Shooting at National Holocaust Museum Updated: Museum guard dies; shooter wasn’t “left” or “right,” just plain loony

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 10, 2009 01:32 PM

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Details just coming in.

Via FoxNews: “At least two people were shot at the national Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, an official told FOX News. Other media reports said a man walked into the museum and shot a security guard. Another guard returned fire, wounding the alleged shooter. ”

AP bulletin here.

Tom Elia is tracking.

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Update: The shooter

The suspect in Wednesday’s shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum is James von Brunn, an 88-year-old white supremacist from Maryland, two law enforcement officials told CNN.

Von Brunn served six years in prison on federal attempted kidnapping, assault and firearms charges after what he called a citizen’s “legal, nonviolent citizens arrest” of members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

On his Web site, “Holy Western Empire,” von Brunn said he was “convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge.”

“He is in our files going back way into the 1980s,” said Heidi Beirich, a researcher for the Montgomery, Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

“He has extremely long history with neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He’s written extremely incendiary publications, raging about Jews, blacks and the like.”

The suspect and a security guard were wounded in Wednesday afternoon’s shooting at the museum, U.S. Park Police said.

District of Columbia police and the FBI said the shooting appeared to have been the work of a single gunman and there was no prior indication of the attack.

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Inevitable: The blame game has already begun. Here’s Kos implicating the Tea Party movement.

Ditto Donald Douglas: “The spin on the left is that the suspect, James Von Brunn, is an agent of the GOP’s “Christian-fascist” base. The truth is, via Melissa Clouthier, this guy’s a deranged Holocaust denier. He represents no one on the conservative right – not me, nor any of those with whom I associate.”

Melissa Clouthier: “Remember, Markos, it’s our President who is wanting to meet with another Holocaust denier, President Ahmadinejad.”

Francis Beckwith notes that Von Brunn was an all-inclusive nutball hater who bashed both Jews and Christians.

Milblogger Greyhawk at Mudville Gazette notes the veteran-bashing claims of vindication by reporters citing the DHS right-wing extremism report. (Aside: Has anyone actually verified the lunatic gunman’s claims that he is a veteran? Update: Verified here according to Navy records.)

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Update: Heroic museum guard dies. Keep him in your prayers:

The security guard who was initially targeted was wounded; he was taken to George Washington University Hospital, where he died from his injuries, high level D.C. police sources told ABC 7’s Jennifer Donelan.

Sources say the gunman remains in critical condition at George Washington University Hospital.

The guard’s name was Stephen Tyrone Johns. Don’t forget.

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More from Kathy Shaidle about the shooter — a 9/11 Truther who hated “neo-cons:”

The man accused of opening fire at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC on June 10, James W. von Brunn, left a trail of unhinged writings around the internet.

The anti-semitism of von Brunn is the first thing one notices when visiting these bizarre websites. However, like those of most “white supremacists”, many of von Brunn’s political views track “Left” rather than “Right.” Clearly, a re-evaluation of these obsolete definitions is long overdue.

For example, he unleashed his hatred of both Presidents Bush and other “neo-conservatives” in online essays. As even some “progressives” such as the influential Adbusters magazine publicly admit, “neoconservative” is often used as a derogatory code word for “Jews”. As well, even a cursory glance at “white supremacist” writings reveals a hatred of, say, big corporations that is virtually indistinguishable from that of anti-globalization activists.

James von Brunn’s advocacy of 9/11 conspiracy theories also gives him an additional commonality with individuals on the far-left.

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Erick Erickson:

Kos and the lunatic gunman today and the lunatic gunman who killed Pvt. Long share more in common that the rest of us — their world view is centered on contempt for what this nation stands for and are consumed with an abiding hatred of George W. Bush and the “neocons.”

Geoffrey Dickens at Newsbusters:

Salon.com Editor-in-Chief Joan Walsh, on Wednesday night’s “Hardball,” cited “conservatives” like Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and Bill O’Reilly for “whipping up” a climate that sparks the likes of alleged Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn and “Hardball” host Chris Matthews wondered if access to guns were to blame for the tragedy as he cried, “It’s easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle.”

