Ensign resigns GOP leadership post

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 17, 2009 01:09 PM

I weighed in on the Ensign affair early this morning.

Just in: Ensign will resign his GOP leadership post as head of the Republican Policy Committee.

Only one word to add to what I’ve already said:

Good.

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  1. #1
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, pabarge said:

    Good.

  2. #2
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    That’s all well and good, but how come Democrats never do this? Step down…resign…etc.

    Mr. Frank? Mr. Dodd? Mr. Rangel? Blago? etc?

    I guess when it comes to ethics, it only applies to Republicans.

  3. #3
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, emjem24 said:

    While this is a good move and I applaud it, I wish that there was a more “even-handed” approach among both parties (channelling Lgm). When corruption or sex scandals hit the GOP it’s front page news. Republican members involved lose their power, even their positions because of it.

    Now juxtapose that with the treatment many Dems in Congress get. How many resign their leadership posts or positions based on sex scandals or corruption? Why haven’t Frank, Murtha, and their ilk gotten put out to pasture?

    Oh, that’s right… the Dems have no standards while the Republicans apply them when they’re “forced” or “blackmailed” to. It just goes to show much the Washington beltway changes these people and how term limits would “drain” the swamp.

    Ya hear that Nancy?

  4. #4
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, DagneyT said:

    BlameAmericaLast, I absolutely agree. I get so sick of our side throwing a wrong-doer under the bus, while the other side invites the wrong-doer into the bus, and proceed to cover-up for him/her!

  5. #5
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, babbledabble said:

    Blame America…. because the Dems never do anything wrong. It’s all Bush’s fault. (or was it Cheney?)

  6. #6
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Dagney, I agree. Here is Barney Frank who had a male prostitution ring being run out of his own apartment. And he is still in Congress.

    Now that’s CRIMINAL. Having an affair isn’t illegal. Morally wrong? Yes.

  7. #7
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:25 pm, Mark Harvey said:

    Don’t look for the Democrats to EVER resign any position ever.

  8. #8
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    I guess when it comes to ethics, it only applies to Republicans.

    That’s right. For the Dems its Party above all. But since they don’t promote morality and ethics (which would interfere with many of their lifestyles) so they have few if any moral or ethical standards to live up to.

    If you’re going to PROMOTE high moral values – YOU MUST LIVE by them or suffer the consequences if you don’t!

    It must be drilled into Republican leaders heads – they must understand they cannot long survive in politics by doing the same things in their private OR public lives the Dems do.

  9. #9
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:29 pm, tarpon said:

    Obama loons continue to erode the GOP senate.

    Question, why play along with this crap?

  10. #10
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:30 pm, zeroangel said:

    I really have mixed feelings about this kind of thing. Cheating is wrong, we all get that, but often times there are a great deal many more things going on in someone’s marraige then we are aware of.

    How do we know his marriage wasn’t more or less over already? What do we know about what goes on in his household?

    Anyone watch Jon and Kate plus 8? Jon is a dumbass and probably not the best role model, sure, but part of me says, “Geeezz, can I blame him?” Afterall, Kate can be a fire-breathing nitemare.

    Getting BJs from interns under desks is wrong on so many levels (not that it’s just cheating).

    But this? Isn’t it just plain old adultery?

    I get the fact that its pretty hypocritical to tout family values and then do a thing like this.

    However, is the Republican party really helping itself by throwing it’s folks under the bus in every instance?

  11. #11
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, rightisright said:

    Piglousie’s words: “most ethical congress eva”…translates to one of the biggest lies ever muttered by a human, right up there with Al Glowbal’s bs announcing man made climate change is not debatable. Now on the other side of the aisle they step down from their leadership positions or retire all together…who is the most ethical?

  12. #12
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, DagneyT said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, rightisright said:

    Piglousie’s words: “most ethical congress eva”…translates to one of the biggest lies ever muttered by a human,

    Except she didn’t mutter it, she proclaimed it loud and long! She’s like BO, if her lips are moving, she’s lying!

  13. #13
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, moonsbreath said:

    This is a personal matter between him and his wife. Unless it affected his decision making, he should not have resigned.

    Gee, where’s all that compassion to forgive?

  14. #14
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, Hangfire said:

    Sometimes it sucks having principles.

  15. #15
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I was listening to KOH Reno yesterday and there was talk that he was separated from his wife at the time when this happened.

    I guess the issue is why he had an affair with a married woman. Much less the wife of one of his staffers.

  16. #16
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, zeroangel said:

    I guess the issue is why he had an affair with a married woman. Much less the wife of one of his staffers.

    This is a valid point.

