Californicating Oklahoma
Look out, Oklahomans. Here come the California refugees:
Fleeing the Great Depression and a drought unprecedented in American history, a vast wave of Oklahomans and Texans dubbed “Okies” loaded everything they could onto crowded vehicles during the 1930s and headed west for California. Today, in huge numbers, their grandchildren are moving back…
…From 2004 through 2007, about 275,000 Californians left the Golden State for the old Dust Bowl states of Oklahoma and Texas, twice the number that left those two states for California, recent Internal Revenue Service figures show. In fact, the mid-South gained more residents from California during those four years than either Oregon, Nevada or Arizona. The trend continued into 2008.
As a result, it’s easy to find Californians – even former Sacramentans – living and working in Oklahoma City, a capital of the American heartland.
Unlike the Taxinator, the escapees won’t be back.
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They’re probably sick of the over-regulation and taxation of the state.
Yes. Michigan is experiencing this, and Wisconsin will be increasingly.
If we had the money, we’d be out of Wisconsin so fast it’d make Gov. Jim Doyle’s tax-loving head spin.
They’re welcome in Texas.
We’re friendly, but watchful.
BTW, I’m a native Californian, but only by an accident of birth. My family goes back to Austin’s Old 300 in Texas.
I just hope my home state effects them more than they effect it.
That’s ok with Californians, I’m sure. The empty places will be filled by brand-new ‘Californians’ who are ready to step in & pay their fair share…
*snerk*
The Golden State is getting rusty. Notice how people in blue states finally get fed up and go to a red state?
Watch out, Texas & Oklahoma. Here in the eastern south, we have refugees from NY and NJ and they vote for the same policies that poisoned their home states to start with. It’s true in Va and our NC friends say it’s happening there.
Fixed it.
If they want to really COME here, and adopt our ways, and truly become Okies, then they’re welcome.
But, if they want to change Oklahoma just like they’ve done with Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, et.al., then stay away!
Incidently, it was Californians who first derisively refered to dust bowl refugees as “Okies.” They meant it as an insult. What should we call THEM now?
I hope these movers aren’t the same type(libs) that have overrun Oregon and Washington, they turned those states as blue as Khalifornia.
Don’t bet on it.
I left for the very same reasons and if California got its financial act together and they ran most of the gays out of San Francisco, I’d move back in a minute.
I suggest “Cali-flowers”.
The libs tend to stay close by to similar thinking cities and states (Oregon, Washington, etc.) The conservative folks are moving to tax free states like NV, TX, etc., same thing I’m looking to do hopefully by this time next year. I’ll be moving to a state that actually respects my beliefs, etc.
Yep. And except for those Nazi guys, Germany would have been nirvana…
How about Cokies?
As long as they leave their lefty politics in CA, they’re welcome. Otherwise they will do to Oklahoma and Tx what they’re in the process of doing to Colorado: Californicating it by electing lefty Dems.
Good luck to the midwest. They came in droves to the NW during the early 90′s.
The problem is they brought their failed politics and even worse driving habits with them.
Here in TX, and in OK, we take the 2nd serious. If you think it is not for you, we won’t think it is ‘sweet’ of you to try to do away with it.
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The Californians already messed up ‘Vegas.
My condolences to Oklahoma. I used to reside in Reno, a fun little friendly town where people did their own thing without being bothered by anyone else. In the late 90s, loud, brash, ignorant, smug, vile, nasty, Kalifornicators came by the bucketful, and tranformed Reno into something unrecognizable. Have mercy on Oklahoma.
How full of “S” so many of you are. I suggest you thank many of us for taking the hit. Many of our illegal alien friends will soon inhabit your areas and you can share the responsibilites that “OUR” government has put on us. I would like to thank so many of you because your great-grandparents brought their DNA to California during the dust-bowl exodus and the spawn of those people grew-up and brought all this with them to the legislation. Thanks. Having said that I will be very happy to be a Texan.
