Counterprotesting Obamacare and the ACORN/SEIU mob
I wrote earlier this month about the need for the Right to counter the huge Obamacare push by the big government alliance. Resistance has to happen on the ground, on the airwaves, and in the halls of Congress. ACORN, the SEIU, and the rest of the liberal grass-roots network are organized and committed to helping the White House. They’re pulling out all the stops:
Activists delivered a stack of dirty laundry to U.S. Rep. John Boehner’s West Chester Twp. office Wednesday, May 27, to protest his stance on health care reform.
The 14 T-shirts had messages written on them, many from a nearby low-income neighborhood.
“I have breast cancer — a pre-existing condition. I can’t get health coverage. Please Mr. Boehner, support health care for Americans now,” read one T-shirt signed by “Cassandra.”
“I lost my insurance because I couldn’t get enough hours at work,” another read.
The demonstration was part of a nationwide effort organized by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now and Health Care for America Now. They targeted Boehner, U.S. House Republican leader, because of his record of opposing expansion of publicly funded healthcare.
“These health insurance companies have a lot of dirty laundry to air,” said Ohio ACORN Director Amy Teitelman. “We want Rep. Boehner to be on the side of the people who made these T-shirts, not on the side of health insurance companies.”
“(Boehner) has voted consistently against expanding healthcare, and we’re trying to get him to see it’s hurting his constituency,” said ACORN organizer Debra Hentnik.
Health Care for America Now is funded by the radical left Tides Foundation, founded by Drummond Pike — the ACORN sugar daddy who bailed out the rotten Rathke family after ACORN founder Wade Rathke’s brother, Dale, was exposed as the thief who embezzled nearly $1 million from the organization.
The Right needs to expose these corruptocrats; show Americans that the do-gooder poseurs want more power and control, not real “health care reform;” and match them foot soldier for foot soldier in the streets.
In Seattle, our friend Keli Carender — the mom-blogger at Liberty Belle who channeled her anger about the trillion-dollar porkulus bill into political activism and helped get the Tea Party movement rolling even before it had that name — is doing just that. Over the weekend, she brought together hundreds of taxpayers to counterprotest the ACORN/SEIU/Obamacare network. Keli e-mailed last night:
We had almost 400 people show up to counter the socialized health care protest today in Seattle! I’ll blog about it in a bit. I just wanted to get you some pics right away. Keep in mind that we had about three weeks to plan this and NO funding or backers. They had…all the funding of all the unions and ACORN. It was fun, and everyone told me that are really starting to get energized, and they are ready for more!!! One woman said, “You know how fear provokes either fight or flight? My fear about the direction of this country is making me want to fight! Not too long ago it would have been different. I’m ready to fight now.”
Pictures via Blake Scholl:
You can’t win the fight if you’re not in the game. What are you doing to mobilize in defense against the government takeover alliance?
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Obama & SEIU have also, threatened NBC 4 in DC about airing a 30 minute infomercial for CPR the anti-obama healthcare group. Isn’t this what Chavez and dictators do????
i note that the second shirt you cite michelle says ” i lost MY health insurance because i couldn’t work enough hours” which seems a strange situation. EITHER you don’t have insurance, and aren’t willing to buy it for yourself, OR you aren’t willing to work hard enough, smart enough, and productively enough to have someone else pay for your insurance. on friday my health insurance for my company was raised 41% for this year. so if we get socialized medicine, and i believe we will, i can blame the insurance companies for making the responsible pay for the irresponsible. this is likewise the fault of a government who favors failure, poverty, and sloth over productivity, work, and saving. i can’t wait for the vat tax to pay for health care, as finally the people who abuse the system will start paying for the system. finally a tax will reward the saver and punish the spendthrift. finally a tax will hit the illegal trade, the off the books business, the welfare food stamps scam, as well as the working class. who is john galt.
Obama doesn’t want to provide healthcare for the masses as much as he wants to get his hands on the benefits your employer pays on your behalf.
Same tactics they used with banks on sub prime loans. Sad part is if he did vote for it, hey would not vote for him any way!
Anyone else find it strange that Drummond Pike and Wade Rathke were Weather Underground buddies with Bill Ayers back in the day?
From the looks of things here, buth ACORN and SEIU have crossed the line from community organizing to lobbying – just what is their motivation relevant to their organizational purpose that is driving them to lobby for government sponsored health care? ACORN seems to be in it for a further redistribution of wealth, but I would venture to guess that most SEIU members have some fairly decent health coverage already in place. Perhaps another few billion in tax subsidies will be forthcoming in any health care bill.