  17. #17
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:43 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    After dishonoring himself, he’s doing the honorable thing. Good. After his seemingly sincere expression of remorse and this act of contrition, he can work on rebuilding his reputation.

  18. #18
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, DagneyT said:

    Michelle, this category could easily be “the difference between them and us”.

  19. #19
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Ragspierre said:

    How do we differentiate ourselves from our opposition?

    Many, many of the posters here recite the idea that there is no difference between the politicians of the parties. To some extent, I agree with that. BUT ONLY TO SOME EXTENT.

    There are differences, and they should not be minimized.

    There is a lot of pressure for us to become like statists, and sometimes we can adopt the tactics they use that work, but we always have to test how much that would cost.

    Demarcating the differences for the American voter is a good thing, IMNHO.

  20. #20
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, John424 said:

    However, is the Republican party really helping itself by throwing it’s folks under the bus in every instance?

    Good point.

    Yeah, I get the argument about moral conduct, etc. And I don’t completely disagree.

    However . . .

    What was Ensign’s legislative record? I honestly don’t know and am curious. If he did good things, then I agree with ZA – are the Republicans, or conservatives for that matter, really doing themselves any favors by throwing people under the bus every single time?

  21. #21
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    Glad he resigned. At the very least, his personal problems (and all of the drama and suffering the jackass has brought on himself and his family) will take time away from being an effective leader.

    Also, he’s a pathetic selfish horses behind. Sorry, but you don’t just trip and fall with your genetalia onto someone else’s.

  22. #22
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I guess when it comes to ethics, it only applies to Republicans.

    Paging David Vitter…

    John Ensign made a mistake, but I hardly think it impacts his job in any way. We need competent elected officials, not boy scouts. The fact that he was once so self-righteous does not make his marital transgressions any worse; it makes for a cautionary tale against being so ostentatiously virtuous. I admire and strive to be like those who can be on their best behavior their whole married life, but I would never judge a man or woman who succumbed to desires we are born with.

  23. #23
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, Khyris said:

    As the saying goes:

    Republicans reject them, Democrats re-elect them

  24. #24
    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    What was Ensign’s legislative record? I honestly don’t know and am curious. If he did good things, then I agree with ZA – are the Republicans, or conservatives for that matter, really doing themselves any favors by throwing people under the bus every single time?

    He’s not giving up his seat in the House– nor should he. He’s just resigning his leadership position on the Republican Policy Committee. I think that’s fair. We will still have his vote.

  25. #25
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Simple enough. Republicans are adults, so if a Republican does something wrong, it’s a character flaw. Democrats have the emotional maturity of a 14-year-old, so they see the same flaws as a resume enhancement – like the first guy in the class to actually get to feel a girl’s “bosom”.

  26. #26
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, tre said:

    Ensign, don’t go away mad, just go away!

  27. #27
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, John424 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    OK Dex, but with a Republican, the next step always seems to be that leaving the leadership post isn’t enough, that person is usually forced to resign altogether.

    On the other hand, RSS’s comment is about enough to make me re-think any kind of a defense for Ensign.

  28. #28
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:48 pm, granite said:

    Only one word to add to what I’ve already said:

    Good.

    Agreed.

    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Simple enough. Republicans are adults, so if a Republican does something wrong, it’s a character flaw. Democrats have the emotional maturity of a 14-year-old, so they see the same flaws as a resume enhancement – like the first guy in the class to actually get to feel a girl’s “bosom”.

    Exactly.
    Well said.

  29. #29
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Near as I can tell, Ensign resigned on his own initiative.

    He was not hounded out.

    Apparently, he was acting according to what his best interests told him he should do. That could be totally conscience-driven, but it could also be a very shrewd PR move. He takes himself out of the limelight, and begins the process of reconstruction.

  30. #30
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The Dems showed through Clinton’s adultery scandals, Gerry Studds sodomizing 16 year old boys, and Barney’s Frank trading free sex with a gay prostitute in exchange for letting him use the house as a bordello that morals are for suckers.

    Hell, Clinton lied under oath several times, including to a Fed grand jury, and encouraged government employees to lie under oath for him. But lying under oath, committing and suborning perjury, is all ok if it is to cheat some woman from Arkansas out of a court settlement for being hit on by the lecher in chief. There is fairly believable stories of sexual assault and rape concerning Clinton, and as long as he is pro-abortion, NOW and the supposed feminists don’t care.

    Dems have no morals, as far as sex goes.

    But, it means they can never be accused of hypocrisy, since anything goes, no matter how disgusting and sordid.

