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Wow…that has actually left me speechless. I know that is going on, but to see an example of the thuggery first hand is startling.
This woman is now in line for a position in the Obama cabinet. Rahm would LOVE her.
This union is one of the several that form the fascist collectivist corporations that BIG BRO is busily forming.
It is continuing, unabated.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124528373595925623.html#mod=rss_opinion_main
BIG BRO’s proposed regulation of the financial sector is a revolution…not an adjustment. It is designed to Europeanize American finance.
This galloping fascism HAS to be stopped, then REVERSED.
Seems like a nice gal.
Whaddaya say we give these goons the ability to see who votes for or against unionization in the workplace?
She looks BIG and MEAN.
Yes they are bullying. But I don’t understand what it is about that “bullying” that is being objected? Aren’t we mad at our politicians and are reacting in the same way? “We put you in office to represent us, you aren’t, we’re mad, we’re going to vote you out IF you don’t start support we the people!”
What this video shows is true. Unions helped put some politicians in office, the unions expect support for their issues and pay back for their support.
That’s the way it works. That is why elections are critically IMPORTANT! Why sitting out elections having some tantrum over various idealogical issues is a horrific strategy.
So why am I upset at this video? Why is this video making some case about the disgusting union influence? All this video demonstrates is how our system works.
The problem is not that unions do this sort of thing. Its that we conservatives haven’t and aren’t involved in the political process in a way that gives us the same kind of access and leverage.
That was an effective ad.
Trollbot: A Republican did that once.
The day the democrat socialists stand up to the union bullies will be the day I **** a gold brick.
Imagine that woman standing over you watching you sign the card for/against a union in your work place. Hmm, now how would you vote?
flmom
no.
I would vote no.
Sorry, I can’t get that excited about this. As jsmiddleton pointed out, we’re doing just about the same thing. It’s the behind-the-scenes bullying on card check, ACORN running the census, and other illegal/immoral/fattening leftist initiatives that get me worked up. In fact, I think we need to step up the bullying of our own so-called representatives to counteract this sort of mild threat.
Ma Barker writ large!
I think the point is that the Unions represent a very small factor, but are bullying none the less.
But after all, as long as she calls Babs Boxer “Senator” instead of “Ma’am,” everything will be alright, eh?
I’d vote against. I guarantee I can outrun that thing.
“I think we need to step up the bullying of our own so-called representatives to counteract this sort of mild threat.”
AMEN!
“but are bullying none the less.”
I understand they are bullying. So? Its how the system works. It is we on the right who have had our heads up our butts about the process. We’ve acted like once we vote, send our politicians off to where ever, its a done deal. They’ll do the job we elected them to do.
That is on us. The way it works is the way this video demonstrates. Shame on US for not being involved. Shame on US for thinking that we could vote and then disengage.
I am very happy we are in this current situation nationally, state wide and locally. Finally we have a chance of enough folks waking up to make changes in 2010 and 2012!
There is nothing wrong with this lady’s actions. It is an illustration of the the type of legislative process that our system has created. Like it or not, it is what it is and this video demonstrates it quite clearly.
the democrat special interest groups are no longer even winking and nodding that their money and support isn’t an outright bribe to accomplish quid pro quo legislation. the gay groups are threatening because they contributed, hence they deserve. the uaw gave and have already been paid off. the code pink morons are getting gitmo shut down. the lawyers are demanding that no healthcare plan eliminates their right to sue. the seiu is just standing in line for it’s payoff. what’s new.
Me too, but it’s a good illustration of how the Left are such wienies because they are so hungry to be in power that rather than win with ideas, they are in the thrall of the unions that got them where they are. Don Corleone would be proud.
They don’t want the support of “We the People”….. they want support of “We the Special Interest Group” at the expense of …EVERYONE ELSE.
The politicians are doing favors for votes so thay can keep themselves in office and reap the benefits of that office. They are self serving. Not serving the public as a whole.
It is no different than the head of the Armed Services Committee awarding a defense contract to some local company in return for campaign contributions.
