Why is the Obama Justice Department protecting New Black Panthers?

Last week, I called the Justice Department to inquire about an unusual decision they made to dismiss default judgements in a voter intimidation lawsuit the government filed under the Bush administration against the New Black Panther Party.
You remember the case of the menacing NBPP thugs who threatened voters at a Philly precinct. I blogged about it many times since the fall.
The Bush DOJ filed suit against Malik Shabazz and two of the local NBPP radicals who were on site — one with a billy club. None of them filed an answer to the lawsuit, putting them all into default. I am told this is the easiest way to win a lawsuit. But instead of taking the default judgment that DOJ is entitled to against all of the defendants, the department last week dismissed the lawsuit against two out of the three defendants. As Election Journal (which broke the story with exclusive video of the intimidation) notes, one of the individual defendants who was dismissed, Jerry Jackson, “is an elected member of the Philadelphia Democratic Committee and was a credentialed poll watcher.”
According to a legal source familiar with DOJ procedures, dismissing a lawsuit won by default is unheard of.
I contacted one of the DOJ lawyers, Spencer Fisher, who signed his name to the voluntary dismissal order. He referred me to Public Affairs. Spokesman Alejandro Miyar told me that the DOJ dropped the cases against Jackson nutball Malik Shabazz “after careful review.” I asked what new evidence caused the Obama DOJ to make such an unprecedented move. He said he “wasn’t a lawyer” and would try and find out. Good luck with that.
Meantime, the DOJ is apparently bracing for closer scrutiny of the case. Miyar said he was preparing to release a statement to “national media outlets.” Watch how they spin.
***
Flashback:
***
Here’s the text of the order:
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
)
Plaintiff, )
)
v. ) Civil Action No. 2:09-cv-0065
)
)
NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY )
FOR SELF-DEFENSE, an )
unincorporated association, MALIK ZULU )
SHABAZZ, MINISTER KING SAMIR )
SHABAZZ aka MAURICE HEATH, and )
JERRY JACKSON, )
)
Defendants. )
RULE 41(a)(1)(A) NOTICE OF DISMISSAL
NOW COMES the Plaintiff, the United States, pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 41(a)(1)(A) and files this Notice of Dismissal of the above action and states as follows:
1. The Defendants New Black Panther Party for Self Defense, Malik Zulu Shabazz, and Jerry Jackson have not filed an answer or motion for summary judgment. These same Defendants have made no appearance and have filed no pleadings with the Court. Nor have they otherwise raised any other defenses to this action. Therefore, the United State has the right under Fed. R. Civ. P. 41(a)(1)(A) to dismiss voluntarily this action against the Defendants: New Black Panther Party for Self Defense, Malik Zulu Shabazz, and Jerry Jackson.
2. The United States dismisses the claims against these Defendants without prejudice.
3. This dismissal does not extend to Defendant Minister King Samir Shabazz.
Case 2:09-cv-00065-SD Document 17 Filed 05/15/2009 Page 1 of 2
WHEREFORE, the United States, pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 41(a)(1)(A), files this voluntary dismissal and hereby dismisses the instant action against the Defendants New Black Panther Party for Self Defense, Malik Zulu Shabazz, and Jerry Jackson, without prejudice.
Respectfully submitted,
LORETTA KING
Acting Assistant Attorney General
CHRISTOPHER COATES
Chief, Voting Section
ROBERT D. POPPER
Deputy Chief
s/ Spencer R. Fisher
J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS
SPENCER R. FISHER
Attorneys
United States Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Voting Section
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
NWB – Room 7146
Washington, D.C. 20006
202-305-0015 phone
202-307-3961 fax
spencer.fisher@usdoj.gov
- 2 –
Case 2:09-cv-00065-SD Document 17 Filed 05/15/2009 Page 2 of 2
***
Background:
Obama’s civilian security force: Billy club-wielding security guards at Philly polls
Meet Philly’s New Black Panther Party leader
See what others have said
Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with my terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege.
Trackbacks
- Barack Obama’s DOJ Protecting Black Panthers? « The Harrington Report
- Actually, Mancow proves that waterboarding ISN’T torture « Jim Blazsik
- The TIW Blog » Blog Archive » Obama regime protecting New Black Panthers!