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  1. #717370
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, DBNinKY said:

    The Left took great pains to blame FNC and talk radio for inciting Dr. Tiller’s outrageous murder.

    The pro-Israel right could now just as easily blame the Holocaust Museum’s attack on the “blame-Israel-first” messages that permeated Left-leaning news outlets’ stories during last week’s Mid East tour as setting off the anti-Semitic time bomb inside the alleged shooter.

    But the right will not do this; they’re better than that.

  2. #717372
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    So a nutty anti-semitic white guy is automatically a Christian? Why don’t they just call him what he was – a hate-filled nut job?

  3. #717373
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, huggybear said:

    It’s not a left/right thing. There will always be angry nutjobs across the political spectrum bent on killing people — I can accept that. It’s the way the rest of us so eagerly, gratuitously respond to these tragedies that makes my skin crawl.

    I’m with you.

  4. #717374
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, sonofdy said:

    It’s the way the rest of us so eagerly, gratuitously respond to these tragedies that makes my skin crawl.

    Its the world the left created. We didn’t react this way after 9/11.

  5. #717375
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Second, is it fair for the Left to point to things said by preachers on the right while only flippantly dismissing the things said by those on the left?

    Jeremiah Wright isn’t too jazzed about a nation that officially persecuted his people for hundreds of years. I don’t agree with him, but I don’t blame him.

    John Hagee called the Catholic Church the “great whore,” stated that Hitler was just carrying out a “divine plan,” and and claimed that Jews’ “rebellion had birthed the seed of antisemitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.”

    Compared to John Hagee, Jeremiah Wright is freaking Mr. Rogers.

  6. #717376
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I’ve said it a million times. Our humanity hasn’t kept up with our technology. IMHO, the internet has done more to demoralize and devalue our fellow man than any one thing. That being said, I do not for an instance, believe anyone who posted on this thread doesn’t feel the sadness of this tragedy.

  7. #717377
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Why don’t they just call him what he was – a hate-filled nut job?

    And miss out on a chance to yet again further their campaign to marginalize Christians and conservatives on behalf of agnostic liberalism? Not the MSM I’ve come to know -

  8. #717378
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, right4life said:

    I couldn’t find the entire context of the quote but…

    Here you go:

    You say you’re supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist.

  9. #717380
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, America1st said:

    My 2 cents for all those trying to make a big deal about Christian praying for Jews conversions, Christians pray for all people of all faiths to be converted.

    It is not anti semitic, it is not anti anything. It is an injustice to Christianity to present this as an animosity. Christians believe that Christ came for all mankind and that it is only through Christ that anyone can be saved. This requires conversion from all belief sets.

    It is not Jews are bad and they must be a convert to be good. It is ALL ARE BAD & ALL MUST CONVERT TO BE SAVED. There is no favoritism.

  10. #717381
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, jangar said:

    I do not for an instance, believe anyone who posted on this thread doesn’t feel the sadness of this tragedy.

    And where this will ultimately go with the thought police making policy now-a-days.

  11. #717383
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, jangar said:

    America1st said:

    Well said…that’ll preach.

  12. #717384
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Ragspierre said:

    The guard who died was named Stephen Johns.

    His name is more important than the killer’s, but will be referred to much less often.

    Stephen Johns. He was the man who worked at a job where he could be…and today was…required to put himself between innocent people and a crazed killer.

    Stephen Johns. A good name. Worthy of honor.

  13. #717385
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:09 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    ALL ARE BAD & ALL MUST CONVERT TO BE SAVED.

    But a major difference between Christians and Mohammedans is that we believe conversion should be through persuasion, not at the point of a sword… or butcher knife… or AK-47…

  14. #717386
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, jangar said:

    Christ came for all mankind and that it is only through Christ that anyone can be saved

    He is, after all, God becoming man and providing Himself to be the perfect sacrifice for the redemption from sin. No argument, only mercy.

