What George Will missed: The decrepit state of the California GOP
George Will’s latest column on the sagging economy of California and the upcoming slate of massive tax-hike initiatives on the ballot only scratches the surface of what’s rotten in the formerly Golden State.
The state GOP is a basket case. The party establishment epitomizes everything that is wrong with the Republican Party nationally: Cronyism, arrogance, waste, and leadership out of touch with its base.
I reported on how grass-roots conservatives greeted California GOP chairman Ron Nehring with boos and heckles of “Go Home!” and “Throw Them Out!” at the Sacramento Tea Party on April 15. Tea Party organizer Mark Meckler publicly called out Nehring for the party’s waffling on the tax propositions. Nehring attempted to coopt the Tea Party movement for the GOP’s purposes. The tax revolters were having none of it. Here’s the vid:
The party finally got a clue and voted to oppose the initiatives — but only after dumping $650,000 into Gov. Arnold Schwarzengger’s coffers to crusade for the proposals, namely Prop. 1A — the $16 billion in “temporary tax hikes” disguised as a spending cap measure.
Yeah, you read that right. They forked over $650,000 in party money to help Schwarzengger pass $16 billion in tax hikes.
You know what that brand is? FAIL.
Grass-roots activists have watched state GOP chairman Ron Nehring drive the party into the ground — and spend their money doing it. Nehring is a protege of open-borders, credibility-undermining Grover Norquist. It was under Nehring’s watch that the California GOP hired Norquist’s friend, Michael Kamburowski, to serve as the California Republican Party’s chief operating officer in charge of the multimillion-dollar budget of the nation’s largest state Republican Party — despite being here illegally with no work visa or valid work permit.
The episode became the butt of late-night jokes, but neither Nehring nor Norquist suffered any consequences.
How can the state GOP call for fiscal restraint when its chairman cannot adopt it himself? GOP sources compiled the following expense reports on Nehring’s activities — and mind you, this is just a partial record of his frequent trips to D.C., visits to fancy hotels, and extravagant phone bills and rental car expenses. If he had something to show for it all, maybe it would be worth it. But what has he done? Flushed party dues down the toilet and the state GOP’s credibility and electoral prospects along with it:
RON NEHRING EXPENSES (PARTIAL LISTING ONLY)
JANUARY 2009
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 2471.63
Federal share = 519.04
Non-Federal share = 1952.59
Event Year-To-Date = 122162.92
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: Transaction Fees/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 35.90
Federal share = 7.54
Non-Federal share = 28.36
Event Year-To-Date = 35.90
This is a Memo Memo Description: Transaction Fees/Nehring A 01/09
Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 422.52
Federal share = 88.73
Non-Federal share = 333.79
Event Year-To-Date = 422.52
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental/Nehring A 01/09
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 1060.42
Federal share = 222.69
Non-Federal share = 837.73
Event Year-To-Date = 1060.42
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/Nehring A 01/09
Payee: Verizon Wireless
PO Box 79005
City Of Industry, CA 91716
Purpose of Disbursement: Telephone/Nehring A 01/09
Date of Event = 01/28/2009
Amount Disbursed = 580.94
Federal share = 122.00
Non-Federal share = 458.94
Event Year-To-Date = 580.94
This is a Memo Memo Description: Telephone/Nehring A 01/09
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 02/09/2009
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 2031.72
Federal share = 426.66
Non-Federal share = 1605.06
Event Year-To-Date = 240682.45
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 1755.60
Federal share = 368.68
Non-Federal share = 1386.92
Event Year-To-Date = 540548.71
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: Transaction Fees-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 64.90
Federal share = 13.63
Non-Federal share = 51.27
Event Year-To-Date = 64.90
This is a Memo Memo Description: Transaction Fees-Nehring Amex 02/09
Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 216.04
Federal share = 45.37
Non-Federal share = 170.67
Event Year-To-Date = 216.04
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental-Nehring Amex 02/09
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 312.89
Federal share = 65.71
Non-Federal share = 247.18
Event Year-To-Date = 312.89
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09
Payee: Hyatt Regency WASHINGTON
400 New Jersey Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20001
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 686.99
Federal share = 144.27
Non-Federal share = 542.72
Event Year-To-Date = 686.99
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex 02/09
Payee: Constant Contact
1601 Trapelo Rd.
Waltham, MA 02451
Purpose of Disbursement: Software-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 155.00
Federal share = 32.55
Non-Federal share = 122.45
Event Year-To-Date = 155.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Software-Nehring Amex 02/09
Payee: Miltons Restaurant
2660 Via De La Valle
Del Mar, CA 92014
Purpose of Disbursement: Meals-Nehring Amex 02/09
Date of Event = 02/27/2009
Amount Disbursed = 112.99
Federal share = 23.73
Non-Federal share = 89.26
Event Year-To-Date = 112.99
This is a Memo Memo Description: Meals-Nehring Amex 02/09
2008 EXPENSES
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 5527.98
Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1963.99
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental/Nehring A 12/08
(Source notes: “Note this is AFTER the election. Ron must have been campaigning for re-election. Wait, then that would mean he charged his re-election expenses to the CRP.)