  31. #31
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, letget said:

    An affair is wrong IMO. Hubby and I had a chat about this before we married and he knows how it would turn out for him should he choose to ‘stray’. When Ensign did this with the gal, they only hurt two families. When our elected are doing the same to us, as it were, they are hurting millions. Do they leave? Are they held accountable? NO, business as usual. I have a feeling if the truth be known, gobs upon gobs are doing the same thing in dc and haven’t got caught yet.
    L

  32. #32
    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, txvet2 said:
    Democrats have the emotional maturity of a 14-year-old, so they see the same flaws as a resume enhancement – like the first guy in the class to actually get to feel a girl’s “bosom”.

    Drew Carey Democrats: “Still counts!” (clinking of beer bottles all around)

  33. #33
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, granite said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, letget said:

    An affair is wrong IMO.

    Without question.

  34. #34
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pm, sbw999 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:
    That’s all well and good, but how come Democrats never do this? Step down…resign…etc.

    Mr. Frank? Mr. Dodd? Mr. Rangel? Blago? etc?

    I guess when it comes to ethics, it only applies to Republicans.

    We conservatives have morals and ethics, and when we stray we should expect to get hammered. My “wake-the-hell-up” moment occurred after Bill Clinton was caught leaving his DNA on an intern. I took for granted that the call for resignation and impeachment would be universal. I was truly shocked when I saw Dems circling the wagons, and protecting Clinton just to keep power. That was when I realized that Dems were morally bankrupt scumbags who would sell out their own mothers to keep power.

    Thus, I expect a Repub’s head to roll, when he/she is caught disgracing themselves and the Party. I can look at myself in the mirror. With all their duplicity and double standards, Dems should not be able to, but they still can. That’s more illustration of what empty shells of human beings dems are. Ensign is a disgrace who has betrayed the principles of the Repub party, and his constituents. We, as conservatives, hold ourselves to a higher standard than gutter worthy democrats, and thats how it should always be.

  35. #35
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:15 pm, granite said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pm, sbw999 said:

    That was when I realized that Dems were morally bankrupt scumbags who would sell out their own mothers to keep power.

    Another example of irreconcilably, diametrically opposite worldviews.

  36. #36
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Dems have no morals, as far as sex goes.

    Pardon me? Vitter, Gingrich, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, now John Ensign… How’s that glass house?

  37. #37
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    We, as conservatives, hold ourselves to a higher standard than gutter worthy democrats, and thats how it should always be.

    Hooah.

  38. #38
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, flmom said:

    I can look at myself in the mirror. With all their duplicity and double standards, Dems should not be able to, but they still can.

    The question is do they see a reflection?

  39. #39
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I took for granted that the call for resignation and impeachment would be universal.

    Democrats didn’t save Clinton. Public opinion did.

  40. #40
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:23 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Pardon me? Vitter, Gingrich, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, now John Ensign… How’s that glass house?

    All these men have paid, or will pay, a price for their transgressions. What price has Barney Frank or Gary Studds paid?

  41. #41
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, spaceycakes said:

    good riddance to bad rubbish

  42. #42
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    …but I would never judge a man or woman who succumbed to desires we are born with.

    RSS, this sounds like a medieval indulgence; apologizing in advance for any actions you take. Is something brewing in the White House? Is The B.O. doing something untoward? Hmmm! If so, he doesn’t have to worry about getting her pregnant. Since he considers children to be burdens, he’ll just have her get an abortion in one of his state-run, murder-on-demand clinics. Of course, there will be an 8 1/2 month wait. Too bad Tiller isn’t around to perform the execution.

    By the way, the entire point of marriage is that you take a vow that’s supposed to be a reminder to curb the desires.

  43. #43
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:30 pm, sonofdy said:

    All these men have paid, or will pay, a price for their transgressions. What price has Barney Frank or Gary Studds paid?

    I believe they got promoted.

    Ensign did the right thing. Wiether he can save the rest of his political life??? we will see.

  44. #44
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:34 pm, sbw999 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Democrats didn’t save Clinton. Public opinion did.

    That’s BS to this extent>>> Had voting liberals made it clear to dem pols that they were disgusted by Clinton’s disgraceful conduct, then the pols may have followed suit and ousted that waitress chaser. But dem pols, and their liberal consituents are all amoral, sacrificing anything to keep power; thus the pols knew they would be of the same exact mind as their lowlife voters.

  45. #45
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Pardon me? Vitter, Gingrich, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, now John Ensign… How’s that glass house?

    All these men have paid, or will pay, a price for their transgressions. What price has Barney Frank or Gary Studds paid?