  15. #717388
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Compared to John Hagee, Jeremiah Wright is freaking Mr. Rogers.

    You’re quoting Hagee’s sermons out of context. I’m not defending him and I don’t follow his ministry, but I’ve seen the full text of those quotes on various discussion shows and though I vehemently disagree with them, the overall message was much less hatefilled than you portray here.

    As for Reverend Wright, no. He is not Mr. Rogers.

  16. #717391
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, jangar said:

    As for Reverend Wright, no. He is not Mr. Rogers.

    And he misrepresents Christ.

  17. #717393
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, crashemt said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Amen. My thoughts and prayers with his family, friends, and fellow officers.

  18. #717395
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm, granite said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, crashemt said:

    Amen. My thoughts and prayers with his family, friends, and fellow officers.

    Amen.
    May God comfort his soul.

  19. #717396
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm, RTater said:

    That’s what I get when I assume. Lesson learned – don’t dismiss the modern Nazis.

  20. #717397
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm, Roman Con said:

    There are many, many theories as to what set this guy off. Blaming tea parties on one hand, or the President’s “Blame America First” tour of the Middle East on the other, is fruitless.

    Only one thing motivated this heinous act: the evil in the shooter’s heart.

    But as surely as the murderer acted upon that evil, no amount of state-approved, PC, “Kumbaya” indoctrination will ever eradicate it.

  21. #717400
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:28 pm, granite said:

    As I said above, there needs to be a full, unobstructed investigation into this guy, his contacts, his organization(s), and his organization’s(s’) contacts.

  22. #717401
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, Jeff said:

    Jeremiah Wright isn’t too jazzed about a nation that officially persecuted his people for hundreds of years.

    Ummm….From 1789, hundreds of years brings us up to…the future? Explain your statement.

  23. #717402
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, right4life said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, right4life said:

    this is what he said…
    No, he blamed 9/11 on “pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, the American Civil Liberties Union and the People For the American Way.”

    uh I quoted what he said…and what is so ‘extreme’ about it? hmmm??

    you keep throwing out a bunch of lies and BS, but thats about it…typical for left-wing wacko.

    you obviously cannot respond to what I wrote, so you have to go back to talking points…no surprise there…

  24. #717404
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, right4life said:

    Jeremiah Wright isn’t too jazzed about a nation that officially persecuted his people for hundreds of years. I don’t agree with him, but I don’t blame him.

    but you sure do BLAME robertson, hagee, et al…hypocrite.

    so people of color get a pass, and can do anything huh? I’m part black and part native american…and I find your comments condescending, and racist.

  25. #717405
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, right4life said:

    John Hagee called the Catholic Church the “great whore,” stated that Hitler was just carrying out a “divine plan,”

    you do realize that even the devil is part of God’s divine plan, don’t you? or are you lying about being catholic??

    The Lord places whom He will on the thrown…and thats just as true now, as when Daniel spoke it about Nebuchednezzar

    Daniel 4:

    17 ” ‘The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of men.’

    but this is a deep theological argument…and you have shown little capacity for anything other than talking points…

  26. #717408
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, right4life said:

    thrown

    throne…sorry.

  27. #717409
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    so people of color get a pass, and can do anything huh? I’m part black and part native american…and I find your comments condescending, and racist.

    Heh-heh, by and large, the left always assumes Conservatives are white, and that anyone who isn’t white needs their help in life…

  28. #717410
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Stephen Johns. A good name. Worthy of honor.

    Well said Rags. Well said.

    Stephen Johns held his ground, and protected the visitors. We should be discussing his courage, his devotion to duty and his sacrifice, not the lunacy of the piece of human debris who shot him.

  29. #717411
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, thutmose18 said:

    Dexter, christianity has been spread by the sword many times, the targets mostly being the “Christ killers”(Jews) and “savages”(natives). Just ask Columbus, Cortez, the Inquisition, etc. Basically those beacons of western civilization conservatives love to defend. Although this is largely a relic of the past, it’s a good reminder to the Muslims that they can change their ways.

