This is what feminism looks like

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 3, 2009 01:54 PM

This is what feminism looks like: Bitter, clingy, and effete.

Oh, sorry, Mizzzz Erbe. Didn’t mean to spew my venom all over yours:

Teri Christoph, whom I have never met, asked me to stand up for conservative women who were maligned by an online article on Playboy magazine’s website. The article has since been taken off the site, but the gist of it was, indeed, disgusting, sexist, of course pornographic, and demeaning to conservative women. The article contained a list of conservative female media commentators whom the author said men would like to, er, have sex with but hate at the same time, or something nonsensical like that. Ms. Christoph sent me a link to a cached page of the now-removed article.

…I also want to note that at least one woman on the list is so venom-spewing, she unfortunately invites venom to be shot back at her: Michelle Malkin. Her posts and her “routine” are so venomous and predictable, in fact, I stopped paying attention to her years ago.

Others on the list, however, are not venom-spewing at all. One woman mentioned on the atlasshrugs2000 blog is a regular guest on my PBS show. Amanda Carpenter, on the show at least, eschews personal judgment of people with whom she disagrees politically. So her inclusion on the Playboy list is much more offensive to me than is the inclusion of Ms. Malkin, although their political views may not differ greatly.

Translation: It’s not okay to talk about “hatef**king” conservative women…unless they are rowdy, incivil conservative women who don’t behave nicely enough to be on my obscure PBS show. In which case, they deserve all the vulgar misogynist attacks they get!

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The comments on Erbe’s post are priceless. I’m sure I’ll be blamed for all the “venom” commenters have been “spewing” there before I even linked it. Heh.

Sample:

Venom fantasy

So Erbe states she stopped paying attention to Malkin “years ago” but is convinced Malkin spews venom and therefore should expect this type of thing. So you don’t actually read her commentary but just know she is vile. Sort of like how Harry Reid has never read any of Sotomayor’s opinions, but just knows she is awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D22_p7CkICE). Got it. No facts or evidence needed here.

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Ms. Erbe, Kindly Do Us All a Favor Next Time …

some conservative group naively sends you an e-mail asking you to support them, and have your IT people place their domain in your spam folder. That way you don’t even have to see their request, much less feel compelled to offer the group your “support.” (While you’re at it, maybe you could see about having them block us people who were directed here from “right wingnut” sites, so you don’t even have to read comments like mine).

You’ll be doing yourself a favor, too. Based on the comments on this story I’ve read on various sites from your fellow leftists, I’m certain that over 90 percent of your typical readers feel that every woman on that list “had it coming” just like you feel that Michelle Malkin did, and that a number of them may even feel that they would be asking for an actual, physical rape because of their conservative political views. By offering this kind of tepid, conditional “support” for the enemy, all you’re doing is alienating and confusing your reader base.

Since you’ve already given conservatives the back of your hand, who will be left to read your columns if you drive away the liberals?

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US Snooze…

“As a nonpartisan, pro-abortion, liberal Democrat, I was perfectly happy with the leftwing misogynist haters at Playboy talking about how they would rape Michelle Malkin…”

No wonder I wasn’t aware that U.S. News was still in circulation; your columnists are just as bad/irrelevant as they used to be.

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Pathetic

It’s this kind of twisted faux-”independence” and faux-concern-for-women that made me stop watching To The Contrary.

Given an opportunity to stand up for all women, even those Erbe disagrees with, Erbe instead chooses to use the opportunity to attack Malkin and imply she ‘deserved it’. Awful.

And if you’re going to made such an awful accusation – again implying Malkin would deserve to be hate-f***-ed, how about including some piece of accusatory evidence? What exactly has she written that’s so “venomous”? Of course Erbe has no ability to do so, and admits her own ignorance of anything Malkin’s done – to quote, “I stopped paying attention to her years ago”.

***

Unbelievable

Wow. Malkin’s inclusion is less offensive to you because she does not eschew personal judgment of people with whom she disagrees politically. Go home tonight and sip some green tea, stroke your cat, close your eyes and try to reflect (if you can) on the sublime irony of that statement.

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  1. #712920
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Could you get Amanda Carpenter to respond to these comments?

