Obamacare on the rocks?; Plus: All Barack Channel refuses diverse viewpoint
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With delay comes opportunity…opportunity to continue making your voices heard. The Senate Finance Committee postpones mark-up on Obamacare until after the July 4 recess:
The Senate Finance Committee is delaying its first public drafting session on major health care legislation until after the July Fourth recess, a lengthy setback but one that even Democrats say is critically needed to let them work on reducing the costs of the bill.
The Finance Committee’s bill is believed to have the best chance of bipartisan support. The drafting session had been scheduled for Tuesday. But new cost estimates by the Congressional Budget Office on health care proposals came in much more expensive than expected, emboldening critics and alarming Democrats.
A spokesman for the Finance Committee chairman, Senator Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana, said the goal was to get the best bill.
“Senator Baucus wants to ensure the committee gets the mark right and will take the time to do exactly that,” the spokesman, Scott Mulhauser, said. “While it’s simply too early to say when the mark-up process will begin, the committee will continue to work hard over the next week and a half to produce a bill that is fully paid for and can pass the Senate. Senator Baucus will continue to work with members on both sides of the aisle and remains confident we’ll have a budget-neutral bill that can pass the Senate.”
The Senate health committee pressed ahead with its drafting session today despite the high cost projections, prompting harsh criticism from Republicans.
More from Ed Morrissey on the signs of retreat.
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Today’s Obamacare bogus statistic of the day via Chris Moody at Cato:
Mike Tanner points out that the Congressional Budget Office released its initial scoring of the health care bill, concluding that it would result in roughly 23 million people losing the insurance they currently have.
This was only moments after Obama said no one would lose their insurance. Oops!
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So much for welcoming “diverse” viewpoints. From Greg Mueller at CRC:
ABC is refusing paid ads for its health care program at the White House. Thus they’re refusing even a paid-for alternative viewpoint.
We requested the rates to buy a 60 second network spot immediately preceding the broadcast of the Town Hall meeting. We would have produced a spot specifically for this program.
Here is statement from Rick Scott, chairman of Conservatives for Patients Rights.
“It is unfortunate – and unusual – that ABC is refusing to accept paid advertising that would present an alternative viewpoint for the White House health care event. Health care is an issue that touches every American and all potential pieces of legislation have carried a pricetag in excess of $1 trillion of taxpayers’ money. The American people deserve a healthy, robust debate on this issue and ABC’s decision – as of now – to exclude even paid advertisements that present an alternative view does a disservice to the public. Our organization is more than willing to purchase ad time on ABC to present an alternative viewpoint and our hope is that ABC will reconsider having such viewpoints be part of this crucial debate for the American people. We were surprised to hear that paid advertisements would not be accepted when we inquired and we would certainly be open to purchasing time if ABC would reconsider.”
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A fellow follower of MM passed this along to me from Dubai.
He would love to be a poster, as would several others I have corresponded with, and looks forward to an open registration here.
a lengthy setback but one that even Democrats say is critically needed to let them work on reducing the costs of the bill.
Hmmm I could’ve swore I used the Quote button.
Odumbo was only off by 23 million. How many jobs did he save?–As Joe Biden said–Odumbo just guesses at it. God save us all,
weh-heh-hell…then they won’t mind when we boycott the other advertisers that they deem acceptable. Hmm?
All pretense is gone. If a for-profit, private company won’t accept money you know their agenda is political.
when do you all think the paranoia will set in?
Oh, as we speak…
Remember, OPERATION OVER-REACH is working better than expected.
Did you guys catch BIG BRO whining about Fox in a televised interview? He cannot stand anyone who does not genuflect properly.
RE: #7 – what I mean is, Obama’s paranoia. After all, most facist dictators and control freaks become extremely paranoid and “He Who Kills Flies” will be no different.
Looks like I’ll have to give up the only ABC show I watch, “The Bachelorette”. I’m not going to sugarcoat it: I’m mad about this!!
good point Rags. Me thinks he’s a walking time bomb. He’d like to think he’s above human typical behavior, but really, not so much.
Who watches ABC anyway? Obama is just preaching to the choir with that altra liberal network.
Bingo! I don’t plan to watch that fiasco, but someone can fill us in on who they accept as sponsors. They will feel the pinch, I guarantee it.
I understand why they cannot accept this revenue. As a state run media outlet, they would be subject conflict of interest charges if they would accept such ads. One could even accuse them of accepting bribes. Perfectly logical on their behalf.
On ABC Good Morning, of all places, Diane Sawyer asked Christina Romer about the cost estimates of Obamacare and threw out the following (with a graphic!) – Medicare in the first year was projected by the government to cost $12 billion dollars and ended up costing $103 billion dollars. Christina Romer’s response was nothing short of unintelligible. I guess Diane was playing at being a reporter this morning.
ECS
Oh give them a break.
ABC and the other networks know that lists are being drawn up, lists keeping track of those who don’t support our dear leaders in these troubled times.
They don’t want to be shot down the line. That’s all.
