Why they hate us

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 11, 2009 11:42 AM

Don Surber looks at the liberal hatred of conservative women in the public sphere:

Too many American liberals cannot handle a strong, good-looking, intelligent, independent woman who disagrees with them — and so they make the crude, cruel and sexist remarks — including those about raping them or their 14-year-old daughters…

…So-called feminists stand on the sidelines like so many Silda Spitzers or Elizabeth Edwardses or Hillary Clintons, standing by their menfolk while the boys treat women like dirt. Heck, Mrs. Edwards even served as her husband’s attack dog against any critic — even as she knew he was sleeping with his mistress of many years…

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  1. #1
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am, granite said:

    Just forther confirmation of what I have stated before, from time to time:

    Socialists, statists, collectivists, existentialists, opposite worldview-holders, etc. are likely the older – but not grown-up – versions of the pain-in-the-a$$ types who would go out of their way to be annoying in high school, and who started the “underground” student newspaper.

  2. #2
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am, granite said:

    umm…further….
    Apologies.

  3. #3
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:49 am, englishqueen01 said:

    I think he’s close, but he’s missing the notion that liberals think they own women, and that’s the impetus for their hatred of conservative women who dare wander away from their benevolent masters.

    My husband, father, and most of my male friends are conservative. One of my friends, whom I love dearly, is a liberal – and he’s the only man who’s ever said disparaging things about my political views and beliefs. My more liberal female friends and acquaintances are also the ones who accused my husband of “brainwashing” me when I became conservative and converted to Catholicism.

    So I don’t think this is a coincidence.

  4. #4
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:50 am, Laree said:
  5. #5
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:54 am, Laree said:

    Tammy Bruce is twittering the David Letterman’s nastiness for nastiness sake..

    http://www.tammybruce.com/

  6. #6
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am, simcoe said:

    So many conservative women have a force behind them and within them that a liberal would never understand, nor could they know. Most conservative women know right from wrong (something that liberal folk lack the capability of discerning) and are immoveable in their beliefs.

  7. #7
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am, goodforlaughs said:

    The so called feminists are silent, again. Where is the outrage? What else could we expect, afterall, this is the child of a conservative family. It’s really irrelevant as to which daughter he is talking about. The rest of us know this boorish puke would never say anything so nasty about a lib female.

  8. #8
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am, Laree said:

    Hey I bet that woman whatser name, that thought Michelle Malkin deserved to be targeted in that playboy article…I bet she is outraged by David Letterman…NOT.

  9. #9
    On June 11th, 2009 at 11:58 am, jangar said:

    It’s all about obtaining power, fame, money, etc. Doesn’t matter who or what they walk all over to get there. No active conscience, no sense of wrong, complete lack of integrity. What they gain now will be their only reward.

  10. #10
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, HaileTsada said:

    I wonder if Alex Rodriguez is happy with David Letterman for suggesting that Alex is not above raping 14 year old girls. Even though it would be statutory rape, I doubt if he’s happy about Letterman dirtying up his name like that. What does that say about how Letterman is stereotyping the Mexican people like this?

  11. #11
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, palani said:

    Michelle, your comments were spot-on this morning on Fox & Friends.

    Truth is, liberals hate anyone who disagree with them, especially women and minorities who stray off the plantation.

    Watch any talk show with the sound muted and you can identify the liberals. They’re the ones with the perpetual scowl and the air of condescension.

  12. #12
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, palani said:

    Watch any talk show with the sound muted and you can identify the liberals. They’re the ones with the perpetual scowl and the air of condescension.

    Do not forget their phony-smile smirk….

  13. #13
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, Vic said:

    If Palin had just aborted Willow, then Letterman wouldn’t have been compelled to insult her. See? It’s all Palin’s fault.

    /sarc

  14. #14
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, pueblo1032 said:

    Amazing how LIBS are frightened by STRONG MINDED WOMEN… The kind that are not in the SHEEPLE category… They are scared to the bone of people like PALIN, MALKIN, and KELLY… A business associate from my younger days had a BRILLIANT saying hanging behind his desk in the 70s… “ANY WOMAN WHO SEEKS TO BE EQUAL WITH MAN, LACKS AMBITION… Wise words then, even more wise now…

  15. #15
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:12 pm, simcoe said:

    For the most part liberal women, and men, seem to be driven by their emotions and hate and anger are among the strongest. Regardless of a liberal’s age they haven’t been able to grasp the benefit of self-control. They want to give in to their lusts and emotions.

    They say:
    I want what I want and that’s not you! You conservatives make me feel uncomfortable about myself and my being. I may look like a man or a woman but I’m really only one and a half years old.

