White House pushing to gag stimulus critics
Caution: Obama gangland tactics at work.
In keeping with his past campaign tactics to shut critics up through brute force, the White House appears to be taking steps to crack down on critics of the trillion-dollar porkulus law.
Is anyone surprised? Mark Tapscott at the Examiner reports:
A new White House policy on permissible lobbying on economic recovery and stimulus project has taken a decidedly anti-First Amendment turn. It’s a classic illustration of Big Government trying to control every aspect of a particular activity and in the process running up against civil liberty.
Check out this passage from a post on the White House blog by Norm Eisen, Special Counsel to the President on Ethics and Government Reform (emphasis added):
“First, we will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registered lobbyists. For the first time, we will reach contacts not only by registered lobbyists but also by unregistered ones, as well as anyone else exerting influence on the process. We concluded this was necessary under the unique circumstances of the stimulus program.
Writes Tapscott:
The key passage is the reference to expanding regulation from registered lobbyists to “anyone else exerting influence on the process. We concluded this was necessary under the unique circumstances of the stimulus program.”
This is the Camel’s nose under the tent…
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Too little too late, Obama. There’s a storm a brewin’
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Possibly this why we need an INTERNET CZAR to shut down any criticism or analysis of the (lack) of results on the government “economic improvement” spending.
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Michelle Malkin and Rush Limbaugh should put some vaseline on their lips and typing fingers. This will prevent the government duct tape from sticking!
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Remember–JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE PARANOID DOESN’T MEAN THAT THEY AREN’T OUT TO GET YOU!
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John Bibb
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Hope and Change for fascists, eh Obama?
I’d love to see the lefties on this site defend the above…or will they just be silent as usual?
Patent thuggery.
In only five months there is a stench covering this land from sea to sea like we have never seen before. No one can criticize his stimulus package, no one can criticize his pick fot the SCOTUS, in fact you are a racist if you criticize anything the Great One does.This Marxist must go!
As usual, I expect those who voted for Obama will never hear of this. The MSM will never pick it up and run with it. I’m tired of our freedoms eroding away and under this administration they are being obliterated.
Fixed that quote for you.
To paraphrase Duh One:
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Be afraid Be very afraid.
If I remember my history correctly, this is how the Bolsheviks did it, also. They shouted down, talked over, or simply “removed” any objectors from the conversation. Gulags came later.
Hitler’s way was far less subtitle: Use children as spies, and citizens fear to rat out those who think independently, then send them off to “re-education” camps, where few survived.
Where are our leftist champions of free speech and open government?
All I hear are the well-known crickets…
Whatever the justification and however it is formulated and phrased, it always comes out the same way: “You are now ruled by a black man, so shut your mouth, cracker.”
This is an act of desperation. They had figured that with the GOP folding its own tent and joining up with the Dems, they would no longer face opposition. Then, having no Republicans to attack, they decided to attack Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and unspecified “bloggers”.
We are very close to the actual battle line with this entrenched criminal class of politicians. On issue after issue, it turns out that conservatives are voicing the views of the majority of citizens. Now that both parties are at war with us, they can’t frame it as a war against the majority of citizens.
This is a sign that they are running out of fig leaves and so, out of desperation, they are throwing their hands up and shouting “Shut up! Just shut up! Everybody shut up! Who’s in charge here anyway!?!”
Have y’all seen this. Nice. We’re getting schooled by a Russian. How long is it going to take!
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/
Very GOOD Reading… I think this fits right in here :
http://patdollard.com/2009/05/pravda-americas-descent-into-marxism-happening-with-breathtaking-speed-the-proud-american-will-go-down-into-his-slavery-without-a-fight/
Elections have consequences.
LiMa…LOL, guess WE understand whats happening
Not sure what the following from the quoted passage means, ” . . . we will reach contacts . . . ”
It does not sound quite grammatically correct. If the word “reach” were replaced by “restrict” it would make more sense.
Moreover, is this addressing White House and Administration employees, or people who are asking questions, and lobbying? And, is the BLOG post a response to a specific question? What is that question?
Since there is not a link, I will have to find it and attempt to post it here so that we will all have a better understanding of what was said.
Getting the critics to shut up won’t make his plan work. Over spending and bailouts will not cure overspending. Our economy doesn’t work that way. The more BHO does, the less he will get, until the overspending causes a bigger problem than he tried to fix. The truth is that he never intended to fix anything. He just wanted to implement the progressive agenda, regardless of the consequences. Ultimately, he will pay dearly for this.
Rambler… Obama is just doing what his teachers taught him. HE DOES NOT CARE.