And speaking of John Murtha…. is he in jail yet? …one can hope…
Why do I think I’ve seen this same female pushing a shopping cart through Wal Mart with the same posture she has over that podium?
Is her name Toni or Vinni by any chance?
They built her when meat was cheap.
She looks like she works real hard, doesn’t she? She sounds like a typical peice of crap thug who gets money the old fashioned way…. she beats up little kids for their lunch money. We need to take these punks out to the street and deal with them.
Is anyone in the room, besides myself, old enough to remember
Ma Kettle?
I think she looks like a Beulah to me. Goes shopping and has six packs of soda lined up around the shopping rim like ammo belts.
Its “in your face” extortion. Period. Nothing less. Less intimidating that the Capone Days in Chicago but extortion.
Those types receive no civility from me.I have a size 9 boot that fits their backsides.
These thugs can be Un Empowered in 2010 if America gets taxed hard enough and I expect that to happen.
spaceycakes…LOL
This kinda stuff is why I’m not cut out for politics. My verbatim response to her threat would be “bring it on b**tch.”
I just wouldn’t be able to remain dignified and take the high road with people like her.
Hangfire said:
Yes but she was a nice lady. I also remember Gooey Duck and Crowbar.
Hangfire:
Ma Kettle? Are you serious?
This behemoth has nothing on Marjorie Main
This brings back Saturday morning memories:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2496960768/nm0537685
I dunno, from that picture of Ma Kettle, I would say that Ma Kettle would be a mite insulted at your comparison.
Very well. Let the record show that I have retracted my previous comparison to Ma Kettle (Marjorie Main) since it is insensitive to her surviving family and wasn’t that good a match in the first place.
Neither will I compare her to Broderick Crawford in drag, still showing my age.
Now that image is funny, wrong, but FUNNY
For all the movie buffs:
Better still….
Fatty Arbuckle gone casual.
Thuggery?
Maybe. But, every distinct constituency feels the same way and says the same thing, and sometimes in more subtle terms.
We voted for you because you promised ‘x’, ‘y’, or ‘z’. If you do not deliver on ‘x’, ‘y’, or ‘z’ we will vote you out. Or, not vote for you the next time.
Characterizing the statements as thuggery is hyperbole.
I support unions that actualy act like unions were designed to. To protect workers against employer excesses. Unions these days are political entities and are corrupt as hell. I do not support what they call unions today.
Was it in the snack food section? LOL.
She can’t be for lifestyle reform, can she? Obama-mama wants no addictive ingredients in snack foods…healthcare reform that addresses obesity (she’s not fat…she has big bones)…smaller cars (you can see a lawsuit coming on this one-equal access for ‘full-figured‘ persons)…airline weight restrictions due to higher fuel costs (whadda ya mean I have to pay for ‘excess’ baggage?)…methane reductions (can you imagine?)
Do you think she would be viewed as a bully if she only weighed 100 lbs.? She’s a perfect messenger…any opposition to her message would be portrayed as an attack on:
women
the obese
unions
free speech
etc., etc.
Hangfire said:
God that image sent bile into my throat and then made me laugh so hard i choked.
Looking a bit closer – she resembles Divine in a twisted sort of way.
“They don’t want the support of “We the People”….. they want support of “We the Special Interest Group” at the expense of …EVERYONE ELSE.”
Sorry but again so? As a conservative I do not want my elected officials to assist or aid everyone’s agenda. I want them to support MINE. So if its MY agenda, given that its conservative, I’m not a thug but a union person who is doing the same thing IS a thug?
Again, I can’t support that kind of reasoning. NO, I do not agree with what this union representative wants. But what she is doing is the process folks. Its the way it works.
Ha! No need to ask “Where’s the beef?” Why it’s all right here!
Indeed. The Republicans became the sickening democrat-lite party it is today for no other reason than that we allowed them to.
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Unfortunately yes. I always felt sorry for Pa Kettle (Percy Kilbride)
Nice!
I can still see a use for trade unions in hazardous jobs (mining, seafaring, etc.) and building trades (machinists, carpenters, etc.)