- Obama DOJ - now dismissing lawsuit won by default against the Black Panthers | Vote at your ask risk from now on | Fire Andrea Mitchell!
- Fort Wayne News
- Remember These Assholes? Why is the Obama Justice Department protecting New Black Panthers?
- Obama Justice Department Drops Charges Against Polling S’kurity | Your Politics Are Boring
- Open Up Your Eyes! « Guided by Stillwater
- The Saloon dot net
- Around the Web « Calvin Freiburger Online
- Michelle Malkin » Why is the bObama/b Justice Department protecting b…/b | Barack Obama News
- Obama administration Protecting Black Panthers That Wielded Weapons, Blocked Polls – Video « Goodtimepolitics
- Obama administrations love affair with the New Black Panthers - INGunOwners
- Hot Air » Blog Archive » Who pressured Justice to drop case against voter intimidation in Philly?
- Obama Justice Department Winks at Racist Voter Intimidation | OpenMarket.org
- Black Panther Voter Intimidation: Black Panthers DOJ Protection » Right Pundits
- Michelle Malkin » Document drop: Witness affidavit in NBPP voter bullying case
- Case against nightstick wielding “poll watchers” closed | Radio Vice Online
- ACORN Is A Criminal Enterprise « Nice Deb
- Why Would The DOJ Dismiss The Charges Against The New Black Panthers? « Nice Deb
- Is Voter Intimidation Story Being Ignored? Why is Justice Department Not Prosecuting the Black Panthers? | THE WEEKLY POINT
- The Obama Justice Department’s disturbing record on Civil Rights : Urbin Report
- The Obama Justice Dept’s ‘Black Panthergate’ | Obama Exposure
- Change You Can Believe In … Barack Obama’s DOJ Drops Black Panther Voter Intimigation Case | Scared Monkeys
- The Assault on Freedom Continues | Adam's Blog
- The Assault on Freedom Continues - adamsweb’s blog - RedState
- F3 Coalition - [Faith. Family. Freedom.] » Blog Archive » The Assault on Freedom Continues
- race42008.com » Blog Archive » Podcast: The Assault on Freedom Continues
- Tel-Chai Nation
- Rhymes With Right
- The Political Fish » Black Panthers get a wink and a smile from the DOJ
- Voter intimidation gets thumbs up… « America, You Asked For It!
- Celebrity Paycut - Encouraging celebrities all over the world to save us from global warming by taking a paycut.
- Weekend Download - May 29 through May 31 | Daily Danet
- Obama DOJ Drops Voter Intimidation Suit Against New Black Panthers « Quipster
- fiery dog » Social Justice & Empathy for Most
- Race-Baiting Growing with Democrat Government Leaders « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- The New Black Panther Party–Obama’s American Gestapo? « Pronk Palisades
- Obama Justice Department Protects Racist, Anti-Semitic Hate Group and Anti-White Voting Rights Violators | OpenMarket.org
- Steynian 360 « Free Canuckistan!
- Michelle Malkin » The U.S. Department of Injustice
- Who is Protecting Us? « Write Wing Politics (c) 2008-09
- Target Rich Environment » Blog Archive » Obama DOJ Priorities Becoming Clearer
- Countdown Spoof: Keith ‘You’ve Sunk Your Own Ship’ Olbermann Calls New PJTV Commentator Steven Crowder a Racist for His Opinion of Sotomayor « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Received in an Email , An Ol’ Broad’s Ramblings
- Received in an Email , An Ol’ Broad’s Ramblings
- Government health-care: you’re gonna get it, like it or not | Cold Fury
- iran reelects delusional anti-semite; obama “excited” « a nation gone under
- Obama's Justice Departments Justice; It's a farce!
- Michelle Malkin » The New Black Panther Party’s teachable moments on race
- New Black Panthers Enjoy Their Freedom « Speaking My Mind
- The thought police | PoliticalDerby.com
- The thought police « Scott’s Slant on Politics
Comments
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Categories: Race Hustlers
Power Line
» More From the East Anglia Archives
Founding Bloggers
» Did The New York Times Just Tell Glenn Reynolds To “STFU”?