  2. #712926
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm, USN RET said:

    Once again the left showing their sliding scale ethics.

  3. #712927
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    This is what feminism looks like: Bitter, clingy, and effete.

    And then there are the women. Oh, you were referring to the womem..never mind.

  4. #712928
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Just occurred to me that Erbe’s argument is the all-time mysogenistic argument: “she was just asking to be raped”.

    Rape is sometimes ok.

  5. #712929
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, walterc said:

    I think the feminist movement lost track of it’s original goals about the time that Susan B Anthony died.

    Now it’s just a far left hate group run by women.

  6. #712933
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm, norm1111 said:

    Note that every single post following Ms.Erbe’s blathering blog is against her…..I thought this was telling and actually made me feel good enough to post over there myself…..

  7. #712941
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm, regularguy said:

    Feminism is not nearly so much about women, but how far left you are. I’ll never forget the swill the feminists spewed during the dark days of the Clintons.

    Who the heck IS this Ms. Erbe, anyway? Never heard of her, which must mean something.

  8. #712942
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm, Socky said:

    Bonnie Erbe and LGM would make a cute couple.

  9. #712944
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm, Speakup said:

    See, you deserve it and Mz Erbe isn’t condemning it happening either.

  10. #712946
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm, letget said:

    Not to worry Michelle, this gal could not hold a candle to you in looks or brain power. She is a really nasty little critter! Just keep up what you are doing and watch your back, please.
    L

  11. #712951
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Comments on her site are disappearing too. There were 141 comments when I arrived. I submitted my comment and four new comments appeared and the count was down to 136. So far, she is losing the war on her own site.

  12. #712954
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    With all due respect, I would consider it an distinguished honor and a privilege to be able to view our hostess in the buff.

    It is, however the very positions she takes that both make me feel that way and make it completely impossible. She is, after all, RESPECTABLE.

    A note to Ms. Erbe: Respect begets respect. Talk trash and you will get it back. Michelle was very forgiving to you in this post. Grow up.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  13. #712955
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Now it’s just a far left hate group run by women.

    Amen to that.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  14. #712956
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Not to worry Michelle, this gal could not hold a candle to you in looks or brain power.

    Amen again.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  15. #712959
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm, J S Ragman said:

    . . .to stand up for conservative women treated despicably by the media. Here I am, doing just that.

    Uh, Bonnie, if that’s what you call standing up for somebody, I’m glad you’re on the other side.

  16. #712962
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm, tre said:

    RightWingRocker, what’s that hand-shaped red mark on your moniker?

    According to Ms. Burps comments, her own readers disagree with her. So, I would say she’s being chased by a crowd rather than leading one.

  17. #712963
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Lastly, I want to note Playboy is past its time and should just fold up and go away.

    how the heck would she know? She’s not part of Playboy’s target audience!

    Silly feminazi. Playboy’s for MEN!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  18. #712965
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    RightWingRocker, what’s that hand-shaped red mark on your moniker?

    You need to read all of what I wrote, man.

    I both acknowledged that Michelle is HOT and that any man in his right mind would like to see her that way, and that our respect and high esteem for her prevents us from pursuing the matter any further.

    The day a man can’t be a man is the day America falls.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  19. #712972
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Southpaw said:

    Dang it MM. You keep coming up with these obscure people that I’ve never heard of (like that Perverse Hilton creep).
    Then I have to waste five minutes of my time checking out who they are and what they are about.

    To her credit (without verifying) Wiki states that “she serves on the National Board of Advisors for the Federation for American Immigration Reform,” and that she is a critic of Obama. But this, time Ms. Erbe, you really stepped in it.

  20. #712973
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, malkin_fan said:

    Playboy has articles?

    Never noticed.

  21. #712976
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm, beachmom said:

    No one, especially women, who have a platform like Ms. Erbe does, should have to be asked to defend or comment about scummy articles such as the rape fantasy that Playboy ran.

    Then she lets it slip in her article that it may be ok if the woman does not agree with her 100%.

    Another classy liberal.