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 132.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring A 12/08
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Payee: Network Solutions
487 E. Middlefield Rd
Mountain View, CA 94043
Purpose of Disbursement: Domain Registration/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 74.97
This is a Memo Memo Description: Domain Registration/Nehring A 12/08
(Source asks: “Other than the California Republican Party website what other domain
names should the CRP be paying for?”)
Payee: Hyatt Regency Hotel
PO Box 31001
Pasadena, CA 911104553
Amount Disbursed = 1536.90
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/Nehring A 12/08
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Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/05/2008
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 1133.58
POINTS.
Payee: Hyatt Regency WASHINGTON
400 New Jersey Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20001
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging/Nehring A 12/08
Date of Event = 12/05/2008
Amount Disbursed = 526.77
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/Nehring A 12/08
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1024.89
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 11/21/2008
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 1643.06
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt 10/08-Nehring
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 6008.59
MAJOR POINTS.
Payee: Sheraton Grand
1230 J Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex 10/08
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1904.86
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex 10/08
Payee: Sony Online
155 Tice Blvd
Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
Purpose of Disbursement: Lap Top-Nehring Amex 10/08
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2484.23
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lap Top-Nehring Amex 10/08
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 10/10/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1370.61
Payee: Hyatt Indian Wells
44600 Indian Wells LAne
Indian Wells, CA 92210
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 08/08
Date of Event = 09/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2379.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 08/08
Payee: LA Fitness
7021 Hollywood Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90028
Purpose of Disbursement: Membership Fees/Nehring 08/08
Date of Event = 09/19/2008
Amount Disbursed = 29.99
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 09/12/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1502.64
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 08/08/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1702.48
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 07/08
Date of Event = 08/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2976.02
Payee: Hilton Hotels
755 Crossover Lane
Memphis, TN 38117
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/ Nehring 07/08
Date of Event = 08/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 279.36
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/ Nehring 07/08
Payee: Lindbergh Parking Inc.
3705 N Harbor Dr.
San Diego Airport
San Diego, CA 92101
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 07/08
Date of Event = 08/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 186.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 07/08
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 10/24/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1024.89
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reim. Mileage and Per Diem
Date of Event = 11/21/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1643.06
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 3238.96
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1283.66
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Payee: Venetian HotelCasino
3355 Las Vegas Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89109
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging- Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 153.81
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging- Nehring 04/08
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/06/2008
Amount Disbursed = 240.81
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 5777.29
Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1268.92
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental/Nehring 04/08
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Allocated Activity or Event:
Amount Disbursed = 2046.46
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 150.08
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08
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Payee: Lindbergh Parking Inc.
3705 N Harbor Dr.
San Diego Airport
San Diego, CA 92101
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 04/08
Date of Event = 05/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 216.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 04/08
—————-
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos-Nehring 05/08
Date of Event = 06/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1357.80
Payee: Lindbergh Parking Inc.
3705 N Harbor Dr.
San Diego Airport
San Diego, CA 92101
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 05/08
Date of Event = 06/30/2008
Amount Disbursed = 186.00
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 05/08
—————-
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 2772.05
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Travel/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1112.72
This is a Memo Memo Description: Travel/Nehring 03/08
Payee: Network Solutions
487 E. Middlefield Rd
Mountain View, CA 94043
Purpose of Disbursement: Domain Registration/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 109.96
This is a Memo Memo Description: Domain Registration/Nehring 03/08
Payee: Plaxo
203 Ravendale Drive
Mountain View, CA 94043
Purpose of Disbursement: Social Network/Nehring 03/08
Date of Event = 04/01/2008
Amount Disbursed = 49.95
This is a Memo Memo Description: Social Network/Nehring 03/08
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Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 01/31/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1284.19
Payee: American Express
Box 0001
Los Angeles, CA 90096
Purpose of Disbursement: CC pmt see memos/AMEX Nehring 0208
Date of Event = 02/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 4034.36
Payee: Hilton Washington
1001 16th St
Washington, DC 20036
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging/AMEX Nehring 0208
Date of Event = 02/28/2008
Amount Disbursed = 1019.04
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging/AMEX Nehring 0208
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Mileage
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1376.09
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb.CC Pmt-See Memos/Nehring Amex
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 5269.64
Payee: Verizon Wireless
PO Box 79005
City Of Industry, CA 91716
Purpose of Disbursement: Telephone-Nehring Amex
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1117.05
This is a Memo Memo Description: Telephone-Nehring Amex