  16. #16
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, Socky said:

    Two semi related Notes:

    1. Kathleen Parker says Sarah Palin had it coming to her.

    2. CNN is giving Joy Behar her own chat show. Yeah, this should stop their slide into ratings oblivion.

  17. #17
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:14 pm, PhredE said:

    Didn’t you all get the memo?

    If you’re a liberal/progressive, it is impossible for you to hate…
    The presumption of tolerance, acceptance, and diversity applies universally … so long as you think the same way they do…

    (1/2 sarc, 1/2 serious)

  18. #18
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:14 pm, chapoutier said:

    The so called feminists are silent, again.

    An article from HuffPo.

  19. #19
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, flmom said:

    There is a certain parallel between the liberal hatred of Conservative women and Black Conservatives and the hatred the radical Muslims have for the West. Mainly it’s about control, and without that control there is a very big threat to both the liberal and radical Muslim worldview. Radical Muslims and Liberals cannot handle different ideas and consequently both lash out, liberals with invective and radical Muslims with force.

  20. #20
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, J S Ragman said:

    …So-called feminists stand on the sidelines like so many Silda Spitzers or Elizabeth Edwardses or Hillary Clintons, standing by their menfolk while the boys treat women like dirt.

    Well, let me see if I can possibly view this through a (obviously distorted) liberal lens. “But, if their philandering should produce an unintended pregnancy, my strong liberal sister can exercise her reproductive rights and terminate it without guilt.”

    No, that doesn’t make much sense to me either, but it did make my brain hurt.

  21. #21
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, Mister P said:

    Feminism is dead. Liberals are living in the 19th century. They are trying to bring us down, as they cope with life in the 21st century. They will lose.

  22. #22
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, Socky said:

    On a more related note I have some theories about the vitriol the left directs at Sarah Palin. Mostly, I chalk it up to Envy, Guilt, and General Hatred Toward All Things Good and Decent. Some of it applies to the vitriol against MM, too.

  23. #23
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, spaceycakes said:

    The entire left will never overcome the jealous hatred of a woman who is: content in her femininity, intelligent, attractive, sensuous, faithful and conservative.
    They simply cannot believe that a woman can be all of those things & be successful.

  24. #24
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Mister P said:
    Feminism is dead. Liberals are living in the 19th century. They are trying to bring us down

    Certainly the so-called feminists are trying to bring all women down.
    Misery loves company.

  25. #25
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:21 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, Socky said:

    Good article.
    Thank you.

    The opposite worldview-holders do, after all, see the world differently!

  26. #26
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:23 pm, iamsaved said:

    I’ve always found it strange that the liberals, who consider Sarah Palin as someone who is inexperienced, inept, and totally inconsequential and to be totally ignored, spend so much time degrading and condeming her.

    Methinks they dost protest too much. In other words, they are deathly afraid of her politically. All the more reason for conservatives to rally around her and defend her against these lowlife, vicious attacks. They aren’t only attacking Sarah Palin, they are attacking something that threatens them and their shallow existence – down home conservatism that is prevalent in fly over country.

  27. #27
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, jangar said:

    It all boils down to eliminating the opposition the Alinsky way.

  28. #28
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, DanMan said:

    “They simply cannot believe that a woman can be all of those things & be successful.” and content…

    I’m still trying to square the apology from Letterman. He said the comment wasn’t meant to be directed towards the 14 year old. How does that fix anything?

    And Chappy, read the comments below the story over there. That’s your crowd baby.

  29. #29
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:26 pm, Socky said:

    Thanks Granite. :-)

  30. #30
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, spaceycakes said:

    The entire left will never overcome the jealous hatred of a woman who is: content in her femininity, intelligent, attractive, sensuous, faithful and conservative.

    They simply cannot believe that a woman can be all of those things & be successful.

    Correct.

    They simply cannot believe that a woman can be all of those things & be successful.

    As I said above, opposite worldview-holders really do see the world differently!

  31. #31
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    2. CNN is giving Joy Behar her own chat show.

    The first TV talk show with no guests?

  32. #32
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, nbarry said:

    The political feminist movement is dominated by lesbians who don’t give a rat’s donkey about heterosexual women beyond fundraising. They have been lobbying for their pet causes for so long, they have become political insiders who are out of touch with the real world.

  33. #33
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    The first TV talk show with no guests?

    And no audience.

  34. #34
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Rape?

    Coming from MM, who practically stalks Michelle Obama, I don’t think these words could ring any more hollow.

    And no, no conservative ever said demeaning things about Hillary Clinton. Or Janet Reno.

  35. #35
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Ragspierre said:

    There is nobody an in-group reserves more venom for than a defector.