What sticks in my throat is that, somewhere along the way, office workers at the state, city, and county levels were allowed to form bargaining units when their entire reason for being is to support the public which is the source of their income.
This especially goes for teachers!
I have been in a union before, and the taste is still in my mouth. And that taste is not a pleasant one.
I think it was in hardware, looking for a 10×10 tarp to wear as a lobster bib!
Here is Griff Jenkins from Fox News outside a ACORN party/meeting yesterday with the predictable results.
“for no other reason than that we allowed them to.”
Another very positive thing to be coming forth, bearing fruit if you will, from the current political scene is this: NEVER AGAIN! The gig is UP! As those of us who are waking up actually wake up the likelihood of us going back to sleep again is quite low.
This is just beyond unbelievable. They don’t want to take a 5% pay cut, but they’re OK with raising more taxes. It never stops…EVER. It won’t matter if “they got them into office”…because hopefully the people will wake up and take care of that themselves.
GET THE DEMOCRATS OUT OF SACRAMENTO!
Haven’t people learned yet?
Oh, that’s right…they always have the “rich” pay for everything for them. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Or better yet, whatever happened to taking unabated handouts without the SHAME? Freeloader!
Har! Plus, being on the public dole, she can expense the lobster!
Can you visualize this?
One dinner (16 lobsters, plus 18 bread refills), $1,345 and no tip…“What are you inferring? I was hungry! They ran out of lobster, and after I raised a snit about it, they had the audacity to ask me to leave…why would I want to leave a tip? I left the restaurant hungry and unsatisfied…”
I was involuntarily in that union for two years.
There isn’t enough hot water to wash away the filth of that union.
I will never wear purple again…
16 lobsters and 18 bread refills:$1345.00
That slack jawed and longing stare at the dessert counter: Pricey
You can thank John F. Kennedy for issuing that executive order.
We voted for you because you promised ‘x:Security for our citizens’, ‘y:a chance at prosperity for all’, or ‘z:defending the constitution’. If you do not deliver on ‘x’, ‘y’, or ‘z’ we will vote you out.
There’s a difference.
These idiots in the once great state of California aren’t going to be happy until there is no one left to tax except the folks who believe they are too darn poor to leave and the dolts in public office.
“Awnowd the Guv” was already in DC with his tin cup extended. Watch, the rest of us will be supporting the Calif. government’s largesse to illegals, ‘protecting’ the million-dollar views off shore and watching as a “State Economy Too Big to Fail” does just exactly that, dragging lots of others along with it.
Mr. Creosote has nothing on this pig!
Maître d’ Ah, good afternoon, sir; and how are we today?
Mr. Creosote Better.
Maître d’ Better?
Mr. Creosote Better get a bucket – I’m gonna throw up.
Creosote is then led to his table, and once seated starts vomiting, failing to hit the bucket he had requested a moment before. The floor quickly becomes covered in vomit, and so do the cleaning woman and the maître d’s trousers. He listens patiently while highlights of the evening’s menu are recited to him; after vomiting on the menu held open right in front of him by the maître d’, he orders them all served in a bucket with quail eggs on top, and for apéritifs he has six bottles of Château Latour 1945, a double jeroboam of champagne, and half a dozen crates of brown ale (half his usual allowance). He finishes the lot, vomiting profusely all over himself, his table, and the other diners throughout the duration (causing other diners to leave in disgust). Finally, after being persuaded by the smooth (and possibly vengeful) maître d’ to eat a “wafer-thin mint”, he explodes in a huge torrent of innards and partially digested food.
When the explosion clears, Creosote is still alive, but his chest cavity is now blasted open, revealing his spread ribs and still-beating heart. As he looks around, seemingly confused by what has just happened, the maître d’ calmly walks up to him and presents “the cheque, monsieur.”
Sweet deal: Civil Service protection AND union bargaining AND a compliant state legislature.
IF the people of California want to stand up to the Public Sector Unions and the tax and spend legislature they can IF they have the stones; a 28% turn out on tax initiatives and referendums does not impress. The weaklings and cowards have sold their futures for bread and circuses and now it time to pay the piper.