  22. #712977
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm, verogolfer said:

    I yield to no one in my admiration of Michelle’s intelligence and courage. And like any American gentleman who appreciates beauty, I think she is incredibly attractive. But I am puzzled and simply baffled at the hatred she stirs up in leftists. there is nothing venomous about this site or about MM. she is clearly a sweetheart. But both the left’s politics and thinking are perverted and bizarre

  23. #712980
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Regulus said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm, regularguy said:

    Feminism is not nearly so much about women, but how far left you are. I’ll never forget the swill the feminists spewed during the dark days of the Clintons.

    Yes, that’s the same time when my last shreds of respect for the “feminist” movement fell away. I recall a political satire cartoon that addressed Juanita Broderick’s claim that Bill Clinton raped her, entitled “Feminists for Bill.” It showed three “feminist” types, who said in order:

    “Sounds like consensual rape to me.”
    “Didn’t happen in the workplace.”
    “Yeah, and I hear she once even dated a Republican!”

    It’s that last quip that’s relevant to Bonnie Erbe’s “reasoning,” if it can be called that. We’ve all been told ad nauseam that it’s strictly impermissible to “blame the victim”; but like any other liberal “principle,” there’s a “conservative exception” that invalidates it.

    And that’s what makes modern-day liberalism so annoying: When your principles become so flexible that they become “situational” — situational ethics, a situational sense of humor and situational outrage, for example — then you have no principles, only bottomless cynicism tottering on a sand-like foundation of toggle-switch hypocrisy.

    Someone like Erbe can keep her phony inconsistencies and contradictions; I couldn’t care less as long as she wasn’t trying to pass the same off as some kind of moral and intellectual superiority.

  24. #712981
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm, Phileosophos said:

    So let me get this straight. She’s standing up as a feminist to register her outrage at an article suggesting that various women should be raped. Except for Michelle Malkin, who of course shouldn’t actually be raped but for whom we shouldn’t feel nearly as bad if she were raped. Yup. I see modern feminism is just as well considered as it ever was.

  25. #712983
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    So far, she is losing the war on her own site.

    How sad for a woman to be given a golden opportunity like this only to squander it. She deserves to lose.

  26. #712988
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm, RobM1981 said:

    I had never even heard of Misogynist Erbe prior to this. I’ll make it a point to add her to my “Ignorant liberals I ignore” list.

  27. #712989
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm, blues said:

    PasadenaPhil #4:
    My thoughts,exactly.I could hardly believe any woman would express such a vile sentiment against another woman.On the other hand,sometimes I think Liberal women believe rape is a complement.Disgusting.
    As for Michelle’s “venom”-when does truthful concientious reporting of facts become “venom”?Michelle keep doing what you do,you do it better than anyone else.Perhaps Msssss.Erbe should read some of the truely venomous attacks that have been launched on Michelle,and get an education on what real venom is.
    The reason so-called feminists like Erbe hate conservative women is because they ccan see the fallacy of their own beliefs.Women like Michelle,Sarah, MKH,Coulter and others are what the feminists wish they could be,if they were smart enough and courageous enough.When Sharia is instituted,the first to wear the burka,will be the so-called feminists.Just ask Gwen Stefani.

  28. #712992
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Here I am, doing just that.

    Oh, so she wasn’t schooled in writing…

    Poor, uneducated cow.

  29. #712994
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm, vinny said:

    Michelle, if it weren’t for your posts very few people would have read that moronic drivel. Maybe this is the strategy of US News to get more readership. Maybe they just wanted to get your involvement.

  30. #712995
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm, vinny said:

    Someone astutely pointed out that she would make a good partner for LGM. They use the same method-write offensive stuff to get attention.

  31. #712997
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm, vinny said:

    Michelle, when are you going to run for office? What you do here is important and all, but if you wielded political power of a senator or a congressman, and used that platform to reach the masses, you could be much more effective. You have a huge following already and you would inspire many more people if they could see you in a debate.

  32. #712998
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm, atheling said:

    I’ve always liked Camille Paglia’s description of feminism:

    “A catchall vegetable bin, where clingy sob sisters store their mouldy neuroses”.

  33. #712999
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm, iamsaved said:

    I stopped paying attention to her years ago.

    How does she know the articles are still venomous if she stopped paying attention years ago? Go figure!

