Bad medicine: Obamacare poster art, Round 3
The Obamacare government takeover plan has provided a welcome stimulus of creativity and fighting spirit on the Right. Last week, we featured Rounds One and Two of the Obamacare photoshop poster contest. They just keep getting better. Print, save, and fax your favorites to your congressional reps. Bring one to an Obamacare protest near you — like the ones in Seattle and Green Bay. Give one to your favorite doctor, nurse, or other health care professional as Obama urges them to swallow their socialized medicine. (Details on Obama’s upcoming speech to the AMA in Chicago today here.)
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Simply brilliant…
The more I laugh, the more I realize I should be clinging to my guns.
Obama says “we must HURRY to pass reformed health care.”
I do believe he thinks everyone is stupid. But then, who could blame him for thinking this way. He says jump and most ask “how high.” I would like to think he and/or his inner circle read blogs like this one.
Correct.
Stupid; and who could blame him for thinking that way, indeed.
He is occupying the White House, after all.
Can someone please tell me how Obama plans to cut millions (billions?) from medicare without killing off us old farts?
sorry babble, were all screwed.
signed,
Dumba$$ Voters 08′
To any liberals who are in favor of this crap: Don’t come whining to us, once you have health care denied. Don’t come whining to us…when someone you know and love is sentenced to a premature death, by some bureaucratic committee that determines which care will, and which care won’t be doled out.
Don’t come whining to us when you’re told that it will be 4 months before you can that MRI….or 3 months before you can get that CT-Scan or that the hip replacement you need will be at least 3 years down the road.
Don’t come whining to those of us who tried to stop this.
babbledabble, You will still get the same services and benefits. You just have to wait in line now. It is clearly racist and bigoted of you in some way to complain about this.
babble, since 80% of medicare money is spent on people in the last 6 months of their lives, that is precisely the plan. socialized suicide for the good of the children. but be sure to pay your taxes before you check out. it’s for the children.
Misscheryl,
I met with some visiting relatives this weekend and they are “liberal” drones. Someone called me a neo-con and immediately there were whispers of “oh no” around the table. So I opened my mouth and mentioned some reasons why conservative ideas resonate within me. The other side of the table essentially closed their ears and started screaming NA NA NA NA NA NA NA…”
To hell with them! I went home and for the remainder of the weekend I was actually happy. I only wish I recorded their sounds, so that if any of them ever ask me for money I can play that back to them.
great posters michelle!
Liberals, are those people who can be fooled every time.
vinny, I usualy don’t even try to talk to liberals anymore.
Well, at least, what, 52.9% are stupid?
Of that, probably 35% don’t realize they are stupid.
Vinny, take comfort in the fact that many who did vote for this tripe are crying today because of it. Some, because of foolish pride will never admit they screwed up and we all will suffer because of it. I believe Obama is truly an enemy of this country and those that support him are aiding and abetting….I feel that strongly about it. Our freedom is ending because of this putz and his narcissism. He disgusts me and those who support him are just as guilty. It will not be worth the cost to any of us. Many who support him do so because of his pie in the sky promises. All kinds of reasons to support this idiot, none of them worth it in the end.
For those who don’t like conservatives spewing their hatred toward this man – they’d better get used to it. He is a personal enemy of mine and my way of life and I will not stop until he’s gone!
Me either. I have nothing to say to them anymore. I’ll just do what I can to circumvent them and get that fool out and his cronies out of our white house!
Did anyone see this? By a former liberal who tells us how not to discuss the health care debate. Good read.
Nothing irritates Obama more than people laughing and making jokes at his expense. Keep it up.
The glow of Obama’s presence will cure you-tooth paste and brushes will become black market items so we can be more like the Brits and EuroWeenies.
“Treat the group, ignore the individual-Private lives as with private property are not conducive for the collective”
Sadly, the most we can really do is to laugh at these ‘toons. Socialized medicine is just TOO appealing for too many people. If you’re against it they send in the violins and wheel in the overworked single moms, the millions of hard luck family-bankrupting disease cases & million-dollar surgery bills to feed this heart-tugging cure-all dragon. The time to stop this monster was before the election (NOT being welded to single issues), but I’ve resigned that we will all be forever branded with this “humane” and “compassionate” and “altruistic” burden which our oh-so-civilized friends across the pond enjoy.