    The statists are the biggest in-group of which I know.

    They assume they are speaking authoritatively for any group they think comprises their base…any oppressed anything. An extreme example are the animal rights people who pretend to speak for that “interest”.

    Statists hate people like MM, Justice Thomas, and Tammy Bruce with a deep, dark, glowing hatred reserved for defectors…regardless of the fact that they may not have even been one of them.

  36. #36
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Having grown up in a Democrat household, the youngest boy with only older sisters to look up to, I can say now that these are not the ideals I was taught.
    Just another reason I “strayed from the fold” I guess.

  37. #37
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Red State Bigot said…

    Total bullspit.

  38. #38
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pm, dan708 said:

    The libby media types remind me of those naughty little kids who are caught red-handed in some sort of mischief, then get mad when they get their little hineys spanked. Of course they end up hating the spanker, except for the gay marriage types, maybe!

  39. #39
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:46 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Letterman: “I don’t know what all the hoopla is about. I only said she looked like a slutty flight attendant and that her daughter was knocked up by A-Rod. It’s not like I called them nappy-headed hos!”

  40. #40
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pm, jangar said:

    The Demolibs do a very good job telegraphing their targets. Their guy won and yet they continue to keep the former VP candidate in the crosshairs.

    This tells 2 things:

    They know that their side is overloaded with extreme crap that the average voter can easily spot, especially since 2006, and…

    Conservatism is effective, thus draws all the flack.

  41. #41
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pm, IndyRich said:

    I think he’s close, but he’s missing the notion that liberals think they own women,

    Same goes for hispanics, blacks, the gay/lesbian crowd, union members, …..

    RedState – What’ve you been smokin’???

  42. #42
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:55 pm, 24Klady said:

    Red State
    Take a stroll through the PUMA sites if you want to see vitriol about our tacky first lady. You have to remember, not all liberals drank LovePotion #9. And, surprisingly, they are more upset and vocal about Letterman’s remarks than most conservative sites. Good on them! They somehow don’t get how a 50 cent comedian can justify assaulting a child and think it’s OK.

  43. #43
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, rotarymunkey said:

    It’s already apparent that, unless Gov. Palin is caught sleeping with the Mexican National Soccer team while accepting cash for smuggling underage, drunk Chinese prostitutes into the country in association with Elliot Spitzer, she’ll be in control of the GOP by 2010…

    This woman is too much of a deft operator, compared to the RINO desk-jockeys currently running the GOP. Her mannerisms, speech patterns, and thinking all resonate strongly with conservatives. By the time Obama’s reached the mid-terms, EVERYONE who voted for him (outside of the truly lib-brainwashed, under-performing masses) will be in serious buyer’s remorse and will be looking for SOMEONE with an ability to lead without sounding preachy and hypocritical.

    That SOMEONE will be Sarah Palin, and liberals should be commended for helping to identify and strengthen her position now. The more they nip at her, the better she gets at handing them their asses on a plate, smiling all the while. By 2012 she’ll be ready to run for President of the US.

    Never forget her Acceptance Speech: “But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed … when the roar of the crowd fades away … when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot – what exactly is our opponent’s plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he’s done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer is to make government bigger … take more of your money … give you more orders from Washington … and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world.”

    Exactly what Obama’s done in 5 months… Scary.

  44. #44
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pm, scituate_tgr said:

    spaceycakes said: They simply cannot believe that a woman can be all of those things & be successful.

    It may as simple as what their definition of “successful” is, as there are many ways to measure success.

  45. #45
    On June 11th, 2009 at 12:59 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I think I could support a Palin/Jindal or Jindal/Palin ticket in 2012…

    If we still have free elections, of course.

    If Barack Hussein gives us the Saddam Hussein style 99.9% type elections, with the 0.1% dropped off buildings, well, I might still just take my chances.

  46. #46
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Rape?

    Willow Palin is 14 years old. Alex Rodriguez is 33 years old. In New York, sex with a girl Palin’s age is statutory rape, ergo, it’s rape. If A-Rod slept with her, he’d go to jail and have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

    It’s scary and pathetic how you’re so willing to undermine the serious nature of rape. Both here, with a minor, and in the other threat – where you had the audacity to call “hatef**k” “passionate sex with someone you dislike.” Which doesn’t imply consent. And I asked my husband, who doesn’t really post or visit here, what the term “hatef**k” meant and his response was, “Sounds like rape to me.”

    You’re a prime example of how, soon, consent will no longer be a criteria for sexual relationships, since you obviously refuse to apply the concept here.

    Coming from MM, who practically stalks Michelle Obama, I don’t think these words could ring any more hollow.

