nationalization of the auto industry by Barry Soetoro has to be illegal and yet no one to date has filed lawsuits against the executive branch for his criminal acts.

    There is no one standing up for the Constitution and the rule of law.

    The only people speaking out are people like Rush Limbaugh and MM. Our leaders in the republican party are silent.

    I never thought the USA would be governed like a third rate banana republic.

  19. #694972
    On May 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    ScottyDog,

    I have said it many, many times. There has already been a revolution and the federal government has unconstitutionally usurped powers they do not lawfully posses. We have gone from “Lex Rex” to “Rex Lex” in just a few short years. Bush accelerated the process and Obama shows every intention of continuing as quickly as possible.

    I wonder if there will be lawsuits over the nationalization of the auto manufacturers. Clearly the stock or bond holders have been unlawfully deprived of their rightful claims on assets and those assets will be assigned to the unions and other claimants with lessor standing. But we all know that the federal judiciary has already been packed with anti free market tyrants. The most likely outcome of such legal actions is not favorable.

    I wonder what it will take for America to reject these unconstitutional actions and seek to remedy the problem of a federal government run amok.

  20. #694975
    On May 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, emjem24 said:

    edelweiss said:
    I live in suburban Maryland and I can tell you that the GOP is dead both in Northern Virginia (where I was born) and Maryland. Our state right now has only a single GOP congressman and 7 Democrats. The Republican Party is suffering a serious shrinkage problem and the switch of hero Senator Specter to the Democratic Party is part of a trend that has obliterated GOP representation in the mid-Atlantic and up the East Coast til Québec. In these 10 states, there are just 10 GOP congressmen for a total of ~ 70 seats. With GOP becoming a shrinking entity, most Americans agree that this country is finally heading in the right direction. In close future we will have more powerful left leaning political parties (Social Democratic / Green) just like the German SPD / Die Grünen, the French PS / Les Verts and the Spanish PSOE / Los Verdes).

    How would you know? Do you even know the difference between what’s GOP and a Dem? Uh…. yeahhhhh……

    Yeah, let’s be like Europe. You’d know all about that since you’ve spent most of your life overseas with Mummy and Daddy. Yes, let’s be like Socialist Spain (and I spent some time there when it was run by the Conservative party) and the Socialists and their compadres have put the Spanish economy in the dumpster at an alarming 17% unemployment rate. Why is that?

    You obviously don’t get how unique America is and would like it to sell all its founding principles down the toilet in favor of changing demographics and what is so obviously working in Europe (which is what exactly?).

    Ummmm, princess, you’re living in Maryland to attend med school on the French citizens’ dime and have demonstrated how little allegiance you actually have for this country. What makes you an American citizen? Because you were born here and think you’re entitled to other people’s money? Uhh… there’s more to it than that.

  21. #694989
    On May 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, emjem24 said:

    chapoutier said:
    I have no idea what you mean by “national leadership position”, but according to lifenews.com there are about 30-35 pro-life Democrats in Congress (numbers differ on a few sites I looked at). I wonder how that would compare to pro-choice Republicans.

    Chaps, could you be a dear and tell me how many of these “pro-life” Dems in Congress actually have a “pro-life” record? How many are posing as “pro-lifers” only to chicken out and fold to party pressure?

    It seems that you’re ascribing an exception that should also exist in the GOP which is the existence of “pro-choice” Republicans. If this is the case, how many “pro-choice” Republicans voted WITH the party on “pro-life” initiaties? I’m just curious.

    If you’re including Sen. Casey on that list of “pro-life” Dems, I’d strike him off your list because he’s a “pro-lifer” in name only. He’s voted with his party at least on one pro-choice legislation that I know of.

    I snicker every time I hear how Casey is some moderate Dem in “pro-life” clothing. He’s a convenient “pro-lifer” when he needs to win an election until he has to go back to the Senate and cave on social issues he’s supposedly for or against.

  22. #694994
    On May 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, chapoutier said:

    emjem,

    I don’t include anyone specifically on that list. I am purely going by what lifenews.com, which doesn’t appear to be a partisan site to me, says.

    I would concede that there are probably at least a few that are PLINOs.

  23. #694998
    On May 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    No, No, No! Don’t disturb Chappy with facts! There must have been OODLES of Pro-life democrats addressing the DNC over the past four years. Uh, there was Al Gore, no, not really pro-life was he? Then there was Bill “safe, legal and rare” Clinton, no, not him either. Zell Miller! Oh, that’s right he addressed the GOP convention because the Dems ran him out of the party.

    There has GOT to be ONE sonewhere. Ask Lil Swiss Miss…

  24. #695018
    On May 5th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    The GOP has become an impediment to conservatives. They are actively blocking for the socialists.

  25. #695100
    On May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm, ScottyDog said:

    Virginia Patriot said:

    The GOP has become an impediment to conservatives. They are actively blocking for the socialists.

    Sad but true

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