Payee: Double Tree
34402 PCH
Dana Point, CA 92629
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring Amex
Date of Event = 12/18/2007
Amount Disbursed = 987.33
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring Amex
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 11/08/2007
Amount Disbursed = 2068.19
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 10/19/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1768.96
Payee: Hyatt Hotels & Resorts
1209 L St
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 10/19/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1165.42
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 09/13/2007
Amount Disbursed = 3991.77
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 09/13/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1053.45
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Verizon Wireless
PO Box 79005
City Of Industry, CA 91716
Purpose of Disbursement: Telephone- Nehring A
Date of Event = 09/13/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1367.39
This is a Memo Memo Description: Telephone- Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expense – Nehring B
Date of Event = 09/14/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1761.21
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 08/08/2007
Amount Disbursed = 2952.01
Payee: Hyatt Hotels & Resorts
1209 L St
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 08/08/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1376.85
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 06/04/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1642.36
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 06/04/2007
Amount Disbursed = 168.23
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expense – Nehring B
Date of Event = 06/25/2007
Amount Disbursed = 3475.01
Payee: Hertz Car Rental
9000 Airport Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Purpose of Disbursement: Car Rental- Nehring B
Date of Event = 06/25/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1052.12
This is a Memo Memo Description: Car Rental- Nehring B
Payee: Hyatt Hotels & Resorts
1209 L St
Sacramento, CA 95814
Amount Disbursed = 1088.16
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring B
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 05/03/2007
Amount Disbursed = 3880.17
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 05/03/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1764.91
This is a Memo Memo Description: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/01/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1720.70
Payee: Hyatt Regency WASHINGTON
400 New Jersey Ave NW
Washington, DC 20001
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/01/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1156.35
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/01/2007
Amount Disbursed = 265.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring A
Payee: Ronald Nehring
1015 OLD MOUNTAIN VIEW RD
EL CAJON, CA 92021
Purpose of Disbursement: Reimb. Expenses-Nehring B
Date of Event = 03/23/2007
Amount Disbursed = 2330.42
Payee: Hilton Garden Inn
815 14th St NW
Washington, DC 20005
Purpose of Disbursement: Lodging-Nehring B
Date of Event = 03/23/2007
Amount Disbursed = 265.15
This is a Memo Memo Description: Lodging-Nehring B
Payee: Hyatt Regency Sacramento
1209 L Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
Purpose of Disbursement: Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
Date of Event = 03/23/2007
Amount Disbursed = 1115.28
This is a Memo Memo Description:Hotel Lodging-Nehring A
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Bansharia, Is this post exhaustive enough for you?
My regime change answer: Conservatives — Move to NV.
This CA GOP is eternally hopeless.
Will the last conservative in California turn out the lights? Thanks.
Way above my AMEX limit! Whew! Whips out that plastic likes it’s free!
I received my absentee ballot a few days back, it was in an envelope shaped like a butt and when you opened it smoke came out.
fixed it for you.
Well, if we survive the next six years, we’ll be glad to. Although, I don’t think the lights have been on in Excremento for several years now.
Yeah, I got that one too.
Hundreds of dollars for the telephone? Hasn’t this idiot ever heard of “unlimited” calling plans?
Oh yeah, El Cajon, 110 in summer, brains fried. Smart conservatives live in La Jolla…
I wouldn’t live in that state on a bet.
I used to think it would be good if Kalifornia just slid into the ocean, but then I realized the survivors would just move to Nevada and complain that the government didn’t do enough to stop it.
So now I’m more of the “Fence It Off to keep the crazy’s in” type.
Yours had smoke? Mine had…
its time for the GOP to go the way of the whigs..
Mine too! Biohazard material we got there : )
In a nut shell this is what happened to us with Arnold:
He got elected on the promise he was going to reign in spending
Had a bunch of ballot measures to do that during a special election
Unions spent millions against those measures
Measures failed
Arnold rolled over and gave up
Doesn’t help that he has to listen to socialist pillow talk every night either
the GOP motto:
slightly less fascist than the democrats!!
The California GOP was actually crepit when I first moved here. They even had feckle. Now? Not so much.
So George Will missed something like this, but noticed everyone was wearing blue jeans?
After producing the late, great Ronald Reagan, this is what the California Republican Party has been reduced to.
Looks like the lyrics to “Creeque Alley” – livin on American Express Cards, … and California dreamin’ is becomin’ a reality
Like most actors, he loves to be loved and was an easy mark for the Sacramento Socialists. Not to mention wrapped around the finger of his socialist wife of the Nefarious Kennedy clan.
*As I have said before, California is the canary in the coal mine; Keep a close watch as it nears bankrupcy and seeks further assistance from D.C.; They are kicking the can down the road, but will soon run out of road; Then it becomes Chaosifornia when Newsom becomes governor; Give a drunk a drink, that should be their state motto.
Look at CA very carefully, that is the future of the GOP nationally with the “leaders” currently pushing the National Council For A New America.
Conservatives are kind of partial to the old America, we have no wish to be represented by, donate to, or vote for Democrat-Lite.
GOP=Whig
GOP-RIP
Will’s column was brilliant, but it couldn’t possibly get the whole story out.
Great work, Michelle!
The Junk-Bond-State…Golden no more…
poor Ahnold. Married to AFK.
We have “canary” cases aplenty in our nation. Kletofornia, New Yark, Missyourjobagin…
But nobody with a brain lacks models to show the failure of statist policy.
Look at the opposite model. The Irish Miracle. The Indian Miracle. Where do these miracles come from? Lower taxes, business friendly legal systems that uphold contract and financial law,
CAPITALISM.
There are still a couple of issues with this here with the CRP and this. First they are against Prop 1F, which limits giving pay raises to politicians when there is a deficit. It is the only ballot measure with a majority and in fact 70% support it. By their failure to endorse it they are telling the public they are the same as the democrats.