    Um, David Vitter (who got one scant mention in this blog when his decades of employing prostitutes were confirmed) is as strong as ever, and going by opinion polls is a shoe-in for reelection next year. Newt is somehow as influential as ever, despite blowing it in Clinton’s impeachment and having been away from elected politics for a decade.

  46. #46
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, flmom said:

    Democrats didn’t save Clinton. Public opinion did.

    Er no, I believe it was George Soros and Moveon.org.

  47. #47
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    That’s BS to this extent>>> Had voting liberals made it clear to dem pols that they were disgusted by Clinton’s disgraceful conduct, then the pols may have followed suit and ousted that waitress chaser. But dem pols, and their liberal consituents are all amoral, sacrificing anything to keep power; thus the pols knew they would be of the same exact mind as their lowlife voters.

    “Their” voters? Going by opinion polls, a great number of your voters opposed the impeachment too.

  48. #48
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, rightisright said:

    “but I would never judge a man or woman who succumbed to desires we are born with.”

    Typical liberal response, making it an excuse for poor moral behavior, rather than holding to one’s marital commitment.

  49. #49
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, right_on said:

    Democrats didn’t save Clinton. Public opinion did.

    Uh…no. The elected Democrats failed to hold BJ to the rule of law or to a higher, Presidential moral standard. They continue to practice “performance without personal responsibility,” to this day.

    There is no double standard at play. In order to have standards, one must believe in the rule of law, equality, personal responsibility, and state those beliefs, clearly.

    In general, the established Democrat politician has no standards, nor will he, she, or it EVER state any. Doing so would expose them to the same set of rules they expect others to live by, and that is something they intrinsically, and instinctively cannot do. It would be too devastating to their fragile egos, and jeopardize their “elite” status.

    As far as Nevada John goes, he’ll never rise above the rank of Ensign, now. He becomes insignificant, and forgettable…at least until the Democrats pull his name out during the next Democrat scandal, screaming, “Hypocrite!”

  50. #50
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm, sbw999 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I don’t recall their being a great many conservatives who thought he should stay in office. Certainly conservative pols wanted him out by a vast majority. What are you referring to?? But I do recall the “it’s just sex” mantra being repeated over and over again by dem voters, their wizards in the msm media and on late night TV, as well as many a dem pol. So please, stop revising history. The point is, had that happened to a repub president, I am 100% certain that the majority of repubs would have called for his impeachment or resignation.

  51. #51
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, sbw999 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, right_on said:

    In general, the established Democrat politician has no standards, nor will he, she, or it EVER state any. Doing so would expose them to the same set of rules they expect others to live by, and that is something they intrinsically, and instinctively cannot do. It would be too devastating to their fragile egos, and jeopardize their “elite” status.

    Hear, hear!

  52. #52
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, bjc said:

    *Good indeed; You can’t lead on conservative principles when you’re found to be pokin’ the hired help; Let the Dems continue to own the dark side of the double-standard, as it will help in 2010 and 2012 if the GOP can ever get their act together.

  53. #53
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    “but I would never judge a man or woman who succumbed to desires we are born with.”

    Typical liberal response, making it an excuse for poor moral behavior, rather than holding to one’s marital commitment.

    Not much for “judge not lest you be judged,” I guess? I’m not making excuses, we all know Ensign messed up royally and will pay for it when he meets his maker.

  54. #54
    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm, rightisright said:

    Democrats didn’t save Clinton. Public opinion did.

    that’s BS…it was spineless “go along to get along” Senate Majority Leader that didn’t have the guts to follow through…another squishy G.O.P. ‘Grand Old Pals’…Lott was his name.

  55. #55
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I don’t recall their being a great many conservatives who thought he should stay in office. Certainly conservative pols wanted him out by a vast majority. What are you referring to??

    This. Everyone knew the impeachment was about perjury, and still no one outside the Rushosphere gave a crap. The public punished the GOP in ’98, Newt lost his job, and the rest is history.

  56. #56
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, Ragspierre said:

    “Their” voters? Going by opinion polls, a great number of your voters opposed the impeachment too.

    Al Capone was very popular in Chicago.

    Dimocrats looked the other way in the face of perjury for reasons of maintaining power, not because they were responding to public opinion.

    Contrast the thugocrats in the Clinton era with the Republicans during Watergate.

    You cover the corruption of your statist leaders because you are just that corrupt. Period.

  57. #57
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Everyone knew the impeachment was about perjury

    A funny lie.

    Caville and the other spinmeisters were turning themselves inside out to shape the image that it was all about “private” conduct, and that Ken Starr was a sexually repressed religious nut.

    People here lived this, fool.

