Miranda rights for terrorists: Next, toothbrushes and teddy bears!
Steve Hayes has the scoop on how “the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high value detainees captured and held at U.S. detention facilities in Afghanistan,” according to GOP Representative Mike Rogers, “who recently met with military, intelligence and law enforcement officials on a fact-finding trip to Afghanistan.”
Andy McCarthy says “I told you so.”
Our brilliant friends at The People’s Cube weigh in here and here with a photoshop that is worth thousands of words on the surreal, new world for jihadists. First, Miranda rights. Next, toothbrushes and teddy bears! Meanwhile, al Qaeda snickers:
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I heard that said by a woman on Bill
Bennett’s show this morning. She thought it was the soldiers on the battle field. Who knows? Maybe that’s next on BO’s agenda.
Just another example of extending further civilian control over the military. We saw this happen in Vietnam. As Yogi Berra said, “It’s like deja vu all over again.”
Detainees are the last ones we should tell to be quiet! This is just nuts!
Another chapter in our long, slow national suicide.
Heh. I suppose it depends upon what you consider ‘value’.
So now they have the RIGHT to an attorney?
One will be appointed if they can’t “afford one”?
Is Obama waging jihad?
SEmi-OT:
Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman are threatening to try to organize a filibuster, after the House Progressive Caucus (read- openly Marxist from openly Marxist districts, as compared to the “Blue Dog Caucus” – closeted Marxists from moderate districts) stripped an amendment from the latest war funding bill to bar the release of fresh abu Ghraib pictures, which even Hillary Rodman Clinton thinks would put M.E diplomats and military in increased danger.
Obama is playing both sides, requesting an earlier court ruling favoring the ACLU be appealed to SCOTUS, knowing that since the photos aren’t classified, SCOTUS may uphold the judgement under FOIA.
Did I mention Obama could end all this yesterday by ordering the photos classified?
One silver lining
Kos Kids Klub in fresh conniption over Joe Lieberman.
BTW, I am fully aware Graham has definite McCainish tendencies, so he isn’t perfect.
Back in the day, when some Democrats were actually patriotic and bipartisan, maybe having a few Republicans who weren’t 100% conservative and bipartisan had its occasional advantages.
But now, bipartisanship is a one way street, a code word for rolling over for the Demonrats.
No sir, they all faught to the death…
Would an act of treason, committed by a sitting President, fall under the high crimes and misdemeanors clause and be grounds for impeachment?
They can join Hezbollah, Hamas, PLO, RAF, Black September and any other alphabet soup of a terrorist group down at the ‘Ha-Ha Hole’.
Why do other nations have their own systems of law and constitutions? It appears ours applies to anyone, anywhere on the planet.
Nothing good will come of this.
Try…just try…to imagine a scene from a WWII movie were an FBI agent interrogating a Nazi spy, stops to Marandize the Nazi, advising them they have the right to remain silent, and to have a lawyer.
Next, try to imagine what would have happened to FDR if he had ordered such an inane action.
Terrorists have a right to remain silent?
Is this a joke?
Oh, I get it.
The American president is The Joke!
After what the Dept of Justice did in the case of the New Black Panther Party, we should have no trust in anything they do. Eric Holder has about as much right to be Attorney General as Al Capone should have been Director of the FBI in the 30s.Today it seems that the foxes are in all the chicken coops.
Tell me again that Obama is not a Muslim… what evidence can you present, other than his own words?
Our nation today is a complete and utter JOKE!
And that Sarah Palin…she had it RIGHT again.
And that B. Hussain Obama…he LIED again.
Coming to America, demise and suicide.
IIRC, “Red Square” is an actual survivor of Breshnev era Soviet Russia.
Amazing how people who have actually experiences Marxist statism (like Cubans and Poles) seem to be most opposed to it.
I would not be surprised if this was to be pointed out by argumentative, confrontational, sophistic types:
As far as I am aware, it is virtually impossible to prove a negative.
Believe me, I do not believe anything that the occupant of The White House says; and, I cannot disagree with the majority of the positions of most of the posters here at MM.
However, a hunter and picker of nits, besides ridiculing and dismissing your statement, likely might also point out that, strictly speaking, one cannot prove a negative.
Keep on keeping on.
Ok, Obama was a Muslim, through age 7, per his step-sister, he attended Friday prayers at the mosque every Friday with his step-father in Indonesia, and can give Arabic greetings, and say the muezzin’s call to prayer, in perfectly accented Arabic.