Doug Ross @ Journal
» BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Boston Globe Climate Beclownment Spectacular
Doug Ross @ Journal
» 'Hope is fading fast' --- the T-Shirt
Radio Equalizer
» Media Matters Admits Rush Didn't Make Key Racist Remarks
Doug Ross @ Journal
» The CRU Climate Scam In 90 Seconds
Hot Air
» 3rd quarter GDP 2.8%, not 3.5%
Mudville Gazette
» Threatswatch: US Embassy Denies Secret Eikenberry Talks With Taliban












The New Black Panthers are the cadre for the resurrection of Obama’s contemporary Sturm Abteilung (SA) or Brownshirts . . . it’s beginning.
Hi Michelle,
Hey, maybe it’s just something on my end, but I think the link that reads
“Black Panther Intimidation…” line-wraps and is making the display of the entire content here a bit mal-formatted.
…Just FYI.
On May 28th, 2009 at 11:37 am, PhredE said:
Me too. On Firefox here.
Laura Ingraham,
She (Sotomayer) has the right probably political out look for them, and so her personal story is going to be highlighted, and sold, and resold, and retold, and she is going to be an inspiration to Latinas and Latinos. And yet Justice Thomas, and Justice Miguel Estrada, weren’t any such inspiration so they were fair game for ridicule and disparagement.
Just more ChicagObama thug thizzlin. But hey, I hear the White House
press corpswater carriers will get ten laughs out of it today.Haven’t you heard? Voter suppression and disenfranchisement is perfectly acceptable and legal if it’s done against conservatives and the military. If it’s done against libs, it’s purely racist!
ok, i think i fixed the problem. let me know if formatting still looks bad after refreshing browser/clearing cache.
Firefox here also.
Cache cleared, net connection closed and re-opened and all is well.
Thanks MM.
Just thugs protecting thugs – it’s the Chicago way!
The voting experience for White people must be diminished in favor of “smart” latinos and blacks.
I’m assuming that’s a rhetorical question.
We all know why it was dropped.
Now here is a question for the Liberals and Democrats:
Are they going to make sure they keep the black vote from being suppressed in California the next time Gay Marriage appears on the ballot? Especially since Daily Kos is advocating suppressing the Black Vote?
Just one more example of the blatant racism rampant in the Democrats.
Shabazz is one hell of a scary, brainwashed thug. His followers are so filled with racist hate that it is a wonder they are not all on High Bloodpressure meds.
Had any other organization done what they did during the election, they would have been arrested on the spot. However, fear is what more than likely kept these criminals from being arrested that day, and dropping off Obama Favoritism is what is keeping Shabazz from prison now.
After all, why prosecute and inprison someone for doing exactly what they were asked to do? Why else do you think they never even bothered to answer in the first place?
I don’t see how anyone in the justice dept. can look at armed, uniformed thugs making a show of force at a polling place and not be alarmed. These are not peace officers but partisan bullyboys.
This is the face of fascism.
Apparently “doing their thug thizzle” is now an acceptable legal defense.
Legally, I don’t get it. Unless the DOJ had just been totally wrong in naming the individuals…hardly likely…they had no business dismissing.
I take some small comfort from the fact that these dismissals are “without prejudice”…meaning the cases can be brought again.
Anyone recognize the guy over Shabazz’s right shoulder?
Well I’ll answer it anyway: It’s OK for the Brothers to intimidate people, as long as they “deserve” it.
When it comes to justice in this country, the operative guidance for Hope-a-Dope’s Justice Department is,
“What Would Hugo Do?”
So, when can we expect the rest of the ACORN lawsuits to be dismissed?
You gotta wonder if Obama has Chavez programed into his speed dial.
Yep, street thugs through and through-from Rahm “Dead Fish” Emmanuel to God Damn America Wright to William Ayres and the Sal
LewinskyAlinsky thugs and ACORN President Hussein surrounds himself with thugs.When the Latina Queen of the Bronx Sonia Sotomayor goes on one of her rants President Hussein feels as if he is in church.“The DOJ is apparently bracing for closer scrutiny of the case” It took me too many years to realize it but honest people do not work for the Department of Justice–Ruby Ridge/Johnny Sutton of Ramos and Compean shame? No honest person would be involved anymore than an honest man would would join the Aryan Nation, Cripts or Latin Kings.