    Go peddle your BS somewhere else.

  58. #58
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm, sbw999 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    I don’t recall their being a great many conservatives who thought he should stay in office. Certainly conservative pols wanted him out by a vast majority. What are you referring to??
    This. Everyone knew the impeachment was about perjury, and still no one outside the Rushosphere gave a crap. The public punished the GOP in ‘98, Newt lost his job, and the rest is history.

    Ive looked at most of those polls. Seems when the poll result was taken by party affiliation, Repubs (55-60%) thought billy C should be impeached. Not sure how much the repubs were punished since we took over the WH right after Clinton. In any event the facts dont back up the reality that Repub pols and the vast majority of the conservatives wanted that scumbag out of office. Even the dems who kept saying “its just sex”, just ignored his purjury and subornation of perjury as if it never occurred. Power over principles and everything else. That is the dem mantra.

  59. #59
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm, right_on said:

    and still no one outside the Rushosphere gave a crap.

    Heh. Then, as now, the average entitlement lemming is about as educated on current politics as is an aborted fetus. You can’t have an opinion when you know nothing about the subject. All they needed to hear was, “It’s all about sex…it should be a private matter”…etc., etc., and anything factual would just tend to glaze their eyes over, and elicit a “Huh?”

    An the “Rushosphere”? Does that mean, since you demean Limbaugh, not only didn’t you listen to him, but you were one of those people who “didn’t give a cr*p?”

    That kind of makes you sound like a “hater” to boot!

  60. #60
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Heh. Then, as now, the average entitlement lemming is about as educated on current politics as is an aborted fetus. You can’t have an opinion when you know nothing about the subject. All they needed to hear was, “It’s all about sex…it should be a private matter”…etc., etc., and anything factual would just tend to glaze their eyes over, and elicit a “Huh?”

    How convenient that any time the public (overwhelmingly) disagrees with you, it’s because their uninformed idiots. But when they (temporarily) support Republican wars, it is because we have a great educated republic.

  61. #61
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    sorry, they’re uninformed idiots

  62. #62
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Ragspierre said:

    You can still see the effectiveness of the Carville/Clinton lie-fest echoing all over the blogosphere.

    “The Rethuglicans tried to impeach the greatest president in history because of a BJ”.

    Our culture is impacted by the lies told in that era. Kids now report that oral sex isn’t sex.

    Reality bites.

  63. #63
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, Ragspierre said:

    “Which would be your preference: for the Senate to remove Clinton from office, for the Senate to censure or officially reprimand Clinton, or for the Senate to drop the whole matter?”

    Remove from office 29%

    Censure Clinton 39

    Drop the matter 32

    No opinion 1

    Seems like a total of 70% wanted THE LYIN’ KING to face some consequences of his corruption. Pretty overwhelming

  64. #64
    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, IndyRich said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    The public punished the GOP in ‘98

    Care to explain to me HOW “The public punished the GOP in (NOVEMBER) ’98″, for an impeachment happened in DECEMBER 1998??

    Kinda’ putting the cart in front of the horse, aren’t you?? You are stretching quite a bit with your history revisions, aren’t you?

    Republicans still had a majority in the House after the 1998 (223-211 – lost 5)AND 2000 elections (221-212 – lost 1).

    Republicans held a 55-45 majority in the senate in 1998 (lost no seats) and lost 5 seats in 2000 for a 50-50 split. In 2002, they eeked a 51-49 majority back.

    So….how was the GOP punished again?!?

  65. #65
    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, granite said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    By the way, the entire point of marriage is that you take a vow that’s supposed to be a reminder to curb the desires.

    Exactly.

    But, TMT, the vow, whether stated aloud, or taken silently; is way beyond just before the spouse or the witnesses…it is before God.

    And there’s where the difference in worldview pops up.

  66. #66
    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, Ragspierre said:

    RSB really provides an excellent object lesson in the difference between conservative and statist thought.

    To a statist, right and wrong are what you can get away with. That is determined by polling. If it threatens power, it is useless. If it polls badly, you reshape the issues with any lie you can concoct.

    To conservatives, right and wrong are internal concepts that govern what we do and how we do it. The approval of a million people would not change what we know to be right or wrong.

  67. #67
    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, granite said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Excellent; well said.

    And, I just have to say yet again:

    Illustrative of the irreconcilable difference in worldviews.

  68. #68
    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, Durangodarlin said:

    As despicable as the behavior is, he should not have resigned his seat on the committee, and he certainly mustn’t resign his Senate seat. A resignation is exactly what the Democrats want. This is how they will get their filibuster-proof majority. It is time to stop acquiescing! Senators, behave yourselves. Representatives, behave yourselves.