All over the country WE have to get louder and ruder saying NO to the social spending, political payoff and so gut government. I won’t say Starve the Beast as it is not mine but put it on a diet and use a broad ax on spending. SEIU thuggery can be matched and defeated with courage–if there is any left on the Left Coast.
PETA: protecting flys in the No Fly Zone–that should qualify them as terrorist
“There’s a difference.”
There is no difference. Is the subject matter, desired outcome different? One would hope. But the process is the same. Using the process does not make one a thug.
Whether you like the process or not is irrelevant. The process is what it is.
There is an old saying, “A person should never see how they make sausage or pass laws.”
I don’t agree with union politics in anyway. My disagreement does not then justify a charge of thuggery when this lady is doing nothing but using the process available to us all.
We on the right have to be careful of not doing when the left does in tossing around these charges and labels. The let is notorious for not separating process with content, ie Bush stole the election. WE are the grownups even when it seems like an easier path to label folks we disagree with as thugs. Doing so is beneath us.
Heck, this is a typical weekday lunch in Trenton! Unions and their control in NJ are no “small” things as commented earlier. Just look at my $9000 property tax bill for a very average house here. I attribute a large chunk of that to union control, especially in the schools.
I am no fan of unions, that said – there is nothing wrong with what this woman is doing. I would do the same thing…I’ll vote you in if you represent me, I’ll vote you out if you don’t. Maybe this is too simplistic, but I don’t thinks so.
If you threw a handful of corn at her, it would never hit the ground.
I guess I’m not shocked by the “we got you in, we’ll get you out” comment. That is part and parcel of electoral politics and the very notion of self-government. Heck, I’ve said as much myself when I’ve spoken to legislators. Of course, I’m the local precinct chair, and so I’m supposed to be political.
However, the appropriate response of the legislators should be to pass right-to-work legislation so that those public employees (and private employees) who disagree with the politics of the Union don’t have to support it through forcibly extracted dues.
LOL, when the video cuts to her, the first word in the voice-over is ‘bloated’.
On June 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, spaceycakes said:
If you threw a handful of corn at her, it would never hit the ground.
There is nothing wrong with this lady’s actions. It is an illustration of the the type of legislative process that our system has created. Like it or not, it is what it is and this video demonstrates it quite clearly.
There is a difference between lobbying elected officials and extortion. When I vote for a candidate, it is because I believe they are the best to represent the interests of the country, state or city as a whole and not just as my personal legislator.
What this woman is basically saying is that we got you in now pay up. These unions are not concerned with the country, they are not concerned about their members, they want their power and government money to expand it.
So SEIU thinks Democratic Rep Tweedle Dee will do better than Democratic Rep. Tweedle Dumb? The place is overrun with big-spending Democrats as it is, you idiots, who are you going to replace them with? The bank is empty, jackass, and the voters aren’t going to cough up any more until you get your act together, which you never will.
I think the difference is that the unions are protecting their place at the trough of mine and your tax dollars whereas we on the Right are trying to stop more of our tax dollars ending up in said trough.
Why do I think I’ve seen this same female pushing a shopping cart through Wal Mart with the same posture she has over that podium?
Hey, I resemble that remark!
I think it was Lou Costello who said
“that’s either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster.”
I cannot begin to express how offensive your comparison of this woman and unions in general to American citizens voting in elections is to me.
While I agree that this is the system foisted upon the citizenry by unscrupulous lobbyists and greedy officials, it is killing this country. This isn’t something to merely shrug off, but should be a clarion call for us all to rise up and throw off these practices.
I have never, and I will venture to guess neither have most of the people of this country, lobbied for something that benefits me to the detriment of my community. I will provide for myself and I will vote for people who will do the job as enumerated in the constitution and vote against those who do not.
We need a tea party lobby in each state. And a national tea party lobby. These union scum are only 8% of the work force. We should be able to make them irrelevant.
When Oklahoma passed it’s right to work laws, our economy took off gang busters. It is one of the best things we ever did.