  34. #713002
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm, TXGator said:

    It’s easy to figure out why they hate her. She’s off the reservation. A minority is not allowed diversity of thought without other right-thinking minorities teaching them a lesson.
    A minority woman who thinks for herself and has the temerity to disagree with the groupthink of the liberal feminist narrative is simply unacceptable. She must be punished and humiliated.

  35. #713005
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm, Socky said:

    On a semi-related note, Joy Behar, a.k.a. “Dumbest Woman in the Universe” says, Baptism = Waterboarding.

  36. #713007
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I think Playboy and liberals need to revisit the philosophy of one of their own, Andrea Dworkin, who perfected the art of not getting raped.

    She became famous for preaching that ALL heterosexual sex represented the rape of women.

    I know it is fashionable today to deny that she said that but I actually heard her state that opinion many times in interviews. It is an opinion that became popular among the most militant feminists. I would like to hear Ms Erbe’s opinion.

  37. #713009
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm, spaceycakes said:

    of course she would, Socky…she’s a vampire.

  38. #713012
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm, Laree said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm, iamsaved said:
    How does she know the articles are still venomous if she stopped paying attention years ago? Go figure!

    A lot of her writing is like that real sloppy unless it isn’t her she hired someone to ghost blog in which case she really isn’t bright.

    Look at her post- we are all responsible for George Tillers death. NO we are not all responsible, she likes moral relativism. I suspect she didn’t go to private school ;) She has the liberal rules down make people feel bad and guilty about themselves. When someone is murdered it’s societies fault no personal responsibility.

    She may end up getting a karma lesson out of her sloppy writing if Michelle gets any threats of harm, quoting ole Bonnie, who is probably coming from a primitive place -envy. This isn’t wise of Erbe to be publishing what she did. She appears to be clueless to her vulnerability.

  39. #713014
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm, spaceycakes said:

    PasadenaP–that’s what I mentioned in an earlier thread…

    Showing my age by noting it’s Dworkin. Next thing you know I’ll be mentioning Abzug.

  40. #713016
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Just imagine having Pizza and seeing Bella’s and Helen T’s Pictures side by side.

  41. #713017
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    spaceycakes: sorry to trample your previous comment. I didn’t see it but good for you for remembering! That woman was positively obnoxious.

  42. #713018
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm, tre said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm, Socky said:
    On a semi-related note, Joy Behar, a.k.a. “Dumbest Woman in the Universe” says, Baptism = Waterboarding.

    I saw that, too. I don’t remember my Preacher saying: “I waterboard you, my brother, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Buried with Him in death, raised to walk the the newness of life.”

  43. #713019
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    I think the feminist movement lost track of it’s original goals about the time that Susan B Anthony died.

    Most don’t even remember that Susan B. Anthony was opposed to abortion too, that now sacrosanct woman’s right.

    As for Erbe, I stopped paying attention to her columns years ago; she so obviously thought that she knew everything there was to know and was very happy to lecture we lesser beings on how ignorant and evil conservatives and Christians are.

    I wouldn’t wish what that Playboy writer (so-called) wished on conservative women on even the likes of Erbe. No one “deserves” that kind of treatment.

  44. #713023
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm, torabora said:

    Has anyone noticed Playboy is for LIBERAL men?

    I subscribed for a year some 6 years ago.

    I didn’t renew. Hope they go broke.

  45. #713027
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm, max said:

    Hmm… MM is “venom-spewing?

    i think, uh, not so much…

    Hmmm.. could it be that dear Bonnie lost her hubby to an Asian woman?

  46. #713030
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    Wear her dislike for you like a badge of honor Michelle.

    Hey torabora….. If Playboy is being marketed toward liberal men it is no wonder they are sliding into obscurity.

  47. #713031
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm, sbw999 said:

    Bonnie, Bonnie Bonnie. Who gives a star-spangled, red-meat-eating flying f**k what you think??? I know I don’t.

  48. #713032
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Pasadena; no harm no foul–I’m impressed someone else remembered those…I knew I wasn’t crazy. I heard her say it.

  49. #713033
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    I like how she calls herself nonpartisan. Who the heck is nonpartisan anymore?