Second, while the CRP finally endorsed a no vote, the Republican Governor, Republican Assembly leader and Republican Leader Senate Republican endorsed a Yes vote.
What I can not believe is why the CRP have not voted these people out of the leadership positions they have in the CRP, Assembly and Senate and until they do there is going to be no hope for the CRP.
*This National Council for a New America; How insane; It is DOA as far as inspiring conservatives; How about the old America with a vision for the 21st century?; It is doable; Mitt Romney needs to distance himself from that group asap if he wants to be viable in 2012.
*And Cantor is front and center with this group; He voted for the original sin bailout and the 90% tax on bonuses; Hey Eric, check if you see that in the constitution and get back with us before you carry on with your listening tour; Then you’ll know what the boos are all about.
The CA GOP calls me every week seeking urgent funds!!! I inquired for what? They said to hold line against the Democrats. I laughed and hung up.
Has anyone done any serious study of the CA special election initiatives? Thge props seem like an elaborate shell game moving money from one place to another with some extra taxes and borrowing added for good measure.
My inclination is to say no to them all, but I am not sure where that will leave us. It is hard to get a straight answer. Maybe the best strategy is to oppose the public employees and teachers unions and vote against what they want.
Michael Steele was unavailable for comment…
George Will’s column was timely, but also left out another critical point in his analysis regarding California’s economy. How has the “Golden State” gotten into the shape it’s in?
Yes, we have more than our fair share of RINO’s, but that’s not the core of the problem. The core is unfettered illegal immigration, aided in part by our conservative hero, Ronald Reagan’s boondoggle when he signed the Amnesty Bill…that opened the floodgates.
Reagan should have known…trusting liberals is not the most intelligent thing a right-thinking person can do. Our conservative icon gave the liberals the benefit of the doubt, and his trust…and got burned for it.
With the state already heavily Democratic, and inundated with closet socialists, a realist could have predicted what was to come:
New, and expanded social programs were created to take care of all the illegal migrant workers, their family members, and others opened the flooded into California to take advantage of all the freebies.
When you come right down to it, this was and is the greatest cause for the California economic downfall. This immigrant population eventually flooded the public school system. “Free” health care for the same. Then came the necessary “bi-lingual” state publications, so that the I.A.’s could communicate more efficiently to get the state benefits, and so on, and so forth. All while not adding funds to the kitty via income tax. What ever happened to the idea of paying one’s fair share?
How was California ever going to be able to dole out benefits to these people without taking in off-setting capital? The liberal’s did what liberal’s always do…they took the easy way out, and raised taxes on everything. Nothing was off limits.
Fast forward to the present…California STILL has the largest outlay of cash for immigrant benefits in the nation. It has the highest personal income tax, business tax, and property tax rates in the nation. Approximately 30% of it’s prison population consists of illegal alien criminals. It leads the nation in restrictive environmental laws. It also has the largest deficit in the nation. Businesses are leaving the state en mass.
California has rules and regulations that are the most restrictive in the nation, from conservation to gun rights to free speech. This “bleeding heart” mentality has changed this once great state into a failed social experiment. Yet, progressives don’t think they’ve done enough! It will never be enough, as far as they are concerned.
This is the model the liberal progressives are using to re-shape America. It is grandiose, corrupt, based on emotion not science, and is costly.
Unfortunately, California’s gift to the rest of America is incompetent, foolish, power hungry, ignorant elitists, who ARE above the laws they pretend to enforce. Thank you,Barbara Boxer, Jane Harmon, Diane Feinstein, the Sanchez sisters, George Miller, Nostril-damus, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, the Nuevo-Mexicanas racists now in the Obama Administration.
Can you see what’s in store for you, America? It is happening now in Washington, D.C. All Your rights are under assault, and are in jeopardy. One party, one ideology is steering this country towards oblivion. We must unite, and rid ourselves of this “progressive” cancer, before it’s too late.
“Those who forget the lessons of history, are doomed to repeat it.”
Abel Maldonado (R) was the final vote that passed the last budget (tax increase). As his reward (bribe) for caving in he got Prop 1F.
Prop 1F is fine, but some of us don’t want to reward those that sell us out on tax increases that cost us tens of billions of dollars.
When will we stop seeing these half-truths about Reagan and illegal immigration? Yes, it is true that he signed THAT Kennedy bill. But those comments should always include the fact that Reagan eventually declared that it was the worst mistake of his career. Adding that little fact changes everything so could we try that in the future?
I live in CA and I’m voting NO on all of them except the one to cut pay to the Leg when there’s no budget on time.
Finally, for once, this time, really, really, really the Democrats are going to have to cut at least $14 billion from the budget. The only way to make cuts of that size is by massively cutting social programs. State-funded welfare-for-life, paid for with state funds, is going to have to go. One-fifth of this state is on Medicaid (Medi-Cal here). Schools get one half of the general fund every year right off the top and STILL the teacher lobby screams it’s not enough.
It’s going to get really ugly. I can’t wait.
They are a shell game and you should say no to them.