  30. #717412
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, granite said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, right4life said:

    R4L:
    As I am sure you know, to clowns like that poster, you are likely seen as a sell-out.
    You are not an individual to that poster.
    To that poster you are merely a member of a group who is disloyal to, and a traitor to, said group; and who is ignorant of why he should be loyal to said group.

    For the overwhelming majority of the rest of us posters here, however, you are an individual, and a fellow American.

    Keep on keeping on.

  31. #717414
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:41 pm, right4life said:

    by and large, the left always assumes Conservatives are white, and that anyone who isn’t white needs their help in life…

    yeah they don’t know what to do with people like Hutcherson…I’m sure they’re delighted he has cancer though…

  32. #717416
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, right4life said:

    For the overwhelming majority of the rest of us posters here, however, you are an individual, and a fellow American.

    Keep on keeping on.

    thank you my friend!

    of course they don’t know what to do with the vote on prop 8 in CA…

  33. #717417
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm, granite said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, thutmose18 said:

    …it’s a good reminder to the Muslims that they can change their ways.

    Be sure to let the rest of us know how waiting for “…the Muslims…” to …”change their ways….” works out for you after you make nice to them while they’re blowing people up, imposing sharia, honor killing, etc.

  34. #717418
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm, right4life said:

    Just ask Columbus, Cortez, the Inquisition, etc.

    the inquisition killed what, 2000 people over a couple hundred years?

    compare that to the MILLIONS slaughtered by the muslims…or the atheists???

    you libs are beyond stupid…

  35. #717419
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, sonofdy said:

    Oh god, a truther. That sort of stupidity is beyond left or right, but will be blamed on the right by the MSM.

  36. #717421
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, Jeff said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Too true…An honorable death though, a sad commentary on extremists of whatever stripe. I also honor the other guard that put him on the ground in response.

  37. #717420
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, right4life said:

    oh yeah RSS I’m also married to a black lady…an African…

    bet you think I’m a racist too!! :roll:

  38. #717423
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, right4life said:

    btw: I’m also part german and irish…I’m a mutt… ;-)

  39. #717425
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, Ragspierre said:

    …it’s a good reminder to the Muslims that they can change their ways.

    A day that I hope to see in this life, BUT…

    while there is a segment of that religion working to not just kill Americans but our entire culture

    I will actively support killing them first.

    Hard.

    It is the only rational response.

  40. #717427
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:54 pm, granite said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm, right4life said:

    Always ignored is that the Christians committing atrocities in the past were not following and upholding the eternal teachings of the Gospel;

    whereas the loony, barbaric, jihadi Moslems today, as in the past, justify their evil acts on the basis of the koran and hadiths…

    …unless Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, and Andrew Bostom don’t know what the hell they’re talking and writing about.

  41. #717430
    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    I wonder if he thinks jokes about pointing guns at Obama & Pelosi are funny?

  42. #717434
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pm, granite said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, right4life said:
    btw: I’m also part german and irish…I’m a mutt…

    As we learend way back in high school…hybrid vigor!

    I’m “100%” extraction of my grandparents’ native European country.
    However, the Mediterranean has been the crossroads of three continents for at least ?3500-6000? years of history (i.e., written), if my memory serves me.
    So, what with conquests and migrations, I have no doubt that I am a mix of Slavic, Greek, Italian, Jewish, Turkish, (black) African, Persian, Scandinavian, Arab, French, German, (ancient) Egyptian…..

  43. #717435
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pm, Ragspierre said:

    The internet is a WONDERFUL thing.

    From the killer’s own website….

    ACTUALLY, on the road to Damascus — brooding about Rome, relishing the bloody image of the disciple he had stoned to death; sweaty, sore footed, thinking of the blasphemous ravings of the Nazarene — Saul had an incredible, earthshaking IDEA. A light-bulb inspiration. He, Saul — a Roman citizen — suddenly realized how he could destroy Rome! Saul trembled uncontrollably with fear and joy. He would simply promulgate the insane teachings of Jesus! What better way to destroy a Nation — any Nation — than to undermine her hubris; her gods, ethics, mores, history, her gene-pool — in short, Saul would DESTROY ROMAN CULTURE. Then, as night follows day, with her foundations rotted, the Roman Empire would FALL. Saul decided to begin the HOAX by inventing a miraculous encounter on the road to Damascus with the reincarnated Jesus the Christ!

