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		<title>By: California: Big Banks Tell Gov. Schwarzenegger No More IOUs &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-739528</link>
		<dc:creator>California: Big Banks Tell Gov. Schwarzenegger No More IOUs &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to raise cash and California elected officials&#8217; pay will be cut 18% Michelle Malkin: Californicating Oklahoma and Nice “work” if you can get it and No “robust debate” on amnesty and Latinos to Obama: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to raise cash and California elected officials&#8217; pay will be cut 18% Michelle Malkin: Californicating Oklahoma and Nice “work” if you can get it and No “robust debate” on amnesty and Latinos to Obama: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reverse Okies &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-724143</link>
		<dc:creator>Reverse Okies &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shynes</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-722507</link>
		<dc:creator>shynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Born and raised in Oklahoma and now living in the northern part of Louisiana, I&#039;m not sure why anyone would live anywhere else but the south.  Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana seem buffered from the economic issues the rest of the country face.  Its because our governors know what fiscal responsibility is!  As a teacher paid by the state we are facing cuts, but they have to happen, and I am willing to do my part.  We don&#039;t have teacher unions here to screw things up.  Again, why live anywhere else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Born and raised in Oklahoma and now living in the northern part of Louisiana, I&#8217;m not sure why anyone would live anywhere else but the south.  Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana seem buffered from the economic issues the rest of the country face.  Its because our governors know what fiscal responsibility is!  As a teacher paid by the state we are facing cuts, but they have to happen, and I am willing to do my part.  We don&#8217;t have teacher unions here to screw things up.  Again, why live anywhere else?</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyDog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-722339</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would have left California two years ago but we could not sell our house.We were just about 6 months too late to get our home sold. There are 6 houses on our street that have been on the market for over 12 months.Most have reduce the sales price by over 60% and still cannot sell them.

If and when the real estate market comes back we are out of here.

I used to think we could fix what is wrong here but since the turncoat Arnold got elected, I believe it is too late short of a state bankruptcy or another prop 13.

This state is owned by the Liberals and most importantly the public employees unions.They have gerrymandered the voting districts and you cannot vote them out of office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would have left California two years ago but we could not sell our house.We were just about 6 months too late to get our home sold. There are 6 houses on our street that have been on the market for over 12 months.Most have reduce the sales price by over 60% and still cannot sell them.</p>
<p>If and when the real estate market comes back we are out of here.</p>
<p>I used to think we could fix what is wrong here but since the turncoat Arnold got elected, I believe it is too late short of a state bankruptcy or another prop 13.</p>
<p>This state is owned by the Liberals and most importantly the public employees unions.They have gerrymandered the voting districts and you cannot vote them out of office.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing News</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-722060</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Okies Return...&lt;/strong&gt;

Liberal politics are so upside and backwards, they can make history run in reverse. Desperate to get away from the confiscatory taxes, stagnant economy, and social disintegration that are the unavoidable consequences of liberal rule, Californians are l...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Okies Return&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Liberal politics are so upside and backwards, they can make history run in reverse. Desperate to get away from the confiscatory taxes, stagnant economy, and social disintegration that are the unavoidable consequences of liberal rule, Californians are l&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-721981</link>
		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;On June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm, lgm said:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;I just took the opportunity for payback. If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m sorry, but it&#039;s hard to feel insulted by you because- 

a.) You&#039;re more than likely a GOP plant: your frequent posting of the same, unoriginal Democrat talking points found on many liberal sites, suggests you do so with the specific intent of affording commenters here the opportunity to develop their arguments against a Leftist issue and nothing more.

b.) You often appear to enlist your students to post for you, as evidenced by the sometimes abrupt changes and inconsistencies in your writing styles and argumentation. Writing styles are as unique and individualistic as fingerprints, yet there are times when yours vacillates from terse equivocations to semi-rage filled sarcasms, intimating they are not written by the same person.  

c.) The exact same criticisms and faults you seem to find so offensive in the many conservative commenters on this conservative site, are often exhibited by you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>On June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm, lgm said:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>I just took the opportunity for payback. If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but it&#8217;s hard to feel insulted by you because- </p>
<p>a.) You&#8217;re more than likely a GOP plant: your frequent posting of the same, unoriginal Democrat talking points found on many liberal sites, suggests you do so with the specific intent of affording commenters here the opportunity to develop their arguments against a Leftist issue and nothing more.</p>
<p>b.) You often appear to enlist your students to post for you, as evidenced by the sometimes abrupt changes and inconsistencies in your writing styles and argumentation. Writing styles are as unique and individualistic as fingerprints, yet there are times when yours vacillates from terse equivocations to semi-rage filled sarcasms, intimating they are not written by the same person.  </p>
<p>c.) The exact same criticisms and faults you seem to find so offensive in the many conservative commenters on this conservative site, are often exhibited by you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jet Jaguar</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-721927</link>
		<dc:creator>Jet Jaguar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm, lgm said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jet Jaguar said (#131):

