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1. #101
   On June 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, Ragspierre said:

   No, but when you have shysters like John Edwards convincing juries that Doctors are responsible for something that was in God’s hands, good people lose.

   I agree…sort of and up to a point.

   I believe in juries, like I believe in democracy. Down in my toe-nails, and for the same reasons.

   That said, people can, do, and will make bad choices, based on all the wrong reasons. That goes with freedom. The other side of that coin is RESPONSIBILITY, or the ability to be exposed to the results of your bad choices.

   I have had some absolutely inexplicable jury decisions, which went against every fact and the law the jurors were given. They are VERY difficult for me to deal with, because I can’t understand them and can’t learn from them. Happily, the legal process allows a judge or appellate court to cancel out a run-away jury, and impose the law where they exceed it.

2. #102
   On June 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, granite said:

   On June 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, lonewolf said:

   Can someone tell me how to incorporate a previous post into a new post?

   Highlight what you want to incorporate; right-click on “copy”; then right-click “paste” it into the new post.

3. #103
   On June 15th, 2009 at 7:01 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

   Absolutely classic Milton Freidan clip.

   It’s only 2:30 long, but power-packed and timeless.

4. #104
   On June 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

   that should be Freidman, not Friedan.

5. #105
   On June 15th, 2009 at 7:14 pm, Ragspierre said:

   I would have given much to have had the honor of meeting and learning from Milton, and his smarter wife Rose, Friedman.

   I owe him and Rose my interests in economics, and much of my love for people.

6. #106
   On June 15th, 2009 at 9:27 pm, fulldroolcup said:

   This thread appears close to death, and lgm has slitheree away after enduring scathing criticism and rebuttal, but still, I will ask him:

   Lgm: If a college student knows his earnings will be severely capped by Obamacare, then why will he even bother to be a pre-med major, let alone undergo the years of medical training, with long hours, low pay and massive debts he will have to repay?

   Answer that, you miserable twit.

7. #107
   On June 15th, 2009 at 10:38 pm, Cal City Conservative said:

   On June 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, granite said:

   On June 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, lonewolf said:

   Can someone tell me how to incorporate a previous post into a new post?

   Highlight what you want to incorporate; right-click on “copy”; then right-click “paste” it into the new post.

   You forgot to add to use the quote tab at the beginning and at the end of what you want to quote.

8. #108
   On June 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm, lgm said:

   fulldroolcup said (#106):

   If a college student knows his earnings will be severely capped by Obamacare, then why will he even bother to be a pre-med major,

   Somehow, France, Germany, Canada, etc. have enough doctors. I think we’ll manage. Good question by the way. Maybe we’ll have to create a multi tier system where the primary care person is somewhere between a nurse and a doctor, with the people with really advanced training (and pay) doing only the very hard stuff.

9. #109
   On June 15th, 2009 at 11:56 pm, SHoward said:

   Maybe we’ll have to create a multi tier system where the primary care person is somewhere between a nurse and a doctor,

   That’s a good idea no matter what system we have or create. However, we already have that: They’re called Nurse Practitioners. They see patients and prescribe medications, usually in primary care offices or some specialties, like endocrinology (diabetes care).

   I still don’t wish to see Obamacare, but that particular idea already works, we just have a shortage of them. Like the shortage of plain ole’ nurses.

10. #110
    On June 16th, 2009 at 12:32 am, Ragspierre said:

    Maybe we’ll have to create a multi tier system where the primary care person is somewhere between a nurse and a doctor, with the people with really advanced training (and pay) doing only the very hard stuff.

    Eww…!!!

    I know…

    How about a system were we get to choose who will treat us, and how much we care to pay them?

    See, that is called “freedom“.

    You ought to think about trying it.

    Or at least letting others alone so they can.

11. #111
    On June 16th, 2009 at 12:33 am, Ragspierre said:

    Somehow, France, Germany, Canada, etc. have enough doctors.

    Evidence, please.

12. #112
    On June 16th, 2009 at 12:54 am, USpace said:

    .
    These are totally fabulous! Let’s all send them to EVERYBODY we know. The Neo-Libs will pop their corks.

    http://www.freemarketcure.com/

    

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    DESTROY your health care system

    ration care to save money
    just wait for critical care

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe loves
    a health care bureaucracy

    keep patients running around
    charge them every time

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    admire Adolph Hitler

    he started social programs
    today’s Liberals just love
    .

13. #113
    On June 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am, marsouin said:

    Don’t forget, it’s not just Obama. The majority of Dems on the Hill are pushing for this totalitarian, anti-constitutional garbage as well.