But then he got sent to Hawaii, where his heavy drinking, lefty grand-dad thought he needed a Black paternal figure, hooked him up with Frank Marshall Davis (proud member of the Communist Party-USA), and, well, Obama discovered his true religion, atheism.
Sure, Obama feels some sympathy to all people of color, especially non-Christians, and may have a special warm spot in his heart for Muslims. But most lefties do.
Technically, Obama, by sort of claiming some vague notion of Christianity, is an apostate, but his goals conform wonderfully with radical Islam, so although the only penalty allowed for apostasy is death, expect no fatwas anytime soon.
Good post!
The terrorists now have rights to remain silent about murder, plan their murderous plans in peace and quiet, a right to lawyer, and some nonsense about not being offended. Americans who refuse to die quietly have the right to be ridiculed and publically attacked by their government. This charade needs to be exposed, but I don’t see how the MSM will ever see the light.
Maybe you really believe the Bush line “They hate our freedoms”. If they know about Miranda they will want to kill us more. We are better off pretending to be a religious dictatorship like Saudi Arabia.
I think the opposite. They yearn for our freedoms (well, most of them). The more they know about American justice, they more they will want to imitate it. Miranda is a great lesson in American values. Let’s teach it to them.
This is the same type of thing that lead up to 9/11 in the first place.
Picture this, Soldiers captures a Taiban fighter in Afghanistan and bring him in. The FBI reads him his miranda rights. Next, the CIA comes in to interogate the prisoner and the prisoner says that he is choosing to remain silent and requests a lawyer. The CIA wishes to continue to question him but the FBI says we are sorry he has his right to remain silent, but you can try again once his lawyer arrives. Meanwhile an attack (that the prisoner had knowlegde of) kills the soldiers that originally captured the prisoner.
Another example. The soldier captures the fighter in Afghanistan, but does not collect or maintain a proper chain of evidence. The prisoner is wisked back to the US for his trial and his lawyer says that the evidence has been mishandles; therefore it is inadmisable. The judge concures and the case is dismissed.
Talk about rebuilding the walls between the agencies once again and leaving America vulnerable to attack once again.
Considering that Obama really wants us to be a Muslim nation, he doesn’t want the military trying to find out what the enemy is doing or planning. As far as he is concerned, Muslims are not our enemies. He wants to help them in any way he can to take over this country.
So LGM you think that we should have mirandized the Nazis captured on the battefied?
This is ludicris and I can say without doubt our founding fathers never intended this. IF they had they would have read mirnada rights to the British soldiers captured during the American revolution or the War of 1812 for that matter and history shows that no such thing happened.
FIFY
And how exactly has the Taliban been trying to imitate the American justice system?
I suppose we’re making “progress” here:
- In the Olden Days of Yore, when men were caught on the battlefield bearing arms but not wearing a uniform or any other indicia of military status, they were called bandits, brigands or “unlawful combatants” and summarily executed.
- Then we decided that summary disposition on the battlefield was too harsh, so we created the facility at Guantanamo Bay, where their “special” status meant that they were subject to military tribunals.
- Enter the Age of Hope-a-Dope: “So-called” terrorists are like the donks’ impression of any other unfortunates who run afoul of the law: not “bad,” just “misunderstood.” Indeed, “victims” themselves. So if they’re really no different from shoplifters and check forgers, why deny them their Miranda rights?
Not all “progress” is progress, it seems.
When Cortez conquered the Aztecs, despite being grossly outnumbered, something that helped his troops was that in battle the Aztecs’ preferred tactics were to try to klunk the Conquistador on the head to stun him — so he could be tied up for human sacrifice later on. This didn’t work out well, as the helmeted Conquistador typically responded with a gunshot, sword slash or pike thrust.
Fast forward to today, where our Soldiers and Marines will be trying to arrest terrorists so they can read them their Miranda rights — while the terrorists respond with AKs, RPGs and IEDs.
We’ll see how well that works out.
Lyndon Johnson helped to lose in Vietnam because he tried to micro-manage the battlefield when he should’ve just recognized his limitations and left things alone. Now, instead of learning from history, Hope-a-Dope seems determined to repeat it.
Elections have consequences. At this rate, many Americans will likely pay the ultimate price for putting Democrats in charge of the country. How soon they forget. Bill Clinton set up 9/11 by his approach to things, and Barack Obama is setting up a future “man-made catastrophy.” I pray you don’t live near a high-value terrorist target.