Until Sacramento ever learns to be fiscally responsible and that it can’t continue to lavishly spend more of our money and tax us into oblivian, then these propositions become useless. Pass them and we get higher taxes. Defeat them and Excremento finds other ways to suck the cash it needs out of whatever anemic tax base remains in KaliforniaSSR to support its habit.
I don’t see how the California electorate could possibly become stupider than it already is.
I’ve reviewed measures 1A thru 1F. With the exception of the 1F, they are all nothing more than artificial gimmickry, designed to pretend that shifting money from one box to another will “magically” make the budget healthier.
It is beyond insane, and reflects the abject cowardice of the California GOP, and the ever lower intelligence of the California electorate.
Reason #99 I’m a registered independent.
A federal judge just ordered Duroville (a third world ghetto in America) to remain open. Duroville, the future of California:
“In closing arguments Thursday, Assistant U.S. Atty. Leon Weidman said leaking sewage, 800 feral dogs, piles of debris and fire hazards made Duroville a deadly threat to its roughly 5,000 tenants. The cost of bringing it into compliance, he said, would exceed $4.3 million, which park revenues could never cover.”
Yeah, like that’ll stop em. Probably take it to court if it passes. Otherwise, those leaches will find other ways to pad their pay.
Vote against ALL of them. The one you are planning to vote for has nothing to do with Leg pay. Just like 1A has nothing to do with balancing the budget.
It will. The smart electorate will continue to move out of California. Leaving behind the illiterate, ignorant, and uninformed.
It’s time for all true conservative GOP members to move here to Texas for the the “big one” to break off Cali so that it can sink into the ocean.
There’s at least ONE smart guy in Calif:
http://antonovich.co.la.ca.us/issues/illegalimmigration/index.html
$3B a year on illegal aliens. EXCLUDING education!
I think the “republicans” are losers that wanted to run as democrats but lost the coin toss. Similar to Specter, they’d run on any ticket that could get them an expense account and a do-nothing job.
If it’s on an Indian reservation, just open a casino. I’m sure all of the gambling revenue will pay for the cleanup.
I’m not in CA, but I see the effects of the illegal alien inudation corroding our entire country as it has already done in CA. If we don’t get serious about reversing it, we will lose our country. The Chamber of Commerce wing of the GOP wants to help the Democrats pass amnesty. One more amnesty and we are done, as is the GOP, don’t know why they can’t see that.
There is no Republican Party here in California, and there has not been for as long as I can remember.
How else would anyone be able to explain why Boxer and Feinstein have had absolutely no challenges to their seats? Can anyone tell me who the people were in the last 8 election cycles here?
And how else can anyone explain how Gray Davis was re-elected? With the corrupt, destructive, dishonest office he held for the first four years, only the California GOP could be so amazingly incompetent as to not find ANYONE who could beat him.
We won’t even bring up the fact that the Dems have controlled the State Legislature for years, and still they are capable of blaming everything that is wrong in this state on Republicans.
It is just like at the National level. In the Congress and Senate the Dems have been in control since 2006 and yet they are STILL blaming everything on the Republicans, and the GOP in both California and the Nation are such eunichs that they allow themselves to continually be the brunt of all blame.
There is no GOP and there hasn’t been for a long time. They are completely and totally clueless, and even as people…such as myself…abandon them in droves, they continue to do the same things over and over and over again.
Michelle, I live in Contra Costa County. The former Chairman of our county party is Tom Del Beccaro. 2nd in charge of the CA GOP. I have personally tried to get involved with the party, only to be rebuffed. Their response to my enthusiastic offer to volunteer was sort of like, mmm, thanks but no thanks. I’ve talked to several members of the Central Committee and I’ve noticed that there are a LOT of them that are frustrated over the ineptitude of the leadership. The most disturbing thing that I’ve noticed is that they employ exclusionary tactics against people would call them out on the mistakes they are making. My main point is that even though Del Beccaro doesn’t have an official position in the county party, he is still the defacto chairman, and he rules with an iron fist. He has even co-oped official Republican events into his First Amendment PAC! So I find myself on the outside looking in.
From out here, Der Terminator is starting to make Grey-out Davis actually look pretty good.
It has been my experience that the only thing the CA GOP cares about is money. Even if you have an organization and can put volunteers in place, they are not interested. They are a small club and all they want from you is a check.
Here’s a VERY interesting and revealing video from RealClearPolitics of Rush Limbaugh commenting on the new Bush/Romney Republican listening tour.
How can anyone continue to believe that Romney is anything but another stealth candidate (at best) of the left? They are declared enemies of conservatism.
Here’s another revealing article from NewsMax that speaks volumes of what is wrong with the GOP.
Polls are consistently showing Palin as the early favorite to win the 2012 nomination yet…
Looks like the RINOs conducting the “listening tour” need remedial training on the art of listening. This tour is about anything but listening.
Bad news, Sarah Palin is joining the National Council For A New America. (RINO Central Planning Committee)
VPat: where did you see that?
Free Republic, Eric Cantor has issued a statement confirming.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2012/palin-to-be-part-of-national-c.html?wprss=thefix
*They need to get off this NCFANA bovine scatology and rename that sucker; However, if they don’t, and would listen to me, first thing I would tell them is to please leave Bush and McCain off the tour bus; For those two, a New America starts with amnesty, and that is where it ends with me.