There is only one way to find out if the New Black Panthers, ACORN and the Emmanuel boys of Chicago are really as tough as they think they are: Pray for the day and be prepared. New Black Panthers would make a fine core group for President Hussein’s Civilian Security Services. We shall see.
Any reporters out there with the ‘nads to ask PBO about this at his next press conference?
Don’t bother answering.
If that’s the way we have to vote in this country, than the club toting Panthers will have to be introduced to Mr. 9mm.
Why is Duh One protecting them?
Well DUUUUUUH! He’s helping those who helped get him elected!
This case had to be dismissed–anything else would have been considered Raaaaaaacist.
How long before our elections start looking like Zimbabwe’s? Our elections have been peaceful because the people have been confident that they were fairly conducted. Now, with ACORN registering Mickey Mouse, New York yuppies travelling to Ohio to vote, same-day register and mail-in voting, campaign finance laws flouted, and thugs intimidating voters at the polls, we’re rapidly sliding toward election mayhem.
But brandishing a deadly weapon (a club) at a polling place won’t fly really well in states with pistol carry laws…
They can, of course, attempt to disarm us. That will be the most widely disobeyed set of laws in our history.
And my buddy Mr. 12 ga.
Teleprompter doesn’t allow this kind of question.
I have asked, without an answer yet, my county election supervisor to mimic the Iraqi elections and require all voters to dip their finger into ink after they vote. I think that will put a crimp into ACORN’s plans by making it harder to commit fraud at the polling place. Maybe folks out there should ask their election supervisors to do the same thing.
Be safe and well.
If legal justice doesn’t work against crooks then I suppose a little public justice should suffice. Too bad that Malik scumbag isn’t in my neighborhood.
Another example of our government being at war against its citizens.
Sound good, I’ll have to run it by Mr. .357M (upgraded this year).
The way Democrats have blocked so many judicial nominations by Republicans, Republicans rolling over on Leftist nominations, ACORN in charge of the census, McCain-Feingold managed by Obaminites and Slick Eric at Justice I do wonder and worry: do we have one more honest election in our future? The push to register illegal aliens and convicted felons adds to my worry as do the club wielding boys club.
—
Let your sidearm be like MasterCard: DON’T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT.
And if you live in a sissy state that won’t let you carry move to one that will–we need you.
chap? chap? chap? Funny how our resident legal expert avoids broaching any opinion on this thread. chap, you can still spin this and show us how it was all Bush’s fault for Malik (my brain is scheiss)Shabazzz protecting the poor minority precints and wrongly chrged by the BUSH DOJ.
where is Judicial Watch on this one??
Birds of a feather?
In the run up to the election a lot of the PUMA blogs (Hill supporters) were posting stories of NBP types turning Hill supporters away from the primary vote by intimidation tactics.
who heads doj now?
Does anyone know if Pennsylvania filed charges against them? That is where the charges should come from, not the feds.
Brown shirts/black shirts…
BHO must be arrested, tried, and convicted for collusion and conspiracy to interfere with the voting process.
BHO has again arrogantly put himself before the good of our nation. He is bereft morals, conscience and rational behavior. Said simply he is a sociopath, and unfit for leadership in any capacity.
The time to cast BHO out is NOW.
Forgot blind justice. It’s absolutely not blind. It is now selective justice.
Sooner or later the Chicago style thuggery we see from the Obama administration is going to smack the drooling lap dog media right square in the face. One of them will ask the wrong question or wander into an unwanted area and will be made an offer they can’t refuse.
Fo’ shizzle!
Like I have said many times before, THERE ARE NO ELECTION LAWS AND KATIE BAR THE DOOR IN FUTURE ELECTIONS..Everyone who is counting on the 2010 elections needs to understand they will all be tainted. How else are the thugs going to stay in office. If you are looking for corruption look first at the polling station in any election. The laws of this country no longer matter. Acorn and the nBPP will make sure that you vote for the right person. Anyways why would Obama want to go after the NBBP..they financially put him through college.
I think we need to show up in 2010 elections in fatigues and batons.