We, The People will and ARE paying for this!
As each day passes, I see the stars and stripes being replaced with the red star flag.
I don’t quite get it either. It sounds like they are restricting communication about the spendulus from oral to written, and that the written will be made public? How does that enable the WH to hurt their enemies any more than they do now?
Corporatism is a feature of fascist economics. BIG business and BIG labor have historically be HAPPY to join in the game, because government power exempts them from the normal forces of market competition.
The number of lobbyists in Washington has EXPLODED as the slush fund we call the “stimulus package” was instituted. THE ONE is not the least interested in limiting their influence on government. In fact, the opposite is true.
Instead of competitors, he wants supplicants, scrambling for their tit on the government sow.
I hereby declare that I am against; critical of and in opposition to the federal stimulus package and the policies of President Obama as they relate to the economy.
Signed,
Casey Klahn
Davenport, WA
This is about lobbying, not freedom of speech. It’s about ethics in funds allocation. Read the plain language. The first amendment does not grant citizens unlimited access to government officials.
Absolutely correct.
I read that Pravda piece yesterday. Man, when the Russians scold you on a descent into Marxism, you know things are bad.
And there are still 18 months to go, at least, for Obama, Reid and Pelosi to do their damage. And you know, from his “you ain’t seen nothing yet” phrase, he is determined to force his ideas onto us. And far too many voters seem more than willing to go along.
And your evidence that funds are being ethically allocated is what…EXACTLY…???
What evidence…not BS declarations by THE ONE…is there that ANY stimulus funds have been spent economically?
lgm,
look again:
And the First Amendment, as well as the rest of the Constitution, is a restriction ON THE GOVERNMENT, NOT INDIVIDUALS.
OK, here is the link to the referenced paragraph. Read in it’s entirety “gag” is not my first thought.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Update-on-Recovery-Act-Lobbying-Rules-New-Limits-on-Special-Interest-Influence/
From the above link is the following, “Third, we will continue to require immediate internet disclosure of all other communications with registered lobbyists. If registered lobbyists have conversations or meetings before an application is filed, a form must be completed and posted to each agency’s website documenting the contact.”
Cherry picking notwithstanding, we are all better served in reading and completely understanding everything said in it’s entirety.
The BLOG is mischaracterized when it is suggested that it calls for ‘gagging’. The BLOG says that not only will registered lobbyists have requirements to submit communications in writing, but that every one will be required to submit communications in writing. Why? So that those communications can be posted on the internet.
No one is being gagged. Registered Lobbyist and (now) others will still be able to communicate with Agencies in regard to Recovery Act Funds. Everyone will just have to do it writing.
I suppose this is part of the attempt of the Obama Administration to become more transparent. We will see if it works.
zero and his band of idiots trying to stop critics from letting everyone know what their game is. zero you and all the garbage running your administration can’t stop the people from talking, even that moron who tries to act tough in front of the media every day, I can see he has the whole country terrified. liberals are not known for their courage so stop the charade. people are already getting tired of you and your very obvious lack of leadership.
I love this statement! I want to make it my quote of the week, with your permission.
Let’s see if the ACLU can put “Civil Liberties” back into their mantra instead of only what is considered a liberal civil liberty.
They spend more time worrying about a 75 year old Christian emblem in a city’s coat of arms plaque then they worry about the real civil liberties that are at stake. What hypocrites (forgive me for stating the obvious).
And, when the WH Press Secretary and others in the administration caution everyone to “be very very careful” in your criticizm of Obambi’s pick for SCOTUS…that is not stifling freedom of speech by intimidation?? LGM, you are on the wrong side of history and you are about to get a reality check!
On May 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am, lgm said:
Speaking of lobbying, “Roll Call” suggests Obama is backing off some of the restrictions that were only recently placed on lobbyists.
So much for transparency and restricting lobbyists’ influence on legislation -
The only population more represented in THE ONE’s cabinet than tax cheats…
ARE lobbyists.
Just a reminder, because you lefties seem to have forgotten…THEY WORK FOR US!! They are not in some big protected bubble in DC. They were elected by the people and the people can kick them out on their fat, corrupted a$$es!
Hate to break this to you, but the Bolsheviks practiced this too..in fact the Bolsheviks believed that children should be taken away as soon as possible to be raised in communes.
Well good people we can be justified indeed in Being Afraid Being Very Afraid. But in these unique circumstances, as the Fascist say, we are REQUIRED to Be Prepared, Be Very Prepared.
