Dueling banjos in Washington; Updated
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It’s the Obama-Cheney showdown this morning. I, for one, am gratified to see this White House forced to put national security on the front burner. If not for the forceful public defenses by Vice President Cheney of the aggressive, proactive measures the last administration took to keep us safe, the current commander-in-chief would be happily gabbling about solar panels and weatherization subsidies or somesuch.
National security is and always will be the Democrats’ soft spot. And they know it.
Which is why Team Obama scrambled to preempt Cheney’s AEI speech.
Which is why the same Senate Democrats who cheered so lustily when Obama declared his Gitmo closure date turned around and denied him the funds to implement it.
Which is why Obama is embracing the very same principles of preventive detention that the Left went bananas over for the past eight years.
And which is why you woke up this morning to news of one of countless terror busts whose results were, ahem, inherited by the Obama administration.
The men and women who worked tirelessly the past eight years to prevent and disrupt jihadist plots at home and abroad aren’t the ones who’ve “lost their way.”
It’s the unreality-grounded civil rights absolutists, grievance-mongers, and 9/10 juveniles who have been and remain, in Andrew McCarthy’s apt description, willfully blind.
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Related thoughts from Meghan Clyne in the NYPost on national security and the SCOTUS wars:
A poll released this week shows Democrats have closed the gap with Republicans on national security. There are few media circuses like Supreme Court hearings — and if the GOP seizes the spotlight to focus attention on some of the left’s more bizarre and dangerous legal theories on the War on Terror, it can only work to its advantage.
After all, by placing terrorism center stage, they might just accomplish one more thing: reminding Washington, and the American people, that we are still at war. With a Democratic supermajority in the Senate, it’s unlikely that Republicans will be able to block Obama’s nominee, no matter how unappealing. Yet if they can use the Souter vacancy to show that the War on Terror isn’t just about preening lawyers, but a real battle fought by real Americans whom a lot of judges are endangering . . . well, there are worse things to get out of a confirmation hearing.
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Update: Here is the text of Cheney’s speech.
Cliff Notes’ version of Obama’s speech: I blame Bush (but, uh, I will follow his “lost way” on preventive detention. Just in a kinder, gentler, more, uh, moral way).
Update: I second Kathy Shaidle on Dick Cheney’s speech:
“Cheney’s speech was the best speech of the Bush administration. Too bad it was months/years late.”
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“Dueling banjos” – you people are finally talking about something you’re good at.
Thank you. We are excellent musicians…
In addition to being far more rational and realistic.
Indeed. When I was in the 9th grade at Waldo Junior HS, we had a black kid who ran for student body president and won solely on that “qualification.”
He was dumber than a post, which was obvious all along, but that didn’t matter. Voting for him was the “popular” thing to do, we didn’t give a tinker’s damn about what he’d do after he won.
And now … We’ve got a kid who got everything in life based on preferential treatment because of his skin color. Does anyone really think he could’ve gotten into Columbia or Harvard based on his academic qualifications? There’s a reason why they’re still top-secret.
Does anyone believe for one moment that he got onto the Harvard Law Review, and became president of the same, based on any other criterion than the color of his skin? He never wrote a single scholarly article in law school.
Does anyone believe that if he were white with the same near total lack of credentials or experience that he’d have survived the donk primaries, not to mention the general election?
Welcome back, Waldo…
We are the Renaissance men, and ladies.
Or, what Mr. Nock would call the remnant…
(See Jonah Goldberg’s excellent essay on Nock)
“What’s more, to completely rule out enhanced interrogation methods in the future is unwise in the extreme. It is recklessness cloaked in righteousness, and would make the American people less safe.”
Hear hear.
GRRRR…brings back memories of my hs days when the “rebels” voted for a deadbeat for senior class pres. The rest of us knew that this person would be expected to be the class “leader” for all future events. Of course, the deadbeat never even shows up for reunions…
Too bad we can’t have a do-over of the 2008 election…I guess even if we did, those w/the jr. high mentality wouldn’t change a thing. Lemmings, all.
AND, his racial identity has a GREAT deal to do with his maintaining even the mediocre popularity numbers he has now.
A smart person never dives into unknown waters without first checking the depth of the water below the surface. Obama leapt before he looked when he announced the closing of Gitmo. And he did it to score cheap political points with Europe and the Code Pink crowd.
Because he didn’t come up with a plan to close Gitmo BEFORE announcing its closure, his dive into unknown waters is likely to end up badly. Even if he doesn’t bash his head on rocks below the surface, he’s likely to come up with mud on his face.
