It clears the record a bit.

Eleanor –

You may believe it is cool, speaking-truth-to-power, gets you noticed at cocktail parties…but your blatant anti-Americanism cannot be tolerated. Your firm is in the unique position of molding opinions. Is this the kind of opinion you want to foster, when we are being attacked and threatened in a world war: the war without borders?

There are people who did not recognize the conclusion of the Crusades, and are continuing to fight for a global theocracy. These people obey no rules of civilized behavior. Unless you have been living under a rock, you know this to be true. These people do not read newspapers, op-ed pieces, follow the Gallop polls. They are not driven by US policies, whether under the leadership of Bill Clinton, George (H or HW) Bush, or Barak Obama. These jihadists want to kill us simply because we exist. “Us” includes not just soldiers, but you personally, your family and mine, our children, our parents. Their motivation: “we” are not “them”. Don’t believe me, don’t believe political commentators, research this yourself. This is a vicious enemy, and we are not to blame.

We need to stop blaming ourselves, our politicians, or leaders, past and present. We need to understand the threat. And your company, as a molder of minds, as communicator of ideas, need to stop trying to be popular…you need to be responsible.

While I doubt it will help, I hope it does.

On May 22nd, 2009 at 11:47 am, lgm said:

Did things get any easier for the poor souls trapped in concentration camps in Europe and the South Pacific while Allied forces dropped bombs all around them? I doubt it.

If it isn’t progressive viewing ~ here’s the other “quality” viewing:
UFO’s, Bigfoot sightings, History of Sex…

I’m only keeping cable for FoxNews.

Anyone who believes that the “US regime” was responsible for more than a million Iraqi deaths is either a leftist propagandist or a fool.

And if we’re going to play games like comparing Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima — the underlying assumption being that the US should’ve ceased its war effort after having inflicted 2,400 deaths on the Japanese, in which case we’d have called a unilateral cease-fire some time in early 1942 — why not make an “ad” with a sign that reads,

Pearl Harbor US deaths: 2,403
Operation “Downfall” Japanese deaths: 5-10 million

– For at least this would shed some light on why we elected to use the A-bombs instead of carrying out the planned invasions of Kyushu and Honshu in 1945-46.

But that’s be an exercise in intellectual honesty, and there’s not much of that underpinning cheap-shot anti-Americanism, is there?

Very few programs on these channels are no-partisan anymore…I waych The dog Whisperer due to my love for dogs, every now and then Caesar slips in a left wing comment, not sure he’s proselytizing or not, I don’t think so intentionally.

On May 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm, emjem24 said:

Left-wing historians don’t give a crap about honest discussion of historical trends as long as they can establish their viewpoint as the only mainstream interpretation of history that’s out there.

That can be said of more than history. The left works very hard to dictate correct thoughts about everything.

Economics (capitalism = evil. Communism = fairness. Rich people = evil.)

Weather (global warming = a real thing caused by evil Americans).

Race (White people = evil, oppressive, unfair, evil).

Food (organic = good. Everything else = bad)

Health care (government control = good. Pharmaceutical companies = evil. HMOs = evil.)

Religion (anything goes = good. Christianity = evil oppressive relic of an evil tyrannical white male dominated evil age)

sex (homosexuality = good. abortion = very good. heterosexuality = oppressive, male dominated evil slavery)

Hmmm. Is there a pattern here? I can’t quite make it out.

lgm said:

As for the content, ad#2 is silly, but ads #1 and 3 are at least in spirit accurate. Many Iraqis suffered more during the early years of the occupation than under Saddam. There was much violent ethnic cleansing. “Heckuvajob” Bush incompetence really did get lots of people killed.

This sort of attitude is what now permeates the History field. If the current interpretation doesn’t fit our worldview, let’s revise it and manufacture a new concept.

You, Math Man, have no better an idea of what incorporates history than my former 8th grade students did. History is always evolving and changing and doesn’t happen in a vacuum like you suppose. These ads were mean-spirited and misdirected to suit your (and their) political view. You are a slave to your party’s will and I actually feel sad for you.

Knowledge of history can be freeing but slavish devotion to a PC prism of history can be enslaving. History doesn’t work like that and never will.

If you think that this is just some isolated left-wing incident you need to examine the likes of Howard Zinn and other historians like him who take a revisionist, PC view of history. Left-wing historians don’t give a crap about honest discussion of historical trends as long as they can establish their viewpoint as the only mainstream interpretation of history that’s out there.

You’re really going to have to lose the Bush hatred someday. Then again, even people like you need a scapegoat. Have fun pretending that you know what you’re talking about.

Never anything idiotically anti-American like this of course but still this may have nothing to do with the History Channel at all and is entirely the creation of some misguided ad agency art department, trying to be all “edgy” or “outside-the-box-y” or whatever.

Plus, it looks more like a school project to me rather than a finalized professional campaign. The CLIOs picking up on it though… there’s no excuse for that.

It’s very possible that History Channel/A&E execs may never have even seen this stuff much less approved it.

As for the content, ad#2 is silly, but ads #1 and 3 are at least in spirit accurate. Many Iraqis suffered more during the early years of the occupation than under Saddam. There was much violent ethnic cleansing. “Heckuvajob” Bush incompetence really did get lots of people killed.

About 3 years ago I took some college level history classes. It was interesting to me that the extreme leftist professors felt the need to gloss over certain sections of the textbooks that were so blatantly anti-American (or anti-white people, or anti-Christian or even just anti-common sense) that even they felt uncomfortable with them.

History isn’t written by the winners. It’s written by the writers. For some reason liberalism seems to produce a LOT of writers who think that writing vicious propaganda is an obligation.

I take everything I see on the History Channel with about a pound of salt.

txvet2: You are bringing out long-forgotten memories of cartoons — one I recall from a coffe-table book of the New Yorker magazine cartoons. A fellow sitting at the head table at a dinner turns to the person next to him as the featured speaker blathers on. He says to his tablemate, “Please pass the grain of salt!”

What all three are leaving out is the message that America is a bad place so you should quit trying to get in and immigrate to someplace righteous like maybe Cuba or Iran.

British babies born 2007 named George: 3386
British babies born 2007 named Mohammed: 5991

The Marxists and the Muslims are working together against both the U.K. and the U.S.

You are absolutely right. However, they didn’t have to work so hard with the Brits. The UK actually wanted this (at least Labour did).