How about “Forkies”?
As in “Fork It Over, It’s Ours Now.”
While tax payers have been fleeing the once Golden State in record numbers, the overall population still increases due to tax takers moving in.
Some folks just can’t seem to learn that they helped make California what it is now. They don’t believe it is was them that contributed to the ruining of their former state.
Instead of blending in and adapting to local customs and politics, too many refugees often will do all they can to recreate the conditions, wherever they relocate, that drove them out of California in the first place.
Fleeing taxes…that’s all.
Back in the 70s and 80s we had a wave of refugees from Michigan…
then from the Western Provinces of Canada (where their govt. shut down the oil fields).
We took ‘em in, taught them how to speak Texan, and they didn’t turn out too bad.
Texas has its own culture, and it really is a different place.
Absolutely. Pefectly reasonable places get screwed over by liberals. Its happening in Arizona and Colorado with expat Californians, Florida and Georgia with expat New Englanders, etc.
It would be interesting to know how many of those leaving are, like me, native Californians. It seems likely to me that the people who buggered the state are those who came from elsewhere.
I’m a 3rd-generation native; I left in 2000 for North Carolina, and I am never going back.
A true understatement. The news reported last week that corporate tax revenue was down 40% in the state. Majority party solution…raise taxes.
One really can’t blame the liberal idiots in the state houses for their shortsighted, money-grabbing mentality, and their efforts to get as much money as possible for their constituency…they were, after all, elected by their peers…products of years of social programming, entitlements, and the children of illegal immigrants, who are NOW the majority population.
The liberal LOONS left MA for New Hampshire and are rapidly changing it into another MA.
Beware!!
That is the strangest irony of it all:
After ruining a once golden state like California by electing tax-and-spend Liberals and embracing every entitlement program presented,
Liberals get tired of what they’ve created and move to more business-friendly states like Texas and my Oklahoma.
… where they continue to vote for the same ruinous ideas and candidates.
these people simply cannot understand how they destroyed states like California and Michigan.
Hello all, the problem with this lies in the fact that ‘they soiled their nests in CA so badly’ now they seek fertile ground where they will ‘sow the same liberal seed’ and eventually acheive the same result.
I can fully understand and appreciate people escaping from California. But PLEASE, learn a lesson here. Leave your liberal ideals in California. The places you are attracted to are that way for a reason. They are mostly conservative. Unchecked liberalism will destroy those places too
Have a great day all
The biggest concentration of the dust bowl inheritance was in Kern County and points north. Interestingly enough, that same area used to have the most conservatives in the state. All up and down the central valley and parts of the East Bay was Republican. The liberals seemed to like the larger cities – Los Angeles, the Bay Area and Sacramento. That has largely changed by the number of “immigrants”, that may or may not be legal to vote, that have moved into the Central Valley. The population demographics have changed, but it’s unfair to blame the children of the dust bowl. They were some of the hardest working and most conservative of any in California.
California changed with the invasion of easterners who loved the weather, loved the highend university system, loved the pristine scenery and wanted to keep those lowlife ranchers and farmers from messing it up (for their own good dontcha’ know). After all, armed with a BA, MBA or doctorate – they had to keep these people from hurting the most productive produce state on the planet from ruining itself. It was the bread basket of the world…now it’s a parking lot.
Tax Burdens.
metastasis: the spread of a disease-producing agency (as cancer cells) from the initial or primary site of disease to another part of the body
I just want to warn people about what happens when Californians move into your neighborhood. They may say that they moved out because it got so bad they couldn’t stand it there any more. But then they immediately try to turn their new area into California.
One young childless couple even threatened to sue the city if they didn’t stop kids from riding bicycles down their street. This happened after they almost hit one while backing out of their driveway. They move into a friendly neighborhood and soon turn neighbor against neighbor in their quest to add unending restrictions to HOA rules and city laws. And if you ask them why, they’ll say that’s how things are done in California – the place they left! Go figure.