It appears that this is another case where the Obama Administration has been caught with their thumb on the scales of justice. But does this really surprise anyone when the man in charge believes “empathy” is more important than impartiality in interpreting the law?
We now know in Obamaland that the judgement of a “Latina woman” is superior to that of a White male. However, I’m still unclear as to who trumps whom when it comes to other matchups like, for example, a Latina vs. a Native American woman or a Black male vs. an Asian woman. Can someone please draw me up a chart?
I really think a judicial handycap chart could come in handy. It would make it possible to know ahead of time who’s going to win in front of the Supreme Court in a case like, say, Malkin vs. Shabazz.
Does it count to have empathy for defenceless, unborn children? I suspect not because that would put you in the same category as someone who has empathy for white males – the category of anti-woman bigot.
So the DOJ becomes the Sipo and the NBPP becomes the Gestapo. Watching history repeat itself…one grain of sand at a time…
They have compelling life stories.
As with the ObamACORN story that was buried by NYT, I’ll not be holding my breath waiting for the MSM to investigate this suspicious move by DOJ. Just like Chicago, Philly is a pay-for-play political-machine city.
I think he’s out looking for a job. Looks like he got caught spending his days posting on M/M instead of doing what he was paid for.
I was wondering why the name “LORETTA KING” jumped out at me as familiar.
Did a quick search and confirmed: this was the tool that initiated an investigation into Sheriff Arpaio’s immigration enforcement as “illegal racial profiling”
Unfortunate, but likely true. You can bet that the donks’ equivalent to a “brain trust” already knows that unless they can rig the results in advance they’re going to lose at least one house of Congress in 2010 and the White House in 2012.
Just like you can also bet that they’re acting on this knowledge.
The donk media are still playing “Royal Escort” to the Naked Emperor, trying to shield him from prying eyes while attempting to destroy anyone who dares to point out that there’s something not right about his “new clothes.”
But eventually the electorate is going to figure out just what a collection of donk phonies, frauds, liars and criminals they let slip by; and when that happens, the donk media will shift into “All the King’s Horses and All the King’s Men” mode, trying to keep Humpty Hopenchange in one piece long enough to get past 2012.
It won’t work, though. There aren’t enough donks and other stupid Americans to pull it off legally. That’s why they’re going to have to cheat on a wholesale level in the upcoming midterm and presidential elections.
Count on it like you count on the sun to rise in the east tomorrow morning. It’s coming.
Here in Maine, you can register to vote at the polling places and you only need an electric bill or something similar with a name and local address. It takes more id than that to get a driver’s license.
Corruption at the polling stations? Already happening.
Seriously, despite their best efforts, what have they ever accomplished?
Well fair is fair right? What do you think Dodomayor is all about? Reverse racism.
I came across this article when I did a search of: Eric Holder – ACORN.
From the article:
“Founded on the Cloward/Piven Strategy, the goal of ACORN is the destruction of capitalism through the creation of chaos to overwhelm the system. Fresh off the heels of their stunning success in intimidating banks into offering bad loans, and of nearly destroying the welfare system of New York City by flooding the rolls with new recipients, they have moved on to the voting process.”
Why is the Obama Justice Department protect the new racist party? Becuase they are to be the core of the new civilian national security force.
If there ever is such a thing, I hope they are the core. Pretty unimpressive as a “security force.”
Regulus says;
It won’t work, though. There aren’t enough donks and other stupid Americans to pull it off legally. That’s why they’re going to have to cheat on a wholesale level in the upcoming midterm and presidential elections.
Thats what I thought in the last election but they won anyways.
Acorn steps one foot on my property… I will be going to jail for a long time.
YA’ll better be getting your carry permits soon! or maybe just carry. I am sure you will get the book thrown at you if you are caught without a permit and you will go to jail..nothing like having a night stick in front of a polling place. I wanna know when the word is giving on reverse racism. I am pretty sure we won’t know until your neighbors are shot dead in their beds or somehow disappear in the night.
“I drained three phasers and they still came”
What? Are we living in Haiti now? Who the %!$#@ are these creatures running the country?
LOL. Clearly a rhetorical question. Liberals and Conservatives alike all know the answer to that one.