The degree of coordination between the Administration and these groups certainly suggests that they are working with the Administration and/or Congressional Democrats to push this initiative. Are ACORN and SEIU now government sponsored enterprises? If this is happening, there is a law or two that is being trampled upon.
2 words Cloward-Piven
May I suggest at least one poster for every rally in the country that reads;
People need to see the word rationing everywhere in order for them to start thinking…
They’re thinking group think rather than what it will do to them personally
Just wondering why conservatives do not dump a few t-shirts on the Obama nut jobs?
Something with cute little slogans like:
“I’m over 60. Why do democrats think I don’t deserve medical care?”
Or, how about this?
“I’m a Canadian with cancer. Why do I have to come to the U.S. for treatment?”
Or, “I’m a Doctor, not a slave!”
Or, “I’m an American. I’m only entitled to have the government off my back!”
The argument should not be lack of access to medical care. Everyone has access to the healthcare system. No one can legally be turned away. It comes down to access to preventive care. The energy and resources should be directed toward how can we make preventive care more accessible. Since the left isn’t emphasizing this approach, I can only assume the goal is to just get their hands on our benefit packages to spend elsewhere…
It’s not a surprise that ACORN is in the forefront of every ObumA proposal. The anointed one was hired out of law school by ACORN to train ACORN’s
leaders in the art of civil disobedience and intimidation. Noteworthy is that Ms Parker who hired him was a victim of Obuma’s political machinations when he ran for Ms Parker’s seat in the Illinois assembly.
Redefine the debate. the right is always on defense…
-HEALTHCARE REFORM OR HEALTHCARE DEFORM!
-I’M PRO-CHOICE, I’LL CHOOSE MY OWN MEDICAL CARE!
-I’M PRO-CHOICE, I’LL CHOOSE MY OWN DOCTOR!
–NATIONAL HEALTHCARE – FORCED SUICIDE!
What do Doctors think about all this?
I have pictures from the Seattle Event. There was a lot going on that day
No, birds of a feather and all-is it carrion crow season there?
But what do WE do? Do a web search and find the groups in your area opposed to Obama Care. I have yet to find one here but think our “Bag Lady” (tea party) is doing some organizing.
Letters to the editor and Congress critters is not enough. And WE are going to have to do this on issue after issue–Leftist are like the plague–hard to stop and do not mind killing people.
ACORN and SEIU, RICO charges need to be levied and let the wheels of Justice roll.
Republicans need to stop being intimidated and stand up for America or resign, go home and have Special Elections to fill their seats. Why wait for 2010?
Just saw the coverage on the Seattle rally on the local NBC affiliate. Not one word about the counter protest. Figures
Don’t know about all doctors as a group.
But, the powers-that-be in the AMA certainly, over the years, from the articles I’ve seen in JAMA, have give me the clear impression that they are all for socialized medicine.
That’s a main reason that I did not renew AMA membership some time ago.
Let them lobby for the socialists, statists, and collectivists on their own dime.
*It’s all about the 2 M words, mandates and markets; If the government mandates healthcare or health coverage(as they already do with Medicare & Medicaid), then say goodbye to free market healthcare and health coverage; We have to reconnect the patient with the healthcare provider(the customer with the product)or we are doomed.
*Cut Costs by Eliminating The Middleman(Government)
Nothing. I’m taking care of myself; changing my diet and increasing my activity, to hopefully reduce my need for health care in the future (I’m already pretty healthy, could stand to drop a couple pounds however).
I have no hope that gov’t healthcare will not become a reality, especially under this brain-dead administration. Earlier this month my 89-year-old grandma fell and broke her hip and shoulder. We’re lucky she fell now and not later, cuz now she’s getting the care and attention she needs.
…spcifically mentioning their FCC license IIRC.
THUGS! From the street thug in the White House to the thugs in SEIU and UAW on down.
Well, don’t count on the GOP to help out. Just heard Mitt Romney* on Fox News Sunday defending Sotomayor and attacking conservatives, particularly Rush and Gingrich again.
And the “debate” between Rep and Dem over Sotomayor was between the effeminate Lindsey Graham (not to be confused with eternally hot Lindsay Wagner) and Arlen Specter and both of them attacked Rush again.