James Greenidge
Queens, NY
Had lunch with a returned missionary whose mission was in Winnipeg. He told me that people in the churches there, if there’s any kind of remotely serious medical problem, make a run for the border. Even if you survive the wait, the quality of Canadian health care sucks.
Misscheryl, sonofdy, vinny
It is tempting to ignore liberals but I think that hurts the conservative cause. I speak up whenever I can.
There seems to be some unwritten rule that liberals can babble their nonsense everywhere and conservatives must listen politely without comment. I am trying to change that.
If we are going to win the battle for cour country we NEED to speak up!
Socky – and to your point. I work in academia where liberal socialists rule (because they are sooo intelligent don’t cha know). Speaking to one the other day, he said statements like what you made “make a run for the boarder…” are simply untrue and is just conservative propoganda. Of course, when you ask him how many Canadians he actually knows…well, none of course but he’s is positive it’s all right wing propoganda.
I personally know people who have run to the boarder for health care. This guy is a typical Obama supporter. He walks around with his fingers planted firmly in his ears. One can hear him from time to time singing ‘nanananananananaaaaa.’ Course, the man is black and he thinks Obama is going to save the African Americans from something..I don’t exactly know yet from what.
The problem with liberals is that when you disagree with them, they take it as a personal assault on their intellect. It then becomes a battle of egos.
You just cant reason with people who are like that.
southsideironworks,
I believe liberals use this “guilt trip” on conservatives to keep them quiet.
Speak up! As the saying goes you know you are near the target when you start to get flak.
Don’t know.
Anyone who isn’t able to produce will probably be offed.
Whats the point? We all know where this is heading. These idiots will never listen to us. No there isn’t much point to it anymore.
And older man at our church is a retired ophthalmologist-eye surgeon. His summer practice was in a small town in North Dakota-Canadians going south to get cataract surgery-the wait was too long at home. All cash, no insurance.
My cardiologist is a Canadian transplant-does not accept Medicare, Medicaid, owns guns and is not fond of Liberals North or South.
Well I didn’t vote for The Bozo in Chief. And I am certainly NOT in favor of this “crap”. And I definitely am not going to roll over & die so some illegal can get health care.
However a liberal friend (?) tells me He is going to take a lot of people off medicare & medicaid & put them into other programs. So how is this going to save money? Think I must have missed that session in Finance 101.
sonofdy,
I believe a lot of liberals are simply misinformed people with good intentions. They will not admit they are wrong when you challenge them but when they go home and mull over the facts you challenge them with they may change their minds. (They will not tell anyone of course for fear of ridicule.)
You may only change one or two people’s minds but if enouth conservatives speak up often enough we can tip the scales back in our favor. Obama only won by a few percentage points.
If you want to see people who behave like this make some really hilarious facial expressions, just refer to The One as “President Sanjaya.”
Every one of these posters is a misrepresentation (a lie if the person bothered to know better).
For example, we already have Black Market Drugs. Medical tourists buy drugs in Canada where they are cheaper. And there’s the ever present “V-I-A-G-R-A” email.
The plan Obama proposed during the campaign would force people to buy private insurance, like the Massachusetts plan does. That’s stamping it in, not out. The “public option” will force out private insurers only if they can’t compete.
You’re lying. Shut up. Can’t stop yelping because you know these speak truth to your evil power….
Who can compete with the government, particularly a government that can change the rules of the game on a whim.
How many “customers” will continue to pay for private insurance at the same time they are being forced to pay for the government’s.
If you want to go to the DMV for your doctor visit, don’t take me with you.
See, that’s what I’m talking about:
lgm’s fingers planted squarely in his ears – nannanananananananaaa!
lgm,
The Massachusetts plan is driving us bankrupt! It is a failure. I went to the ER with my father a few months ago. No changes. Still a bunch of uninsureds with common ailments cloging the waiting room.
b-cat said (#32):
FedEx
LGM, I have lived socialist medicine.
I think I know what I am talking about on this subject. The posters are acurate. Unless you think that waiting 45 days for emergency heart surgery is AOK…
This is how government run health care works right now.
I beg your pardon, I was a little slow with the link button.
FedEx Is far better at its job than the post office. Bad example.
This (naturally) is a lgm lie.