Since I’ve lived in Wyoming, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Virginia, Maryland, Wisconsin, New Mexico and California, I personally prefer the term “American”.
People are the same everywhere, it’s the individuals that are different. That Californian moving in next door might actually be a better neighbor than the trailer trash that have lived on your street their whole lives.
Meanwhile, I think I’ll go sit out on the patio, next to the pool, amid the palm trees. Although, it is cloudy and only in the 70s today, a little bit like January.
Lived in So Cal for 15 years, left for NC in 2001. Prop 13 (1978) spelled doom for the housing market. The chicken are coming home to roost…
What will they do when the rich move out of the state and the money dries up??? Who are they going to suck the living life out of then considering the entitlement rich population isn’t going to provide any $$$? Oh yeah, they can rely on their Hollywierd rich folk. Those will be the only ones left.
Maybe then, and only then, they will realize their failed policies have driven out the fountain of wealth.
Despite the popular perception, not ALL CA’s are leftist nuts… we just REALLY like the weather here. Reagan was a CA ex-liberal, so don’t dismiss the whole demographic out of hand. Despite some of the raging social-liberals, most CA’s actually identify as fiscally conservative, a la Howard Jarvis. Well, citizens anyway. And I don’t count unconstitutional anchor baby BS as “citizens.”
Typical of liberal lack of personal responsibility, it’s NEVER their fault that things got so screwed up…somebody else did it..and to prove it they do the very same things wherever they move.
Its easer to do thatthan stay and work to fix the overwhelming disaster they’ve created.
Eventually, if OK, TX and the like, don’t slap some sense into former residents of such states as CA and MI , ALL 57 of our states will enjoy the same level of hope and change of the workers paradise we continue to experience here in CASSR.
californians leave that crap state of their’s in droves and then want to turn the state they move to into the same parasitic failed state they left, sort of reminds one of illegals doesn’t it.
A Dimocrat voter screed…
Living in Texas, this makes me nervous. I don’t necessarily mind Californians moving here, as long as they don’t try to change the political character of the state. Translation – CONSERVATIVES from California, make yourself at home.
However, if you are a Californian who wants to come here to Texas and try to turn our state into something just like the one you just left, please just stay where you are. We like our low tax, low regulation, business friendly environment here. California once had that, but a majority of Californians have now killed the goose that laid their golden egg.
Umm, Federal bailout? When teh One decides to spread the wealth of all of us across the sinkhole which is California, we’re all sunk.
How sweet of you to consider what lives on my street. Careful, your superior slip is showing.
Go ahead with your California Dreaming. California won’t get its act together … ever. There are too many wagon-riders and not enough wagon-pullers there to have that happen. The place is a wagon-rider and / or get-rich-quick-schemer magnet.
Which is why I left 6 years ago after moving there with my family when I was in high school in 1963 and living there most of the years between then and 2003. Nothing could convince me to move back. It’s only going to get worse.
A little bitter are you, Johnny?
It wasn’t the great-grandparents coming to California during the 30′s and 40′s that ruined it. Those people made California the “Golden State” when it truly was through hard work and a desire to be exceptional. What has ruined California are the deadbeats that started coming since the late 60′s and the illegals that started coming since the 90′s.
as a native of California I wont be fleeing . Im just going to hunker down and continue to do recon from behind the enemy lines . I don’t need the states services, i can pretty much live off the grid. An I cant wait for the acorn goons to come to my front gate to do the census.
I’ve told this story so many times, but it bears repeating. I left California 15 years ago. I still have family there that are chomping at the bits to leave too. We have 2 (3 on one side) generations buried there.
When I fled the state, I did not vote the first year in my new state. I did get involved with my political party and found out the local issues. I left knowing I didn’t know the new area at all. It takes years, and in some places a lifetime, to feel at home and that you’re a part of it. But, copping the idea that you know more than locals do or your ideas might be better for them is a real stretch.