  69. #69
    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Having an affair is bad. Having an affair with a campaign aide is really bad. Having an affair with an aide who is married to Senate staffer is crazy stupid.

    Mark McKinnon

    Sorry, folks. I agree. When a guy screws the pooch (nod to my Navy brethren) like this, he is displaying something deeeeeeply pathological.

  70. #70
    On June 17th, 2009 at 5:55 pm, MtsEdge said:

    By the way, the entire point of marriage is that you take a vow that’s supposed to be a reminder to curb the desires.

    As the saying goes, if his wife (or the staffer’s husband) can’t trust him, why should we?

    Our culture is impacted by the lies told in that era.

    Rags, well said. I think the sewage that was displayed in the news every night regarding this disgrace is directly responsible for untold reverberations in our society. Just look @ all the so-called “family” TV programs that celebrate all kinds of sex, and the TV commercials @ dinner time talking about the latest sexual malfunction or disease. As if we really need to have this type of thing in our living rooms. Truly sickening.

  71. #71
    On June 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm, Khyris said:

    Ensign has a 93.97 lifetime ACU rating.

    Sorry, but there is no way this turn of events is “Good” for us.

    Dammit Ensign, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!

  72. #72
    On June 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    I think the reason that Republican scandals are bigger news is simply that we actually have standards. When prominent Republicans live below those standards, we bash them.

    Democrats do not feel compelled to address moral shortcomings because they don’t see them as such.

    They hold us to a higher standard than they hold themselves.

  73. #73
    On June 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    All these men have paid, or will pay, a price for their transgressions. What price has Barney Frank or Gary Studds paid?

    Let’s see…how about Blago? He got a TV/Radio show, and his wife also got a reality TV show. How wonderful. The MSM libtards put them up on a pedestal.

    That’s their reward.

    Speaking of Foley, didn’t his DEMOCRAT replacement who ran on family values just get caught cheating on his wife? Yes, why yes, he did! Add that to list list.

  74. #74
    On June 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pm, greenLibertarian said:

    I think we should salute Ensign for admitting the act and resigning the post. I don’t think he should leave the Senate.

    If we demand ‘perfection’ in our friends, allies, leaders, .., we won’t have any.

    We cannot afford to lose mostly good leaders on our side when Dems keep their mostly bad ones.

  75. #75
    On June 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I’ll take 100 Ensigns over 1 Pelosi any day.

  76. #76
    On June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm, Khyris said:

    I’ll take a bet on 1 Ensign over 100 Pelosis any day … unless the question is whether they sleep around. No way the Phantom of Folsom is getting any… even her constituents aren’t THAT perverse.

  77. #77
    On June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm, greenLibertarian said:

    Hmm, I hate to say it, but to quote Rock Hudson in an old movie, I find Naughty Nancy strangely attractive. Of course I detest her politically, morally, …

  78. #78
    On June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, Khyris said:

    Please report to your nearest optometrist ASAP! lol

  79. #79
    On June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm, greenLibertarian said:

    I hear ya, God help me!

  80. #80
    On June 17th, 2009 at 8:55 pm, sbw999 said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm, greenLibertarian said:
    I find Naughty Nancy strangely attractive.

    Been awhile, huh?

    On this topic I received this e-mail the other day:

    Virus warning!!! If you receive an e-mail that says “nude pictures of Sarah Palin”, don’t open it! It may contain a virus.

    If you receive an e-mail that says “nude pictures of Nancy Pelosi”, don’t open it! It may contain nude pictures of Nancy Pelosi.

    Sorry…Had to. :o )

  81. #81
    On June 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I think we should let the people of Nevada decide if they want to re-elect this philandering jerk.

    I am not sure an act of infidelity disqualifies him from public office but the fact that he only admitted the issue when it became necessary and was exploring a possible presidential bid in Iowa recently make me wonder about his heartfelt remorse.

    We need a special club for all these Republicans who have betrayed their spouses while vigorously playing the “family values” card to get re-elected. Newt certainly won’t be getting lonely any time soon…

    Four words: Power corrupts. Term Limits!

  82. #82
    On June 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm, right_on said:

    Having an affair is bad. Having an affair with a campaign aide is really bad. Having an affair with an aide who is married to Senate staffer is crazy stupid.

    Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco had an affair with his campaign manager, Alex Tourk’s wife in 2006. Tourk was previously Newsom’s Chief of Staff. The woman, Ruby Rippey-Tourk was was the mayor’s appointments secretary from the start of his administration in 2004 until the spring of 2006. The affair occurred while Newsom was in the process of divorcing his wife, Kimberly Guilfoyle, now of Fox News.