*If Sarah Palin stays true to herself, doesn’t lurch left, and musters the will to win, then I’m all in.
*I would still be well pleased with Mark Sanford.
I think she is making a big mistake. If her only reason for joining is because she has been struggling to be on “the national stage”, she should go on a separate conservative campaign of her own challenging what we know will come out of the National Council. Now, she will be one in a crowd.
We’ll know soon enough whether she can take charge of the agenda or will follow the RINO pattern of morphing into whatever the establishment wants.
What’s funny is they included what must be a typo but I fixed it.
*Thanks for the link VP; Palin would be wise to steer clear and chart her own course; She is more than dynamic enough, and people will gravitate.
*We may need a Tea Party just to straighten out the GOP; This NCNA will just become a herd of RINO’s, and they will once again get dusted; It’s conservatism, stupid!
bjc: Jed Bush declared the party of Reagan to be dead and has plenty of praise for Obama. This tour is probably dead in the crib because both Rush and Mark Levin are hammering away relentlessly at the hypocrisy of it. These RINO-led symposiums and tours were how they shoe-horned McCain into the nomination in the first place. I think this tour is a scheme to appeal to Dem voters by trashing conservatives.
Man, is THAT a stupid idea. More than 60% of Americans define themselves as “conservative” or “moderate leaning conservative”. That’s a lot of people to be labeling as out of touch “extremists”.
Sens. DeMint, Sessions, Coburn, and Inhofe and maybe a couple dozen House members already get it and don’t need to pretend to listen. The other guys are either deaf or they’ve been wearing earplugs since before the 2006 elections.
PP: Just shows they are politicians through and through and I, for one, have had my fill; They might as well take Specter along on the tour for just a little more clarity(”we just want to win elections, forget principles”).
*The correct course is fiscal conservative, social center-right, and consistent on both at all times; And someone from outside of D.C. is a must.
Tom’s Farms is a great place, looking forward to this!
Heads on a stick!
Here ya go:
1A is the tax increase tax extension and a meaningless balanced budget drivel. It has no more teeth than the existing balanced budget requirement.
Vote No.
1B only is relevant if 1A is also passed – hence it is DOA if 1A fails. IF 1A and 1B pass, then the teachers can get billions in cash w/o new taxes being enacted. Well, at least till they kill the rest of the budget anyway.
Vote No.
1C is the lottery gutting proposition. Not only does it call for selling off future lottery revenues in order to pump cash into the current budget, it tosses out the requirement that the lottery money be used on the schools. In the end, it is actually a bond measure to pay for current daily expenses. As we already know from the bonds Arnold wasted on this effort last year, this will not work.
Vote no.
1D and 1E – redirects money targeted by propositions into the general fund. Since this does not actualy add new taxes, all it really does is to allow the legislature to use the money where it might be needed more. I am indifferent to the underlying ’causes’ so I do not have a position.
Your on your own.
1F is a very cynical joke. Since it is currently illegal for the legislature to pass an unbalanced budget, this proposition is meaningless. It seems that the legislative game that calls corrections to inflated projected budgets ‘cuts’, has so confused the legislature that they do not even understand they have a legal requirement to submit ONLY BALANCED BUDGETS!
Vote no.
Of course, any other ‘goody’ tax increases that may have found their way to your ballot should receive appropriate treatment. On mine, they slapped on an initiative for a brand new parcel tax for the local school district.
^ nicely done Freddy
Watching all of this mess unfold in California, makes me think, “Isn’t feel-good socialism wonderful?” There are many who think so. They want the same plan for the entire U.S..
I think this list could/should be simplified. The battle is not about any of the listed topics. The battle is about conservative principles vs. liberal ones. Principles which took USA to the top or principles which have never worked anywhere in the world. When the principles are right, the details take care of themselves.
I would argue the GOP no longer has the foundation to build success (sure they may win a few elected offices – but winning office does not equal success)
What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world, but lose his soul?
Yes. This has been bugging me since an earlier thread re “moderate principles.” Just what, exactly, ARE “moderate principles”? Conservative principles I know: small gov’t., lower taxes, strong national defense, individual freedoms, personal responsibility, opportunity unlimited. (Note: I only mentioned the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness, not the most important, right to life.)
Liberal principles are a little more fuzzy, perhaps deliberately so: more government control, less personal responsibility, less personal wealth, emphasis on collectivism.
Moderate principles, not sure what that means.
Forgot to add:
This is why the GOP’s “listening sessions” sound like so much BS to me.
If they don’t know by now what conservatism is, and why they should be opposing attacks on it, then “listening sessions” (e.g., taking a poll) aren’t going to help.
I lived in California, LA county 20 years ago for only ONE year, that was enough for me. Sorry Californians but in my opinion if the union could secede from that state it wouldn’t be a loss.
I don’t think anyone is listening. If we want the party back we have to insist on certain things:
1)Make it clear that John McCain will not receive your support for president
2)We want new leadership with solid conservative values that DO NOT change when the wind blows in another direction.
3)Sarah Palin is what is RIGHT about the conservative movement.
4)No money ever again until you respond to the wishes of your base. Put up or shut up.