Yeah, they’ve been bringing their nannyism government and Marxist policies to Colorado for years. That’s how we now have complete Democrat control of the state, harsh regulation of oil and gas companies, national forests and state parks that only hikers can use, ridiculous policies for managing wildlife that encroach on private property rights, etc.
If they don’t like California, they shouldn’t bring what they don’t like about it to Colorado.
Well, it weren’t my folks and others who moved here from Iowa who I like to think brought some good old midwest sensiblilties.
Long Beach once once known as “Iowa by the Sea”, Ontario had a grand “All States picnic” during the summer seemingly dominated by former midwesterners.
Back then, the 50′s,60′s and into the early 70′s were pretty good, economically, for the most part.
IIRC that non-Califonia born residents outnumbered the native born Califonians during that time and contributed to the growth and wealth of California leading the way in education and technology.
If it’s non-native Californians who are “buggering” the state, it has to be more recent arrivals.
The idea that these people are turning red states blue is the most depressing thing I have been witnessing in political studies.
The idea that they are aware of this fact….”that’s the way we did it in California” is even more disheartening.
I guess America will just be a big commie mush pot.
Don’t worry, they’ll populate the major metropolitan areas and move the state to the liberal left like they do in Illinois and is now happening in Virginia. They’ll keep voting themselves more and more grom the government trough.
Many members of my family were Okies that lived that “Grapes of Wrath” nightmare. They found their niche in the farming & Aerospace industries. They fought for it. I moved to Orange County which is Republican although they struggle with RINOS here.
A majority of my family sill live in SW Okla. I would consider moving there to be closer to family but it is hard to give up the fun & sun that is CA. No wind, (when the wind comes sweeping down the plain isn’t as good as it sounds), few bugs, no real tornadoes, no storms.
There is traffic, there is the threat of earthquakes, there is an influx of immigrants that don’t give a flip about American language, culture, laws, or it’s people. In some parts of Texas and Okla, the sun is out in the summer until almost 10:00 pm! In CA it is 8:00pm at best. And the liberal culture here that makes people think they are “tolerant” and “giving” is so bogus when compared to Christian family values commonly found in Okla.
But life on the farm is just not as good as bikinis on the beach and good weather year round. As I wondered when I moved here, how can people afford the rents? I paid $350/mo for a 1100 sq ft 3 bedroom house in OKC but moved to a 650 sq ft one bedroom apt in CA for $700/mo. Those now go for $1200/mo. They pay higher salaries here. I just love the weather and things to do.
This Okie says CA is Okie Dokie.
My wife and I had this conversation this past weekend. We moved to CA from the Midwest in 1982 and have basically given up hope in this state ever righting itself fiscally, politically or philosophically.
Even if by the grace of God, the state government muddles it way out of the fiscal crisis de jour, the horizon is darkened by the impending crush of retirement benefits for state and local government workers. They total into the hundreds of billions of dollars.
So even if we can escape bigger taxes today to get to tomorrow, next year or sometime not too long from now the realization will hit that all those union contract cave-ins were not funded and the bills are coming due.
I agreed to start scoping out potential new places to call home. My guess is that we will move by this time next year. We talked about how many more middle and upper income families in CA are having this same conversation, and how the income tax base in this state will crumble in the next few years.
Fornies.
Look out, Oklahoma and Texas.
I saw what this same phenomena did to Washington State (particularly the Puget Sound/Kitsap County areas) back in the early ’90s.
These people flee taxes and over-crowding, but take their Nanny-State flag with them. They are the equivalent of uncontrolled Liberal exportation.
That reminds me, the Seattle Sonics went Okie too – boo hiss.
Hey Oklahoma and Texas…..good luck to you, although I fear they’re just bringing more Dem votes to your states. Sadly it’s not the dems flocking out of Michigan….it’s gonna get rough here.
Well, if they’re fed up with Kalifornia and seeking a freer, lower tax and regulation place to work and raise a family, I’d suggest “neighbor”.