    He hated Christians, just as he hated Jews.

  44. #717437
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, sonofdy said:

    Ilovemycountry said: nothing. Seriously, why do you bother even typing crap like that?

  45. #717438
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, sonofdy said:

    BTW over on huffpo they are calling for all right wing extremists to be acted against. That means us.

  46. #717443
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:11 pm, Ragspierre said:

    TAKE NOTICE—

    The Holocaust Museum killer, in his OWN WORDS…

    CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES

    He was NO CHRISTIAN…AT ALL…IN ANY FORM.

    And, he was not a TEA Party participant.

    He was a NUT.

  47. #717450
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, Jeff said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, sonofdy said:
    BTW over on huffpo they are calling for all right wing extremists to be acted against. That means us.

    However, Black Muslims are okie-dokie…Especially if they kill Soldiers in Arkansas.

  48. #717451
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:26 pm, Jeff said:

    Oops…should have said…Unarmed soldiers…Allah, and our Dhimmi enslaver-in-chief. Donkeys do not know what the word ‘Honor’ means.

  49. #717453
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:28 pm, Jeff said:

    Amazing to other countries that our military hasn’t done a Sadat on Dear Leader.

  50. #717454
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Jeremiah Wright isn’t too jazzed about a nation that officially persecuted his people for hundreds of years. I don’t agree with him, but I don’t blame him.

    You’ve fallen for the victimhood lie. Jeremiah Wright and his followers should be thankful to God for having been brought here. Our forebears may have meant it for evil but maybe God meant it for good. When are black leaders going to encourage their followers to be grateful for their USA heritage? Instead, he fans the flames of bitterness, envy, and hatred to get something for nothing and tries to guilt others into giving them a free ride in life. …and guest what? We repented of our sinful ways and freed the slaves. Don’t we get credit for that??? So, yes, I do blame “Reverend” Wright for his behavior. He’s causing young ones to stumble, and surely you know what Christ has to say about that.

    You tell us: what exactly do the Jeremiah Wrights want us whites to do? How much reparations are required for them to finally shut up and start working along side of us? How many laws must be passed? What words are we to say? How much stuff are we to give them? How many rights must we grant? What’s it going to take, Red? When are they going to stop being angry? WHEN?

    Compared to John Hagee, Jeremiah Wright is freaking Mr. Rogers.

    You can’t excuse someone’s bad behavior by saying someone else’s is worse. That’s lgm’s MO.

  51. #717460
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, thutmose18 said:

    Dexter, christianity has been spread by the sword many times

    No one has ever become a Christian at sword point and no one ever will.

  52. #717464
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:39 pm, rotarymunkey said:

    White Supremacy used to be a core tennent of the Democratic Party (Senator Byrd). The KKK was full of rabidly enthusiastic Democrats.

    Don’t let anyone sell you the “Right-wing” associations…

    This guy is simply an old, possibly senile nutcase who wanted to die “in a blaze of glory”, basically. Maybe he voted for Ron Paul. Maybe he voted for an old white guy out of general principle. He is, however, 100% loon.

    That should be something both liberals AND conservatives agree upon.

  53. #717466
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm, love2rumba said:

    I wonder if he thinks jokes about pointing guns at Obama & Pelosi are funny?

    Well certianly it has been shown that the left loons thought it was funny to depict Pres. George W. Bush being slaughtered or dismembered on protest posters…

  54. #717471
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:46 pm, 24Klady said:

    I’ve seen my share of hate-groups, having growing up in the SF Bay Area. It’s a non-starter to blame anyone but the guilty. Not their parents, religious affiliation/or lack thereof, educational opportunities, or the fact a girlfriend in high school dumped them. And please don’t go to a medical problem/condition for defense. This man hates because he can.