I personally may change my affiliation to independent to send a clear message. If enough people do they might catch on.
Even O.J. Simpson left The Socialist Peoples Soviet of Kalifornication. Perhaps it is time the United States were not so united. Is is time for a New Declaration of Independence and put the Grand Old Gal down?
There is nothing left to love–the Fascist/Progressives have done their job well. The Hell with the weaklings and cowards who crawl before the Obamination as if he were a god-I want nothing to do with them.
Careful My Friends
And Always
Practice Safe
Right Wing Extremism
#46 In Lassencounty, the GOP chairman is corrupt. I can’t even breath the same air he is in…it is foul.
We need a new party. The insiders just control with cronyism.
I’ve been reading reports that the pols are scheming to divide your property tax bill to tax your house and the land it sits on separately. What a hornets’ nest that will be.
Either the democrats have taken over leadership of the gop or they are just that weak, that they see no possibility of ever success and they are running the “Producers” scam. ( from the movie and play….sell 5,000% of a loosing play make money, live it up…. and no one looks at the money…since they produced another looser?) I just cant figure it out, but it seems that the gop is invested in voter fraud, favoring the democrats and more than willing to accept the minority position in BIG government. At any rate what ever they are doing or not doing…..I am out.
Yes. I think their tortured logic is something like “well if it (liberalism) works for the Dems, then it will work for us”. Their only goal is to keep themselves in office. Maybe they get $$$ from the DNC?
That’s why they campaign like conservatives (even Dems do this) and then govern like libs. True colors and all.
ATTN GOP: Liberalism disguised as “moderation” is NOT the only alternative!
Jimmie: the GOP leadership is dominated by a small club of liberals who cannot be elected as Democrats. Romney and Jeb Bush are conducting this listening tour declaring Reagan Republicanism dead while praising Obama as worthy of emulation. Is McCain scripting this party or what? They sound like Marcia Clark making closing arguments to the jury in the OJ trial. (”I don’t know how I would decide if I were a sitting in the box”.)
They’ve taken “We may be bad but they’re worse!!” to a new level. It is now “We suck! We need to be more like them!”
The GOP has lost its way.
Leadership is more than just “listening sessions.” It involves staking out your position and championing it. Enthusiasm for conservatism is alive and well, just not at the top levels of the GOP.
Again I say, the GOP has lost its way. It has no idea how to find it.
George Will was too busy bashing people who wear jeans to really get at what’s going on in California.
I am going to keep repeating this until I either have an aneurism or it starts registering with someone in the conservative channels. The ball is now in conservative House Republicans’ court. They are being handcuffed by Boehner and Cantor and they need to do two things:
One: they need to “storm the palace” and demand new leadership.
Two: regardless of whether they get new leadership, they need to start caucusing with Dem Blue Dogs and reunite that part of the Reagan coalition. Boehner and Cantor like to toss around conservative bromides for public consumption but they NEVER approach the Blue Dogs for help. How do I know that? The Blue Dogs keep saying so!
We don’t need a “listening tour” (as in “Shut up and listen conservatives!”), we need new leadership across the board. We need to see some of the younger people in the lower ranks come forth and show some spine. We are still a conservative-right nation. Have faith in Americans. Take the chance.
The current “leadership” of the GOP IS the problem. The GOP is the Whig Party of the 21st Century.
IF THE GOP IS GOING TO CHANGE THEY WILL BECOME MORE RINO-ISH!
THERE IS NO ROOM LEFT FOR CONSERVATIVES IN THE GOP. WATCH HOW THEY TREAT PALIN AND JINDAL IN 2010 AND 2012.
I sent Cantor a blistering e-mail telling him he had received his last vote from me, that I will work for any primary opponent and failing that, a third party candidate in the general.
GOP=WHIG
GOP-RIP
I am starting to doubt that. At this point only 53% of Americans prefer Capitolism to Socialism, the Dem’s control the Executive and Congressional branches of giverment, and the Republican party is in absolute shambles because it has no appeal to blacks, hispanics, or young voters. Add to that the control that unions and the media have over things and I would say that the Nation is not swinging to the right any time soon.
Republican’s need to go back to the drawing board and find a platform that resonates with people. It is time to drop the litmus tests on abortion and gay marriage. These are divisive issues that keep people out of the tent. The Republican’s need to convince America that government does not solve problems and there is no socialist utopian government better than a market based economy where the individual has the responsibility and opportunity to succeed.
Another loser of an issue right now is global warming. Regardless of your beliefs on anthropogenic warming, the Republicnas come across like they want to pollute the world. This is the wrong way to come across if you want to attract a generation of voters that is deeply concerned about the enviroment and is spooked by the notion of global warming.
Sarah Palin’s joining the National Council For A New America could be a good thing. As that council is recieving little support, and creating little excitment, her involvment could turn it around so that it becomes her own organization. That depends on how many SarahCuda people show up at their town hall meetings.
California Conservative, don’t allow them to exclude you. Show up to all of their meetings, be there as much as you can be before the elections, and you will make a difference. I know how it is to feel like a cow bell on a cesna, but by just being there you will meet other conservative minded people, and together you can shake things up.