    Erbe wouldn’t repeat the damning vulgarity yet was willing to call another woman who she admittedly hadn’t paid attention to in years as venomous, which isn’t vulgar but may be interpreted as vulgar by association. She pretty much shows that she sides with the playboy.com writer as far as their view of Michelle is concerned. That nullifies her repudiation of the defamatory playboy.com article. I also think she’s lying about not paying any attention to Michelle. If a cobra stares me in the face, I’d prefer to keep my eye on it, even from a distance, than turn my back on it.

    Also, what makes Michelle’s writing any more “venomous” than Pamela’s or Amanda’s writing? If one of the other women’s websites was the most popular conservative blog on the ‘net, I wonder what the Playboy rankings would have been and how the wording of Erbe’s article may have changed.

    You are a feminist, Michelle, a braver one than most, and the Left is angry that you and other conservative women are redefining the word.

  50. #713035
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Nowhere did I see how Liberal men feel about liberal women. Obviously those conservative women who need to be Hate’F**ked are really the wish of the liberal men, who everyone knows are either gay or not getting any from those loving liberal women.

  51. #713036
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm, spaceycakes said:

    There is not a female who speaks for me. Not a one. I never understood this campaign from the get-go for ‘equal rights’ anyway.

    Why on earth would a woman want to give up that much power to be on equal terms with men?

    LOL

  52. #713038
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Nowhere did I see how Liberal men feel about liberal women. Obviously those conservative women who need to be Hate’F**ked are really the wish of the liberal men, who everyone knows are either gay or not getting any from those loving liberal women, who are probably lesbians anyways.

  53. #713039
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Hey! Just found the website where Ms Erbe stole her hairstyle!

  54. #713041
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm, maisy said:

    Apparently this woman prefers to be kept in the dark. I count on Michele’s site to keep me well informed as to what our elected clowns are up to…
    As a side note…
    People like Ms Erbe are truly scary !

  55. #713043
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm, tpro1 said:

    Michelle, it’s a sick source for a badge of honor, but you and the other listed Conservatives on the Liberals’ Hate list indicates just how effective you guys are. Those who don’t matter don’t bother them, in my estimation. That you are beautiful is just icing on the cake. Your other commenters have made the other points I think and agree with, so let just Ditto them.

    and Vinny #29, don’t worry:

    Maybe this is the strategy of US News to get more readership.

    We are not fooled into reading that rag.

  56. #713048
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The degree to which Liberals hate a particular person or group is in direct proportion to how much they also fear them.

    Michelle, like Sarah Palin, you will always be singled out, because the Left knows how effective and thus, how truly threatening to their agenda you are.

  57. #713050
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    …I also want to note that at least one woman on the list is so venom-spewing, she unfortunately invites venom to be shot back at her: Michelle Malkin. Her posts and her “routine” are so venomous and predictable, in fact, I stopped paying attention to her years ago.

    Translation: “If it’s inevitable, relax and enjoy it.”

    I don’t know Michelle, methinks Mizzz Erbe is really jealous of your cheerleading video.

  58. #713052
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm, Laree said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm, spaceycakes said:

    That’s the Camile Paglia school of feminism. Camile also stood up for talk radio. She stated, when did Democrats -Liberals become the Anti Free Speech Party? Old School not to many of them around.

  59. #713058
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm, lgm said:

    I have to agree with Bonnie Erbe. If MM ever had complained about stuff like this or this or this or this or this, I would have more sympathy for her now.

  60. #713065
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm, thirteen28 said:

    On the bright side Ms. (or is it Miz) Erbe not only reaffirms my opinion that US News (formrely one of the better newsweeklies out there) has continued it’s drift to the left, it also reaffirms that I did the right thing a couple of years ago by letting my subscription lapse … after 17 years. Way to alienate your readership, USN&WR!

  61. #713067
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm, docflash said:

    MM is like Rush and Palin.She scares the WHAT out of the left.I agree with Vinny,MM would be a great POl.Just for grins I would like her to announce she is running for office and see how long it would take for heads to explode and the venom flow like they did to Palin.Play that line for a couple of days then back out.We could have some fun with that.

  62. #713071
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:14 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Who is Bonnie Erbe? I’ve never heard of her.

  63. #713074
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm, Ali-Bubba said:
  64. #713075
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm, BadIdeaGuy said:

    Maybe someone else got there first but the ‘venom-spewing’ piece comes of kind of like the “dressed that way, she deserved it” mentality.