    This incident will only encourage the anti-gun lobby to push even harder for gun control. Well, this man had previously been convicted of a Fed. crime and spent 6yrs. as a guest of a prison, if the reports are correct. What was he doing with a weapon in the first place? In lieu of a gun, he could have made a bomb with the info that’s out there on the net – or, a simple bottle filled with gasoline and a wornout sock to light it.

    Prayers for the fallen security guard and his family.

  55. #717484
    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:59 pm, jangar said:

    However, Black Muslims are okie-dokie…Especially if they kill Soldiers in Arkansas.

    Speaking of which, we have a local update:

    Little Rock – A Muslim convert charged in the shooting death of an American soldier told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he didn’t consider the killing a murder because U.S. military action in the Middle East made the killing justified.

    Abdulhakim Muhammad of Little Rock said he confessed to police that he killed Pvt. William Long outside an Army-Navy recruiting center but told AP that murder exists only “without a justified reason.”

    In a collect call from jail, the 23-year-old also disputed his lawyer’s claim that he had been “radicalized” in a Yemeni prison, and also said he didn’t specifically plan the June 1st shootings but that they came about after being on his mind for awhile.

    Muhammad said he wanted revenge for claims that American military personnel had desecrated copies of the Quran and killed or raped Muslims in Iraq (web | news) and Afghanistan.

    He said the U.S. military would never treat Christians and their scriptures in the same manner.

    Muhammad’s lawyer, Jim Hensley, said that any information spread by any of the parties since Monday morning would violate the gag order and declined to say whether he would advise his client to remain silent pending a trial.

    Prosecutor Larry Jegley declined to comment, citing the gag order.

    Sounds like those at GITMO…guilty. However, Mr. Obenevolent has other ideas.

  56. #717488
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm, Misscheryl said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, sonofdy said:
    BTW over on huffpo they are calling for all right wing extremists to be acted against. That means us.

    Bring it!

  57. #717490
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:09 pm, Ragspierre said:

    BTW over on huffpo they are calling for all right wing extremists to be acted against. That means us.

    Then who will fund their fascist paradise…!?!?!?

  58. #717491
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, flenser said:

    The spin on the left is that the suspect, James Von Brunn, is an agent of the GOP’s “Christian-fascist” base.

    That’s a pretty good trick since he was also anti-Christian.

  59. #717495
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:32 pm, flenser said:

    Jeremiah Wright isn’t too jazzed about a nation that officially persecuted his people for hundreds of years.

    Jeremiah Wright is three-quarters white. Who exactly are “his people”?

  60. #717496
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:36 pm, flenser said:

    It turns out that it’s a Christian tea bagging anti-Semitic white guy.

    You can always count on lgm to get the facts wrong.

    Though lgm does seem to be a pretty anti-Christian Jewish guy.

  61. #717499
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:44 pm, tarpon said:

    Weird, I fail to see the Tea Party and Holocaust Museum connection. I guess only someone as dumb as a kosack would.

  62. #717501
    On June 10th, 2009 at 7:46 pm, Hulka said:

    lgm Post 89:

    Many still pray every day for Jews to be converted

    As opposed to muslims that kill those that don’t convert.

  63. #717509
    On June 10th, 2009 at 8:10 pm, Jeff said:

    Prosecutor Larry Jegley declined to comment, citing the gag order.

    The accused has admitted in an interview his actions. Doesn’t that invalidate the order ? Although, I’m sure, I’ll end up gagging at the refusal of the Justice Dept. to fully enforce civil rights violations against the Black Muslim.

  64. #717511
    On June 10th, 2009 at 8:25 pm, Khyris said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    I couldn’t find the entire context of the quote but…
    Here you go:

    You say you’re supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist.

    Funny, he asked for the entire context, not some new truncation of the quote. Did you even bother to click through your own link??

    I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don’t have to be nice to them.

    Isn’t it painfully obvious that this was a denunciation of “false” ideas, along the lines of otherwise-good-people-given-into-temptation, and NOT perjoratively calling them THE anti-christ?

