Well, if “good natured” means virtually ignoring Obama and doing a nightly riff on Bush (see Letterman), than you would be correct. How many times have you seen the “fifth of fourth” story run? How about the old “Great Moments in Presidential Speeches” bit that Letterman did almost every night? Gone but not forgotten.

All presidents take if from latenight hosts and SNL. You must have forgotten about the Clinton years.

You cite two sources that nobody watches or reads, which is equivalent to burying the story sixteen paragraphs in on page B13.

I cited two sourses that are widely known as being left of left, who actually took Obama to task for the botched joke.

I have no issues with the premise that the MSM leans left on serious issues. But the MSM and SNL and lateshows all evenly tease presidents for harmless gaffes or blunders. Extreme Rightwingers get fantatical about lefty gaffes, “57 states”, “jobs..3letter word”, and ignore righty gaffes. Extreme Leftwingers usually get fanatical about righty gaffes, and ignore lefty gaffes. However, in this case two of the most widely known leftwinger sources, Huffpo and MSNBC’s Olberman actually did mock Obama for the gaffe.

“If George Bush said what Barack Obama said…”

Strangely, in this instance, it would have played out the same way.

Now, what would the talkradio, and rightwing blogosphere reaction be if Obama had 9/11 happen on HIS WATCH, and then subsequently, immediately flew Bin Laden’s family out of the country? In all raw, true, honesty, tell me, what would the reaction be from your side? All other contingencies being equal, but for the players(Obama v. Bush). Would you solely blame a previous republican administration for the pre 9/11 failures? Would Obama get a pass? Threads like this initally get me angry, but I eventually grow bemused because hypocrisy reigns.

The MSM and latenight talkshows have always been good natured about busting the chops of both parties when it comes to joke gaffes. Usually, as I said before, the extremes on each side get fanatical about it.

Well, if “good natured” means virtually ignoring Obama and doing a nightly riff on Bush (see Letterman), than you would be correct. How many times have you seen the “fifth of fourth” story run? How about the old “Great Moments in Presidential Speeches” bit that Letterman did almost every night? Gone but not forgotten.

Again, look at the depth and frequency with which the MSM pounded any misstep of Bush, real or perceived. Compare it to the Obama coverage. You cite two sources that nobody watches or reads, which is equivalent to burying the story sixteen paragraphs in on page B13.

If you want to get into the “wayback” machine, compare and contrast the 2004 election coverage of Bush’s TANG service as compared to Kerry’s Swiftboat service. That was apalling and telling.

Just looking for a little equity here. Or maybe the forgotten mission of objectivity.

On May 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm, Dimsdale said:

The MSM and latenight talkshows have always been good natured about busting the chops of both parties when it comes to joke gaffes. Usually, as I said before, the extremes on each side get fanatical about it.

However, a funny thing happened regarding “cinco de quatro”:

“If George Bush said what Barack Obama said…”

Chap linked a Huffpo piece where they made an issue of Obama’s gaffe. Later that night, KeithfreakenOlberman actually make Obama a “worse person in the world” over the botched joke. I guess MM whiffed on the premise of this thread. I see I have no takers on “if Obama, did what Bush did” before and after 9/11. The rightwing would have had his head. The truth hurts, I know.

Maybe when they begin celebrating thr 4th of July in Mexico I’ll rethink it…but that ain’t happening…

A free press is necessarily (or should be) an objective press.

Exactly Dim, princesses like undreseige do not get this. I don’t understand how they justify the hypocracy, or not see it (fascism). Conservatives went after Bush for not securing the border, the tarp crap, not fighting back against national security being broadcast to the world by nasty reporters like @ the NYT, and especially did not like McCain…. But lefties hyperventilate when Obama does moronic things and we point it out, like the MSM used to do to Bush. I think the Cinco de Mayo gaffe is BS, but Michelle has a great point, a Republican would never be forgiven for insulting Hispanics, no matter how much they would laugh at it. I’m tired of it. Lefty projection is really getting old.

On May 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm, undresiege said:

You mean like Bill Clinton?

Aha, thanks for proving my point.

On May 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm, AlohaGuy said:

My point is, all things being equal, and if Obama behaved just like Bush, and his term(w. 9/11) followed a republican term. The right would be demanding investigations into Obama’s ties to the Bin Ladin family. They’d be seeking congressional hearings and perhaps impeachment, for Obama allowing 9/11 to happen on his watch.

Since Bush was a republican, he got a “pass” on his actions before and immediately after 9/11, and instead you blame the democrat(Bill Clinton).

Gaffes, incompetence, it’s all about perceptions and who is in office. The left piled on Bush, and the right piles on Obama. I can see through all of the B.S., and you should too. MM is a player so she creates he own B.S. pile, because a liberal is in office. Only the players on the Left made a continuous big deal of Bush’s gaffes.

If Bush said “cinco de quatro, MM wouldn’t have a thread about it. Now that Obama says it, I doubt Huffpo has a thread about it. It’s all a bunch of “my team, your team” nanny, nanny boo-boo crap

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I would agree if the bulk of the mainstream media was not in the business of being Democrat boosters/Republican critics. Talk shows/radio are fine: they are supposed to be biased one way or the other, but I should not be able to detect the political bent of a reporter in his/her reporting in regular news.

That is the great inequity that drives the majority of the he said (and it gets played for weeks)/she said (and it is buried, if reported at all, somewhere near the obits.

A free press is necessarily (or should be) an objective press.

Guess doing all that prep for celebrating a Mexican holiday that Mexicans don’t even celebrate took away all the time that otherwise would have gone to learning traditional American folk songs and games and celebrating this country’s real holidays…

I see that Obama prepping for this also made it impossible for him to support the annual National Prayer Day in the White House. His explanation? He prays privately – no need to put on a show.

Nevermind me on this thread. I forgot I was in crazytown. Carry on, carry, on. LOL

absolutely right, go back to singing about dear leader, msnbc will be so proud. no bias going on, oh no, none at all….braindead much?