It actually falls under TREASON in the clause for Treason Article II Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/treason_5.htm
Yes, we know. In every circumstance, in every argument.
Bush then is your hero.
Miranda is just case law. The great lesson in American freedom (if they want it) is the founding and the Constitution that resulted from it.
LGM must have never heard Osama bin Laden’s “strong horse” theory. Muslims respect strength, and despise weakness.
The 9-11 plot was put into motion while Clinton was still President, when Janet the Dude Reno would seek indictments for terrorists as regular criminals, and if public outrage was bad enough, a few Tomahawk cruise missiles would hit in Sudan or Afghanistan.
So Obama had al Qaeda clear out of their training camps in Afghanistan in the days before 9-11, sure that million dollar missiles hitting ten dollar tents was the normal US response.
Obama thought the US was the weak horse.
We are the weak horse again. BTW, Bush never quite said it right, they don’t hate us for our freedoms, they hate us because we are a Christian nation, with a healthy number of Jews, Hindus and Buddhists, all peoples the Muslims despise and are usually at war with.
Oh, man!
I think Sybil really believes this!
Cue the late 60s “Summer of Love” – type music, with colorful flowers popping up everywhere, and everyone smiling, holding hands, and gaily skipping through fields of wildflowers….
Not to forget some of the lyrics from “Woodstock”:
And everywhere there was song and celebration
And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Riding shotgun in the sky
And they were turning into butterflies
Above our nation
What could be an easier way to a world safe from murderous, barbaric, crazy Muslim jihadis?
Thanks, that’s what I was looking for.
My pleasure anytime!
Michelle,
I think you should remove the graphic of the jet hitting the trade center building. It should not be used as a political cartoon.
I know what you mean.
Gotta say I have mixed feelings about that photo.
My God, that’s an astonishingly foolish proposition even considering its source. Reflective of one of the great inherent weaknesses of Western liberalism: its Arrogant Ethnocentrism.
There’s a joke that illustrates the point: A man is viciously mugged in New York City. Afterwards, a liberal who witnessed the attack runs up to the dazed and bleeding victim and says, “Wow, you must’ve done something really bad to get him so upset at you!”
Libs just can’t come to grips with a simple fact: Not everything done by those who hate us is in reaction to something we did first. Incredibly enough, other people not only are capable of forming their own belief systems and agendas, but will also act on those beliefs and agendas without waiting around for us to give them an “excuse.”
To my knowledge, only one American taken prisoner by terrorists has survived — and that was only because he managed to escape before the terrorists got around to sawing his head off.
Sometimes, a barbarian is just a barbarian — not a civilized man trapped in a barbarian’s body, hopefully waiting for a liberal to say something nice to set him free.
If someone like an LGM dies one day because he can’t make that distinction, I don’t care; it’s his efforts to take everyone else along with him that I object to.
wow that is patronizing!
The poor oppressed muslims could be just like us if only we would guide them into civilization! They are just too ignorant to know any better. Come, let us show them the way! Once their eyes are opened, the women will be driving and going to school, gays will freely embrace on the streets and Tehran will look like San Francisco. Praise Allah!
We need a Miranda Czar. We need a PC Czar. We need a right wing terrorist Czar. I world would be utopia if we only had more Czars.
First I want to suggest that anyone who took a class or listened to a lecture from this ‘constitutional lawyer’ while he was at UC demand a refund.
Now for a little truth: NO non citizen of the united states is afforded protection under our constitution, that we extend these in some cases is but a courtesy. No non uniformed combatant falls under the Geneva conventions, this is quite clearly spelled out in the document.
Therefore neither Miranda v. Arizona nor Escobedo v. Illinois applies to enemy combatants taken on a foreign battle field and there is no case law that suggests remotely otherwise. And they do not fall under the Geneva conventions- period.
Where exactly did BHO get his law degree? From a box of crackerjack?
Why is anyone surprised? Obama is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. This is not news.
The fight that is being left under reported has to be the fight between the FBI and the CIA. Obama is trying to make the FBI do all this stuff, not the CIA.
The power shift and therefore I’m sure power struggle between those two agencies must be intense.
“Where exactly did BHO get his law degree?”
From the same place that determined he is an expert on the Constitution.
They only have to Mirandize those that they “capture” so don’t “capture” anyone. Just like the illegals in the interior of this country let them go–or do what they do–follow muslim law offer them conversion or behead them. Simple solution–no Miranda needed. Since we are headed for Shira law might as well fight under their rules when on their soil.
and LGM: they have no desire for freedoms they have the Koran. The freedoms we enjoy are against shira law when infidels are caught they convert or die. Don’t you know anything about the Koran?? Get with it–its coming!!