SEIU is just as corrupt as good ole ACORN and are inexplicable joined at the hip…time to toss them both out…
ooops inexplicably joined
Michelle, I do not think this is one of your best posts. I have to agree with some of the others above that threatening to vote someone out of office because they took your support and now do not push their agenda is just politics.
I think conservative gorups would rightfully say similar things if a candidate supported strict border enforcement, then, once in office backed down form that stance. In fact, to echo further some previous comments I think we NEED to do that when our candidates fail to live up to the values they profess while running for office.
What is to fear, and what is wrong, is that card check will give this woman, or anyone like her, the opportunity to intimidate workers to support a union because the workers would no longer be able to make that decsion in the privacy of a voting booth.
I think you meant “inextricably joined”.
Their association is very explicable…they are thug statist organs of the various statist regimes in our federal and state governments.
I apologize if my comment seems smartasped.
Here in Hawaii, the unions run the state.
These public employee unions are drawn to one thing only: increasing their rolls.
Which means that the unions are drawn to corruption like a tornado to a trailer park.
I think that point is well-taken, however…
there is a FUNDAMENTAL difference to my mind between a group asking for government to do that which it is mandated to do (i.e., enforce our borders, or NOT intrude on our rights), and a group seeking $$$$$$$$$, special treatment, etc. (including business and agriculture).
There is no difference?
Think again. This woman is threatening to use funds that the union extorts from its members by coercive means and spends contrary to the views of at least a sizable percentage of the union to implement policies that may both harm the union rank and file and further the personal interests of union leadership.
“Regular Joes” cannot do this. Moral people do not do this. Extracting money from people and spending it contrary to their wishes and best interests is something leftists specialize in. What else do you call this if not “thuggery?”
There is a difference!
Rags–there is, indeed, a big difference between serving special interests (esp. those whose said ‘interest’ includes the degradation of the USA), and serving the average Joe Tryin’tomakeEndsMeet.
jsmiddleton4, I understand what you’re saying, but I still disagree.
Using such a tactic for your own personal financial gain is a lot different than taking a position of support or non-support over a more general principal.
It seems that the Unions are all about furthering their own personal financial gain at the expense of everyone else.
Take NYC for example. The unions that represent city and state employees have held this city and the state hostage… quite literally… so they can get deals that would never be offered to the private sector. And that private sector has to foot the bill.
And what are they bargaining with? Their collective vote. That they unified their voice, or should I say…had their voice unified by union leaders… is fine. It’s what they are using it for that makes it a dubious method at best.
I’m still in shock that the CA GOP spent money on something other than for bashing conservatives.
Where is the FBI on this? Oh I forgot they are reading the Miranda Rights to terrorist and negotiating with pirates. This is a RICO crime, and nobody is in the office!
The problem is that unions no longer protect their members from employer abuses. They are now all about using extortion to get more money.
Reason # 9,999,999 why conservatives could never have a liberal hatef*ck list. We have all the pretty, smart, patriotic women.
They have… well… you have all seen code pink, union reps, ACORN, etc.,
Ugh!
Not to mention those dollars do not belong to them exclusively but to us all collectively.
I was looking at this in the context of the statement made in the video segment. I accept your premise af the fundamental diferences in the greater context.
No, Savage, the lady threatening elected public serpents in the video clip is not a crime. It is a lot of bad things, but not a crime.
One thing to remember, unions have special protections written into many federal statutes that exempt them from doing things that are crimes or civil wrongs for business or other organizations to do. These date from the 20s and 30s, when socialism and fascism first became shiny ideas in the US.
me too
I am surprised by the number of people who have disagreed with MM’s posting.
I confess I am not a huge fan of union leadership but I recognize the right to bargain collectively. But, it is precisely because of examples like this video that I believe union leadership have gone way beyond what is acceptable and are using the unions for their own personal benefit and gain.
It is one thing if “Barney the Union Rep” threatens to use her money to influence elections. It is quite a different thing when “Barney the Union Rep” threatens to take my money and your money and use it to influence elections contrary to my beliefs.
Call a union office and tell them you, as a union member, would like to suggest they take even a portion of your union dues and make a donation to a conservative candidate. If you are lucky they will only laugh at you and hang up.