    Please, by all means, show me where MM has advocated for the sexual assault of Mrs. Obama or – for that matter – one of the Obama daughters.

    Michelle points out the obvious hypocrisy in Michelle Obama’s actions. She demands us to sacrifice and give because her husband tells us to, but then they go and do the exact same thing they chide us for doing.

    But good try at obfuscation.

  47. #47
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Sad truth ~ too many “yellow dog” democrats won’t pay attention to the truth.

    My 91 year old grandmother is an example. She’s ALWAYS voted D and WILL ALWAYS vote D even though she recently criticized O as “screwing up faster than any President she’d ever seen.” If she’s around in 2010 (and I hope she is..I love my Nanny!) she’ll still “pull the BIG D lever” w/out understanding a single issue!

  48. #48
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Let’s take a step back even further….

    Leftist, statist, can not tolerate anyone, white, male, female, black, homosexual, anyone who has both stood on their own two feet AND endorses standing on your own two feet. Anyone who succeeds without the help of the government is hated. So if a woman succeeds by her own effort without the help of NOW or affirmative action, that woman will be despised. It is not because she is a she. It is because she is independent.

    Making the hatred about Palin being a woman is understandable but it misses the idealogical source of the left’s hatred. NOW can absolutely be silent about a conservative woman being based. Makes perfect sense to me and most likely to them. They see no inconsistency with their core values.

    NOW supports women that NOW as well as other women see as women AND dependent helpless victims. Its AND.

    If a woman is independent, won’t go for the dependent victim thing, not only does NOW not offer any support, NOW tries to destroy them. Independent non-victim women are a threat to NOW’s existence.

    The truth of that is consistent across the board with all these leftist, statist, help the victim of…., organizations and political parties.

    Independent self sufficient people, men-women-white-black-brown-etc., are a threat and need to be destroyed.

    The battle is between dependent vs. independent. Slave to government and victim groups vs. free and self sufficient.

    From that framework you can watch it all unfold quite easily. Why do we need government run health care? Because the problem is so big and we so helpless as individuals we can’t do anything to fix it. We must accept a dependent position and turn over our freedom regarding health care to the government.

    So it makes perfect sense that a leftist statist organization like NOW will never support someone like Gov. Palin.

    Or the NAACP will never support Justice Thomas….

    You could go on and on with examples….

  49. #49
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:01 pm, rambler said:

    These lefty attackers seem to be so insecure. Are their beliefs so fragile that an opposing opinion has to be suppressed? They have enough on their plates managing their own lives without telling others how to live. These people have no self control. They are like little children who don’t like being told what to do because it spoils their fun. Self control comes from achieving adulthood. Even if the left got everything they wanted, that would still not be enough. They would rather whine, complain and attack rather than create real solutions for any problems. It’s easy to scapegoat and blame others. The current climate created by the left today reminds me of “Lord of the Flies”. None of these people are interested in true equality; only equality for those who agree with them.

  50. #50
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “Gov. Palin is caught sleeping with the Mexican National Soccer”

    I can play a little soccer and speak a little Spanish, both about equally well. Does that mean I have a shot?

  51. #51
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Red State said

    Coming from MM, who practically stalks Michelle Obama, I don’t think these words could ring any more hollow.

    And no, no conservative ever said demeaning things about Hillary Clinton. Or Janet Reno.

    Sight ONE example of MM wishing rape on ANY of these women, their daughters, or family members!

    Exposing Marxist ideals and liberal progressive agendas does not equal “stalking!”

  52. #52
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:08 pm, Avi Green said:

    I don’t know how many of you read comic books, or how many of you are familiar with DC Comics’s misogynist screed called “Identity Crisis” which was also a subtle form of Blame America/The Victim propaganda, but when I read about this now, it makes me think of how Jean Loring, the ex-wife of the Silver Age Atom/Ray Palmer, must’ve surely been exploited by the editors of that sick book to serve as an allusion to what Don describes: in a manner of speaking, she’s an intelligent, good-looking, and independent working woman, and they turned her into a villainess for that. And after people like that are done taking out their anger on fictional characters who’ve never harmed any innocent soul in real life, they’ll go after real-life women too.

    In fact, now that I think of it, this is just why Marvel’s editors wanted to throw out Mary Jane Watson-Parker as the wife of Spider-Man: because she too is the kind of lady Don speaks of.

  53. #53
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Red is just using a worn out tactic of equating non-equal matters as if they are morally equivalent to make a point right. Its an old rather sophomoric trick that the left does all the time.

    A good example is equating criticism with hate speech.

    So Rush Limbaugh is a hate monger.