Well, as others have mentioned it I’ll add a third to the above. The image of that airliner at that moment is, to some of us at least, hallowed. Making light of it, even to prove a valid point, doesn’t set well.
Perhaps a caption below the photo — e.g., “Did they get their Miranda rights?” — would be easier to swallow.
But hey, it’s Michelle’s site, she can do what she wants…
Teach it to who, exactly.
I could see teaching it to Muslim governments as a model for police procedure in criminal justice.
But, if you suggest teaching it to Jihadist combatants taken in the field…or cowering in their holes…you are demonstrably out of you mind.
As tax payers we should ask for a refund from the Affirmative Action committe for paying for Obama’s education because he learned nothing!
Sadly I think it will take a terrorist attack with WMD and high casualties that will ultimately result from Obama’s “9/10″
mindset to ultimately wake people up. That combined with crash of the economy as occurred after 9/11 will be the undoing of Obama and his cohorts in the Congress.
Great post.
Hmmm….
Perhaps from a correspondence course he was referred to from the back of a matchbook?
You are correct, sir!
Obama’s law degree is from Harvard law. Since his won’t release transcripts from either Harvard or his undergrad schools, Occidental and Columbia, we have no idea if he was a below average student, an affirmative action admission, or both.
If he was a straight “A” student, I think we’d know.
BTW, Obama was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. The Review has multiple student editors, most voted in by their peers, but also has a policy about ‘diversity’, so some non-Whites are appointed if not elected.
Harvard Law did not come straight after undergrad. He apparently first met Bill Ayers at Columbia, both were active in university leftist groups. Obama apparently went to Harvard Law because he or his handlers decided a law degree was a good resume item for someone seeking elective office.
The more I read lgm’s inane posts, I have to ask myself how he can possibly write that with a straight face. He has to be either completely insane, or one of the most unsung comedy geniuses of this or any other generation!
Aw, c’mon, cpodug.
Ease up on Sybil. Join me in singing The Beatles’ “All You Need Is Love”.
You, too, Sybil.
There, everything should be OK, now.
All the world’s problems solved…right?
Some of you sure grant and give over a lot of power to lgm.
anyone surprised by this isn’t paying very close attention.
BTW, Obama running for a position as one of the editors (or requesting appointment by the diversity committee) was strictly a ticket punch.
He (purposely?) left no paper trail at Harvard.
Fletch is being framed for drug possession by two very large cops]
Fletch: You fellas wanna read me my rights?
Detective #2: You have the right to remain silent. You have the right to have your face kicked in by me. You have the right to have your balls stomped by him.
Fletch: I’ll waive my rights.
And as far as a few mamby pamby hand wringing posts about the use of that photo, I say screw it! We don’t see that photo enough! It is hallowed! That photo should be front and center everyday until everybody finally gets what the real fight is about! Don’t like to see that photo? Tough noogies! Just turn your head and cover your eyes with your hanky! (spit)
Nope, they would blame it all on Boooosh! And the cheerleaders in the MSM would echo it.
Like most libs, lgm lives in a dream world, and reality, logic, and facts are foreign to them.
Maybe they wouldn’t kill if we just understood them better; gave them a group hug. Gad… they have the right to remain silent… permanently ….just shoot them on the battlefield.
Odd that none of the soldiers in the field, or their commanders, have heard of any such rule.
Hook.
Line.
Sinker.
Swallow.
Here is another problem with mirandizing terrorists caught on the battlefield.
The terrorists trial starts and the defense calls the soldier who captured the terrorist to testify.
This would require the soldier to be pulled from the battlefield to testify or face the defense to claim that the government is witholding the witness because they really have no case.
All other considerations aside, it boggles the mind that we would have “law enforcement officials” in a combat zone. As if the military didn’t have enough problems, now they’ll probably face arrest if they shoot first. Talk about screwing things up. I’m tempted to say they can’t get much worse, but as soon as I say that, something worse will happen.
As “Stormin’ Norman” once said, “… the job of the military is to kill people and break things.” Hard to do when you have a cop and, probably, a JD lawyer staring over your shoulder.
Wonder how many unnecessary deaths on our side this policy will cause?
Hey, we’re on the same side here.
I say show the photo, and never forget!