I’m thinking this is Eric Holder’s mindset:
They’re members of a disenfranchised minority who have had their rights violated since birth so how can you expect them to respond to a legal action against them? It’s not their fault they don’t know what to do, and if anything, we should be paying them reparations for their lifetime of pain and suffering under Amerika KKK.
We clearly are living in a Banana Repulbic run by a Fascist Dictator because everyone is too afraid to have him answer some serious constitutional questions about his latest programs.
I have one for him. When did you become a natural born citizen and when can we see your college transcipts?
Where and When did you legally change your name from Barry Soetoro to BHO?
That question is rhetorical.. Right???
I have a flattop and I’m not exactly small. ( Typical Construction worker ).I wonder what would happen if I went to the polls here in PA and stood there with a Billy Club. I think I might try it in 2010. Soon to be on YouTube..PS I’m a WHITE GUY.
Have a tooth-brush and bail money in hand…
It just occurred to me that the New Black Panther Party is a radical, Neo-Islamic Organization, that works for the overthrow of the United States government, espouses violence against the white population, and are racist to the extreme. Having said that, then why have they not been declared a “terrorist organization?”
What other criteria do they have to meet (other than committing and claiming a bombing or two), in order to be relegated to the list? The name of their group, their militaristic garb, and gang-style approach to confrontation is designed to evoke terror, is it not? Curious.
Are you kidding me? Since 2000 our elections have been on par with Zimbabwe’s…only they were successful after 2004 and continuing.
When is Jimmah going to start monitoring our own elections?
Oh, and as far as Mr. Racist Shabazzzzzz, now does anyone wonder how Murtha was re-elected?
Get a video first of the nearest nBPP protection detail at the local polling place.
Your defense could be that you thought it was just normal to vote that way.
I remember when Michelle was sitting in for O’reilly some time ago and this POS Shabazz was a guest for some reason. Long story short he ended up during the interview calling her a whore for the right.
She put him in his place as only she can! Shame she didn’t have some burly security person to subdue him properly. Although I have to admit her put down of him was almost as good!
He is nothing but a race hustler and rabble rouser.
Nice correlation to Zimbabwe, especially since The One and his minions are driving the economy in a way that our inflation rate will soon rival theirs.
It’s really not fair to compare our situation to Zimbabwe. Mugabe didn’t become completely insane until the last decade or so.
Blue Lips has been a looser right out of the gate. I can’t think of another head of state in recent history that has screwed up a perfectly good country so quickly and efficiently. (Carter comes to mind but I don’t think he was so foolish so quickly). Change you can believe in my foot..
Rags, we don’t let folks bring toothbrushes in jail nowadays. Too easy to make a weapon out of them.
Sparky, you just need to bring a good lawyer and a friend with a video camera – oh yes, and bail money, lots of bail money.
Thugs stick together!
Jus heppin’ da bruthas!
I would call this a breach of justice and a serious oversight of criminal activity. The DOJ is responsible to the people, not a radical organization and its representatives.
Look I’m not advocating violence, so keep that in mind with what I say next. This is a call to war. This is a blatant slap in the face by the Obama administration to all those who believe in the rule of law. He is supporting homegrown terrorists (and that’s what voter intimidation is) for political gain and doesn’t care what people think about it. He truly believes we are beneath him and that he is above the law. That is a declaration of war. He has betrayed us. He has betrayed the constitution. He has betrayed his presidential oath. We have a traitor at the reins. So we should make war. The means and methods should be determined by principles and necessity, but should be as peaceful as possible. But they must also be effective and so far our efforts seem to have had little effect in halting the advance of the totalitarian government. We must change and adapt to the realities around us and win this war.
maybe these two idiots pretending to be bad asses, I know I’m impressed. were buddies of zero’s in college. affirmative action made it possible for even the very truly stupid to attend places like harvard and yale.
I apologize if someone already said this and I missed it:
Q: Why is the Obama Justice Department protecting the New Black Panthers?
A: Because Eric Holder is a “COWARD”.
We ought to start calling him the “Coward General”.
These idiots are perfect for this web site – they have black skin and look menacing – you “not an ounce of bigorty in you” people must love this image?