And why we keep hearing how he is “personally popular” although the polls show his policies aren’t.
Nice “shot” Dick! Only needed words to bag that turkey.
Fixed it for you. Sorry, but it is a hard reality.
With all this flap about “torture” does anyone know exactly ow many suspected terrorists were actually waterboarded?
3
Actually, 3 TERRORISTS.
0 suspected terrorists.
Abu Zubayda and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri were the other two.
STILL WAITING ON THE REPORT THAT TELLS US HOW MANY LIVES WERE SAVE BY A FEW OUNCES OF WATER.
Yes, I was yelling.
Even if Gitmo WAS “quite simply a mess” when it was inherited from Bush, Eric Holder claims the prison is NOW run properly. Since the Obama Administration took over, every problem has been fixed:
So, if Gitmo is now being run in an efficient, professional manner and no one is being mistreated, why the hurry to close it? Why waste all that time and money on a non-problem. And why risk the safety of the American people by bringing terrorists here just to get back at Bush?
Yes, Mr. President, there is a “neat” and “easy” answer here. Keep Gitmo open and keep America safe! The creation of the Gitmo detention center was a brilliant move on the part of the Bush Administration. You can’t see that because you are blinded by BDS and by the “not invented here” syndrome. So change the name of the prison – like they did at Abu Ghraib – if it makes you feel better, but make it your first priority to keep America safe.
This all makes one wonder who was muzzling Cheney for the past eight years and why.
I suspect “W” had a real distaste for the–as it turns out, necessary–political infighting that both the Democrats and the mainstream media are so willing to engage in. Cheney may very well have bowed to Bush’s desires to stay “above the fray”.
But, now the gloves have come off for Cheney. With him out there speaking on a subject he is perceived to be strong on, Cheney’s poll numbers are rising!
And, as Rush posited last week, Cheney is speaking out for “love of country” as he has little else to gain personally from doing this.
wait.
He’s not white?
Well, based on the report, there was an attack on Los Angeles thwarted where they had planned on flying at least one aircraft into a high-rise building in Downtown Los Angeles. THis can be seen as having saved thousands of Americans, based on what happened on 9-11, as well as saving us more in the panic and terror the action would have caused.
Yes, a few drops of water, making an admitted terrorist who has the blood of countless Americans and others on his hands think he was drowning in a controlled environment saved the lies of unknown hundreds to thousands of Los Angelenos and others in the aftermath.
However, those facts are not important. In the Liberal mind, they are irrelevant. In their mind, were there to be a nuclear bomb set to go off in Downtown Anywhere USA, and the only way to get the information out of the guys who did it was to waterboard them or some other thing they define as heinous, they would rather have millions of Americans slaughtered so that they can say, “Sure, we lost millions of innocent men, women and children, but at least we can say we didn’t do everything in our power to stop it from happening.”
zero was throwing a tantrum in stating he will close down gitmo, when even the liberal hacks in the congress don’t buy it. this pathetic cretin posing as a leader, what a joke. he still finds one standard to high to reach, that of being a man.
The Bush Administration used the sound and straightforward doctrine of holding enemy combatants until the cessation of hostilities. The Obama Administration prefers preventive detention. The latter makes me think Obama is reading the NKVD playbook, rather than the Geneva Conventions on warfare.
On-my-soap-box said:
Soap, are you saying you don’t have faith in the President’s promise of an “open and transparent government”? I know his track record doesn’t match his words when it comes to being open with his own records (his medical records are off limits, his school records are hidden, and even his birth certificate is sealed). But surely you believe the words of Eric Holder, don’t you?
Having the “intention” of being open and transparent is all that matters, isn’t it?
You think he is reading a playbook? THAT’S funny.
These are the results of a CNN Poll (for whatever a CNN poll is worth) as of 12:35pm PDT today:
Without regard to the intelligence level of 60% of the respondents, since when is Dick Cheney an Ex-Vice President rather than a Former Vice President?
Am I upset over nothing or is this the insult it seems to be?
Sounds like an insult to me too, JustaThought…I could never imagine them calling Bubba an ‘Ex-President’.
Sheez, they practically call Gore an ‘almost-really-actually-got-more-votes President’.
I dunno…are they “former” Marines or are the “Ex” Marines?
Yes…that is most definitely an insult. He is supposed to be referred to as “Former”, much the same way as the President…unless you are addressing him personally in which case you are still supposed to refer to him as “Mr. Vice President”, or “Vice President Cheney”.