    But I didn’t expect much more from Bonnie Erbe.

  65. #713076
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm, Joy said:

    And this is why I’m not a feminist…..

    I’ve never heard of her either.

  66. #713078
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Paul Revere said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Just occurred to me that Erbe’s argument is the all-time mysogenistic argument: “she was just asking to be raped”.

    Rape is sometimes ok.

    Yes. Expect Michelle Obama to slam the treatment of women in African and the Middle East any second now.

  67. #713081
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Michelle, like Sarah Palin, you will always be singled out, because the Left knows how effective and thus, how truly threatening to their agenda you are.

    Like the notion of “she deserved to be raped”, liberals and Democrats feel conservative women deserve to be attacked and criticized because we’re conservative.

    Liberals think they own women and are the “champion” of women’s rights (read: the “right” to killer child) but the second a woman decides to leave that ideology, liberals no longer care about her and, in fact, wish her harm.

  68. #713082
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Joy said:

    And someone please tell me how anything is more venomous than wishing rape on women for any reason, let alone just because they disagree with your politics?!?!

  69. #713086
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    Selective representation. This is why the feminist have no credibility.

    I teach my daughter these types of people use women and abuse them more than any other group. They enslave them by forcing them to accept an idealogy that has them deny nature by killing their children, insists they hate men, denies women can accomplish anything without their help and makees them deny their religious beliefs.

    Feminists are the wretched refuse of women lead by lesbians and men-haters. Real women can think for themselves and don’t need their “help”.

  70. #713092
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm, NeoFan said:

    Bonnie Erbe? Never heard of her.
    Looks like that was a good thing.

  71. #713094
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm, Paul Revere said:

    Here’s her wiki page if anyone desire to snicker.

  72. #713109
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm, bear1909 said:

    What is with this “Michelle is hot!” doofishness in this thread?

    Get a grip. Michelle Malkin is a married woman raising children and managing a career.

    Does she really need idiot males on this site drooling themselves instead of demonstrating some knowledge of the essence of the issue?

    I find it truly embarassing truth be told. Maybe I am old school: you don’t publically mouth off about the sexual side of a married woman— it is in poor taste and few women find it flattering.

    My comments on this ogling nonsense might be annoying to some “freedom loving” males and females on this site. But I make my comment out of genuine respect for Ms. Malkin who is already being placed under demeaning scrutiny by her enemies and adversaries— does she need ogling retards telling her she is hot?

    Man up, cut the crap, and stick to the issues.

    Bear1909 out

  73. #713115
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm, beachmom said:

    Why are they called “feminists”?
    They want to be more like men and rule over men and have men be more like dainty women. So why not call them “masculinists”?

    Although, hypocrites fits much better.

  74. #713120
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:42 pm, granite said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm, bear1909 said:

    Good post, Bear.

    I agree completely.

    No, I am not an old fart.
    But, I do think we should act like grown-ups.

  75. #713121
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:42 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I agree, Bear, however…

    a lot of people use the term “hot” as you or I would use the term “attractive”.

    I can find a woman attractive without taking that to the level of anything inappropriate, including in my thoughts.

    I can admire a woman without sexualizing her, and I certainly do admire many women.

    It may be a generational thing…

  76. #713125
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm, yak_rider said:

    Playboy? Wow, I thought Playboy went the way of the Dodo bird years ago… right along with smoking jackets.

    Is Hugh Hefner actually still alive?

  77. #713126
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm, bear1909 said:

    I have a theory about these creep animals who say outright and/or insinuate that
    our own Michelle Malkin “deserves” to be violated physically and psychically.

    Without exception, my vast experience with the inhabitants under the Democrats’
    “Big Tent”, is that they suffer from several societally prevalent mental disorders. And it is these disorders that attract them to like-hearted sisters and brothers that they find there.

    The Democrats practice the attack politics of LACK. It is what they DO NOT HAVE that drives them. Hence, the “redistribution” of other peoples wealth etc….

    The females of the Big Tent generally suffer from a confusing sense of inferiority
    imposed by the sexist values displayed by Ms. Erbe– that is, what they profess to
    be “oppressed by” they have internalized to such a profound degree as to act on
    those same values when they are in conflict or confrontation, the essence of Left
    politics so that means most of the time they are in political action.