Clearly, FoxNews is now no more balanced or fair than CNN. The only difference is that one is Democrat and the other is Republican which, as we all know, is the same thing these days.
It’s one-party government at war with its citizens. We must be winning if they have to gang up against us and attack us in absentia.
*(As a one-time supporter of Romney, I have that I have seen all of him that I care to see. Too contrived and slick.)
If they were truly concerned about someone like the above who cannot work enough hours to get insurance, perhaps they would show a little concern for the many thousands being thrown out of work by Urkel’s socialist policies. What will they do for insurance?
All those car dealerships being shut down? I guess they just wait for CommieCare to help them.
Since we are going through another Vichy Republican Sunday, where the GOP machinery continues its offensive against conservatives, here is today’s LA Times editorial weighing in on “The GOP;s Purity Problem”.
Could someone please tell me what is the difference between the positions of those radical left-wing editors and of the current GOP leadership? Both are arguing “inclusiveness” over principles. In other words, both parties have to be the same but are differentiated only by the color of their tents. I know, the logic doesn’t parse.
When is the next round of Tea Parties?
Why am I not surprised. Talk about some dirty laundry. Looks like the lazy socialists who couldn’t understand why they just could not take what they wanted….finally have an opening to take what they want.
As for ACORN, I still would like to see a complaint form one can submit to the IRS about them being in violation of their 501(c)3 charter.
As for SEIU, I suspect a lot of their members will be in for a nasty surprise. But then, when has union leadership every given a d@mn about their members. What is in it for them? Imagine the membership of a huge new bureaucracy managing everyone’s “free” care.
Well, Obama has a good track record of coordinating with ACORN and SEIU.
When the left was out of power, they had all kinds of groups that would raise he!! about X or Y issue, publicly forcing Congress to hold hearings whether the Republicans wanted them or not. When are Republicans going to start doing the same? When is a Republican or Conservative group going to start digging into this coordination and blatant lobbying by ACORN?
Has Obama even put forward a plan that these people can promote other than just “Affordable Health Care for Everyone”. Are they so sure that under his plan, their particular malady will be covered? There are alot of unanswered questions about universal healthcare and ACORN is doing a dis-service to these people asking them to support something they don’t know any details about.
On the other hand, just what is the Republican alternative?
Don’t hold your breath on Republicans doing anything to offend the ACORN, La Raza, MeCha, etal demographic. As to conservatives, the MSM refuses to allow one to the table. We are the invisible boxer bloodying up their guy, supposedly the “only” guy in the ring.
We are already doing very effective things.
1. We are re-registering as unaffiliated independents.
2. We are fueling the rapidly growing Tea Party movement.
3. We are refusing to contribute to the Republican Party.
4. We are populating these high-traffic conservative blogs.
5. When necessary, we meltdown the phones, faxes and e-mail boxes in DC (remember when we sandblasted DC in 2006 and 2007 over amnesty?)
The point is that we are winning and the GOP is using the little money it has to wage war against US instead of tending to business. All we need is a candidate to have a new party.
Otherwise, we can continue to frustrate the one-party system by continuing to hold a gun to its head.
Another Vichy Republican lie getting a lot of airtime today: the GOP is now 88% white and mostly male and (gasp!!!) too conservative.
First of all, the difference between actual GOP registrations and those polls measuring vague and volatile “party affinity” are very dubious. What is undeniable is that GOP registrations have cratered from about 39% (same as Dems) in 2004, to about 26% in 2006 (vs 39% Dems) at what looks like 23% today (vs 41% Dem).
Second, it is clear that the remaining die-hards are far less conservative than those of us who left. It is the liberalism that made us leave (duh!). That the GOP is now more white and male than before is not a criticism of departed conservatives but of the traditional Republican Northeast white-men-only country club elitists who now run and populate the GOP.
The real action is happening among independent voters and conservative-leaning Democrats. Republicans are truly irrelevant.
This is not a Communist conspiracy, it’s the reason a large majority (according to any poll, just google) of Americans want some kind of health care reform that includes at least subsidized health insurance for the needy and more regulations on insurers.
I don’t know anything about Drummond Pike, but whoever he is, he’s not the reason we will get health care reform.