For generations now the Progressive-Fascist-Statist has been chipping away at our individual rights in the name of some communal Group Think and now they are ready for the coup de grâce to end our misery of Constitutional Government. And it does not matter to the Progressive-Fascist-Statist how many of us they have to kill to be merciful.Their models are more Stalin and Mao than Madison and Adams.
Perhaps if the American people were willing to submit to the Fascist McCain-Feingold limits on Free Speech they will willingly submit to these restrictions due to the unique circumstances.
And when the Special State Security Services come through your door what will you do? Will you submit in the name of unique circumstances or remember your heritage? The choice is yours.
So now “..petitioning to redress grievances” from the first amendment is lobbying?
LGM, You fascist stooge.
The real core of the problem concerning lobbyists is that they exist at all. The lobbyists exist solely in order to direct the power of the government to favor their client or hurt their client’s enemy. This is because the federal government has become so powerful and intrusive that it is bound to create the need for lobbyists. A very unholy alliance.
If the government were small, as originally intended, lobbyists would be irrelevant.
Freedom will not be silenced.
Sure thing happyscrapper
Respectfully, I have to disagree. Some lobbyists are experts in a field of science or technology. They serve a VERY useful purpose in trying to educate legislators, who tend to be ignorant of science, business, economics, etc., etc., etc.
The NRA, for instance, is a decidedly lobbying organization. THEY actually read bills, and find the hidden pearls of abuse DESIGNED to be obscured in many bills.
And the Right of the People to Petition their Government will be restricted and/or banned by the use of clever words by clever, but dishonest, thugs. No thanks.
My Heritage is more the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers than Das Kapital, Mein Kampf or Rules for Radicals.
Don’t dare criticize the ROTUS (Ruler of the United States) but shut your pie hole when he uses GW Bush as his excuse for his monumental failures and for foreign leaders like Kim Jong Ill walking all over him.
Dah, comrade!
*They can expect a lot more exerting of influence come 2010; Elections have consequences, but so do the actions of P-BO and his Clown Cluster in trying to usher in socialism; We are not going there!!; Many of both parties will be shown the door in 2010, although those same many and others will do their typical spin/lie/duck/cover to save their asses; It will take time and effort, but the tide will turn.
*Remember, Socialism knows no God but Government!
Thanks! You do realize, don’t you, that your statement is a perfect slogan for the “tea parties”. THERE IS A STORM A’BREWIN’. A good statement that describes all the grass roots movements starting up everywhere across the country. By the way, I am proud to be able to say that Thomas Paine is in my family ancestry.
So if I went to the Wreckovery.gov site and submitted a complaint of stimulus pork being mis-used, I could get a visit by Shabazz’s thugs?
Perhaps someone using Photoshop could illustrate this well.
Rags, Yes, they can serve a useful purpose. However, even with the NRA, that purpose is to prevent the power of the government from hurting their clients, the gun owners of America. The power of the government makes these lobbyists necessary, even the “good” lobbyists.
Also, the lobbyists that are the experts are there to shape laws, either for their clients or to hurt their client’s enemies. (The government can always call on the experts to give information in committees.)
It all gets back to the size and power of the government. It is too big, too intrusive. Unfortunately, we all know the direction it is going.
We may be speaking past each other, though. As long as the government exists in its present form, lobbyists will exist, and “good” lobbyist will be necessary.
This whole disclosure on the internet thing has been working out pretty well for him hasn’t it?
(Happyscrapper)..speaking of Tea Parties. Since gov’t spending has been the main focus of the TPs, would they be restricted (oh, I mean ‘reached’) too?
Emphatically, I agree.
As I have said here before, as well, it also leads…inevitably…to a Balkinization of the American people. Federalism allows for the expression of the people in the states, which might be at polar opposites, without imposing the expression of one view or another on the entire nation. Statism forces us all into a blood-struggle for all the marbles.
Concentrated power is the reason for so many of the structural problems I have alluded to so many times before…problems that cannot be remedied by an election of new blood into the same system.
If we feed new meat into the machine, it will simply grind it up, as we have seen over the decades now.
Rags – Very well said!
LOL
President Obama: NO!
That would be the Black Ruler for the Crackers.
Takeaway quote: “You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker.”
Doesn’t ot give you the warm fuzzies to be in Post Racial America?
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Let your sidearm be like MasterCard: DON’T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT.
And if you live in a sissy state that won’t let you carry move to one that will–we need you.
Soetoro/Obama has requested that the Census be relocated to the control of the White House and not the Commerce Dept. Do you know WHY?
He would like ACORN and its “Volunteers” to help with the 2010 Census. The reason for this is easy to see… Its a POLITICAL TAKEOVER!!!
