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1. #101
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, chapoutier said:

   Khrysis,

   I won’t rehash the same arguments I did in the other thread. You are more than welcome to look that over. But these reports do take time to produce and have to go through a number of bearocratic layers, for better or worse. The fact that it took so much longer for the previous reports to come out is at least evidence that this report was completed in a timely fashion.

   And fortunately, unlike your death penalty argument (which btw is a pretty good case for scrapping it) Congress can get a second chance with updated data.

2. #102
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, T-Bone said:

   Can us voters get a second chance with Obama?

3. #103
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, chapoutier said:

   Can us voters get a second chance with Obama?

   In about 3 1/2 years. Like clockwork.

4. #104
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm, 24Klady said:

   One minute it’s a photo op and the next it’s a training mission. I have a serious problem with any plane the size of this one practicing manuevers over a city the size of New York. To my knowledge this isn’t where they normally train so why now? Has this ever happened before?

5. #105
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Flyoverman said:

   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, chapoutier said:

   In about 3 1/2 years. Like clockwork.

   And assuming his numbers are not in the tank to the point hwere it would be suicidal for the Democrats to run him again.

   Not likely given the media worship and an ill-informed electorate, but we can always dream…..

6. #106
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, Khyris said:

   Sorry, didn’t see your other thread… which one?

   The WSJ notes that November was the final annual summary… it had already been through analysis and preliminary results phase in summer, so the bureaucratic layers angle is a hard sell for me… there’s not much left to do after taking the finalized results and preparing a summary (other than politically second-guess the data)

   Good point about second chances… but we both know that in the time it takes Congress to second-guess itself about anything, those kids aren’t getting a second chance at their education and the rest of their lives.

7. #107
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, chapoutier said:

   Khyris,

   Here you go. Looking back, at it I though I had better arguments.

   I don’t know.

8. #108
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, wdaveh72 said:

   I think debate is what we need more of, even within our own “community”.

   With that being said, I’ve got to disagree with one approach I’ve seen from Michelle and like minded bloggers….

   The whole flip-flop thing kind of bothers me. We scream and yell about a really poor decision that they’ve made and then yell flip-flop when they change to what we’ve asked for. Although they haven’t gotten there yet by releasing all of the information that’s been requested, I don’t see what the administration has done as flip-flopping. I see it as correcting itself.

   Them:”We won’t release the photos.”
   Us:”You suck! What about transparency?”
   Them:”My bad. We’ll release them.”
   Us:”You suck! You’re a flip-flopper!”

   Makes us sound like we just want to complain. Just my 2 cents.

9. #109
   On May 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Khyris said:

   Hmmm, I can kind of see your point… it would make sense that the report wouldn’t be in any rush to be released if the DOE had no indication of a voucher debate on the hill for which their report might be relevent…that’s a plausible deniability of ignorance. But if it’s not intentional suppression of DOE, it certainly IS a transparency failure of Sec-Ed who is responsible for sheparding the President’s administrative policies thru congress, and HAD to have known what their own department was working on and that there was related debate in congress. Sec-Ed should have at least raised a red-flag with the Prez: “Hey, before you sign this thing, we’re working on a report that preliminary results show vouchers are good m’kay?”
   How can we expect transparency to the public, when the administration appears to fail being transparent with itself?

10. #110
    On May 6th, 2009 at 5:35 pm, Coregis said:

    Training mission my rear end. This is from yesterday’s Harrisburg Patriot News, via the Associated Press:

    Presidential plane flies over the region

    The government jetliner called Air Force One when the president of the United States is riding in it is doing “touch and go” practice today at Harrisburg International Airport. People around the Lower Swatara Township, Pa., airport will probably notice noise and what looks like a low-flying airplane in the region.

    A touch-and-go is when an aircraft lands briefly before taking off again. The Air Force uses HIA for touch-and-go practice because the runway is long enough. In addition, it’s close to Washington, D.C., but outside the heavily used Washington-Baltimore-New York air corridor.

    If it was practice, what type of practice would require a low level flyover in one of the busiest air corridors in the world? I wonder how many other airplanes were held up because of this show?

11. #111
    On May 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Transparency means timely disclosure. And timely disclosure does not mean “when it’s most convenient for the government.”

    Very well stated, Khyris! Thank you for posting -

12. #112
    On May 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, Marie said:

    Obama has never looked directly into the camera in all his speeches. Do you s’pose he can’t look the American people in the eye as he leads our country down the rathole….?

13. #113
    On May 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    It’s amazing that Canadians understand better than we that our President hates us. We, our military, our intelligence agencies, our manufacturing base, our financial system, our diplomatic history, our justice system, and our Constitution are all evil entities that need to be purged of “badness.”

    When Chavez and Ortega launched into their anti-American tirades, a real American President would have responded with just and righteous anger instead of sitting there like a bump on a log.

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force. The Second Amendment is not up for debate. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!!

    ECS

14. #114
    On May 6th, 2009 at 7:33 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Getting those CIA memos out in the open is more important. The plane shots are a matter of State security!

    Over.

15. #115
    On May 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pm, right4life said:

    On May 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, chapoutier said:
    Khyris,

    Here you go. Looking back, at it I though I had better arguments.

    that would be a first..

16. #116
    On May 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pm, Mach1Duck said:

    Time for Tea.
    I just saw a Fox News banner on O’Riley that they are setting up government backed low rate home financing for high risk home buyers. How about honest homebuyers who are making their mortgage payments every month on time?

17. #117
    On May 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Michelle,

    Update: Flip-flop. They’re not off the hook yet.

    The link points to this article rather than the one I think you mean.

18. #118
    On May 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On May 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm, chapoutier said:

    You forgot to mention the DOE sitting on that report on the effectiveness of charter schools until after the vote to dismantle them in DC

    Oh. You mean the ones released 2 1/2 month earlier than any of the previous reports had been released?

    Did any of those precede or follow the closure of said charter schools?

19. #119
    On May 7th, 2009 at 12:15 am, Tuesday said:

    On May 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:
    It’s amazing that Canadians understand better than we that our President hates us. We, our military, our intelligence agencies, our manufacturing base, our financial system, our diplomatic history, our justice system, and our Constitution are all evil entities that need to be purged of “badness.”

    When Chavez and Ortega launched into their anti-American tirades, a real American President would have responded with just and righteous anger instead of sitting there like a bump on a log.

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force. The Second Amendment is not up for debate. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!!

    ECS

    I agree, except some of us did realize the hatred he has for EVERYTHING American before the Canadians! BO and MO are competing which one hates us more.