Have you seen or heard them ever refer to Gore as “Ex-Vice President Gore”? No, you most certainly have not.
I hear that. Don’t try to hang His Incompetence solely around the neck of us black folks; he’s just as much white as he is black!
And while we’re at it, what explains the elevation of Pelosi, Reid, and Biden? Point being, there’s more to the popularity of clearly unqualified elected Democrats at this time than skin color. We have a dumbed down electorate that has reached critical mass, creating the perfect opportunity for the Left.
All that said, it’s clear that his ethnicity was a huge part of his success. But I think it is also very important to give credit to how he presents himself. Like it or not, he has a unique ability to charm the mass of those on the Left and even a few on the Right side. (Personally, I cannot even stand to LOOK at him and I never listen to what he says; I read it after the fact.) But for too many, he is THE grandiloquent leader.
Absent his speaking and presentation skills, I don’t think he could have ascended to where he is today solely on the basis of being HALF black.
yeah, and besides, there are lots of Presidents that were elected despite being half Irish!
LOL
He had help from 53% of the populace of which I am going to guess 50% of them are just good ol’ stoopid.
The killing part is some of them are pretty darn smart but still are in lockstep with the administration.
On my Facebook page, a friend had a status message saying, “Dick Cheney, please show some class and go away to your ranch.” I pinged him about it and asked, “What is classless about a man defending himself against the bully pulpit of the presidency and a media that almost daily tries its best to tarnish the man as a CRIMINAL?” How is that “tacky”?
My friend is a pretty smart guy, but politics has become so emotional and irrational for him, he just “reacts” when he sees any significant conservative figure doing or saying pretty much anything.
Look at the implicit lies embedded in that statement…
“I can confidently report that the prison is now run…” This implies that it was not, before THE ONE’s magical transformation, run in a professional, efficient manner. That is a lie, as everyone who has visited GITMO has documented.
“Detainees are treated humanely.” Implicit is the lie that they were EVER NOT treated humanely.
Holder is a liar, too. And he EXPRESSLY demurred on the record to enhanced interrogation back in the day when America was on something like a war footing, as opposed to now.
That was a great speech. And the points Cheney made about the recklessness of liberals and their ability to equivocate is among the reasons I detest liberals that have the positions he described.
LOL… and all LGM can say is something about popularity. That’s comical. And sad at the same time.
I was thinking a while ago that I would LOVE for Sarah Palin to make a statement wherein she adopted the Cheney Doctrine of May 2009.
It would go a long way toward defining Palinism….
Obama has put himself in a box. Any of the conflicts turns violent or we get another terrorist attack, and he and his policies are firmly to blame.
The Constitution behind THE ONE was a fake…
appropriate.
From over at Hot Air
Cheneyku
Every time I sneer
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed faints
Try that one, Barack
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We left you a mess
You’re doing all the same things
Now they’re not messy?
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Bronx synagogues burn
Because of waterboarding
On Bizarro World
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Redefine “torture”
To mean anything you want:
Waterboarding worked
I can’t help but think that with Cheney in charge the surge would have occurred, Jan.04 and Syria would be a US ally.
I wonder how many dipwad Odopey voters are finally realizing the Community Organgrinder is in way over his head and is clueless as a grapefruit?
And Iran would be tooling up to make good watches…
Physical Damage:
Kill 3 pirates to save one ship’s captain.
NO Physical Damage:
Waterboarding to save the lives of 1000′s.
And the POTUS endorses what exactly?
So…
we want to make Super Max a terrorist target?
Hmmm…
I kinda like GITMO WAY better. Nice ocean barrier. Bad, Communist country they’d have to pal up with to get to GITMO from the landward side. LOTS of well-armed, well-trained and motivated troops…actual ARMY guys…not prison guards.
I’m willing to bet, that after the next attack on U.S. soil, even the nutroots that voted ‘Bambi/Biddlebum will be crying for the grown-ups to be back at the helm. After today’s speech, to upstage a Former V.POTUS, ‘Bambi looks more childlike and petulant than ever. He simply must always be in front of an audiance or cameras. Bet he’s another one that can’t pass a mirror without preening.
They used to write Greek comedies and tragedies about the vanity of their leaders.. Today, we live it 24/7 on cable news.
Bush had the worse PR team ever. Bush was a poor communicator and he never tired to even stand up for his decisions. He never even tried to explain why he made certain decisions. He let the Dems and the media define him. It’s so frustrating !! I’m so glad Cheney is now standing up for these Bush decisions.