The USPO asserted its monopoly back in the 70s (as I recall) when UPS and FedEx started to enter the market for regular mail.
Look it up.
The root of the medical cost mess is, as usual, a result of statist market distortions.
HMOs were a Teddy Kennedy/Richard Nixon invention.
Both of them fans of fascist economic policy.
Look it up.
Yes, because we want to compare health care – something that’s necessary – with a mode of message delivery (USPS) that’s quickly becoming obsolete thanks to online technology.
Which one is more necessary? Postal service or health care? No one that I’m aware of has died from a lack of mailmen. People have, however, been sent home to die from a lack of government-run health care approvals.
sadly the sheep will stand in line or wait for health care what ever that might be, until the sheep dog tells them what to do next. sheep tend to be weak and dependent on others and these are the ones zero is hoping will argue for him and his joke of a health reform program.
yep – Obama will force is exactly our point. STAY OUT OF OUR PRIVATE LIVES!!!
The left will sell their souls..have sold their souls!
Yep. I seem to remember the U.S. Postal “Service” asserting its monopoly back then.
Good post.
Sorry.
Just had to change that.
Agreed.
Which socialists, statists, collectivists, know-it-alls, existentialists, elitists, opposite worldview-holders, etc. do not notice, and will deny, because they do not believe in the existence of the soul.
Of course, ANY advance of government into the health-care market is an exercise in Fabian socialism.
Step-by-step. Little-by-little. Keep pressing. Distort the market, then blame the market for the failure that ensues. Create a crisis (shortages are ALWAYS a creation of market distortions), then exploit the crisis.
A simple return to free markets is the answer. It would seem like magic…
to anyone BUT people who understand economics.
Mass Conservative, I agree with you in that we need to make our voices heard. However not only is it very unpleasant when you try to talk to someone who doesn’t want to hear you, it is usually a waste of time and effort. I gave up, and enjoyed the remainder of my weekend. Unfortunately these are family members and you can never really get rid of them.
To get back to the need to talk to “liberals” and I use quotes because I believe that most of them actually support a form of fascism; where can you engage them in conversation? Work-place is a really dumb arena for such discussions. I tried at a family meeting but got tired of hearing “nanananan.” Where can one reach these folks? The ones who actually read get all their information from NYT and Guardian. How do we reach them?
It has nothing to do with actually providing health care to the uninsured. It has nothing to do with helping our economy get healthy. It has everything to do with control and domination and it will crawl in like a flea on backs of people like lgm. Then we can ask how’s that “hopey, changey” thing working for you?
If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it’s free.
I don;t understand why healthcare organizations such as the ProHealth Care, Auroras, etc. are not protesting this. Doesn’t sound like it is going to help them much. Or am I missing something? Yet two health care professionals I spoke to said “It (Obamacare)isn’t going to happen”
http://townhall.com/content/931234b0-2d2a-4c83-a8ed-04e394d1ceed
It is amazing to me that Obama thinks he can just tell the AMA that he’s going to make cuts to their pay and they are going to like it. All the AMA has to do is instruct doctors and hospitals not to accept the new government program and they’ll be out of luck (it’s Chicago politics played through the money of health care – which is more than the government has).
The AMA has mastered the ‘leverage’ politics that Obama claims to love. That has allowed the insurance companies to also be very good at this kind of brinksmanship negotiation.
The health care industry creates jobs. If Obama makes cuts, it will cost jobs.
Instead of cutting what they pay doctors and hospitals for providing services, maybe they should start by cutting the lucrative benefits of the federal health care plan all the senators and congressmen have. Their health care benefits are more expensive than any in the country except the UAW.
Why isn’t he asking the UAW to cut the benefits for their employees and retirees? Why isn’t he asking Congress to cut their benefits? Why is he demanding doctors and hospitals take less to provide care?
Two weeks ago we were lamenting how much the pilot of the airplane crash was making (less than 20k/year), and now he’s expecting brain surgeons to be placed on the same pay scale.
We have geniuses running our government. . . geniuses I tell ya.
The government (Obama) will have all the wealth…this healthcare initiative is ridiculous. yes fgmorley, but in all seriousness, don’t we work for the government now? What percentage do we pay in taxes? As I said, it’s not about healthcare. It’s about the little guy supporting the government and that government being in complete control over our lives. Some day, in the not to distant future – this talk about how expensive our lives have become supporting healthcare, etc. will be such a joke and we will laugh at how once upon a time, we had the luxury of arguing such a moot point because we will own nothing and our freedoms will be toast.