    When people used to rant that newfangled rock music was “the work of the devil,” did you honestly believe they thought the musician was the devil himself?

    No, because such a misrepresentation of the quote would be intellectually dishonest, as it is now. The truncated quote, is not the full quote, is not the full context.

  65. #717513
    On June 10th, 2009 at 8:32 pm, CW4_KGP said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    I wonder if he thinks jokes about pointing guns at Obama & Pelosi are funny?

    I wonder if David Letterman would think it funny? Contessa Brewer?

    Just askin’…..

  66. #717515
    On June 10th, 2009 at 8:33 pm, single stack said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 5:38 pm, Flyoverman said:
    Stephen Johns. A good name. Worthy of honor.
    Well said Rags. Well said.

    Stephen Johns held his ground, and protected the visitors. We should be discussing his courage, his devotion to duty and his sacrifice, not the lunacy of the piece of human debris who shot him.

    Does anyone know the name of the guard who shot Von Brunn? He should also be remembered and honored. He’s the one who prevented a massacre.

  67. #717524
    On June 10th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, Cicero said:

    To the MSM, the shooter will always be a “right wing” extremist. An example of a non-partisan loony would be the Unabomber or an Earth Liberation Front terrorist. They’re never political.

  68. #717525
    On June 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm, right_on said:

    “He has extremely long history with neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He’s written extremely incendiary publications, raging about Jews, blacks and the like.”

    Nazi…Democratic Socialist Party, NOT Conservative/Republican Capitalist Party.

    And just whom did the Progressive Democrats have a love affair with prior to WWII? That would be their idol, the Fascist, “Il Duce” Benito Mussolini.

    The Civil War was fought over slavery; Southern Democrats were for it, and the Northern capitalists rejected it.

    Equal Rights Amendment; um, passed by those “evil” Republican capitalists, while the Southern Democrats railed against it.

    The left’s other champion of democracy, FDR, knew what was going on in the Nazi concentration camps, as did Stalin, but there is no record, as far as I know, that he tried to hasten the liberation of those death camps. Stalin was content to allow the SS to take care of those whom he felt were not worthy of life.

    And yes, Von A-hole was indeed a nut job, and was responsible for his own actions.

    Funny though, how conservatives believe in personal responsibility, compared to the liberals belief in the victim hood of the perpetrator….

    Will there be new “Hate Crime” legislation because of this? Probably not…the targeted assemblage was undoubtedly sympathetic to the plight of the Jews. Although considered “dark skinned” by the Nazi’s, they just aren’t dark enough for the Obamination Administration.

    I’m sure they’ll try to find a way to blame W, even though Von COO-COO had his first shooting episode in 1981…and that was on Jim-may’s watch, no?

  69. #717534
    On June 10th, 2009 at 10:18 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The last time I checked, we conservatives were Israel’s best friends. How can this guy be labeled a “right wing extremist”? He was a “nut extremist”.

  70. #717538
    On June 10th, 2009 at 10:56 pm, brad_sk said:

    Malkin: shooter wasn’t “left” or “right,” just plain loony

    No..you aren’t that sane or playing fair…If he weren’t “right” you would have accused him to be “left”…May be he is from Numbersusa or something similar so you are having to make such statements.

  71. #717541
    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:05 pm, Jeff said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 10:56 pm, brad_sk said:

    Gee…And, maybe, he’s from the KKK democratic party…so, what ?

  72. #717542
    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:07 pm, Jeff said:

    I suppose, Black Muslims killing soldiers in america are less worthy than abortion doctors too ?

  73. #717543
    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:08 pm, Jeff said:

    Why has Obummer told the fbi to ignore black muslim radicals ? Crickets….

  74. #717551
    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:24 pm, crashemt said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 10:56 pm, brad_sk said:

    May be he is from Numbersusa or something similar…

    Maybe. Maybe he’s from MoveOn.org, or 911Truth.org. But you still haven’t produced any FACTS. Just more accusatory, because it feels good for you, typical liberal BS.