    Nothing that was said fairly or unfairly about Mrs. Bill Clinton or Janet Reno equals rape a 14 year old. But that doesn’t matter to a person who thinks the way a liberal thinks. If one can get close enough on the “moral equivalence” scale, then the are equal enough you see to make some point that sounds good.

    Of course they aren’t even close but that doesn’t matter. What matters is it sounds good enough to make them equivalent.

  54. #54
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Socialists, statists, collectivists, existentialists, opposite worldview-holders, etc. are likely the older – but not grown-up – versions of …

    Most conservative women know right from wrong (something that liberal folk lack the capability of discerning)

    Today’s government-run schools teach children from kindergarten on up that there is no such thing as absolute truth, and “what is right for you is not necessarily right for someone else… what you think is ‘right’ is the result of your prejudices”.

    We have raised entire generations that do not have the proper fundamental moral background, so we should not be surprised that we are reaping a totalitarian government and media.

    President Harry Truman tried to warn us:

    The most important business in this Nation–or any other nation, for that matter-is raising and training children. If those children have the proper environment at home, and educationally, very, very few of them ever turn out wrong. I don’t think we put enough stress on the necessity of implanting in the child’s mind the moral code under which we live.

    The fundamental basis of this Nation’s law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don’t think we emphasize that enough these days.

    If we don’t have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.

    -President Harry S. Truman

    It is precisely because we have gotten away from teaching children the moral code under which we live that we now have whole generations that don’t believe in “right” or “wrong”.

    Democrats who do have a moral foundation are becoming Republicans as they come to this realization.

    Witness Evan Sayet.

    And his brilliant follow-up speech at the Heritage Foundation Address this year.

  55. #55
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, jangar said:

    rotarymunkey said:
    It’s already apparent that, unless Gov. Palin is caught sleeping with the Mexican National Soccer team while accepting cash for smuggling underage, drunk Chinese prostitutes into the country in association with Elliot Spitzer, she’ll be in control of the GOP by 2010…

    Her first obstacle to overcome is the current mess in the GOP that hardly seems to be interested in anything conservative. Right now, Palin is her own island, but we’ll see.

  56. #56
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Good post.
    Agreed…the examples are virtually endless.

    It’s that damn “(A) Conflict of Visions” thing, as discussed so well by the great writer Thomas Sowell.

  57. #57
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Jvette said:

    Red State Skeptic:

    I have no problem with insults regarding looks, policies or in general. Yea, conservatives have laughed about liberal women and their looks. So what?

    Give me one example where a conservative has called for their rape or any physical injury to them merely because they hold different political views.

    Lastly, liberals claim tolerance, choice and relativism yet they savage anyone whose beliefs are different than theirs.

    Imagine if Carrie Prejean had been on the opposite side of the gay marriage debate and then been fired for speaking her opinion honestly.

    Liberals are liars and hypocrites. Liberal women are unhappy, bitter shrews who have no problem with conservative women being threatened with physical harm or having their family attacked if it advances their agenda.

  58. #58
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Found at the Peoples Cube…

    Keith Olbermann rises to #1 on Larry Craig’s ‘Top ten liberals I’d like to sodomize’ list

    IN a slight defense of Letterman, he was probably to stupid to know which Palin daughter was which, and probably was thinking of Bristol.

    Which is still a slimy cheap shot at a private citizen who has never run for or held public office.

    Biden’s daughter, Gore’s son, numerous Kennedy family members, have had run-ins with the law. Most drug and/or alcohol related.

    Nobody jokes about that on TV.

  59. #59
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    And no, no conservative ever said demeaning things about Hillary Clinton. Or Janet Reno.

    Both public figures. BTW, Laura Bush never (at least overtly) tried to form Bush Administration policy. Hillary was charged with the Demonrats first attempt at statist/Marxist health care. Mrs. Bush didn’t run for the Senate in a state she had never lived in in, either.

  60. #60
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, Hangfire said:

    “Pandemic Marxism in America…..

    Film at Eleven.”

  61. #61
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:33 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Give me one example where a conservative has called for their rape or any physical injury to them merely because they hold different political views.

    Give me one example of a liberal doing so. Y’all invented a secret meaning of “hate sex” to justify your outrage, and you somehow equated “knocked up” with “raped.” Sorry, that dog don’t hunt.

  62. #62
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Jvette said

    Liberal women are unhappy, bitter shrews who have no problem with conservative women being threatened with physical harm or having their family attacked if it advances their agenda.

    advances their agenda
    EXACTLY!!! When Progressives Attack!

  63. #63
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Give me one example where a conservative has called for their rape or any physical injury to them merely because they hold different political views.

