A whole lot of shooting, but I don’t mean literally for fear of the pacifist backlash.

On May 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

There you go, quoting that “misguided nut” Jefferson again.

txvet2: at least 30 states have passed “sovereignty” measures reclaiming/underscoring their tenth amendment rights.

Which have meaning only in those circumstances when the Federal government allows them to. Try squaring those “sovereignty” measures with medicaid, medicare, social security, and any of a thousand other federal programs that override state authority. Crying about lost state sovereignty now is slamming the door about 150 years after the horse left.

And no one (except a few misguided nuts in the South) is interested in re-fighting the Civil War. The right side won and that is just the way it is going to remain.

Not refighting any war, just pointing out the unforeseen consequences. And if you look at the history of war, the “right” side is always the side that won. For the record, several of my ancestors fought (and some died) in that war, all but one for the North.

Complicity, up and down the line. Congress, Banks, Administrations, Homeowners, Government Institions, Speculators, on and on, and, on and on.

The unfortunate reality is that many of the actions taken are a result of the pendulum swinging to address actions that should have been corrected in other ways. The pendulum swung and knocked the crap out of the economy.

Had we only lived up to our Constitution and the principles set forth therein, been consistent, and lived up to our higher ideals, we would not have used motgages to cure what has ailed our nation.

The equal application of the law, and a full understanding of capitalism, should have been advanced by our politicians.

Pasadena Phil
And no one (except a few misguided nuts in the South) is interested in re-fighting the Civil War. The right side won and that is just the way it is going to remain.

Thomas Jefferson

, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Just how much Liberty are we willing to sacrifice to mollify the Left? The Fascist always comes back for more. North South? I think not; there are Patriots and Traitors in every town, city and state. No Phil, it will not be North South, no great columns of men marching to the drum.
The country I grew up in and learned to love is gone and will be no more. Neither the Third Reich, New World Order or Peoples Republic interests me.

and the GOP’s effort to “rebrand” itself is lead by mortgage entitlement expansionist John McCain.

(buuurrrrppp!) More tea vicar?

fascist economic policy has been in ascendancy in the US since the 1930s…

under both political parties, it just keeps ticking along, faster or slower.

Now, it is galloping…

We have to refuse to be eaten.

What amendment are you talking about, txvet2? Or, are you kidding?

And no one (except a few misguided nuts in the South) is interested in re-fighting the Civil War. The right side won and that is just the way it is going to remain.

On May 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am, Pasadena Phil said:

The Tenth Amendment was repealed in 1861 by the left’s favorite Republican President. You might have missed it – it wasn’t really publicized. .