    Wow, lgm, you sure are a people person. You have such a knack for making people feel better about themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Folks here can be pretty slow, but they do know then they’ve been insulted. I’m really tired of the “stupid liberal, stupid Californian, stupid elite” crap that gets poured over this blog. I just took the opportunity for payback. If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ok, lgm, I&#039;ll try to be more civil to you, but you do know why people insult you, right? It&#039;s not just me who does it, but several regular posters who take shots at you. Just in case you aren&#039;t aware, there are two major components to your posts that give rise to people&#039;s frustration:

-Most of your posts sound as though they are rote lib/Kos talking points. This is an immediate turnoff to people. This type of post travels the same synapse-ual path, I suspect, that we use to process telemarketers&#039; calls at dinner time. Nothing wrong with using talking points as a basis for a post, but you&#039;ve got to make it sound like it is from you ...like you really believe it.

-You usually &quot;hit and run&quot;. Most of your posts are just tossed into the mix and left there to die. You don&#039;t respond to honest thoughtful questions about your statements. This is VERY frustrating to people. IMHO no one should ever post without being willing to defend it. ...and it&#039;s ok to say &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot;, &quot;let me get back to you&quot;, &quot;I&#039;ll have to consider that&quot;, etc... We can respect that, but you (again IMHO) have actually conditioned people to stomp on you as soon as we see you. We humans teach others how to treat us. I have this tendency, but as I hope you&#039;ve noticed, I try to respond favorably to you when I think you&#039;ve made a good post.

I&#039;ll try to modify my behavior based on your request. I hope that you&#039;ll reciprocate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm, lgm said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jet Jaguar said (#131):</p>
<p>    Wow, lgm, you sure are a people person. You have such a knack for making people feel better about themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>Folks here can be pretty slow, but they do know then they’ve been insulted. I’m really tired of the “stupid liberal, stupid Californian, stupid elite” crap that gets poured over this blog. I just took the opportunity for payback. If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, lgm, I&#8217;ll try to be more civil to you, but you do know why people insult you, right? It&#8217;s not just me who does it, but several regular posters who take shots at you. Just in case you aren&#8217;t aware, there are two major components to your posts that give rise to people&#8217;s frustration:</p>
<p>-Most of your posts sound as though they are rote lib/Kos talking points. This is an immediate turnoff to people. This type of post travels the same synapse-ual path, I suspect, that we use to process telemarketers&#8217; calls at dinner time. Nothing wrong with using talking points as a basis for a post, but you&#8217;ve got to make it sound like it is from you &#8230;like you really believe it.</p>
<p>-You usually &#8220;hit and run&#8221;. Most of your posts are just tossed into the mix and left there to die. You don&#8217;t respond to honest thoughtful questions about your statements. This is VERY frustrating to people. IMHO no one should ever post without being willing to defend it. &#8230;and it&#8217;s ok to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221;, &#8220;let me get back to you&#8221;, &#8220;I&#8217;ll have to consider that&#8221;, etc&#8230; We can respect that, but you (again IMHO) have actually conditioned people to stomp on you as soon as we see you. We humans teach others how to treat us. I have this tendency, but as I hope you&#8217;ve noticed, I try to respond favorably to you when I think you&#8217;ve made a good post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to modify my behavior based on your request. I hope that you&#8217;ll reciprocate.</p>
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		<title>By: This Is What Happens When You Play A Woody Guthrie Record Backwards &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Is What Happens When You Play A Woody Guthrie Record Backwards &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Moonbattery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonbattery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Oakies Return...&lt;/strong&gt;

Liberal politics are so upside and backwards, they can make history run in reverse. Desperate to get away from the confiscatory taxes, stagnant economy, and social disintegration that are the unavoidable consequences of liberal rule, Californians are l...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Oakies Return&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Liberal politics are so upside and backwards, they can make history run in reverse. Desperate to get away from the confiscatory taxes, stagnant economy, and social disintegration that are the unavoidable consequences of liberal rule, Californians are l&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Deaux</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-721777</link>
		<dc:creator>John Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm, lgm said: 
 I just took the opportunity for payback. If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Please, PLEASE, stop insulting us. It hurts so much because all we want is your approval!

Idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm, lgm said:<br />
 I just took the opportunity for payback. If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please, PLEASE, stop insulting us. It hurts so much because all we want is your approval!</p>
<p>Idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: FilmLadd</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-721776</link>
		<dc:creator>FilmLadd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate California.</description>
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		<title>By: tiredofit08</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/15/californicating-oklahoma/comment-page-2/#comment-721763</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredofit08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and by the way you can have all the illegals that still managed to survive by working for cash or are brought in from Texas to do construction work and ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and by the way you can have all the illegals that still managed to survive by working for cash or are brought in from Texas to do construction work and ??</p>
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		<title>By: tiredofit08</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredofit08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On June 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    I’ll stay in California if we can trade our two Senators (Feinstein and Boxer) for Oklahoma’s two Senators (Imhofe and Coburn).

Could we add Pelosi as a bonus, too?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

nope sorry...we ain&#039;t trading our two for your two...for the most part Inhofe and Coburn are exactly what we want in OK...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On June 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, hawkeye54 said:</p>
<p>    I’ll stay in California if we can trade our two Senators (Feinstein and Boxer) for Oklahoma’s two Senators (Imhofe and Coburn).</p>
<p>Could we add Pelosi as a bonus, too?</p></blockquote>
<p>nope sorry&#8230;we ain&#8217;t trading our two for your two&#8230;for the most part Inhofe and Coburn are exactly what we want in OK&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DougT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the only people fleeing California are liberals?

Could it be that some folks from the right are just sick and tired of the economic mess and are just leaving it behind?

And, if the folks that are returning are truly the descendents of emigrating Texans and Okies from the Dust Bowl days, are we saying that they became liberals while in California?

This post was about emigration caused by a terrible economic environment.  The irony is evident.  And, they won&#039;t return, as Michelle said, unless and until a miracle occurs in California.

These potshots at people trying to find better lives are missing the point.  If they&#039;re fleeing the idiocy, and they came from middle America stock, and they are returning to their roots, why on earth would we think they would bring the failed politics that they are fleeing?

(And, atheling, I lived in Washington for many years.  The Everett to Olympia corridor didn&#039;t need an influx of Californians to be politically stupid.  Washingtonians handled that just fine on their own.  See eight years of Gregoire as simple proof.  It&#039;s unfortunate that that part of the state can drag everyone along with it.  I think the southern and eastern counties should secede.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the only people fleeing California are liberals?</p>
<p>Could it be that some folks from the right are just sick and tired of the economic mess and are just leaving it behind?</p>
<p>And, if the folks that are returning are truly the descendents of emigrating Texans and Okies from the Dust Bowl days, are we saying that they became liberals while in California?</p>
<p>This post was about emigration caused by a terrible economic environment.  The irony is evident.  And, they won&#8217;t return, as Michelle said, unless and until a miracle occurs in California.</p>
<p>These potshots at people trying to find better lives are missing the point.  If they&#8217;re fleeing the idiocy, and they came from middle America stock, and they are returning to their roots, why on earth would we think they would bring the failed politics that they are fleeing?</p>
<p>(And, atheling, I lived in Washington for many years.  The Everett to Olympia corridor didn&#8217;t need an influx of Californians to be politically stupid.  Washingtonians handled that just fine on their own.  See eight years of Gregoire as simple proof.  It&#8217;s unfortunate that that part of the state can drag everyone along with it.  I think the southern and eastern counties should secede.)</p>
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		<title>By: fluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lgm:&lt;blockquote&gt;Folks here can be pretty slow, but they do know then they’ve been insulted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A regular Dale Carnegie, you are.
 &lt;blockquote&gt;I’m really tired of the “stupid liberal, stupid Californian, stupid elite” crap that gets poured over this blog.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Kabuki theater, how multi-culti of you. I don&#039;t anyone here believes your posturing. We aren&#039;t likely to change our views; even an optimist like you can understand that.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I just took the opportunity for payback. &lt;/blockquote&gt;You do that pretty often.
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I have the nagging suspicion you will continue to feel insulted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lgm:<br />
<blockquote>Folks here can be pretty slow, but they do know then they’ve been insulted.</p></blockquote>
<p>A regular Dale Carnegie, you are.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m really tired of the “stupid liberal, stupid Californian, stupid elite” crap that gets poured over this blog.</p></blockquote>
<p>Kabuki theater, how multi-culti of you. I don&#8217;t anyone here believes your posturing. We aren&#8217;t likely to change our views; even an optimist like you can understand that.</p>
<blockquote><p>I just took the opportunity for payback. </p></blockquote>
<p>You do that pretty often.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you stop the insults, I promise to stop too.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have the nagging suspicion you will continue to feel insulted.</p>
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