    The males of the Big Tent generally suffer from a fear of castration complex which
    causes them to bounce wildly from yoga class, to backdoor gentleman’s clubs, on-line
    porn parlors, massage therapist offices, and other places where they can act out
    their persona-non-grata status as “not girls”. This is a subconscious mind set or
    affliction if you will in which the Males of the Big Tent are “cut off” from themselves
    to the degree they never quite achieve the psychological threshold of “manhood”.
    This in turn feeds the Females of the Big Tent should they be so unfortunate as to have been sired by a Male of the Big Tent, the Dad who must work out his sexism on
    the soul of his female offspring.

    It’s a vicious cycle of dependence. And sadly enough, the basis of all Big Tent legislation.

    Sadder yet is the over-compensation by both the females and males of the Big Tent,
    in that they use their megalomaniacal compulsions to “look good” via their “politics of swagger”
    to build a ginormous penile edifice to their own lust for superiority, a lust fueled only by
    their inferiority– she as a “not enough” daughter; he as a “not enough” emasculated male.

    We can’t make them go away because their pain wont go away. They are oblivious to the
    source of their gnawing needs to control. Sure there may be plenty of this to go around
    on both sides of the aisle. But why is it so prevalent among the Bawney Fwankz, the Boxers
    and Pelosis, the Reids and the Schumers?

    Grandiosity has a source. And it is the currency of the vicious. Take heart, Michelle.
    The dogs are barking because you are on the move.

  78. #713129
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm, Jeff said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm, bear1909 said:

    Wow…Just, wow.

  79. #713130
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm, bear1909 said:

    Ragspierre #74:

    I agree, Bear, however…
    a lot of people use the term “hot” as you or I would use the term “attractive”.
    I can find a woman attractive without taking that to the level of anything inappropriate, including in my thoughts.
    I can admire a woman without sexualizing her, and I certainly do admire many women.
    It may be a generational thing…

    Not buying it, Rags. It is vulgar street vernacular and has no place describing a married professional woman by someone on a political blog who claims to respect her. If Ms. Malkin is attractive, then so let it speak for itself and refer to her as beautiful out of a sign of respect for her gift.

    Hot? Means one thing. And if it is supposed to mean beautiful or attractive or something else here, then i must insist on the lazy to practice achieving a higher standard in their communication.

    For the younger crowd, pornographic thinking is happening as far down as 4th grade where little boys and girls are describing each other as “hot” … for one reason— sex.

    That use of the vulgar vernacular doesn’t evolve magically at 34 to mean something else.

    I can appreciate your argument, but I will not allow it to relativize the merits of mine.

    Hot means one thing in the vernacular. Let’s not mince words.

    Be well, Rags.

    Respectfully-

    Bear1909

  80. #713134
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:08 pm, granite said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:42 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I agree, Bear, however…

    a lot of people use the term “hot” as you or I would use the term “attractive”.

    I do not think “hot” has the same connotation as “attractive”.
    Whether one likes it or not, or admits it or not, it has a coarser connotation, a gift from our ever-coarsening “culture”.

    I can admire a woman without sexualizing her, and I certainly do admire many women.

    Likewise.

    It may be a generational thing…

    Perhaps.
    Perhaps the guys (and gals) of previous generations actually “grew up”; whereas many of those of the “current” generation have not.

    I think all of us guys, as well as our Dads and Grandads, and their Dads and Grandads, etc., thought similarly, when we were, say, 18? 20?, 23?, etc.
    The current generation did not invent sex, just like the 60s “Boomers” did not invent sex.

    The problem is that so damn many of the Boomers did not and will not grow up…and that that sickness has infected subsequent generations.

  81. #713135
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm, MTNEER said:

    #71: Great post Bear1909! I always enjoy your common sense approach to issues, and your fearless defense of the right. Good on ya.

  82. #713136
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    The article contained a list of conservative female media commentators whom the author said men would like to, er, have sex with but hate at the same time …

    Hmmmm. Playboy has come up with a funny concept.

    I can’t think of any liberal female media commentators I would want to have sex with. Maybe that’s because they’re so hateful.

