The DHS “right-wing extremism” report and the Holocaust shooter
Vindication! Vindication! Apologize! Apologize!
This is the gleeful mantra on the Left side of the blogosphere and cable TV.
A father/security guard/hero is dead and all these political opportunists can do is gloat about “vindication” that isn’t there.
I linked Greyhawk’s post on this issue at Mudville Gazette yesterday, but I am linking it again today. Read the whole thing. It’s updated with a powerful rejoinder from Fox News contributor Col. Ralph Peters, who takes on some of his fellow Fox colleagues parroting the “DHS report has been vindicated” propaganda.
Greyhawk reminds you of what the DHS report actually said:
DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists–including lone wolves or small terrorist cells–to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
* (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military veterans–including Timothy McVeigh–joined or associated with rightwing extremist groups.
* (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces.”
* (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups
And who the Holocaust shooter actually is:
[Shephard] Smith and [Catherine] Herridge know they’re talking about a guy who claims to be an 89-year old WWII veteran. Unless he crashed a PT boat through the front doors of the Holocaust Museum, any military training from back in ‘42 was not a factor.
Peters’s response and video clip via Greyhawk:
“Neil, I gotta say something. On Fox News of all places in the last hour I heard that this tragic incident at the Holocaust Museum somehow validates the disgraceful report from the Department of Homeland Security warning about a terror threat from our returning veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan. Neil, this guy served in World War Two. He’s been out of the military 64 years. He wasn’t career military, he was a career nut. Ten million Americans served in World War Two, of the millions who survived are you going to put them on a terrorist watch list? It had nothing to do with the Department of Homeland Security report.”
As I said on Glenn Beck’s radio show this morning, the Holocaust Museum shooter was an equal-opportunity hater and a lifetime loon.
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I left out property owner.
A point that the statists, collectivists, socialists, government power-expanders, opposite worldview-holders, etc. will never consider.
After all, why be confused with facts when one’s mind is made up?
The way a report for a government agency works is about its source. A government agency is not going to come out and support a person, group of people, movement that says government is too big. It is a GOVERNMENT report. Anyone who wants less government in the government’s mind is a threat.
Of course anyone who wants less government is a threat to the government. It is sad that so many folks just buy into the report without asking serious and critical questions.
Bet they would if it was a pharmacy conglomerate issuing a report that said we need more prescription based medications and less over the counter drugs and that anyone who supports over the counter medication is a threat and needs to be “watched” carefully.
you know I’ll bet they didn’t say a word about the army guys getting killed at the recruiting station….
thats uh diversity for ya..
You’re wasting your valuable time trying to reason with someone who really believes it. It never crossed my mind that anyone here is on that list…but if someone really thinks that they are…then they must identify with extremists minus the gonads to act on it. *shrug*
psst. Most of the population(and people I work with) are not partisan hacks like us.
They talk about everything without making it a right/left conversation. (my wife is a perfect example of such a person.)
Pretty good, man. We’re meeting in a few minutes to discuss the possibility of swapping Pat Buchanan for Sheppard Smith. We figured it would be a better fit for Shep to be at MSNBC and Pat fits in perfectly at Fox News.
And this old granny loves both of you!!
How about a two-for-one trade? We’ll take Pat and you can have Shep and Jerry Rivers! Pretty please??
but apparently they talked about this incident in a political context…
so did they even talk about the army shooting??
You beat me to it!
no, they didn’t…just like my wife didn’t. They called him an extremist…and didn’t use the words right or left.
Sure they did. They referred to that shooter as a terrorist the same as they did Scott Roeder.
Do you not interact with people who aren’t political junkies? Personally, I don’t know a single person besides me who keeps up with the silly crap on political blogs.
Regardless of the frog-fur argument that Chaps uses, that the DHS report applied only to violent groups, that isn’t the way MOST people read it. Not people on the right, or people on the left. People.
My thinking is that the intent was to suppress opposition to statist doctrine, which is certainly a statist urge.
The EFFECT of the report has been precisely that.
Sure
btw, I live in Hooterville, SC…if you really think I am amongst a bunch of liberals here…that’s hilarious.
He ran a nutbar whacked out web site, and he tried to take the Federal Reserve Board of Governors hostage to put them on trial during the Carter Administration.
This guy is sort of North Wing, where the Left goes so far they almost become Right and vice versa. Patrick Buchanan’s suspicions about the Jews and ‘necons’ is an example.
But if there was anybody DHS should have been watching who hadn’t converted to Islam in prison and visited Yemen, von Loon was it.
You should really get out more and meet people.
I simply think you are lying about that.
your own words say they did…
if they didn’t care about the politics, they wouldn’t have mentioned this DHS report
most people are aware of the political implications of any given incident whether they are ‘political junkies’ are not…
Let’s remember the roots of white supremacy. Democrats. Democrats. Democrats.
moonshot = Lindsay Graham?
What’s that saying about arguing on the internet?
Anyway, have a nice day in Blogisphere Land.
lol
Low blow, mister! I wash my hair daily, thankyouverymuch!
Yeah but they became Dixiecrats and eventually republicans(except for Byrd)after Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act. My grandfather was one of those who switched parties for that very reason.
One did say the same thing, and you’re him.
Moonshot, you’re worse than RSS with that “Southern Strategy” hogwash. Please, just give it a rest.
Chap,
fyi: the Federal Reserve is not part of the Federal Government
You do realize how that silly that is, don’t you? I’m kinda surprised (and a little disappointed) that you’d make such an outlandish analogy.
Yeah, grandpa, Thurmond and Helms etc. were attracted to the republican party for their fiscal conservatism and not for racial reasons.
you mean like Wallace, Hollings, etc?
other than strom thurmond, who are the rest of these racists that came into the republican party?
this is just left-wing talking points…
oh do you think the guy at your gas station looks like Gandhi??