    Newsom was re-elected in 2007 with 72 percent of the vote.

    My point? Sometimes it matters who trysts up, and who doesn’t. Clearly it didn’t effect the Democrat’s career. The only thing it cost him, as far as the public knows, was his friendship with his best friend, Alex.

  83. #83
    On June 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Sort of like the old joke:

    “My best friend run off with my wife. ‘Course, he weren’t my best friend ’til he run off with ma wife!”

    Democrats/Leftists couldn’t care less about marriage and vows and such unless it is between a same-sex couple. Morals just don’t matter to leftists. To them it is simply soooo 19th century…

  84. #84
    On June 18th, 2009 at 4:56 am, love2rumba said:

    …We cannot afford to lose mostly good leaders on our side when Dems keep their mostly bad ones.

    Bingo.

  85. #85
    On June 18th, 2009 at 7:20 am, les said:

    On June 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm, WarEagle82 said:
    Democrats/Leftists couldn’t care less about marriage and vows and such unless it is between a same-sex couple. Morals just don’t matter to leftists.

    LOL, what a ridiculous comment to make when the topic of the discussion is a Republican sleeping around on his wife. I guess “vows and such” and “morals” just don’t matter to conservative Promise Keeper types as well. Man do you even read the dribble you post before submitting it?

  86. #86
    On June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am, WarEagle82 said:

    les, please wipe your chin lest the drool fry your keyboard. No, I take that back. Just keep the drool flowing and relieve us of you nonsense.

    The fact is a Dem/Leftist who do this regularly skate through it. Only conservatives are concerned with morals and only conservatives take their own to task.

    Clinton debased a young woman in the Oval Office and then lied and lied and lied and even engaged in perjury while on the witness stand. At least Ensign recognized he did something wrong.

    Dems/leftists lack the moral fiber to know or care when they behave like animals with other people’s daughters.

  87. #87
    On June 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am, granite said:

    On June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am, WarEagle82 said:

    …leftists lack the moral….

    WE82:

    Correct.
    That’s all that need be said.

    There’s that old opposite-worldview thing rearing its ugly head again….

  88. #88
    On June 18th, 2009 at 10:11 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Opposite worldview? No, I suspect it was the usual drug or alcohol induced stupor on the part of les…

    On June 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am, granite said:

    There’s that old opposite-worldview thing rearing its ugly head again….

  89. #89
    On June 18th, 2009 at 10:56 am, les said:

    On June 18th, 2009 at 10:11 am, WarEagle82 said:
    No, I suspect it was the usual drug or alcohol induced stupor on the part of les…

    WE2, right, I’m a liberal therefore in your mind I must use drugs, drink to a stupor and probably don’t work. Do you stereotype everyone with such broad strokes? As long as we’re playing this guessing game, I bet you’re retired, with minimal education, don’t get along with your kids and neighbors, and sit around all day in your underware watching tv and making stupid comments on this website. I bet you a grand I’m closer to profiling you than you are to me. At least I know I got that last one right.

    Do you believe that Ensign cared that he behaved like an animal with someone’s daughter/wife. Or did he come clean because he was about to get caught. And by the way, do you equate all sexual acts with animals. My pity to poor Mrs. WE2.

  90. #90
    On June 18th, 2009 at 11:35 am, zeroangel said:

    les:

    The perception that WE82 is getting at is that Democrats tend to circle the wagons around their philanderers while Republicans rebuke them.

    In general, I think this assessment is not incorrect. I also think it has a great deal to do with the platforms either party tends to stand on. That is to say, it’s kind of hard to tout the “family values” line and pork someone other than your spouse (or worse someone else’s spouse). For this reason, it’s really kind of hard for Republicans to “circle the wagons” and not be hypocritical. I really think some reflection is needed in this area. Things are not always black and white, after all.

    Personally, I really can understand plain old vanilla adultery (especially if there are serious marital issues), however, interns, staffers, and other people’s wives gets dicey whether you tout family values or not.

    On the other hand, I really have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that Barney Frank is still in office. I don’t have a problem with gays, and I could care less about prostitution, (putting aside the fact that it is illegal) however, anyway you slice it, this:

    Frank confirmed that he paid Gobie for sex, hired him with personal funds as an aide and wrote letters on congressional stationery on his behalf to Virginia probation officials,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank#House_Ethics_Committee_action

    …is just plain wrong.

    Finally, WRT WE82 himself, he’s an idiot, don’t bother.