Well, well…here we have Obama, backed into a corner, forced to do his first honest days’ work of his life.
Courtesy of the (evil) former Vice-President Richard Cheney (who, if we had any luck at all, should have been the current sitting President).
Poking the MSM in the eye is Cheney’s long-suit. Bush did not see this as beneficial to the office. I’ll have to agree to a certain extent. However, now-a-days the game seems to have changed, since the media no longer reports fairly on both sides.
So…screw ‘em…go Cheney!
Why does Obama have to rush to the pulpit every time somebody disses him? Poor guy. Let’s get him a psych doc to help him with this phobia. And why does he have to constantly dump on Bush? 26 negative comments on the Bush administration in his press conference today. Hey, it’s over man. Move along dude. We need a president here, not a struggling history teacher. Start being president any time you want.
I’m not going to give either administration any slack here. There are hundreds of Saudi “students” and Somalia “refugees” brought here all the time. Just let in. Given food and housing etc, etc. IMHO this is the real problem we face. Are they radicalized? Maybe not. But why does the STATE DEPARTMENT risk it? Bush or Obama or Slick Willy for that matter, could have stopped this ridiculous policy years ago. Personally, I can sleep at night knowing terrorists are locked up in a maximum security federal prison in their cells 23-1/2 hours a day with no time for prostelitizing. Do I want my tax dollars going to that? No. But, Obama is hell bent on closing down Gitmo and I don’t reckon these idiots will escape from a maximum security facility. I worry more about all the terrori….ooops…I mean “students” & “refugees” the State Dept. imports. On purpose for some reason. Hmmmm
How about getting THE ONE to answer these…
1. Mr. President, your Attorney General has said that GITMO is being run “efficiently and professionally”, and that detainees are “humanely treated”. Please explain your compelling reason to bring arguably the most dangerous men in the world on to American soil, rather than leaving them where they are being humanely treated?
What “American value” is served by that move?
2. Mr. President, will you give your personal assurance that the GITMO detainees will not be released, under any circumstances, into the American population?
3. Mr. President, do you mean to tell the American people that the Super Max facility is as secure as GITMO?
4. Are the Federal prison guards as secure from terrorist attack, including an attack on their families, as are the military personnel at GITMO?
5. Can you assure that the people of Colorado will never be subjected to the situation where a school full of children is not taken by terrorists demanding the release of their detainee comrades?
And I could write a WHOLE lot more…
why yes. yes it is. The one we plan on sending them to is in the middle of a Military training base. next question Jake.
Well, Jake, we’ve decided to setup a seperate fenced-in camp on the grounds outside guarded by military police.
What is keeping any of them from doing that now? Gitmo or not Gitmo?
I don’t want Gitmo closed either rags…but you know he’s going to do it one way or the other.
Well, you excel at perpetrating stereotypes and hate against groups of people you couldn’t possibly understand or wish to understand. Do you ever feel like being genuinely, intelectually honest or is this all you’re capable of?
No, no… continue contemplating your fuzzy navel and bemoaning how “divided” our country is because of the Republicans. I’m sure the immediate answer you fail to confront will again look at you through your bathroom mirror once more.
Having been on many military bases of all types…both as a service member and in other guises…including during the immediate period after 9/11, I can assure you that I could wreak utter destruction on a training base with impunity. They are the LEAST secure bases, outside of purely logistics ones, in the military structure.
But, I take your point.
My point was, a real life reporter could PIN the freaking KING down, and obtain his answers to “your personal assurance” questions.
It ain’t hard…
There is so much whining and hand-wringing about the poor Gitmo detainees and their terrible plight. I look at it this way: These guys started out as goatherders, sitting on rocks and daydreaming all day before they were attracted to the terrorist-thug style of life. Then, they start tear-assing around blowing up kids etc. and get caught by us. We transport them to Gitmo and there they sit. What is going through their minds? Well, I’ll bet that more than a few are thinking “Hey, this is great. While my buddies are back home, on the run, and getting shot at all the time, I am sitting here on a nice soft bed instead of a rock, with fantastic food, primo health care, nice reading material, and arabic tv. I can sleep all day, watch tv all night, no bullets to dodge, no constantly having to look over my shoulder for predator drones that are hunting me. And if I get my feelings hurt for some reason, I can hurl the most vile curses at my guards, even throw feces and cups of urine at them with no fear that they will beat me to death like any other arab or third- world country would. Hey, and I just heard that we all were recently “upgraded” by the American president. No more terse interrogations or the guards will be in deep KaKa with the president. Gee, life is good. All I have to do is keep pretending that i am SOOOO miserable so I don’t blow this incredible good deal.