I am glad that ABC doesn’t have anything worth watching in their line up, because it makes it easier for me to boycott them. This whole thing is really messed up. Why don’t they get down on their knees and worship The One, and get it over with?
Bingo! Dexter Alarius, get the gold star.
This is the most telling statement that proves the point in Bernard Goldberg’s book.
It has nothing to do with news. It has to do with ABC’s agenda.
And the he11 with principle. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Who cares what is right as long as your a$$ is covered. Seems the mantra of the current media monkeys.
Dexter Alarius
Your summation of ABC – Priceless!
I guess these media dolts still don’t get the fact.. that we want the facts… and if there were any in the MSM that had the guts to be a ‘reporter’ they’d be seen as a hero at this point by many, if not most Americans.
Can you imagine if a reporter sandbagged Obama like Palin was sandbagged? We’d have to find a replacement for the Pulitzer and award to them. Maybe call it The Plumb-itzer.
Good grief. Can you imagine what it’s going to be like in the weeks leading up to Dear Leader’s birthday in August?!
Fear not. The Lord of the Flies will bail them out if money becomes an issue.
I’d like to see him get what he deserves for his birthday. A long prison term.
Meanwhile the media is all agog over Michelle’s green thumb!
I’ll believe he has a birthday in August after he shows me his birth certificate.
Film Ladd–speaking of ‘lists’…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/16/AR2009061601923_pf.html
Hey, if they take away the teleprompter, then we do not need any ad time
The problem with the government getting involved with health care is that none of the elected officials no nothing about it.
These people proposing and voting have never dealt with the issues, they don’t know what works, what doesn’t, or how it works. . . they only know how to get elected.
health care, and the insurance that finances it is a very delicate thing.
First you already have the most regulated industry in the world in insurance. . . each state makes its own rules that each insurance company must comply with.
Second, you have to have a contract that doctors are willing to accept payment at a certain rate for individuals that are on the policy.
Third you then have to structure a benefits package and rates that are acceptable to get clients and customers to pay premiums.
Finally, you have to determine underwriting rules so that you don’t make your company bankrupt by charging 200 dollars a month to someone who ALREADY takes 2000 dollars a month in benefits.
After all that is done, you still need to pay your employees to be happy and stay with the company to make sure that there is no fraud and that everything runs smoothly.
The only thing that the government does is mandate reimbursement rates for Medicare to doctors, and sets the amount that they take from your SS check for part B and how much to tax everyone else to pay for it. Nothing that the government does has anything to do with how to effectively run a medical care system. . . which is why they can’t even run their portion effectively.
BIG BRO is a highly flawed tangle of some really serious human stuff.
I don’t want to descend into psycho-babble, but…damn. Just consider the “father-yearning” thing this guy has, as revealed in his book. Then look at what his father was. Scary, by itself.
Daddy Obama was a serial bigamist, alcoholic, woman abusing, Marxist failure who appears himself to have been a narcissist. He maimed himself before finally killing himself in drunken driving incidents.
THE ONE has feet of clay. Once the ball starts rolling, I think he may actually fold.
I much prefer seeing the green thumbs of the Iranian protesters. A bit more meaningful story, wouldn’t you say?
Rogue–
Why do I suddenly feel like reading from the ‘Book of Armaments’?
“…and the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies…”
PEOPLE!
PEOPLE!
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
(spoken in my best Phil Hartman/Charlton Heston)
Just another one of those 2-3 week periods of avoiding any MSM unless of course I want to lose my appetite. It will be disgusting.
The Obama oligarchy refuses to allow the media in their back pocket to allow any opposing viewpoint, and ABC is simply complying.
This is where radio is headed…
Obama blamed everybody for the financial crisis except the ones who put the ball in motion…congress. It would be hypocritical, I guess, to lay blame on those to initiated the mortgage, banking, and financial meltdown, when he is now using some of those same self-righteous pr*cks to create “new” rules, and (cough, cough) standards to insure people (outside the Democrat Party) tow the line, and are accountable.
Yeah, I bought into it…He would never lie to the American people…much.
How much will us tax-payers be soaked for the party, I wonder? I’m already getting sick.
If ABC refuses paid avertising, can’t their shareholders sue them? They exist to make a profit, and their executives are responsible for doing so. Oh, I forgot, they never studied business, they’re probably all lawyers.
“Obamacare” is an out-and-out lie. It’s nothing short of wealth redistribution.
Its taking money, in the form of taxes on health care bennies, from the white and the blue collars and giving it, in the form of nationalized “health care”, to the sandal wearers in moo-moos and sweat pants who seldom leave the house, except to step out onto the front porch to check the mailbox for the welfare check then back in to rest in the broken-down chair before heading to the fridge and, for certain, haven’t seen a form 1040 in so long that they couldn’t even tell you what it is, even if they could speak English.
On the rocks is where it belongs. Better yet, drop it next to the black boxes the French are looking for.
Yes, Obamacare should be squashed like a … fly?
They are going to spend our hard-earned money on a big, overblown bash for this b@st@rd. Get out the pitchforks…I’m ready.