How about a few t-shirts saying “I didn’t buy health insurance because I had to have a big screen TV!”
or
“If the US gets Canadacare, where do we go with OUR waiting list insurance?”
or
“You want cheap health insurance? Kick out the illegal alien freeloaders!”
or
“Why are Mexicans deserting Mexico’s version of Obamacare?”
or
“Will I have to fly to India to get cheap care like Britons under their Obamacare?”
or
“Let’s wait 70 weeks for routine medical care, just like in Canada!!”
Since when is Healthcare a RIGHT? It is a commodity and if you can afford it you get it if not you go to the emergency room and get treated! NO ONE in this country goes without being treated even illegal aliens! People treat healthcare like life insurance you don’t want it or to pay for unless you need it. There would be no debate about this if the government as it should minds their own business. Healthcare is a private business with a risk business like any other insurance. So if you have a pre-existing they’re taking a larger risk. The same as if you have a bad driving record they’re taking a larger risk to insure you! GET A CLUE LGM!
xler8bmw said (#30):
It isn’t a right. Neither are roads, education, or most of the other services the government provides. The American people do have a right to choose to have government funded health care. We don’t have a right to a space program either. We just do it anyway.
WOW! That statement says a lot.
Perhaps you should read up on him before you opine.
You’re right that he’s not the reason. He’s one of many reasons tied together that is taking this country DOWN! And yes it is a communist takeover. Even Pravda says so.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/
Do your homework. Too bad so many Americans aren’t or we wouldn’t be in such a distasterous mess!
Americans have the right to get all sides of the story though, which they are not. A simple, and more importantly, honest side by side comparison of the Canadian and British systems, which Obama admires and wants to emulate, would change a lot or minds. Unfortunately, we get all the morning show, pro Obamacare puff pieces, the liberal media half baked coverage, and story lines written into popular television shows, all designed to manipulate rather than reform.
How many times have you heard about insurance companies in British Columbia issuing “waiting line insurance” to send Canadians to the U.S. for timely care in light of the 60 – 70 week average wait for regular care?
UUUHHHH roads are a right under the General Welfare Clause and interstate commerce. And should be paid out of tax payer dollars! Interstates are suppose to be paid for by feds, state and local roads paid for by states.
Thanks for that factual and logical response!
One good thing about ObamaCare will be the 60-70 week waits for pregnancy services. Takes the government right out of that line of health care.
Come to think of it, those 60-70 week waits will pretty much eliminate health care across the board. Emergency rooms? Hah! Health care will become just another euphemism from Homeland Security’s Department of Euphemisms to describe the medical archeology to catalog the statistics for how and why people died.
Off subject someone just shot and killed “Tiller The Baby Killer”
Excellent point.
But abortions will be in the express checkout lines I’m sure.
Yes.
Just heard a while ago.
At his church.
Wrong. The only industry that Obama is interested in seeing succeed is the abortion industry. The doors will always be open at Planned Parenthood, and I bet its federal funding goes throw the roof. No waiting there and, like Motel 6, it’ll keep a light on for women.
Morning lgm, you are still in Neverland, Left Field I see.
That cartoon character belongs in Massachusetts AND Chicago, maybe San Francisco on Thursdays with his buddies John McCain and Lady “Green Fees” Lindsay. Keep them out of Washington.
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These things never do us good- even when the killers are not conservatives we get blamed. He was killed at Reformation Lutheran Church. Dollars to donuts they are Evangelical Lutheran Church America-a far Left bunch as there ever was. Abortion is their new sacrament, right before gay marriage.
It is an ELCA church. I looked it up.
They reject most of Luther’s teachings based on his interpretation of Scripture, so why should they consider themselves Lutherans is a mystery to me? They are in interesting denomination.
The White House has just released the new logo for Obamacare:
http://thelcabroadside.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/obamacare-its-sick/
Another interesting link to Obama. They are all interconnected. Flow chart anyone? Glenn Beck is working on one. There are less than 7 degrees of separation between Obama and the ACORN thugs. Quite astounding how many links our POTUS has to criminals and thugs. But we knew that before he was elected. If the MSM hadn’t covered up the truth, he would not be our President. I blame the MSM for this mess. The CEO’s of NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and CNN should all be tried for treason.
There are always some people, groups that want the benefits of standing up for appearances sake but who don’t want to pay the price….
As for KOMO news 4 et al in the Seattle area, their lack of coverage of LB’s protest demo doesn’t surprise me…they did hack jobs on behalf of the gun control crowd in the ’90s. They think that by not covering it, they can marginalize it.