I have no problem calling this “thuggery.” I am surprised that several people don’t. Go figure…
Those of us who are “literal” thinkers, probably don’t see a problem with what she did. However, I see where some are comparing her to the neighborhood thug who threatens his neighbors if they don’t give him what he wants and I see their point. What these people are arguing is not what she is doing so much is why she is doing it. I’m literal, I see what she is doing only and say it’s ok.
The entire rationale for a “public service” union is ridiculous. Does this “lady” think the state government is “greedy”, the way unionheads look at private sector employers?
Does she think the government is inherently indifferent to the health and safety of its employees, as private-sector unions routinely offer as another raison d’etre in their continual skirmishing with Evil Big Business??
No. She’s simply trying to get more of OUR tax money for her fellow extortionists, at a time when California is teetering on bankruptcy.
It’s not a case where a union gets wage increases from a business and considers the process a zero-sum game (which in any case it is not). Rather it’s a case of blind indifference to the taxpayers who will have to fork over more of their money to service this woman’s Jones for hot fudge sundaes.
Don’t tell us that’s the way the system works. That’s the way it shouldn’t work.
Maybe she can get Barack to force California into bankruptcy and turn over the state to SEIU, as he did with GM and Chrysler.
No, that’s why she’s doing it, it isn’t what she is doing… She wants more money and she what she is doing is using this tactic “I voted you in, I’ll vote you out” if you don’t give me what I want. I see it as a tatic to get what she wants. We all agree, we just view the ‘whole’ picture differently.
correction: No, that’s why she’s doing it, it isn’t what she is doing… She wants more money and she
what she is doingis using this tactic “I voted you in, I’ll vote you out” if you don’t give me what I want. I see it as a tatic to get what she wants. We all agree, we just view the ‘whole’ picture differently.I think there is a great question as to whether ANY union representation of civil service workers is good public policy.
By definition, they enjoy civil service protections. They are thus already protected from many of the issues that the rest of us “working people” have to deal with, and enjoy many benefits that people in the public sector do not.
Having people who are joined at the hip with government at various levels also striking or bargaining collectively with the government is, per force, a conflict of interest. It has led to the mess in California, one of those places where this conflict has greatest influence. It has led to municipal employees of NYC commonly having incomes in the six figures.
It is commonplace for these people to behave in ways that can only be called “thuggish”.
It was not so long ago that we all knew the government run unions in Communist states represented the interests of the states and not the workers.
Will it be noted in history books that in the USA in the early 21st century that the union run governments represented the interests of the union bosses instead of the rank and file and other citizens of the state?
If this isn’t RICO but Operation Rescue praying in front of abortion clinics is then something is definitely wrong with the RICO laws.
I completely disagree (for what it’s worth). I believe you are associating this behavior (in this specific incident) with a group that is known for thuggery. I do not feel if, for instance, priests got together and told a candidate “you are no longer representing what we value. You want to tax our churches and we need this money, and if you continue do so, we will vote you out?”
Tell me what is the difference, except the messenger? Forget what issue is resulting in this behavior. Don’t you think you may be influenced by this woman’s demeanor AND the fact that this involves a union?
oh, and PS – I dispise unions.
Bulls-eye. The laws exempting unions from anti-trust and anti-competition statues, RICO, etc., have this wrong with them…
they were passed by politicians, many of whom were and are statists (socialists and/or fascists). They were passed to give UNIONS special abilities, and to give people in the private sector special liabilities.
It is like the LGBT alliance who are pulling out of a recent fundraiser for the Democrats and to be attended by Pres Obama.
The LGBT alliance thought they had an ally in Pres Obama and supported his election with the notion that he would pursue their agenda – DADT, civil unions, benefits, etc.
Since Pres Obama has been less than forceful in pursuing the LGBT agenda, they are pulling back their support.
Republicans who became Democratic in their spending behaviour suffered the same lack of support.
If you don’t listen to the constituencies that supported you, and not follow through on your promises, they have the freedom to either support that person in the future, or not.
A better characterization would be pissed off, and not thuggery.