    Watta joke. Y’all invent a secret meaning of “hate sex” to pretend like a liberal wants to rape conservative women, and you somehow equate “knocked up” with “rape”? Sorry, that dog don’t hunt.

  64. #64
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, John Deaux said:

    RSS really doesn’t know the definition of the word “rape.”

  65. #65
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Red State – One word: PLAYBOY!

  66. #66
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    And no, no conservative ever said demeaning things about Hillary Clinton. Or Janet Reno.

    Both public figures.

    Ohhhhh, so being a public figure excuses this kind of crap.

  67. #67
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, Regulus said:

    Hatred of conservative women by liberal Cognoscenti and Glitterati has as its wellspring the fact that “feminism” today isn’t “progressive” but reactionary.

    They’ve pretty much obtained all that they fought for in decades past: the franchise, abortion on demand, affirmative action preferences, Title IX destruction of men’s collegiate athletic programs, participation in armed combat, even a higher percentage of women than men attending college.

    And yet they’re still a bunch of miserable Harpies, whose reasons for getting out of bed in the morning are to:

    (1) Feel sorry for themselves;

    (2) Feel bitter toward men;

    (3) Feel paranoid that men will somehow conspire in some cigar smoke-filled room to take away all that’s been gained; and

    (4) Feel hatred toward women who don’t share in their hollow anger, vicious hatred, unwarranted self-pity, pathetic bitterness, self-demeaning jealousy and pre-adolescent rage.

    When you aren’t striving for opportunities anymore, the temptation is to dwell on “threats” to what you’ve already gained: you become reactionary, not visionary. And in good modern liberal fashion, being a reactionary means stifling debate instead of welcoming the opportunity to defend or advance your views, and destroying icons of heresy (i.e., women who won’t bow down to feminist orthodoxy) instead of letting them express their own sense of “diversity.”

    For a modern “feminist,” nothing is more terrifying than the thought of being sent back to the kitchen, “barefoot and pregnant.” And they just know that unless any and all indicia of traditional femininity are wiped out — e.g., care for personal appearance, desire for marriage, seeing men as partners and protectors instead of oppressors, and love of children born or unborn — that the risk remains of waking up only to realize that conservatives have taken away everything from them overnight.

    People can say and do ugly things, and be ugly themselves inside and out, when they’re scared. And “feminists” aren’t just scared, they’re paranoid.

    So what to do with a heretic like Michelle? She takes full advantage of her feminine attractiveness; she unapologetically revels in her status as wife and mother; and she’s successful at her chosen calling without having to owe anything to feminist orthodoxy.

    Debating her is out of the question.

    But the false and crumbling edifice of “feminism” is so sacred to them that they’ll knowingly stand mute when Michelle is regularly subject to racist and misogynist slurs and threats of violence, and raise no objection when she’s cast into public displays of rape fantasies, because their overvalued idea of “women’s liberation” means that they can say “We had to destroy her to save feminism!” and see no irony in that at all.

    If a woman holds another woman down so that a man can commit rape, she’s just as guilty of the crime as he is. That’s the disgusting state of “feminists” today: silently helping the Dave Lettermans, the Perez Hiltons and the Playboy.com hacks to savage women like Michelle who don’t “think right.”

    Far from being liberators of other women, they become selective aiders and abettors of misogynists.

    That’s “Breaking a few eggs to make an omlette” in their minds, I suppose… but one wonders what Michelle thinks of being the acceptable sacrifice on the altar of “feminism.”

  68. #68
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, Gorebot said:

    Red State Sociopath said:

    …you somehow equate “knocked up” with “rape”?

    Ah, so now a 14 year-old girl can “consent” to being molested.

    Wonderful, Socio, just wonderful. Thank you for proving all the points that have been made herein about liberal scum.

  69. #69
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, Hangfire said:

    I’ve said demeaning things about Hillary and Janet Reno since they first reared their political heads.

    My remarks address their politics and Trotsky-ite beliefs, not their families and personal lives.

    This despite the fact that Chelsea looks like a Windsor….

  70. #70
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, rightwingmom said:

    RS ~

    Give me one example of a liberal doing so.

    What about Playboy’s article?

  71. #71
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, sonofdy said:

    What about Playboy’s article?

    RSS doesn’t think that meant rape, just rough sex without thier permission. Totaly different don’t you know.

  72. #72
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, Gorebot said:

    Red State Sociopath said:

    Ohhhhh, so being a public figure excuses this kind of crap.

    Just FYI, Socio: John McCain emphatically and profusely and explicitly apologized for his single mis-guided joke about Chelsea Clinton.

  73. #73
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Ah, so now a 14 year-old girl can “consent” to being molested.