Keep Protesting…I, for one, have finally bookmarked Liberty Belle’s site.
In Oregon, we have the Oregon Health Plan. Hillary Clinton once called OHP a model for nationalized health care. I am a Dentist. OHP is considered to be one of the most generous plans of its type in the country remits roughly 50% to 60% of private dentist’s usual and customary fees. Not many Dentists can afford to accept OHP. For instance, I pay my hygienist $35.00/hr to clean patient’s teeth. She spends roughly an hour per patient. OHP pays $28.00 for the cleaning.
Many OHP allowed services are considered by most dentists to be at the lowest end of the standard of care such as placement of mercury containing amalgam fillings on back teeth in lieu of non-allowed tooth colored resin fillings on back teeth. And while root canal therapy is a covered service, Patients in pain must wait weeks for the procedure to be approved. The standard of care for back teeth that have been root canalled is to have a custom crown placed on the tooth to protect it from breaking. Custom crowns are not covered by OHP. The “permanent” crowns that are allowed by OHP are used by dentists as temporaries, and if left in the mouth long term cause periodontal disease and increase the possibility of further tooth decay.
The dental services for which OHP pays well are extractions and dentures. Their rational being that extracted and plastic teeth are the most economical because once the procedures are accomplished no further services are required saving for a denture reline every five years or so. (In Medicine this translates to if the patient dies, no further care need be provided.)
The quality of care allowed by OHP is so far toward the low end of the standard of care that the Oregon Board of Dentistry has at various times had to consider a tiered standard of care. One for the public at large, and one for OHP patient! This and many protests from individual dentists have resulted in OHP allowing us to provide marginally better services to OHP patients.
I entered my profession to help people by providing state of the art care as well as to make a decent living. A Dental education now costs upwards of $250,000, and building and outfitting a dental office costs upwards of $800.000. This as well as the fact that rationed government care equates to lower quality care means there will likely be a shortage of people entering the profession should Dentistry be included in Obama Care. My guess is it will be the same in medicine.
Apparently, Kathleen Sebellius’ key financial supporter, Dr. George Tiller, was assasinated today…
“I pay my hygienist $35.00/hr to clean patient’s teeth.”
I guess its time for a career change. I’ve always loved that little buzzing tooth cleaning “drill”.
On May 31st, 2009 at 4:23 pm, love2rumba said:
Apparently, Kathleen Sebellius’ key financial supporter, Dr. George Tiller, was assassinated today…
I just turned on Fox News to this announcement. I understand they caught the person who killed him.
“This as well as the fact that rationed government care equates to lower quality care means there will likely be a shortage of people entering the profession should Dentistry be included in Obama Care. My guess is it will be the same in medicine.”
The horror stories about dental care in the UK with its socialized health care are endless.
Perhaps the people in Oregon want to look like the English–
In England the treatment for prostate cancer can be ugly-hormone suppression over radiation- IF your hospital is not too busy, then you just die.Under British healthcare people with heart disease, diabetes, stroke, depression and osteoarthritis do not do well. Some of their cancer treatment is state of the art and some is state of the 1960s.
But in this Transformational Age who wants a bunch of sick people hanging around? Margret Sanger and Arthur Schopenhauer would be proud. But that led to Aryanism-over time Obama’s family would not do well under Aryanism.
Do the Brits even have tooth brushes?
Its a good profession with a lot of advantages. Also one of the biggest bangs for your buck education wise. Also, RDH’s have almost zero unemployment, but RDH’s are prone to carpal tunnel syndrome and boredom after years of cleaning teeth.
I read that 40% of American adults do not pay any tax. That means that the tax payers are carrying the un-taxable. Prehaps it is time we have to show our tax reciepts in order to vote.
I think the responses to this article express the very reason that we are trapped by the socialist. The conservative movement is dead because there are those who will not forget about abortion. I will not vote for someone who goes on about what a good Christian he or she is and that they will support anti-abortion laws. The reason is that they are no better than the socialist, they are simply trying to stuff their morality down my throat and take away my freedoms whether they be allowing me to do what I want with my body or the Obama folks who want to take away my freedom for other reasons.
I am having difficulty getting health insurance. Fortunately I am a physician and can take care of many problems. The problem is not the industry. Most of the difficulties we face were manufactured by the government and do gooders. The problem is the unregulated insurance industry. If we are going to regulate financial companies, why leave out the insurance folks? Personally I feel that we need to eliminate all restrictions on the medical industry and also to allow people to buy drugs of any kind without a prescription. That would be a good start.