14. #114
    On June 16th, 2009 at 7:46 am, ErinF said:

    I like them all. I like the Cadet Nurse one the best; except the Obama logo should be on her lapel and/or sleeve.

15. #115
    On June 16th, 2009 at 8:19 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Somehow, France, Germany, Canada, etc. have enough doctors.

    Did Canadacare kill Natasha Richardson?

16. #116
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am, sonofdy said:

    Somehow, France, Germany, Canada, etc. have enough doctors.

    Actualy they don’t. LGM this is why you should ask me about my histroy with socialised medicine. Most of those countries are losing doctors to the usa because of pay issues.

17. #117
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:05 am, Misscheryl said:

    OT but important:

    TURNS PROGRAMMING OVER TO OBAMA; NEWS TO BE ANCHORED FROM INSIDE WHITE HOUSE
    Tue Jun 16 2009 08:45:10 ET

    here’s the link:

    http://www.drudgereport.com/flashaot.htm

18. #118
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am, Misscheryl said:

    Ooops: I left out “ABC” off the beginning of that headline.

    Sorry

19. #119
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:08 am, sonofdy said:

    Shortage of doctors in France

    Shortage of doctors in Germany

    Shortage of doctors in Canada

20. #120
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am, sonofdy said:

    Misscheryl: Would it be racist of me to point out that that sounds alot like pravda???

21. #121
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:20 am, Misscheryl said:

    Well, not in the least…we have czars and now state run TV…

    if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck – it’s a commie.

    Actually, it makes my stomach turn. What the hell else do we need?

22. #122
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:21 am, Misscheryl said:

    I didn’t mean to hijack this thread…I’ll stop. I did think it was pretty important. I’ll be quiet now.

23. #123
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:25 am, granite said:

    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:21 am, Misscheryl said:

    I didn’t mean to hijack this thread…I’ll stop. I did think it was pretty important. I’ll be quiet now.

    You hardly hijacked the thread.
    No apology necessary.
    Pretty important? If Drudge’s news item is true, “pretty important” is the understatement of the year!
    Thank you for letting us know.

24. #124
    On June 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Ragspierre said:

    I suggest this is the way ObamaCare will be defeated. You can try this at home, if you like…

    “We can’t afford it…”

    Everybody can understand that. Even idiots who think that health care is a right can understand we can’t afford it.

    Americans are FEELING very anxious about BIG BRO’s amazing spending. They will get…

    “We can’t afford it…”

25. #125
    On June 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am, Ragspierre said:

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/06/16/abc-the-all-barack-channel-earns-a-new-logo/

    GREAT new ABC logo!!!!

26. #126
    On June 16th, 2009 at 12:37 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    lgm: “Somehow, France, Germany, Canada, etc. have enough doctors.”

    Heh.

    From the many fact-filled rebuttals to this claim, I’d say lgm has once again had to reach for his gallon jar of KY Jelly.

    OUCH!!!!

27. #127
    On June 16th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Somehow, France, Germany, Canada, etc. have enough doctors.

    Doctors, but only in the sense that they may have once spent time in an advanced anatomy class and can sometimes ID a patient from a nurse in a waiting room.
    

    I think we’ll manage.

    Oh that’s pithy! Funny thing is, just a hundred years ago we were fine paying experienced doctors with fresh eggs and hand-churned butter – that is, until lawyers got involved w/ ambulance chasing!
    

    Maybe we’ll have to create a multi tier system where the primary care person is somewhere between a nurse and a doctor, with the people with really advanced training (and pay) doing only the very hard stuff.

    Or, we could end the law suit silliness and be just fine w/ what we have -

28. #128
    On June 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, sonofdy said:

    Maybe we’ll have to create a multi tier system where the primary care person is somewhere between a nurse and a doctor, with the people with really advanced training (and pay) doing only the very hard stuff.

    Yeah!!! we could call them physicians assistants or maybe nurse practioners!!!

    Why didn’t we think of that???

29. #129
    On June 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, granite said:

    Maybe we’ll have to create a multi tier system where the primary care person is somewhere between a nurse and a doctor, with the people with really advanced training (and pay) doing only the very hard stuff.

    Now, that goofy, silly post sounds like the original Sybil!

30. #130
    On June 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Yeah!!! we could call them physicians assistants or maybe nurse practioners!!!

    Why didn’t we think of that???

    Eww…Eww…I know…

    How about paramedics…!!! Kinda like “semi-doctors”…