By having ACORN doing the counting in the RED STATES, they can EASILY MANIPULATE the numbers for Re-Districting. When the Dems have a “Majority” of the Districts, thier is NO STOPPING THEM!
This plan has been in the works for a long time, and that is whats taking place. As for The Lobby/Attorneys…
NO VOICE SHOULD BE ANY LOUDER THAN THAT OF THE PEOPLE!
I interpret this to mean me, citizen voicing concern to Congressional Rep. I told her I was troubled by the choice of language and requested her position.
IT damit!
He’ll never get away with it. Freedom will prevail.
While this latest development from this administration is certainly typical and not in the least unexpected, don’t forget to keep an eye on the other hand.
In MY Humble opinion…
PRISON IS TO GOOD FOR THESE TREASONOUS SOBs’…
Thats just me
The 1A, or anything in the Constitution, doesn’t “grant” or give anyone any rights. It protects rights granted by God. All our Constitutional rights existed before it was written.
Government officials are our employees, not our masters. Does the phrase “public servant” ring a bell? Their sole legitimate function is to protect rights as codified in the Constitution.
Government officials are restricted by the Constitution, not the people.
Let me take it a bit further. I interpret this to mean (1) anyone turning stimulus money down or (2) anyone, being unable to turn stimulus money down, taking stimulus money and wanting to give it back or (3) anyone taking stimulus money and, being unable to give it back, saying they wish they had never taken it. That’s how I interpret it, these being “unique circumstances” and all.
McCloud9,
yes, indeed he doesn’t care, because it’s the Chicago way. I experienced that Chicago way first hand.
Maybe someone can file a FOIA request to see what led up to the decision to refuse to tell EVERYBODY what this administration is up to?
Do you remember when they used to complain that the Bush administration was “secretive?”
Hope and Change
Chicago-,er, Berlin-style!I don’t think anything will stop the gatherings. They may try to make it harder with tougher restrictions, like expensive fees, etc. That has already been tried. But we have the right to gather and they’d better not try to stop us. I have a good slogan for a sign…”Big government…get out of my face and kiss my a$$”. Maybe that is a bit strong.
You need to read the constution again LGM.
This is how the nazis began destroying Germanys freedoms.
That is why it is so incredibly important that ACORN be exposed in all its corruption! This must not be allowed to continue!! There will be attempts to cover this up, big time, and I fear for the safety of those who are working on it. But it is too public now for the corruptcrats to think they can get away with anything too drastic to shut them down. The MSM will try to make this out to be some big “conspiracy nut theory” but it isn’t going to work this time! I hope when the crap hits the fan that it splatters all over the MSM!!
Only if we stand firm and Pledge Our Lives, Our Fortunes and Our Sacred Honor will Freedom triumph over the long night of Tyranny. The Fascist, the Tyrant, the would be king is like a ravenous wolf always ready to pounce on the unaware, the young, the weak. Stand firm, stand ready. This is NOT just one more Liberal Ding Bat with whom we struggle–this is a fight for our very lives and that of generations to come.
Are we citizens or subjects?
Another corollary to this gag-rule politics is the effect it is having on the equity markets. Does anyone find it curious that trading volume is so low and that the banks have led the latest rally? Is it a coincidence that so many mutual funds are owned by TARP recipients? Is it a coincidence that mutual funds are buying bank stocks? And soon, they auctioning off of the bank toxic assets will begin and guess what? Banks are allowed to bid on each others toxic assets? What is wrong with that picture?
BTW, I am one of those “Bond Vigilantes” who refuses to buy Treasuries. I haven’t bought any bonds for my clients in more than two years. Too risky. This may hurt my income but cash doesn’t lose me clients in a possibly rigged, certainly government-manipulated market.
Does anything wonder why commodities are rallying again in a dismal global economy? Does the relative freedom of international markets have anything to do with it? It’s a world turned upside down.
So Obama’s minions are trying to put the genie back in the bottle? Good luck wid dat, BarryO. 2010 is coming, and this time the wheels on the bus will run YOU down! Thump-thump-thump
Oops,I meant to write “does anyONE wonder why…”
One is curious as to why those from previous administrations are so quiet regarding the goings on in Washington these days, given that they also took their oaths to uphold and protect the Constitution of The United States. And given that they are privy too much more sensitive information than ever actually get to the public.
Is the silence to be interpreted as tacit acceptance if not outright approval?
The Black Man continues to push against the levy to see if anyone will push back. If nobody does, why not continue to push until the levy breaks and the floodwaters are too forceful to stand against.