How long before these Califruitians shut down Sonic Drive-In and Braum’s Ice Cream and Del Rancho Drive-In.
Got to save those ignorant Okies from themselves……
We still have Sonics in CA. Just have to drive a ways. We don’t have Braums or Blue Bell Ice Cream for that matter.
Also breaded okra is hard to come by.
Just took a trip to beautiful Colorado…never saw a dump while there (though I’m sure parts of Denver are bad, for example). Can’t help thinking the liberal people there are victims of their affluence where they’ve lost touch with what got them to their standard of living in the first place. They’ll eventually go the way of California some day. The liberal infestation will continue until they break their own bank and are handed the bill. It’s exceptionally immoral to have others have to foot the bill for their willful and reckless irresponsibility.
Del Rancho chicked fried steak sandwich. A real feast. mmmm….
Hope the escapees don’t screw up Oklahoma like all those New York escapees are destroying Florida. Why these morons escape leftist states only to turn their adopted homes left I’ll never know. Ignorant to the last.
Hangfire – thems fightin’ words!
Our legislature just passed a bill to put the 10 commandements in the state capital and the governor signed it. However, the influx of Californians to Oklahoma has been evident over the past few years. We have more bleached blonds with boob jobs than anywhere else in the nation. Business is good for plastic surgeons here in the dust bowl.
Long Live OKLAHOMA the land that I love!
Gotta love ‘em.
Those who have fled, I mean.
Over here on the East Coast, the state of Maryland is noticing the same as AHHHNOLD in California.
Maryland raised its taxes, simply put, assuming that “the rich” would just cough up the dough. Well, it seems that, this year, the Maryland taxman noticed an exodus of 1/3 (100,000 of the 300,000) of “wealthiest” taxpayers from the state…producing a shortfall.
OOPS.
Well, not exactly “oops”…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
The best thing Texas and Oklahoma can do is have the State legislatures pass a law that does not recognize “teachers certificates” from Califruity.
Make them enter a re-education camp for six months before they can teach in an Oklahoma or Texas public school.
Misscheryl,
I’d move back to Oklahoma in a heartbeat, as soon as my mother-in-law assumes room temperature.
Besides, I don’t want to leave Aloha Guy as the last Malkinite in Hawai’i.
42-year conservative San Diegan here, but soon to be another California refugee (counting the minutes to June 30th!).
Moving to a lovely home in Indiana in two weeks.
As long as Kuh-lee-fornia has liberals who truly hate America & its citizens and businesses, (Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Newsom, One-Bill-Gil [Cedillo], Maxine Waters, et al), the once-beautiful state of California will continue to be overrun/over-populated with illegals who have no regard for our laws, culture, or citizens and who only want to bring Mexico/Guatemala/El Salvador/pick-a-country-south-of-the-border “here.”
Watch the Red States turn Blu. I hope the refugees don’t propagate the failed politics of California.
Maybe more Okies and Texans should move to the Bay Area in California.
They still know how to separate the men from the boys….
…with a crowbar!
Need I remind everyone of an old term that will likely experience a resurgence in Oklahoma and Texas in the near future. Perhaps the exact term will change but the meaning and emotion of the term will be the same: Damn Yankee.
And therein lies the problem in Kalifornia.
Thoough I like the physical attributes of the state… Riverside County in particular, I hate the politics, taxes and politics out there.
I lived 4 years in OKC. Well, my stuff was there… I spent most of my time in Riyadh, Keflavik, Vegas, etc. Still, I enjoyed it there. Ya gotta love a place that has oil pumpers in the circular areas in highway clover leafs.