I’ll say this for Dick Cheney: he was certainly a better SecDef than the likes of that a$$ kisser Gates who suddenly decided, “hey, I’m gonna fire this general because he’s just not the right fit after about a year.” Oopsy there.
I just wish that Dick Cheney had shown more of this spine during the administration instead of letting Americans and a lazy, anti-military media get complacent and forget 9/11. Believe me I know they have. I see the same people, walking in a daze and complaining about a practice Navy airfield that’s too close to their home.
Good on Cheney. Hey, LGM, could you be the first liberal to host one of these “poor, victimized” terrorists? Please?
The hypocrasy of Obama is breath-taking. I couldn’t believe my ears when he preached the Constitution to us today in his Gitmo speech. Everything this creep does is a violation of the Constitution. Does he think we are idiots? He knows that there are enough of us who are idiots that he can slither on.
Sure. Let’s have the “Daily Kos Half-way House For GITMO Detainees”, “The Barbara Streisand Memorial Center For Maltreated Jihadists”, and “The Barack And Michelle Obama Rehabilitation Center”.
They would have to post a trillion dollar bond, of course…
and I yours.
“Real-life reporters” seem to be a thing of the past. Sad really….you know, to watch them all grovel around their man Obama like he is some kind of Saint who should not be questioned but covered-for. They are groupies not journalists. Well, ok, Jake Tapper seems to dole it out a little but that’s it. And Major Garrett barely gets a question so who’s left?
Maybe us.
We can ask our friends and relatives questions like the ones I suggested.
THE ONE will never answer them forthrightly, but that never means ordinary Americans will not answer them for themselves.
“Struggling history teacher” is not even accurate. Even Obama’s “present” vote did not mean he learned anything that day. He revises/ manipulates history to present himself in a good light. Can’t be a history teacher that way.
you are quite right sir.
You guys are giving liberals way too much credit here. Liberals could care less about torture. What they actually want is power. They want to win elections so that they can implement their utopian society that they have in their brains.
This torture nonsense allows them to attack Republicans who they see as an obstacle in the way of their great society. They could care less about others. All they care about is themselves. Look at guys like Bill Ayers who would KILL people to get his way. Do you think he is really worried about torture if he is willing to kill his enemies. Think about that.
Self-righteous indignation…with a heaping dose of affirmative action.
Obama is living proof that the US Constitution is no longer understood or studied in the public education system. Therefore, he is at liberty to spew whatever he wishes, and the sheeple will nod in agreement.
Obama dosen’t give press conferences,
he gives lectures.
Obama claims to be a constitutional scholar. He taught constitutional law. How could he not know what the constitution says? I heard him talk about his constitution experience this morning. I don’t get it.
How can Obama get such a differing interpretation of the constitution than other scholars? And then he is allowed to go out there and tell other “students” what it means? How does that happen? Who is correct?
Conservatives see the constitution as liberties. Liberals see the constitution as limits.
If I may, I suggest that Conservatives see the Constitution as the charter of the central government, which the Founders intended to very carefully limit to a few activities, and no others. It is a charter of limitations on government, with the specific provision that all other actions were reserved to the states and people (especially when read in context with the Bill Of Rights).
Statists see the Constitution as an anarchic, rather quaint document that is subject to expansion or contraction to meet societal needs or wants at given periods of time, without any need to resort to the cumbersome machinery of an amendment. It is like a Chinese menu…they may pick from this or that Amendment as seems expedient to them in support of the outcome, while trashing the remainder.
A ConLaw class does not deal with the actual document for more than a few hours. After that, the study is directed at case law interpreting the Constitution, and discussions of what it SHOULD mean, according to the Statists who generally teach in law schools.
Has anyone actually figured out how much actual teaching hours Obama has in the lecture hall? I read somewhere that he has less than a part-time burger flipper.
Contrast that to Biden’s sandbox humor. No comparison.
One a leader…the other a jester.
Rags – I agree with your point, but you’ve got to admit that libs see it as a list of restrictions also. Seems to be in their DNA to want something that is not defined by law….beyond natural law, if you will (ie: gay marriage, anti-life issues, etc.).
Is that not a part of the problem?
Thank God for Dick Cheney. A man!
Certainly. The doctrine of stare decisis “to stand by that which is decided” is a standard of law. It can be a very good, serviceable standard. Generally, it is a rule that prevents every judge from taking a question of law as though it were before them for the first time, and prevents judicial chaos.