Misscheryl, that is why I said liberals are those people who are fooled every time. They keep seeing that pie in the sky and they never recognize the cloud for what it is. Even when these clouds turn dark and deliver rain, thunder, and lightning. This government care is nothing but another tax increase. So many voted for Obama thinking that he will give them free gifts, but instead they lost their jobs. They think that free health care is what they will get, but instead they will get rationed health care with as much compassion as you get at the DMV. This form of care will be much more expensive than what we pay now, and will provide much less. But I don’t believe that they will ever learn. So in terms of medical care, work training, food assistance, and any other form of care….what can you do for the doomed?
BTW LGM do you support the massive cuts in medicaid and medicare??
LGM??
If you want a free market model for health care, you have only to look at veterinary care.
If you want a model for ObamaCare, look to the Indian Reservations.
I’ll bet that wanting an abortion will send a patient to the head of the line.
Misscheryl, my “liberal” family were incensed when I tried to speak, and I gave up. This liberal government behaves the same way to conservative speakers and they also hope someday we will shut up. The MSM tries hard to shut us up. They want to be able to regulate our ability to talk and make us shut up. That is clearly where the liberal policies of Obama lead, and we must fight them.
No, everyone but just a chosen few will be sterilized. You gotta think outside the box.
Yeah, your health care will be a gamble with the odds against you – but sorry, no tax-free cigarettes.
The thing I’ve come to realize is we already have many small, individualized, systems of “socialized” medicine through employer-sponsored insurance.
The single-payer is the employer, and the portion allotted from our pay for premiums is the tax.
Every year, the rates go up because we have one option and often the employer is locked in for multiple years or by the sheer volume of work involved with switching an entire company’s health plan.
The ONLY way to fix the health care problem is to completely remove health insurance from employment and open it up to the free market in the way auto insurance is – rates are publicly posted, coverage is readily available, and most people know what auto repair shops charge for work and shop around for the best deal.
The “Sorry Kid” poster really ties up the Obama administration into a neat bundle. The others are also brilliant.
Great piece by Chuck Norris, another Texan…
Why Obama scares me, too
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=101063
He includes a letter from Lou Pritchett, a retired Proctor & Gamble VP.
EXCELLENT POINTS.
I kind of like the poster with the creepy hands reaching for a baby. I would have written something like “Abortion is the greener option… Obamacare will make this choice easier.”
Yes, that’s my fear. The no-contraception, pro-family people out there will be first in line to be spayed or neutered. Because heaven forbid we have or encourage large, normal families.
How old-fashioned and oppression of us!
Sorry…meant “oppressive”!
or maybe: “With Obamacare it is still not too late to abort.”
The Irony is that the people deciding what kind of “new” health care system to hand the “peasants” formerly known as “We The People”, will be getting the best health care available..
Senators, House Members, Obama, His Cabinet, Government Employees.. Does anyone think they won’t be getting special treatment while we’re all waiting in line dying of something?
I think it might be time to do what Iranians are doing..
If we want to beat Obama – you have to beat him at his own game. He isn’t stupid and in regards to how he will control and reach his objective, he plays a cat and mouse game. If he pushes too hard, he steps back. He throws out an idea to see where the public sentiment is..if he’s gone too far (for now), he’ll retreat..You have to think two steps ahead of him. If he feels he has public support for something he’ll move quickly. He doesn’t give a ratz azz about anybody. There is no sympathy or empathy that lives inside this guy…he’s a parasite.
Another poster idea would be a picture of an old man with a cane or a walker, with the message: “Have you considered what you are costing this country? Call your doctor to discuss the euthanasia option.”
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For you; Ask How You Can Die Sooner For Your Country. -Barack Hussein Obama 2009
NOT TRUE! The government system will price private insurers out of business, driving all of us w/ into a gov sponsored plan.
LGM, George Will made an excellent point of dismissing each of Obama’s concocted reasons for attempting to take away our private health insurance, a.k.a., nationalized health care, you should read them at ABCNews.com before repeating the Administration’s talking points.