  91. #91
    On June 18th, 2009 at 11:46 am, WarEagle82 said:

    ZeroIntelligence,

    I suspect you are the envy of each and every one of your support groups.

    les,

    You are an incomprehensible dolt. If it isn’t due to drugs or alcohol then you have obviously suffered severe head trauma. Remember to put your helmet on before you go roller skating. Either that or your wife keeps smacking you upside your head being a moron.

    I work a full time job, run a part-time business, make 6 figures, don’t have a TV connected to cable or an antenna, and am this close to having a restraining order filed against your wife because she won’t quit calling me.

    Have a good day you illiterate, ignorant putz.

  92. #92
    On June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am, zeroangel said:

    WE82:

    LOL! Oh this is going to make my morning.

    A whole six figures huh? These days that amounts to middle class, yay! Only two jobs to pull that off too.

    You are about as successful as everyone else with 2 cars and 2.5 kids! I suspect you might even have an average IQ and some kind of education beyond High School.

    You are still an idiot.

  93. #93
    On June 18th, 2009 at 11:56 am, WarEagle82 said:

    ZeroIntelligence,

    Please tell your wife to stop calling me too.

    I bet you have a three digit IQ if you count the three numbers to the right of the decimal place.

    If a six figure income is middle class then so be it. I am not an elitist arrogant atheist like you.

    And let me know when you get that seventh figure on your income.

  94. #94
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, zeroangel said:

    WE82:

    Haha! Wife jokes? Isn’t that one step above Mom jokes? What is this, 8th grade? Oh right, it’s you.

    As far as you are concerned, I am a janitor that works at MIT. My hobbies involve solving complex math equations professors leave on their chalkboards when no one is looking. I make minimum wage.

    I don’t need to satisfy any insecurities I might have by bragging about my income level to perfect strangers on the internet. I believe nonsense like that makes YOU the arrogant elitist.

  95. #95
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    ZeroIntelligence,

    Glad to see you have seen “Good Will Hunting.” But I suspect that in your case the college is upset with you for drawing those “special pictures” that got you sent to your first support group. The bathrooms you “decorate” must be a wonderful cross between one of those bathrooms off of Exit 8 on the NJ Turnpike and what the Louvre might look like if it had been furnished with Pee Wee Herman original artwork.

    Since the guy asked I answered. Had I been bragging I would have divulged more specific information than I did but I am not that concerned about what he or you thinks since it is painfully obvious that neither of you are capable of much thought.

    Now do us all a favor and go back to accosting small woodland creatures and leave the forum to people not on the sex crimes registry.

  96. #96
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, zeroangel said:

    WE82:

    You really are that stupid aren’t you?

    He didn’t ask you anything. You volunteered because he obviously struck a nerve.

    See, when someone tells me I can’t solve math equations or I “accost woodland creatures,” there’s no point is saying, “No I don’t, I happen to [fill in blanks].” It’s just plain stupid and doesn’t need a response.

    However, for some reason, you felt it necessary to tell us all how you are not destitute. Wonder why that is? Do you think anyone really believes you are?

  97. #97
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    ZeroIntelligence,

    No nerve struck here. The guy offered a wager and I responded. Gee, that sort of sounds like an interrogatory statement to me. Of course, you are the genius so what could I know.

    But, I do agree that you are “plain stupid” and “don’t need a response” but it is just so easy and so much fun to tweak you on that atheism thing. Talk about striking a nerve…

  98. #98
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, zeroangel said:

    WE82:

    It wasn’t a wager either you moron and you know that. He was mocking your stereotypes and clearly you went for it. So, you are not a stereotype, but he is? Brilliant.

    You want to continue the atheism thing feel free to post another item in this thread:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/12/david-letterman-perv/

    …we can pick off where we left off.

    This thread is about Ensign resigning and, apparently, your pathology. Chap you there?

  99. #99
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    ZeroIntelligence,

    Got to call on Chappy for assistance? Figures. Evidently you are not half the man you used to be. Ironically, you may never have been half the man you used to be…

    Golly, I am surprised you even know the topic of any given thread.

    And I have little interest in tweaking you on the “atheism has murdered 100 million or more in the last century.” Frankly, it is simply too easy to do and I don’t want to end up paying for your stroke recovery after Obama nationalizes health care so I’ll take a pass.

    I suspect the furry little woodland creatures are awaiting your return. Off you go like a good little support group reject…

  100. #100
    On June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, zeroangel said:

    WE82:

    We both know Chappy would enjoy this trainwreck as well, with or without his participation. We are you still responding?

    But, I do agree that you are “plain stupid” and “don’t need a response”

    I posted in the other thread a response to your idiocy concerning atheism. See you there.

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