In practice, however, it…like a lot of other rules…applies only to those who abide by rules. Statist judges often do not.
Sometimes, overturning a decided question of law is the right thing to do. Sometimes, it is merely legislating from the bench. Roe v. Wade is a terrible example of the latter. Without touching the issue of abortion, Roe was simply awful jurisprudence…or no jurisprudence at all. It was cut from whole cloth, and the reasoning was miserable…even stupid. It found a Constitutional “right” where no such right exists, and would have been inimical to the Founders.
That aside, law students have to study the case law precedents to understand how we arrived where we are…wherever that is. In that way, we can craft a case to use the precedents to our client’s advantage, or understand how our client will be attacked.
But, over time, precedent can cause the meaning of law to drift to the point where the statute on which it was predicated…even including the Constitution…cannot be read and relied upon. The plain meaning of the law is distorted to the point of being unrecognizable.
If you want an example that will make you mourn for your country, research the Commerce Clause. Mark Levin has a very good discussion in his current book.
I did prefer Cheney to anyone else in the administration.
FIFY
Yes, I do play a pretty mean banjo. You, I suspect, are an expert at squealing like a pig.
Dick Cheney said:
One source of great danger is staring us in the face. If Obama moves the Gitmo terrorists to prisons in the US, what’s to stop them from converting other prisoners to their cause?
That has already happened without the aid of Gitmo extremists. The four men arrested for the recent NYC terrorist attack knew each other from prison. And three of the four were introduced to Islam while in prison. My source on that is from MSNBC:
Let’s bring more Muslim extremists into our prisons. What could go wrong?
I love it!
MajorO, I agree with everything you said, except this first statement. I think it’s backwards. It’s not that his incompetence is being blamed on his racial identity, but his racial identity is being used as a cover by the media to ignore his incompetence. I have never before seen so many plates, keychains, coffee mugs, and CDs of speeches for someone who has accomplished nothing other than to be elected President. Perhaps if these hawkers could wait at least until the end of his term (hopefully the only term) to push on us the wonder of Obama, I could accept it. (Of course, by then, America will be unrecognizable, if not a smoking pile of ash, and no one will be interested in or able to afford the trinkets and collections of speeches.) I have never seen Nancy Pelosi plates, or Harry Reid keychains, or collections of Chris Dodd speeches.
In the media, I keep expecting one of them to come out and say, “Isn’t he CUTE? I think he just looked at me…he did!”, etc, etc. The media seem so enchanted by the idea that a (half) black man could accomplish so much. That, to me, is the racist part. Those on this blog who bring up his racial identity are trying to point out this hypocrisy and lax standard for success that translates into a fawning, slobbering media. Conservatives analyze results, liberals count noses.
Obama runs the risk of being patronized to death, and it is intrinsically linked to his being half black. But I think it’s important to recognize that those that mention his incompetence in the same sentence with his racial identity are NOT making a cause and effect statement.
I agree with what you said. It was well put.
Americans are so conditioned on the issue of a person’s race that they seemingly cannot see them for their merit or paucity of merit as an individual. A generalization, of course.
This is not confined to one race, and there are metrics that show that Obama is almost universally approved by African-Americans, who polling shows hold views on many issues that are opposed to THE ONE. These uniquely high popularity numbers for Obama I think are only attributable to his race, and keep his popularity higher than would be the case if he were another race.
I also think that polling in the white population is skewed, with many people reporting their views are more favorable than they actually are. Sort of a combination of guilt and The White Man’s Burden syndrome.
Personally, I’m really ready to leave all this crap behind us. I loved the military as being the closest thing to a meritocracy I have personally ever experienced.
On-my-soap-box said (#117):
None. The “information” produced by torture was bogus. According to FBI sources.
And in typical LGM fashion, he lists NOTHING in the way of sources or links or anything else. We are just supposed to take his word, which has been proven to be nothing more than what comes out of the back end of a donkey who ate bad alfalfa.
If it is nothing, then release the memos. If the birth certificate is nothing, then show us the vaulted bc. If your college transcripts are nothing, then let us see them. Bush showed us his report cards, found out he was a C student, what you hiding their President Shady.
Since when did the people of your ilk pay the slightest bit of attention to anything relating to the FBI?
Rags, thanks. I’m glad I jumped back on this thread and caught your remark. Sorry for the delay in responding.
I appreciate our military so much, and in so many ways. Thank you for your service.