Starting a new party sounds great right now. The effort and money it would take to do so prohibits that. We will be better off taking the GOP back for its infrastructure alone.
It is all about baby steps. The GOP insiders know that, and that is what scares them very badly. We can make a difference.
Now would be a good time to send SarahPac a few bucks, and befriend her on Facebook.
First of all, that poll on capitalism vs socialism is very dubious. If phrased correctly and assuming the polling sample reflects America, I would be shocked if that poll is accurate. Rasmussen routinely polls for liberal/conservative and the results are surprisingly consistent. America is simply not interested in Pelosi/Kennedy/Bush/McCain one-worlder socialism.
As to blacks, Hispanics and other minorities, we are losing them because no one is making the case to them. Here in CA, gay marriage failed because the LATINO AND BLACK voters killed it. Family values are very big within the Latino community and people like Bill Cosby, Juan Williams, Shelby Steele are forever preaching self-determination to the black community and we could be building on THAT.
The reason Reagan succeeded was because he BELIEVED in conservatism and focused on the three main tenets of conservatism in making an articulate case to American voters. His “big tent” was populated by people who came to realize that basic conservatism principles appealed to them. The current GOP is selling out.
This GOP fear of future Latino voters is simply brain dead. Why do we have to abandon American ideals to get their votes? They came to America for a reason and it wasn’t to recreate the third-world life they left in Mexico. Let’s give them a choice and stop abandoning them to the Marxists who populate the channels they are stuck in. LaRaza only speaks for Latinos because both political parties find it expedient, particularly the lazy, elitist Republicans.
Interestingly enough, the GOP never had a litmus test on abortion for judges or party membership. Ironically the Democrats do. Name one pro-life Democrat in a national leadership position? Can’t do it, can you.
Of course, on “Gay marriage” the GOP is all over the place. The Dems are all in favor of it even though people like Obama blatantly lie and say they oppose it. But everyone knows Obama is lying about his position.
And the idea that conservatives have to be so “sensitive” to eco-concerns, real or imagined, and wreck the economy in order to not offend people who have no idea what they are talking about is frankly lunacy.
How many people around the world will die from the regulations implemented to combat “global warming” in the USA? The resultant poverty imposed on Asia and Africa will result in millions of deaths to address a “sensitivity” that is imaginary!
This is madness! You don’t fight madness by being “sensitive” to it. You educate those idiots who clamor for a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
We could wreck the US economy and not alter the temperature by 1/4 degree. And we will cause millions of deaths around the world doing so! Can anyone seriously believe this is what the GOP needs to do to become relevant?
It looks like someone is drinking a lot of kool-aid out there in what is left of the GOP.
Fellow Californians:
Vote NO on 1a through 1e, yes on 1f (not that it will make a difference to them). Its time our elected get the message to make cuts and stop playing a shell game with OUR MONEY!
This is EXACTLY right. The idiot citizens of cali spent millions having a special election to oust Davis and replace with Arnold…only to vote against his proposals to change how sacroment-al works.
Talk about STUPIDITY!
WarEagle82:
Well said. California Blue would be a more truthful moniker. He sounds just like the NCNA types who want more me-too, Dem-liteness.
Not drinking Kool-aid. I actually want my beverage straight up fiscal conservatism and I don’t want it watered down with the other issues that I suggested were divisive.
Give me a party that actually follows the principles of limited government and I am on board. If the party doesn’t walk the walk and gets tangled up in social issues I see no hope or reason.
As for the enviromental issue, my suggestion is not that we should implement CO2 caps or hamstring our businesses. My suggestion is that the GOP should stop letting the Democrats commandeer the Green issue. Replublicans can be good stewards of the enviroment and at the same time promote profitable business. We need to enagage the issue, just like you wisely suggest we do with the minority voters getting exploited by the Marxists.
What pi$$es me off the most, it isn’t just the CA GOP paying for those expenses, the national is sharing the cost, if “federal” means the GOP national??? Anyone know?
oops. Gave wareagle credit for Pasdena Phils comments on minorties.
Virginia Patriot: you know nothing about me. How can you defend the status quo in the GOP when it obviously ain’t effective at running the givernment or wining elections.
The GOP needs radical ideas for conservative values. Here’s one: Dump the New Hampshire primary, replace it with another state. My suggestion is Colorado, with no cross-over votes.
CalRed,
I think you are overlooking one simple fact. Social “liberalism” ultimately MANDATES fiscal irresponsibility. You cannot be a fiscal conservative long-term and a social liberal. It won’t work.
If you buy into the leftist social agenda you really must “buy in” with someone else’s money.
Think about it and prove me wrong. Ultimately the vast majority of federal spending is spent on pushing idiotic and failed leftist social policies.
CalifRed:
I don’t defend the status quo of the GOP. I would just as soon they disappear completely. They do not and will not defend traditional American conservative values. Rule of law, national sovereignty, the Constitution. They are worse than worthless, they are an impediment to defeating the socialists. When they reach across the aisle to pass another amnesty, they will cut their own throats and ours.
Sorry if I offended, but the “divisive” issues are very important to many on the right and abandoning them gains fewer votes than it costs, McCain has already demonstrated the fallacy of that approach.