Apparently cowardly acts are ONLY against violence directed at late-term abortion providers. Violence against conservative values, not so much.. Swearing at, and defaming; still okie-dokey if the woman is conservative.
Why are we not billing foreign governments for healthcare for their citizens ? I know…Makes too much sense.
Heroin cartels from Mexico…Just, another job americans won’t do ?
OT… This is scary.. http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/may/judicial-watch-obtains-obama-commerce-department-documents-detailing-acorn-partnership
Census
On April 23, 2009 around 10am a black census taker came to my door, since I had already filled out and mailed a census, I told him that I couldn’t let him fill out another one. He then asked to come in and look around. I told him that he could not and although his Official Census ID was visiable, I asked him for his ACORN ID. I know that no real census taker would not ask to come into my home to look around. I shut the door and locked it and ran to the back to see 3 black men in a red car start to pull in my alley and driveway, but when they saw me, they went straight. I called the police and reported the incident. Again, I had to call the police at 2am on 4/24 to report the theft of our lawnmower out of our shed by the alley. I can’t prove anything, but I took this as a threat that they thought they could do anything they wanted to. If there is a next time you can bet I’ll be waiting with my own protection.
Obamacare will be a system all Americans can access. Then many of them will find that access to the system will mean an opportunity to be officially denied healthcare (usually in the form of a “waiting list”), with no availabe alternative. Seniors will be expendable, because they have many medical care demands and generally are retired-they have negligible income. So the best way for them to add appreciably to tax coffers is to claim most of their estates after the funerals, and with little medical expenditure to boot! As socialists love to say, you’ve gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Have we really gotten to the point where a majority of people in this country are ready to let themselves be treated as eggs to be broken?
ajmontana, you asked what doctors think of government management…I want a political appointee stationed in my office as much as you want one. Can we stop calling these people czars and use a more appropriate title of commissar.
gco, I have some information to back up your idea of how highly our government thinks of the elderly. The swine flu will be much harder for an elderly person to overcome, than for a young healthy one. If you want to get the drug tamiflu through medicare, you need to get your doctor to submit a pre-approval form. By the time you get through all the red tape, you will have wasted several days. The problem with this approach is that the drug is only useful if started within 48h of start of symptoms. Actually I feel that the main reason all these regulations were made to discourage people from seeking this treatment. Guess what, many people give up jumping through these hoops and simply stay home, get no medical care, and take their chances.
We had predicted that we would be ignored by the media..
They were true to form~
I term it being Obama compliant!
Here is our open letter to KOMO news who covered only the bussed in folks and not us..though they had been informed in advance of the counter protest!
I’ve been hearing a variation of this argument for decades…and it is past getting old.
Sometimes it’s been, “I don’t want someone else forcing their morality on me.”
Sometimes it’s been, “You can’t legislate morality.”
Sometimes it’s been, “Don’t force your religion on me.”
Well, guess what.
Morality is legislated; and has been for a while.
Why is murder legislated against?
Why is stealing legislated against?
Why is lying (under oath, or on signed documents) legislated against?
Why is breaking contracts (or, at least it used to be) legislated against?
These laws did not just “exist”.
Laws against these acts have been enacted because people believed (or, at least used to believe) that these acts are wrong; that is, pace, because they are immoral.
Of course, it is fully expected that statists, existentialists, collectivists, sophists, socialists, cafeteria-style Christians and Jews, etc., are going to go nuts in reacting to this post.
Let them.
To paraphrase King lear, their “outrage” will be no more than sound and fury that signifies nothing.
Gee Urkel. Some people would consider late-term abortion to be a heinous act of violence.
I was at the protest. It was as great as Liberty Belle has written. “Who will pay?” and “Healthcare, yes; Socialism, no” were chants that were fun to stick in their faces. The Obamacare people really were just dumbstruck that we were there in such numbers. They took pictures of us as if we were zoo animals they usually don’t see. They thought they owned protesting. They haven’t seen anything yet. I was an uber Leftist for most of my life of 54 years and now I find the old condescending unrealistic moralism of the Left just sickening, as if their view is the only valid one. The press has utterly betrayed this country but we can still get our message out. Let’s teach these Libs and Leftists a thing or two.