Been a little busy today, so I’m just getting around to this. The lunatic says he is a WWII Veteran? Does he say which side he fought on?? Just sayin’.
“There is no warrant for the curious notion that Christianity favors the involuntary commingling of the races in social institutions. Although He knew both Jews and Samaritans and the relations existing between them, Christ did not advocate that courts or legislative bodies should compel them to mix socially against their will.”
–Sen. Sam Ervin (D., N.C.), 1955
Chairman, Committee on Government Operations, 1971-75
“The decline and fall of the Roman empire came after years of intermarriage with other races. Spain was toppled as a world power as a result of the amalgamation of the races. . . . Certainly history shows that nations composed of a mongrel race lose their strength and become weak, lazy and indifferent.”
–Herman E. Talmadge, 1955
Democratic Senator from Georgia, 1957-81
Chairman, Committee on Agriculture, 1971-81
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”
–Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957
“I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes.”
–Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, 1961
Kennedy later authorized wiretapping the phones and bugging the hotel rooms of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr
“The Confederate Memorial has had a special place in my life for many years. . . . There were many, many times that I found myself drawn to this deeply inspiring memorial, to contemplate the sacrifices of others, several of whom were my ancestors, whose enormous suffering and collective gallantry are to this day still misunderstood by most Americans.”
–James Webb, 1990
Now a Democratic Senator from Virginia
“Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”
–Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D., S.C.) 1993
Chairman, Commerce Committee, 1987-95 and 2001-03
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 1984
“I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”
–Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), 2004
Chairman, Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008
psst right4life…they happily elected an African American president. Meanwhile, my old Governor, grandpa and Helms are rolling in their graves.
psst right4life…they happily elected
anlying, mystic, radical Alinskite, racist African American narcissist megalomaniac president.Edited for accuracy.
r4l, didn’t you get lgm’s memo? The Republicans and Democrats have swapped value systems. lgm says that the Republicans started the KKK.
Unless apparently, you are trying to link its decisions you don’t like to the Obama admin, right?
Also, going over those posts, I noted a lot of animosity toward the Fed from some of the posters here, “corrupt system” “biggest fraud ever conceived” a “scam”…just to name a few choicer comments. But maybe those posters are just lefties in sheep’s clothing.
Nice Dem quotes.
As for the Fed – you’ve all been buying gold, right?
Can we all agree that this guy is a nut case and doesn’t represent any of us?
“then they must identify with extremists minus the gonads to act on it.”
So we’re extremist but cowardly? Extremist with no gonads to act on our beliefs? That’s what we are now?
Except happyscrapper and Salt.
I keed. I keed.
“this guy is a nut case and doesn’t represent any of us?”
Yes.
And for those who are comfortable with the generic “extremist” label, why are you okay with that? To be labeled extremist it has to be in comparison to something else. Extremist as compared to what? In regards to what beliefs? Using the word extremist is still an attempt to lump this crazy loon into a particular left or right wing context even if its subtle.
Chap, no I was simply pointing it out as a matter of interest.
I have my suspicions about the relationship between the Fed and the U.S. govt. and how it affects all of our lives. I certainly understand why someone would be angry with the Fed, but they also need to be angry at our government’s involvement, and to be angry at themselves for continuing to allow this stuff to go on. I’m not sure what you mean by the “lefties in sheeps clothing” comment…
psst moonie..we weren’t talking about that…you were talking about all the dixiecrats that became republican…you can’t handle the truth, so you have to switch the subject.
nice try.
and your VP is a RACIST. they elected him too.
psst right4life…I voted for John McCain. I’m a RINO.
I have to like you now for calling me moonie. That’s what my friends call me in real life.
pssst moonie…if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a liberal!!
well, according to you guys McCain, baby girl McCain, Colin and Gates are not republicans so I’m alright with being in their company.
I’ve posted this before, but…
a.) The so-called “Southern strategy” is a myth, an excusatory theory Democrats use to blame for their losing the South.
b.) If not a myth then where’s the empirical evidence to prove, as you assert, the strategy worked? Many southerners still vote Democrat, as there are southern Democrats in the US House and in state houses throughout the South.
c.) The strategy is racist, as it assumes racism is innate to southerners and reflects a desire on the part of southern whites block voting to hold back an entire segment of society based on skin color. If true, then why are there so many successful African-Americans in the South in all professions and walks of life, and with many more moving there on a daily basis from northern states?
d.) The strategy also assumes southerners are too feeble minded to make an informed decision at the polls and can manipulated by even the most loosest of theories into uniformly voting for one particular party. If true, then why did the South vote for Jimmy Carter and why do Republicans in national campaigns still have to spend so much money and time there in national elections? Shouldn’t the entire South be a given for the right wing?
Colin voted for Obama…doesn’t that make him a DEMOCRAT????
megan (mooooo) mccain is just like her father…..global warming, mccain-feingold….no drilling in alaska…against bush tax cuts…yeah mccain is real conservative there..
gates?? who?
dude, were you born and raised in the South? I was and I don’t even know a single democrat, my entire extended family is highly racist(the only reason I think differently is part a long story and I was born a freak of nature here) and yes SC is a sure thing for republicans.
There’s a lot of ‘polite’ racism here.
I wondered the same thing myself. How many crack journalists are checking w/the DOD to see if he actually served the US?
I made a comment in a previous post linking the effects of this DHS report to that cancer of cancers, profiling. More can be read about that idea here:
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/
I’m guessing you think these people are leftist too lol
http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/296911
I haven’t been around for a bit so I nearly missed this.
How did I get pulled into this?