I agree with much of what you say. You do have to keep it out of the work environment and do not want to create too many family tensions. I like to engage liberals when I overhear someone making anti-conservative comments at social gatherings. For example, when my son was younger I could do so on the sidelines at soccer games. Recently I was at a birthday party for a friend and a couple of people sitting next to me were praising Obama’s push for national health care. I jumped in with my opinion. I know I did not immediately change their minds, but I gave them some facts and opinions that I know they are going to think about.
I’ve spent the last 15 minutes listening to Obama’s sales pitch to the AMA. Apparently, he thinks the doctors in that room are as stupid and naive as those morons who elected him Prez.
Nothing he said will come to fruition as he describes the administration’s “intention.” This is an out and out power grab to secure control of what the Democrat’s consider a cash cow. It is, and always be about the money. Money means control, and control means power.
Government involvement in any industry means costs go up, NOT down. Quality of the finished product goes down, NOT up. Things get harder to facilitate, NOT easier. All when all else fails, the doctors get exposed to higher costs and higher taxes. THAT is what this is about.
After five months of listening to, and observing the results of Obamanation, one can only come to the conclusion that ANY engagement with his ideas, costs more money, are ineffective, do not do what their stated intents project, result in government/Democrat takeover, and ultimately lead to failure.
Anyone falling for this latest BS is still addicted to the Coolaid, or I my opinion, complete idiots. The man is a liar…he doesn’t believe what he says, and neither should we. This is all about money, power and control…period. For those here that still believe this progressive mouthpiece for insanity, I can only say one thing….
KAL-I-MA! Follow this man at your own risk. He will, not might, destroy America with your help and support.
The Cadet Nurses poster is the most portentous: Free surgical training for high school grads is the quality of health care we’ll receive under a gov plan, given the already existing doctor and nursing shortage in this nation.
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The federal government set up three Ponzi schemes–Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The scope of these programs grew–and at every point in their existence good financial analysis calculated their future GOING BANKRUPT DATES.
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Some BANDAID FIXES to these programs were made–they just “kicked the can” down the road for a few more years. President Bush 43 tried to address the SS problems–he was excoriated for his attempt.
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Meanwhile–no fixes to these 3 existing programs have been made. The “going broke” dates will be sooner when all the 12 million? ILLEGAL ALIENS (not “undocumented immigrants”) are given amnesty and citizenship. The liberal SCOTUS will mandate their coverage by these programs.
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Meanwhile–more Ponzi Scheme social programs will be set up–Universal Health Care is next. It’s like watching the old MARRIED WITH CHILDREN PROGRAM again. Poor old Al Bundy (the U.S.S.A. taxpayer) is asleep on the couch. The strange looking red haired mom–Peg–is teaching her daughter and friends how to get the credit card out of Al’s pocket without waking him up.
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One of the girls asks, “But what will we do when we reach the maximum credit limit?” Peg answers, “Just open some more credit card accounts–let Al take care of it!”
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President Obama (PBUH) must have been watching that episode–he is applying the plan now.
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John Bibb
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A new litmus test for you dr. should be whether or not he agrees with Obama. If he does run away and find a sane one.
Any questions now on why Terry Schiavo’s case was so important to the Progressives? Her being allowed to live would have been a bad precedent for what they have in mind.
If you are unborn, unconcious, or retired, heaven help you in their world.
The upside (if one can think of it as such) is that if Obama-care is not defeated, along with all the other lunatic liberal schemes, it will hasten the collapse of the welfare state which is already underway. It will not be pretty but it seems inevitable at this point. As the USSR discovered, or anybody that uses credit cards to pay others, wealth cannot be created by edict, plans or out of thin air and sooner or later economic reality will prevail. Problem is, it would be nice if conservatives had prevailed by the force of our arguments rather than the weakness of liberal policies and a large segment of the American will never “get it” and will continue to blame conservatives for the economic disaster. There is no telling what will replace our current welfare state but it is coming to an end as none of this has any possibilty of working. Ironically, this will be the “change” that the liberals messiah helps brings about.
In a discussion today at the local coffee shop, the subject came up as to how the Obama administration intended to cut medical cost. It is easy. Digitize all of the medical records (thank you Microsoft and GE), put them all in a central place. Then when the patient goes in for medical treatment, Universal Health Management run by the government, accesses the patients records and denies treatment if the patient is:
Over 35.
May die in 10 years.