    Here’s the plain and simple: Produce evidence (and not the hocus BS that TPM and HuffPo is pulling a “journalism”) and include it in your post, or shut the hell up!

    BTW, here’s mine (emphasis also mine):

    In 1919 Anton Drexler, Gottfried Feder and Dietrich Eckart formed the German Worker’s Party (GPW) in Munich. The German Army was worried that it was a left-wing revolutionary group and sent Adolf Hitler, one of its education officers, to spy on the organization. Hitler discovered that the party’s political ideas were similar to his own. He approved of Drexler’s German nationalism and anti-Semitism but was unimpressed with the way the party was organized.

  75. #717555
    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:40 pm, CJ said:

    Jeremiah Wright isn’t too jazzed about a nation that officially persecuted his people for hundreds of years. I don’t agree with him, but I don’t blame him.

    So hatred and bigotry are okay if your “people” were persecuted? That should cover just about everyone on the planet.

  76. #717560
    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm, chapoutier said:

    But you still haven’t produced any FACTS. Just more accusatory, because it feels good for you, typical liberal BS.

    I’m with ya brother. I friggin hate all those silly libruls with their rank, unsubstantiated speculation. It makes me sick and I am so glad you have taken it upon yourself to impartially and mercilessly call out those poseurs that engage in such typical liberal BS.

    On June 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Misscheryl said:

    anyone wanna guess what religion they are?

    June 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, DagneyT said:
    Thankfully, they got him. Bet ya if his name is Mohammed, we’ll never hear about it.

    On June 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, vinny said:

    Phil we already know his religion, since it is not being reported.

    On June 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, Ragspierre said:

    The terrorist attack on the hotel in Pakistan hardly got a blip yesterday.

    That speech THE ONE gave in Cairo has certainly been paying dividends…

  77. #717582
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:22 am, rightwingmom said:

    My prayers are with the slain security guard’s family.
    This is a terrible senseless tragedy!

    This is a heart-breaking story, but because the gunman is an anti-Semite bigot I’m sure the MSM will give it more air-time than a home-grown terrorist killing a soldier in cold blood. According to the liberal MSM ~ There’s nothing newsworthy to see here folks. A doc who killed 60,000 children is MUCH more important. We all know he’s a martyr now! DISGUSTING!

  78. #717587
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:32 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    On June 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm, chapoutier said:

    I’m with ya brother. I friggin hate all those silly libruls with their rank, unsubstantiated speculation. It makes me sick and I am so glad you have taken it upon yourself to impartially and mercilessly call out those poseurs that engage in such typical liberal BS.

    Chap, there’s no impartiality about it. Islam is evil and Christianity is good. Jesus is gonna open a big can of whip ass on them someday.

  79. #717588
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:38 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:22 am, rightwingmom said:

    The scary thing is that if abortion had been as freely available in the 50s and 60s, many of us would have not been born. I, for one, am so glad that it was delayed. I’m sure my children are, too!

  80. #717592
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:49 am, chapoutier said:

    Chap, there’s no impartiality about it. Islam is evil and Christianity is good. Jesus is gonna open a big can of whip ass on them someday.

    Sorry. I believe you somehow mistook my post for one making a comparison between Christianity and Islam and me for someone that gives a crap about either religion.

  81. #717595
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:57 am, flenser said:

    I friggin hate all those silly libruls with their rank, unsubstantiated speculation.

    You tell ‘em, chappy, What sort of crazy people would hear about an attack on Jews and jump to the conclusion that the perps were Muslims?

    I know you got the sarcasm, I just need to spell it out for the benefit of others here.

    /sarc

  82. #717598
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:07 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:49 am, chapoutier said:

    Chap, there’s no impartiality about it. Islam is evil and Christianity is good. Jesus is gonna open a big can of whip ass on them someday.

    Sorry. I believe you somehow mistook my post for one making a comparison between Christianity and Islam and me for someone that gives a crap about either religion.

    Chap,
    Guess what? I maneuvered you into saying that. I just wanted to see if I could do it.

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