Greatthread topic. Devisive. People are worried and stressed about losing their homes, providing for their families, leaving their lifestyles, their families, their friends, uprooting their children and moving to an unfamiliar place. Has it occured to some people that people leaving California ar those looking for jobs, willing to work and pay taxes. The ones staying are the ones willing to live off the welfare state. Illegal immigration is a Federal problem, California bears the brunt of failed Clinton and Bush policies. (But don’t worry, now that there are no jobs left in California, all of the illegals will be headed elsewhere.) Many of the mortgages that ruined the housing market with subprimes given to illegals, irresponsibles and speculators were from banks headquartered in New York and North Carolina. Christopher Dodd, that great friend of Countrywide Financial is from Connecticut. All this topic does is invite bigoted, provincial responses. Nice, MM.Glad you live in MisterRogers neighborhood. Are the Unicorns rainbow colored there?
Many members of my family were or are teachers in Okla & Texas. My sister teaches Special Education students in Texas. (Many of her students were infant or fetus victims of drug abuse by the way.)
She would agree whole heartedly with you Hangfire. We don’t need the CA liberal dogma in the Tex/OK school system. Thats where liberals start their brainwashing nowadays. It is not by accident but by design.
So you are just bailing on me bananny?
I love the weather here in San Diego, and there are far more lefty areas of the state, but none of that will matter when it all comes down thanks to irresponsible government elected by gimmie gimmie gimmie voters. Pathetic.
Texas sounds better and better all the time!
But they’ll vote for the same type of idiots in OK. It’s exactly what’s
happeninghappened to NC.My husband and I left CA two years ago and would never return. We love Iowa and the town we live in. People actually wave and smile at you
Oklahoma City is the only state capitol with an oil well in it’s front yard.
Also, Oklahoma is the only state with a Broadway Musical about it, and the only state to take it’s state song from a Broadway Musical.
When Orange County went bankrupt a few years ago, it didn’t really impact my life. Maybe others. While the state is having its problems, many will be impacted, perhaps even myself. My prediction, however, is not based on the current situation but what the future plan is.
State pols are actually trying to keep the status quo. I think they said they can’t take away the “support system” that many people rely on. And the Feds are run amok with cries of share the wealth, fairness, take from those who have and give to those who need.
The Feds, as well as State pols in CA are unchecked. They control everything. They believe in their policies (or benefit personally from them) and will drag us down the abyss to prove they are right. They control the masses and the flow of information to the masses so they are protected to do their evil. When it fails, they will blame Bush. Finger pointers all and the Governator does it too.
If they’re from LA, they’re probably “cokies”.
Tre & Dexter,
Have you ever ridden one of those oil pumpers? Climb up and scoot all the way to the front and ride it up and down with that 2 stroke engine going “boof’ boof, boof, boof. Watch your feet and hands though. There are moving parts.
As the saying goes, people always has the right to vote. If they have no other means, they vote with their feet.
But wait–why did they run to a conservative state? I thought democrats knew how to run things? Why didn’t they run to Michigan or Illinois, where democrats “in the know” are running everything (into the ground)?
My son well be attending school at a junior college in Oklahoma in the fall. Three others that he knows are going out with him and as far as I know there are many other Californians in the same JC and more that transferred from our local JC to OSU.
When we met with the individual recruiting him, he guaranteed that my son would be done and transferring to a four year in two years… Something that is not happening in California presently.
That I know of there is not a liberal kid in the bunch… All hard working extremely conservative agricultural majors. I’d like to add… all were heavily recruited. All 4 boys that I know received scholarships of tuition and housing. They are all glad to be studying their major in the mid-west… They believe it will be a better education and that they will be better off for it.