The only ABC program I watch is LOST – and there’s only one season left which doesn’t start until next year.
Boy, I’m have a Rodney Dangerfield day here…
The first thing to do in order to reduce the cost to taxpayers of ObamaCare:
Remove any item from the bill not related to Medicine.
I am constantly amazed (yes, even now) how much cr@p gets added to bills that have nothing to do with the original concept.
Of course, some ObamaCare moneys must go to ACORN, so that the poor inner-city residents can be educated on their rights and benefits.
Maybe everyone should call their cable providers to see if we can swap – Pravda channel instead of ABC–
How long before this cancer takes over the ABC radio network (where talk radio lives) and conservatives are omitted completely?
Please please please, everyone sign this petition and send it to your email list…
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/8/an-open-letter-to-our-nations-leadership
They’re waiting for the ink to dry.
Since it seems we don’t get a choice anyway, I will give ABC the B.O.D. on there word that the whole thing will be balanced with opposing views. I’ll know it and believe it, if and when I see it. Screw them and the sponsors if they dont offer meaningful opposing views and debate.
Yes, I will watch carefully. And note the ads before, during and after.
Plus, it takes time to make paper look like it’s 47 years old, research the right dead physician whose signature you can forge, etc.
When the issue finally reaches a crescendo he will triumphantly whip it out and say he resisted releasing it on principle.
“The Question”
everyone knows about but is labeled “birther” for asking—
is finally lain out so well in laymans terms exploring all sides of the issues.
If you haven’t seen it yet, you should, no matter how you feel about this issue.
Bill Clinton?
Doesn’t Disney own ABC? A Disney boycott might get some attention if enough people participated. Canceled conventions, meetings, etc at the parks would hit the parent company’s bottom line. Also movies.
What is ABC’s response to the request for ad time?
Because ABC isn’t selling ad time to one group does not necessarily mean they are trying to avoid a diverse opinion. The ad time could have already been sold.
Ad time is a commodity and is bought and resold all the time. This is America remember? Find out who owns that Ad time slot and make an offer.
Very well, the group was told that paid advertising would not be accepted. We will see if that is the case.
Then again, there are the affiliates. Regardless of what National Ad time there is, there is always local Ad time available.
Or, instead of hearing one side of the story, we could also hear what ABC had to say. Again, what is ABC’s response to the request for ad time? There is no quoted response from an ABC source.
God love you! That was good…
Still at the top of your game I see Aloha!
And shoulders of a four year old girl. When the weight and responsibility of the office finally lands on him, and it will, he will be crushed. One must have inner strength and conviction to handle the office of POTUS and zero has neither.
Just out of curiosity: will you still get ObamaCare if you are beaten to a pulp by some of his New Black Panther Poll Guardians?
No, you will charged with a hate crime.
I’m pretty sure that ABC’s Charles Goebbels will be fair and impartial. Just give him a chance to spread Obama’s fascist propaganda on healthcare.
We are having a rally in front of the local ABC affiliate in Kansas City on Wednesday prior to the program. Info about time and location.
Fox News has become the 1000 pound gorilla on the Cable news with their balanced programming and talent pool.
I think there is a great opportunity for Murdoch to start a balanced Evening New program on Fox Broadcasting network.
Once people have an alternative voice on the FOX Broadcast dial, the already dwindling ABC / NBC / CBS news will meet the same fate as did CNN / MSNBC.
So ABC’s program on health care is originating from the White House? Really? When the MSM got real cozy with Obama during the campaign and we asked them to “get a room”, we didn’t expect it to be the Lincoln bedroom!
Call it the “Unfairness Doctrine”.
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B owing to
C rap
Brokaw just got a white house job.
If this does not raise the hair on our collective heads I do not know what will, this is frightning:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090614_the_american_empire_is_bankrupt/
ABC is shilling for Obama and has become nothing more than the propaganda arm of his Marxist regime. There must be a strong, concerted, effort to expose this network for what they are . . . and they certainly are not a “news” organization.
Big Brother from the Ministry of Truth says “doubleplusgood.”
Obama’s birthday is in August. Interesting…
August, renamed in honor of the first Roman Emperor, Augustus/Octavius, because his birthday was in the 8th month of the year.
Actually, they have new furniture and the best HD Big screen TV welfare money can buy. And you left out the beer and meth paraphanalia laying around and the 14 squalling babes that the Womon of The House popped out to increase her take from the welfare roles.
Awww, say it ain’t so!!! You know what the Dems need- a new super duper ad campaign with lots of generalized language without specifics and fearmongering tactics to make us feel the plight of the poor and uninsured?
Better yet, perhaps they can show what a great job they’ve done with Tricare and the Tribal healthcare system as well as medicare/medicaid. Oh, wait…
I’m sorry I need to revise that. The money that the Dems could use to throw at the Tribal/Tricare networks to make them run more “efficiently” they’ve already spent on illegals to make them a permanent voting block in the Dem party.
Maybe they should consult GM, who’s currently owned by the government, about how to get out of bankruptcy protection and produce a better ad campaign for starters.