  83. #713146
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm, bear1909 said:

    Maybe it’s just me. LOL

    It is simple and easy to say “I’d have sex with insert female’s name here if I could.” It somehow recruits the conversant and non-conversant admiration of other males.

    What is more difficult, yet more gratifying, is to develop a sensibility of one’s own erotic nature, one of several natures we possess as human beings that can actually guide a man to living a rewarding and magical life which would be without rival, and need no external validation by popular standards and mores (Moh-rayz). lol

    It also flips the script of a man’s life…from one who is continuously on the lookout or in search of the “attractive” to complete himself or fill in a blank spot— to one who is the attractor and needn’t do one thing to impress anybody for any reason.

    Playboy is a joke. It always has been and always will be. One man’s misguided fetishes and obsessions raked in billions from the erotically impaired yo-yos of America and other lands.

    Such a waste of human potential— male and female alike.

    Now….where were we?

    The Erbe Derby….

    I would like to see our venerable woman journalists debate….the women on the conservative list vs. Al Franken, Janeane The Office Buffalo, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara “Babs” Boxer, Bawney Fwankz, and Rahm “Twinkle Toes” Emmanuel.

    This put down of our sheroes in our own conservative mainstream media is a distraction….and a symptom of buyers remorse.

    Their Ninny in Chief is over there calling us a Muslim Nation.

    OY!

  84. #713148
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm, bear1909 said:

    Gotta get back to work now. :D

  85. #713150
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Being attractive can bring great benefits. Abraham got rich because everyone showered gifts on his wife.

  86. #713154
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    My local newspaper carries Bonnie Erbe’s opinion pieces. I’ve just emailed the editor asking that he cease doing so. Any writer who could even contemplate a woman “asking” for rape is unworthy of readership.

  87. #713169
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm, flmom said:

    Maybe it’s an age thing, Bear, but I wholly agree with what you say. When you free yourself from the perception of attractiveness of the surface, you begin to see that what is the whole of a person is what is important. I can appreciate beauty, much like a wonderful piece of art, but if that piece of art doesn’t speak to my soul, it is worthless. This is where the libs fall down, they see everything on a surface level. They don’t realize what they are missing. I just pity most of them, they have shallow souls.

  88. #713171
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm, swede said:

    Michelle makes concise, rational arguments, always backed up with meticulous research and documentation. If all this weren’t so vile, infantile and threatening it would be amusing. When the leftwits can’t engage the issues, they will always attack their opponent. The vile nature and intensity of the attacks indicates Michelle is dead on target, and it makes them crazy.

    Michelle, I sincerely hope you and her family are not in any way threatened by these creeps. Your contribution to the national dialog is essential now. Praying for your safety and well being. Don’t let them intimidate you. Great work!

  89. #713177
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 8:02 pm, Stillwaiting said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    If you really respected her or her husband, you wouldn’t have made that comment. Would you say it to their faces (that it would be an honor to see her in the buff)? If her husband didn’t deck you, hopefully she would. In terms of her professional life, what difference does it make what she looks like? You’re empowering her critics who try to use her looks against her.

    Someone wrote that she is prettier than Erbe. So what? If Erbe were prettier would her stupid, ugly comment be okay? Gee, maybe that person really thinks MM IS venomous…but it’s okay becuz she’s cute. Is that it???

  90. #713178
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm, Lockstein13 said:

    Somehow…just somehow…

    …this has to get out to the centrist Americans as:

    HEY – THIS is what your “hope and change” Left is truly about.

    I can dream, can’t I?!

    ***

    As if a hippie had been time transported 40 years, looked around and said, “Hey, man, it’s supposed to be those uptight, hating Republicans who are into raping women. What’s the deal with the Democrats doin’ it, man? I don’t get it.”

    Exposing the disconnect.

  91. #713179
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm, Stillwaiting said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Exactly! Wish I’d read your post before going on a rant!

  92. #713180
    On June 3rd, 2009 at 8:13 pm, Stillwaiting said:

    On June 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm, bear1909 said:

    Exactly! Wish I’d read your post before going on a rant!

    MM: Please for goodness sake delete my post #90. It was supposed to be to bear1909!!! I don’t know what happened to my cut ‘n paste.

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