yo southpaw; you seem to lay california’s, florida’s, arizona’s and nevada’s real estate problems at the doorstep of politicians. did it never occur to you during the 90′s and 2000′s that NO real estate market can go up 20% per year forever? people losing jobs; yeah that’s because your state’s congress and the federal congress think business is a dirty word good for nothing except paying taxes and employing real people. business in america has been punished, taxed, denegrated, sued, vilified and crapped on for 3 decades, and finally the business investors are saying enough is enough. why should i pay for a bunch of uaw slugs who hate me, or teachers union who vilify me to my kids, or media jerks who propagandize that i am a greedy parasite when i pay more taxes than all but the richest individuals if my business makes over 25k per year in profit. (35% so when you hear about those greedy bastards in the energy industry making 10 billion dollars in a quarter, they conveniently forget to tell you they will pay 3.5 billion dollars that quarter in taxes to the feds, plus a bunch to the state and community. CALIFORNIA MADE IT’S BED, JUST AS MICHIGAN, NEW YORK, AND NEW JERSEY. ONE PARTY DEMOCRAT “SOAK THE RICH AND SPEND ON THE PARTY FAITHFUL” RULE HAS BROKE THE BANKS. AND THOSE WITH MONEY ARE SEEKING BETTER PASTURES.
These may be people returning to their home state, not just moving. The question is, did they particiapte in voting in the people who created the financial mess or where they just caught up in it?
They may have voted for these idiots and when the idiots policies caused them to lose their jobs, they had no choice but to return.
They probably do not make the connection between their job loss and the people they elected. Therefore, they will make the same errors in Okla.
You can find dozens of smart economic and political people who were saying for years that the housing boom was unsustainable, that what would happen is actually what did happen. And yet, regulators and congressional oversight did nothing. Two words: Fannie and Freddie.
Close the border boys! After 80 years in the Peoples’ Republik of Kalifornicaters they are contaminated-Close the border boys! We have a bunch of them here is Arizona and they are worse than white flys – we can’t even spray for them. Close the border boys!
Oklahomans are OK, Kalifornicaters aren’t. Close the border boys!
Sorry to bail on ya, JusDreamin, but we have so had it with the direction of California’s non-stop PC politics. I love San Diego, but the sheer fiscal suicide of constantly providing entitlements to people who aren’t even supposed to be in America is more than I can digest anymore. Our grown kids are still here and are doing well, but the house we bought is big enough to house any of them should they have to flee California (beautiful 2400 sq ft brick home on a gorgeous almost-one-acre lot). I told them I’d continue to fight the good fight on their behalf from Indiana.—–It will be sad to finally go, but I’m looking forward to this new chapter/journey.
You know… every time I talk about moving from New Jersey to Texas, all my friends in Texas tell me how terrible it is… 120 degrees in the shade at noon but below freezing at night… Cock-a-roaches the size of Buicks… Electricity only works for a few hours each week… Not a decent Half-Fat Mocha Shot Viente Latte to be had in the entire state…
I hear those horror stories and decide I’ll just have to stay here in New Jersey. Thank goodness I have so many good Texas friends!
All too true.
I fear for my wonderful home state.
Nope, not that I wasn’t that stupid. I just didn’t think of it. Seems like I read an article recently where a teen lost one of his favorite limbs doing that.
Texas doesn’t have enough class for most Californians.
Minuet means “you and I have dined.”
Lived in Texas for 23 years before moving a few states north. Texans can pretty much hold their own and need to do so with this influx.
Texans and Okies, don’t y’all give even one inch!
Yes. But with the influx of illegal aliens into The Peoples Socialist Quagmire of California, I’ll bet Texas and Oklahoma have to give up representatives to CA come 2010.
This is why illegal immigration is a violation of States rights.
As a native and current Californian (and a conservative at that), let me suggest the following: I’ll stay in California if we can trade our two Senators (Feinstein and Boxer) for Oklahoma’s two Senators (Imhofe and Coburn).
Deal??
I’m just saying that I don’t have trailer trash on my street.
Mind you, I do live in a rural area, so I’m sure there’s some meth cookers around here somewhere.
Will that do?
Gridlock, that’s BS! Those friends just don’t want to share that wonderful state with you.
I DID move there from New Jersey. Don’t live there now and love both NJ and TX but if I ever get a chance to return someday, I’ll pick Texas. There’s a ‘pride’ that comes along with living in Texas. Can’t describe it better than that.