What I wonder about (note, I did not and do not criticize) is whether to use it in a political cartoon.
Prior to the election I made the following a statement,
“If Obama is elected, he will end up killing many innocent Americans.”
I stand by that statement.
I just hope its mostly libs…let them get the change they deserve
Can’t we just read them the warning from the movie Running Scared…
“You have the right to remain dead. Anything you do will be used against you. You have the right to a coroner. If you cannot afford one, we will appoint a medical examiner for you.”
…and then shoot them?
What is mind boggling is the left’s apparent view that the purpose of law enforcement and the military are the same.
What they seem to be implying is that to capture is to arrest. Think about the implications of how they probably view the U.S. military’s role with the civilian population of the United States.
Obama’s proposal for “a Homeland Security Force as well-equpped as the military” coupled with Mirandizing terrorists gives you insight into his view that law enforcement and military operations are indistinguishable.
This dual view is both naive in terms of warm fighting and chilling in terms of domestic law enforcement.
Time to put the Attorney General and the head of the FBI under oath.
So if a detainee requests a lawyer, does this mean there has to be a bank of lawyers in the war zones?
Will the lawyers be civilian or military? If military, could that lawyer object to that duty?
If civilian, what if there aren’t enough civilian lawyers want to travel into dangerous areas and do this kind of work. (Please no lawyer jokes…).
I feel sorry for the military officers…I’d want to just tell my solders to ‘take no captives’..
This is total chaos.
I liked Arnold Schwarzenegger’s comment in Red Heat.
Arnold: Do you know Miranda?”
Bad Guy: Never heard of the *****.
Arnold knocks the bad guy out with his gun.
I think we agree, show the photo. I think where we differ is that you question whether it should part of a political cartoon, where I don’t see it as a cartoon at all, but merely a broad point being made by Michelle, that those unfortunate souls didn’t get Miranda rights before their summary execution.
Post 9/11 I couldn’t understand why all the MSM and television networks kept shying away from showing the planes hitting the towers and the people leaping to their certain deaths for a brief respite from the infernal flames. I soon realized it was all political under the guise of protecting us from the horrific! I say political or not, show it! Show it all! Let me decide what my mind can fathom about man’s ability to render chaos and pain. If it is too much to bear, then I will avert my eyes, but I will know of it. This is our mini holocaust. I will not let it be denied, at least in my mind.
lgm, like you these people embrace what they have been indoctrinated to embrace, and they reject that which they have been indoctrinated to reject. They believe in the Koran and the hereafter–and they reject all else. You are not going to teach them by being weak towards them, which is what they see in all of Obama’s proposed policies towards Jihadist terrorism.
Look at what Democrats do. You and the media demand that the Republican Party join your party in your statist designs in growing government and being “inclusive” and “reaching across the aisle,” and when they do, you go on the offensive and run them into the ground. It’s no different with these people. When you reach out your hand toward them, they cut it off and shove it where the sun don’t shine.
BTW, your talk about “American values” is hilarious coming from an Obama worshiper. American values center around freedom and liberty. American values center around a government that protects and preserves its citizen’s abilities to live their lives the way that THEY dictate, and a society where adults have a sense of responsibility for their own future.
Obama’s policies are anathema to American values. He is a cancer to anything of real value to anyone. Democratic Party policies have created a generation of people who have no sense of responsibility for their own future, and Obama plays on this dependency in his constant campaigning.
The Muslims in the Middle East have nothing to learn from Barack Obama, because his way will lead to the same societal and economic destruction that we are facing.
Yes, show that photo over and over and over again.
Never forget…never.
BTW, on a lighter note, go Stooges:
“I shot a birdie.”
“I shot an eagle.”
“I say, Jasper, what did you shoot?”
“I shot a seven, but they wouldn’t give me the money!”
Exactly!!
This is what happens when the people in power are intellectually incapable of making easy and common sense distinctions between citizens, POW’s, enemy combatants, terrorists, soldiers etc. I’ve said it a million times, but one consistent trait of the average brain dead liberal is a puddle shallow intellect. It is really true, and something like this just proves it again.
Whoa! Let me pour you a cup of decaf there, Mr. Cheddar.
Actually, I think the points of agreement with us “namby-pamby hand-wringers” outnumber and outweigh any differences; my qualm isn’t with showing the image — which should be burned into every American’s memory from early childhood — but rather that it be treated with the respect it deserves. The “word bubble” or whatever it’s called in the rendition above seems a little flippant, even though the underlying message is spot-on.