    You know damn well that Letterman was talking about the Palin girl who had already been “knocked up.”

  74. #74
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Y’all invented a secret meaning of “hate sex” to justify your outrage, and you somehow equated “knocked up” with “raped.” Sorry, that dog don’t hunt.

    I notice you conveniently ignored my post. Sex with a minor is, in the state of New York, statutory rape. Joking about statutory rape is joking about rape. I not only asked my husband, but others what they thought “hatef***” meant and all of them, every single one, said it was rape.

    Just because you assume consent is involved in “hate sex” doesn’t make it so. And please, try to explain how joking about statutory rape isn’t a joke about rape.

    So we didn’t invent anything, but you have – repeatedly – shrugged off jokes that, if leveled at the Obama girls, would be used by you as ammunition to somehow prove we’re “haters.”

    Hypocrite, misogynist, thy name is RSS.

  75. #75
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, sonofdy said:

    RSS: you mean the one that WASN’T on the trip?

    Pull the other one, it plays jingle bells.

  76. #76
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, rightwingmom said:

    RSS is ignoring my Playboy question.

    Why could that be?????

  77. #77
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    You know damn well that Letterman was talking about the Palin girl who had already been “knocked up.”

    That’s a lie. Letterman was talking about Palin’s trip to the Yankee’s game, which she made with her 14-year-old daughter, not Bristol.

  78. #78
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, rightwingmom said:
    RS ~

    Give me one example of a liberal doing so.
    What about Playboy’s article?

    RSS says we’re stretching to say “hate sex” is somehow related to rape.

    Um, RSS, safe to say the Soviet Army had ‘hate sex’ with nuns, young girls, and elderly women, after the captured Berlin?

  79. #79
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Actually, I do believe Letterman is stupid enough to confuse Willow and Bristol.

    Still slimy, as Bristol is a private citizen, and we don’t here Letterman joke about Al Gore’s drunk/druggie son or Joe Biden’s cokehead daughter.

  80. #80
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    including those about raping them or their 14-year-old daughters…

    Might be fun watching some loser try to rape MY 14-year old daughter … what with her black belt in TaeKwonDo and her Champion credentials in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and all.

    Just watching his face turn colors when she applies that choke would be PRICELESS!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  81. #81
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, Gorebot said:

    Red State Sociopath said:

    You know damn well that Letterman was talking about the Palin girl who had already been “knocked up.”

    Ah, the feeble “you know damn well” defense. More proof that Letterman’s degree of abject error is exceeded only by your own.

  82. #82
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, right4life said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    Ah, so now a 14 year-old girl can “consent” to being molested.
    You know damn well that Letterman was talking about the Palin girl who had already been “knocked up.”

    no, don’t know that…his lame ‘explanation’ is so much BS, like everything else he says…

  83. #83
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, Ragspierre said:

    What a wonderful demonstration of statist “think” Red State Bigot has provided for us all.

    My heartfelt thanks, RSB. A fine demonstration and public service.

  84. #84
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, Gorebot said:

    Just FYI, Socio: John McCain emphatically and profusely and explicitly apologized for his single mis-guided joke about Chelsea Clinton.

    Also, that poster considers McCain a conservative?

  85. #85
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:53 pm, flmom said:

    This despite the fact that Chelsea looks like a Windsor….

    A Churchillian insult of the highest order. I stand in awe.

  86. #86
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, right4life said:

    the left thinks women, minorities, etc are supposed to think correctly, and when you don’t you are singled out for not being obedient to your liberal masters…

    everything will be fine as long as you stay on the plantation and parrot what your liberal white massas tell ya…

  87. #87
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    RSS says we’re stretching to say “hate sex” is somehow related to rape.

    Um, RSS, safe to say the Soviet Army had ‘hate sex’ with nuns, young girls, and elderly women, after the captured Berlin?

    I’d like to see RSS’s explanation of how he knows that the women on that list would consent to “hate sex”.

    As I said, he’s a prime example of how consent is quickly fading as a criteria for sexual relationships. Soon, it will be a hate crime for a conservative refuse someone’s advances because any sex is okay, even when it’s not consensual, and conservatives deserve it anyway. RSS’s continued defense of something he would not tolerate if directed at the Obama girls proves that.

  88. #88
    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    RSS is ignoring my Playboy question.

    Nope, already talked about it.

  89. #89
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, sonofdy said:

    Actualy we do already know RSS’s position on that. He does not consider non-consentual hate-sex to be the same as rape.

    Already established that.

  90. #90
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    chapoutier said:

    The so called feminists are silent, again.

    An article from HuffPo.