Has a three year record of the same disorder.
Requires long term care.
Is the son or daughter of the opposing political party.
Is not Hispanic, black or native American.
Is a legal resident of the United States.
Is not gay or lesbian.
Is on the Home Land Security Watch list.
Got a parking ticket in the last 5 years.
Owns a gun.
Had relatives killed in the Holocaust,
Complained about ACORN
Complained about CAIR.
Voted against the incumbent party.
Read Orwell’s 1984 and Ann Rand’s Atlas Shrugged
Does not accept the Freedom Act.
Believes marriage is between a man and a woman.
Owns golf clubs.
Watches FOX News.
Discusses politics at coffee shops.
And when they are all gone, the Liberasl are next.
right_on–right on. Follow the money.
More than that, it’s about the ME factor. And whatever makes the ME uncomfortable or requires sacrifice of ME needs to be eliminated.
Terri Schiavo represented a burden, to her husband who broke his marriage vows and stood to gain financially from her death, to the “system” because it costs a lot to treat someone like Schiavo with dignity, and to them because they might have to think about someone else as a human being and not a commodity.
That’s what it’s all about.
mach1duck, that plan won’t work. When they have done eliminating all the people on this list, where will they get their money?
Why, from that pipe hanging down from the sky, of course!
Actually, LGM may be onto something here. People pay more to have FedEx handle their deliveries than they pay at the post office. (This is true in my case, based on charges from ebay sales shipments.)
You see, the post office is rather crappy. FedEx does a pretty good job. Ergo, people pay more for better service.
In Health Care, people may very well elect to pay more for better service rather than taking whatever cheese Obamachev feels like giving us.
Some people would pay more for better service. However,I don’t see that being allowed under OBAMACARE, except illegally. We proletariats will be required to have but OBAMACARE as our one, and only, equal source of health care.
Of course for Dear Leader and certain polital allies and certain elites, only the very best will be available…at our expense.
But that may be verboten, as it wouldn’t be “fair” for people to pay for health care out of their own pocket. From Investors’ Business Daily, dated April 30, 2008:
So paying for better care may not be an option.
Remember, it’s all about “equality” – equally crappy health care where the healthy and the lucky survive while the unfortunate are left to die or offed to save a few bucks.
Gotta love that progress!
Like Maggie said, Socialism is fine… until you run out of other people’s money.
I find it VERY interesting on these posts as well as among conservative pundits like Michelle there is no discussion whatsoever about the 800 pound gorilla in the room in terms of health care costs.
TORT REFORM…..
Lack of it costs doctors and patients tens of billions of dollars that add to the cost of insurance and thus care.
In Texas, it is EXTREMELY difficult to maintain a med-mal lawsuit to a verdict, due to tort reforms passed several years ago. Very few law firms will even try now.
Check out the costs of health insurance in Texas over the years. Check out the costs of physician’s insurance over the years.
Tort reform has be grossly oversold. It isn’t magic.
If some quack mutilated you or killed your loved one, would you want the damages capped?
This is a distinctly contrarian view, but I think lawsuits are market solutions to market problems. Think of how they evolved in our history, and I think you might agree.
An idiot doctor almost killed my mother with heperin (sp?) that he never should have prescribed.
I told the regular attending doctor that if I took legal action it would not be for compensation as such, it would be for direct medical expenses, legal expenses, and that doctor’s license. And I added I’d live with the expense, if I got his license.
That is what we need more of. When they screw up make them pay through suspension or removal.
Rags,
P.S. Forgot to mention, thanks for the background on what went on in Texas regarding TORT reform. That’s good info.
No, but when you have shysters like John Edwards convincing juries that Doctors are responsible for something that was in God’s hands, good people lose. There’s a reason why there aren’t many OBs in Madison County, IL anymore. And it isn’t because they were all bad. Lying-a$$ lawyers (redundant) and ’stick-it-to-the-man’ juries have driven malpractice insurance premiums to the point where OBs can’t make a living in that county.
I don’t doubt one bit that they will want to make Obamacare a requirement, but for the moment they are at least pretending to accept having competition.
LGM’s point had to do with competition, so I didn’t want to steer off that track. However, your point has merit because that is EXACTLY what HillaryCare was. I do believe Obamachev will eventually take us there, he’s just smart enough to put us in the water while it’s still cold.