Every time I see that photo, it’s of like viewing the picture of the flag-raising on Mt. Suribachi but in a different context: everything just goes quiet. No words, no thoughts, just silence and remembrance.
Wouldn’t want it to be any other way.
In the early 70s The Club of Rome published a book called “The Limits to Growth.” It was proto anti-globalization, proto green stupidity wrapped up in pseudo-compassion but was RED through and through.
Obviously Obama read it and believed it even though it has long since been demonstrated as pseudo-intellectual tripe.
The only question I have now is when is someone going to publish a book called “The Limits to Stupidity.” Of course, with this administration every day is a new excursion into that very topic.
WarEagle82, you need to remember what Einstein once remarked,
“The difference between intelligence and stupidity is that there are limits to intelligence.”
No one suggested it was “soldiers in the field”, it’s the FBI…so far.
News flash to Obama and his quorum of clowns….
…therefore, this is only a feel-good policy intended to politicize the WAR ON TERROR.
Please, America…wake up! We must get rid of these people (the fascists now in control of OUR country), before they get rid of us. Our votes do count, especially when we have steel-balled conservatives that put the country’s well-being, above their own.
Who is going to stand up, and take these people to task? Someone with the financial means need to use the U.S. court system to repulse these miscreants and their unconstitutional policies, before the court system gets so contaminated, the people’s only option will be violent revolution. That is something I want to prevent.
Which also implies they do not recognize our Laws of Land Warfare
………… works for me.
Creating new and larger Free Fire Zones!
So…um… are they going to be read their rights in Azeri, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Tatar, Turkish, Turkmen, Uyghur, Uzbek, Tagalog, Minangkabau, Chinese, Sundanese, Javanese and Balinese, Chechen, Albanian, Bosnian Serbian, Russian, Arabic, Farsi, Spanish, French and English? I doubt thay are going to volunteer where they are from. Maybe if we waterboarded them they might.
Communication from two American soldiers in Afghanistan: “HQ, we’ve got a captured overseas contingency operator here. we’re not sure if he’s Kazakh or Kyrgyz, so send us a copy of both. Hurry up, cause we’re under enemy fire. Nevermind, he just took one from enemy sniper fire.”
I know, I know, extreme. Just trying to point out how stupid this Miranda idea is.
Has anyone actually seen his law degree?
I think the reason for the Miranda rights thing is payback to lawyers, as is bringing detainees to the USA for trial, and many other things designed to provide jobs for one of the biggest and most reliable of the liberal constituency groups of the Democrat Party. Lawyers multiply like roaches, coming out of law school by the thousands. Each one of them, and the current ones, all expect to immediately get a high-paying job. Have you noticed the many lawyer TV ads begging someone, anyone, to sue for something, anything?
It’s completely out of control and is a huge expense and burden on our economy by intentionally making everything as complicated as possible, and encouraging as many frivolous lawsuits as possible.
Fewer lawyers=a better America
Key element in this story? Congress apparently not briefed on this. Nancy Pelosi fallout? Ignorance is bliss?
He went to law school? Thought for sure he and his administration buddies went to clown school.
You don’t see architects advertising on tv. It’s about dignity.
right_on said (#82):
Miranda is not a sign of fascism.
No, Michelle has it on the head. We need more than tasteless grave humor to get people out of this Kum-Bi_Ya affliction spreading from the WH. We’re going to CONTINUE to get more of this pampering of terrorists (and pirates) nonsense until a crowded mall is blown up or a city is vaporized because our “protectors” are more scared as hell of tweaking a bastard’s pinkie. I’m hearing “Gitmo people are people too” crap leaking out of my grand kids’ grammar schools! We need MORE truly graphic reminders of what this country is up against, like the 911 plane impacts, the videos of people leaping, the firemen on the ground hearing them hit, and the beheading videos.
Tasteless exploitation? Maybe — but rather have a good terrible reminder for the OB-dazzled out there of what these poor mad choirboys can do!!
James Greenidge
Queens, NY
One inevitable result of this policy is to raise the tensions between the agencies we depend on for our security and intelligence.
The military will be MUCH more reluctant to pass detainees along to the civil authorities, and will only do so after they feel they have extracted any useful intelligence from them.
The CIA and the FBI, charged with utterly diametrically opposed imperatives, will be at logger-heads.
It could not be a worse trend if it were planned, and is doomed to return us to the state of Clinton-era national security.
America gets less safe by the day.