    Sexism Against Conservative Women Is Still Sexism

    First, she’s not on the HuffPo staff. They just grabbed her article and posted it.

    Amy Siskind is the President and Co-Founder of The New Agenda, an organization dedicated to improving the lives of women and girls. Ms. Siskind has appeared on CNN, Fox, and PBS. Ms. Siskind also writes for The Daily Beast.

    Second, just read the title of her article.

    Sexism Against Conservative Women Is Still Sexism

    Please…why doesn’t she just replace the term conservative with whore. That’s clearly the intent.

    And read some of the comments from HuffPo’s brilliant liberal commenters…

    Palin made the “choice” to make her kids part of her public persona. It really was her only true achievement and she should be proud. But a self-serving move if there ever was one. That may make them a bit of a target but the real target is Palin herself. Just like EVERY OTHER PUBLIC PERSON.

    Letterman will have the last laugh once little sister Willow, envious of Bristol’s attention, becomes another unwed, pregnant teenager, just like her high-school drop-out big sister.

    You are right Amy Siskind in much of what you say…

    However, in the specific case of Sarah Palin. She has outraged many feminist. She is where she is today because of them and no thanks to her. If she were allowed to in force her religious ideologies on others she would be setting women back, certainly not ahead.

    It SCREAMS double-standard.

  91. #91
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:02 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, Gorebot said:

    Red State Sociopath said:

    You know damn well that Letterman was talking about the Palin girl who had already been “knocked up.”

    Ah, the feeble “you know damn well” defense. More proof that Letterman’s degree of abject error is exceeded only by your own.

    Agreed.

    Interesting, why did that poster, for once, not write “Y’all know damn well….”?

    Socio must be talking to only one other poster at a time; because, as far as I know, “Y’all” is used to address one person; “All Y’all” is used to aaddress two or more people.

    Hmmm…could socio be a phony southerner?

  92. #92
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:04 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Red State Skeptic said:
    You know damn well that Letterman was talking about the Palin girl who had already been “knocked up.”

    No. He wasn’t. He was talking about the daughter that WAS WITH Mrs. Palin. That would be her 14 year old.

    And even a lib at HuffPo knows this.

    Letterman will have the last laugh once little sister Willow, envious of Bristol’s attention, becomes another unwed, pregnant teenager, just like her high-school drop-out big sister.

  93. #93
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    As if it matter which daughter he was dreaming about having sex with himself.

  94. #94
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Gorebot said:

    Future scenario:

    Heaven forbid, but one of Obambi’s two gorgeous daughters becomes pregnant at 17.

    Rush Limbaugh mocks the adult Obambi’s for being bad parents.

    The Red State Sociopaths of the world defend Limbaugh! He’s just a “comedian”, after all!

    My my, these hallucinogens are powerful drugs after all!!!

  95. #95
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    err… “mattered”

  96. #96
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, b-cat said:

    Y’all” is used to address one person; “All Y’all” is used to aaddress two or more people.

    Y’all is a contraction for you all. All y’all is simply redundant. The confusion comes from Hollywood writers injecting the term incorrectly in the conversations that they write.

  97. #97
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, MtsEdge said:

    So-called feminists stand on the sidelines like so many Silda Spitzers or Elizabeth Edwardses or Hillary Clintons, standing by their menfolk while the boys treat women like dirt. Heck, Mrs. Edwards even served as her husband’s attack dog against any critic — even as she knew he was sleeping with his mistress of many years…

    Don’t forget that Elizabeth Edwards and Hillary Clinton had political ambitions of their own. They had a vested interest in making sure their “man” looked good, and leveraged their credibility as wives to promote a lie for their own selfish ends.

  98. #98
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:13 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Gorebot ~ O’s already said they wouldn’t be burdened by an unwanted pregnancy. I’m sure an abortionist is on speed dial at the Michelle’s cell phone.

    RSS ~ Missed your response to the Playboy article. Be so kind and remind us your opinion about it. Thx. :)

  99. #99
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, granite said:

    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, b-cat said:

    I know the source of the contraction.

    At:

    http://memphis.about.com/od/midsouthliving/qt/yall.htm

    …we are told:

    While “y’all” is actually a contraction for “you all,” it is most commonly used in place of the plural form of “you.” “All y’all” or “all of y’all,” on the other hand, is generally used in place of “you all.”

    For example…
    When speaking to two or three people: “Are y’all going to the movies?”
    When speaking to several people: “Are all y’all going to the movies?”

    I had thought that “All y’all” started at two or more people; however, it appears from the reference that it starts at several (four) or more.

    Apologies.

  100. #100
    On June 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    O’s already said they wouldn’t be burdened by an unwanted pregnancy punished with a baby.

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