Over at instapundit he’s posted an article where someone has pointed out that the rule regarding lobbyists apparently doesn’t apply to…non-lobbyists.
So if you are, say, the CEO of a big company seeking porkulus bucks, you can simply call up and bend the ear of your favorite politician or bureaucrat, w/o having to do all that messy paperwork required of grubby lobbies.
Hope and Change! Hope and Change!
Look for Obama to take credit for a jump in the Dow next week. When General Motors does file bankruptcy they will be dropped and the Dow Industrial Average will go up–smoke and mirrors, avoid. Sort of a Thug Thizzle thing perhaps. Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Nut out.
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Let your sidearm be like MasterCard: DON’T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT.
And if you live in a sissy state that won’t let you carry move to one that will–we need you.
Yeah, “Voting for McCain is not different than voting for Obama.”
*spit*
For those who haven’t actually read the First Amendment – or have forgotten what it says:
Now I know it can be argued that WH policy isn’t the same as Congress passing a law (for those who live by the parsing of words :-p), but the effect is the same, to place a chilling effect on those rights guaranteed to We the people by the Constitution – and ignoring the limitations placed on the government by the same.
Of course, since the mighty, all knowing One has declared the Constitution to be an imperfect document, it’s no surprise that he and his minions ignore it. /sarc.
Aside to happyscrapper (#46):
Yes, and I would add as a sub-text And it’s not a tempest in a teapot.
Here in CA, we have another taxpayer revolt in progress. Why aren’t other states doing that? Stand and fight where you are. Stop whining and fight!
Just a head’s up…
O’Reilly just terminated Patterico’s comment account for exposing him as a hypocrite.
Never liked O’Reilly…
. . . while the gutless Republican politicians cower and watch the Republic being raped, pillaged and destroyed.
Disgusting.
Ode to Obie:
Your ballroom days are over, Obie
Night is drawing near
Shadows of the evening crawl across the years
You walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful dimes
Gonna make it, Obie, in our prime.
You’ve got the guns
—but—
WE’VE GOT THE NUMBERS
Gonna win yeah, we’re taking over !!!
Neither have I, even when he was pretending to be conservative. He’s always been a loudmouthed bully.
This might have something to do with it.
But take heart, in some quarters the battle has begun.
Jim Morrison is always a good choice.
Well, I see that our newly elected government (and I use that term with extreme prejudice) is hard at work cracking down on free speech and rooting out all opinionated rebels. I expect that one morning soon we will wake to find out that legislation was rammed through the night before granting the Obama administration the same jackboot powers as Nazi Germany in 1936 when the Gestapo was given carte blanche to operate without judicial oversight. I could not understand why the Black Panthers were let off the hook recently but now I do as they are probably being interviewed right now as part of a national police force that will soon begin work enforcing the party line.
McCain might have been marginally better-not a lot. McCain too believed in restricting free speech, Reasonable restricting on the Second Amendment, he was all for big government with big spending–but perhaps with some more efficiency. He most certainly would have picked a Sonia Sotomayor type for the Supreme Court-Gang of Fourteen ring a bell?
Sad to say but for the last number of years we have been give the choice between a pig in a poke and a poke in the eye. Time will tell, or not, but I believe that if Johnny Mac had of won the cause of Conservatism would be set back further. Many of us in Arizona are one shoting our political time and contributions in trying to deny old Mac the nomination for re-election in 2010. If he gets it I plan to sit on my checkbook and vote.
Attack Mac.
More thuggery trying to shut down the media!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/23065.html
I can’t believe I am reading this in the United States of America. Growing up, if someone had told me that the Federal Government would be in the process of abridging a fundamental right such as freedom of speech, I would have told them to go fly a kite.
But, here it is! I am shocked.
It is inch by inch step by step that our freedom is being taken away from us.
And, people are cheering it!
Yet, we who are reporting it or trying to spread the word are the ones being ridiculed and marginalized as kooks engaging in scare tactics in attempts to manipulate the country.
Oy and double oy!
On May 30th, 2009 at 3:46 pm,
Quite a flap over a silly comment using Hussein’s middle name. That IS Obama’s middle name…right? So using it is somehow BAD? I don’t get it! If Barack Hussein Obama is ashamed of his middle name, maybe he should change it. Anyway, I don’t care much for O’Reilly, and he is definitely getting too big for his britches. I probably will continue watching his show, though, because it can be very interesting at times. And, I’m not one of the Nielsen family that affects his ratings. I just wish someone could take him down a notch without destroying him. He needs a reality check.
Now that is something I could support and contribute to!