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Bastard

By Michelle Malkin • June 24, 2009 02:54 PM

It’s the only fitting word for a man who abandons his wife and four sons on Father’s Day weekend to indulge his “overdrive” on an Argentinian fling.

Mark Sanford: Bastard.

***

If you missed Sanford’s rambling, surreal disaster of a press conference, consider yourself lucky.

He had a hell of a lot more passion and pathos for his mistress than his own wife. He referred wistfully to the “great friendship” and “that sparking thing” he had with the mistress for eight years — during which his wife was raising his four children.

No excuses.

No “but, but, look at all the dirty Democrats.”

This is a disgrace. I called Michelle Obama what she is earlier this week. I call Mark Sanford what he is now.

He called himself “selfish” at the press conference. That’s the least of it.

***

If you can’t honor your marriage vows, how can you expect voters to trust you to honor your damned oath of office?

***

Philip Klein:

It’s absolutely disgraceful not only that he had an affair, not only that he lied about it publicly, but that he put his staff in a position to lie about it. And anybody who has followed Sanford was given the impression that he was a family man. Always close to his sons, so tight with his wife that she managed every one of his campaigns and even served temporarily as his chief of staff while he was governor. And yet he abandons them on Father’s Day weekend to fly off to Argentinia to see his mistress, and now forces them to live through all this emotional pain in the media spotlight.

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A reminder about what I said regarding stupid, selfish John Ensign: here and here.

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#727885

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, bigterpfan said:

Whoops. Here’s the link:

http://www.ickypeople.com/2008/08/fox-news-defends-john-mccain-adultury.html
#727886

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, RobM1981 said:

I want to protest in the strongest terms possible the use of the word “bastard” here. That word is no longer acceptable in Western Norms. Sort of like “bum,” or “deadbeat.”

You may refer to the Governor of SC as “offspring of a single mom,” or “child of a single-parent home,” or “I hope he gets a horrible disease and dies cold and alone.”

Just don’t call him “Bastard.”

That is all.
#727887

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, FireBlogger said:

What can you say, he is a scumbag.

On Father’s Day no less. Nice role model material for your four boys Chief.

This guy rivals Spitzer for gall.
#727891

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, jjmurphy said:

Is there just one wormy bastard we can trust in either of these trashy Parties? I’m beginning to think it doesn’t matter what any of us do because there’s nothing but dirt bags in politics.

rplatt – They are all dirt bags. I think it goes hand-in-hand with the quest for power. They think they walk on water, particularly after they are in power for a while.
#727892

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, redbug70 said:

It doesn’t matter what the details are, or if it was man, woman or telephone pole he was seeing in Argentina. It is another Republican politician rendered ineffective, regardless of what actually happened.

This guy was being touted as a possible GOP presidential candidate. Now he is ruined. We count on the Republicans to be the standard bearers for our conservative principals and we are continually let down by them.

A pox on the houses of all politicians. They play and manuever for themselves all the time our country is burning to the ground.
#727893

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pm, cubbiegal said:

Yesterday evening my husband commented that the fact that Gov. Sanford’s “disappearance” had many of the signs of an affair.
Look’s like my husband was correct.
What a cruel thing to do to your family.
Sandford is a worthless scumbag.
#727894

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pm, swede said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, RobM1981 said:
I want to protest in the strongest terms possible the use of the word “bastard” here.

Sorry, the shoe fits, and if anything is too kind. The real words he deserves would get you kicked off this site.
#727895

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, usa_usa said:

Perhaps I am the only one reading that comment this way; but, there’s something Faustian bargain-like about that comment, as if it says to us: “Let’s accept ur-dishonesty from someone as long as he votes and governs the way we want him to.”
To that, I say, “No, thank you.”

Well, Good luck finding honest and biblically correct politicians. In the meanwhile I’ll settle for those who merely vote to support the Christian values.
#727896

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Savage24 said:

There is always a bad apple in every barrel, and Republican bad apples are thrown into the garbage. Democrat bad apples are rewarded. One hell of a political system we live with.Throw them all out of office.
#727897

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Jeff said:

I believe it was Marx who said…” I would not belong to any club who would have me as a member”
#727899

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Ragspierre said:

I was NOT going to post today…

Too much to do.

But here’s a some question[s]…

When we vote a person into office, we expect them to act according to the oath they take on assuming that office. We expect them to be responsible. We expect them to be truthful (at least, by-in-large). We expect them to exert their best judgment.

When someone indulges his or her appetites in one arena of human behavior, in violation of a sacred oath, what assures us they won’t indulge them in every other?

When someone acts irresponsibly…in apparent dereliction of their duty…how then could we entrust them with a great responsibility?

When an office holder shows such a suspension of sound judgment, will we justifiably invest them with greater power, relying on their judgment?

And, when an office-holder uses the organs of their office (resist the temptation, Chedder) to publish a lie to the people who put them in office, can we ever expect we would be wise to again trust that person?

My answers to these questions put Mr. Stanford out of consideration for ever having my vote, or my support.
#727905

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, redbug70 said:

There was once a movie called Bastard from Carolina! Wow!
#727906

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, bagoh20 said:

“It’s just about sex.” Isn’t that what they say?
#727909

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, usa_usa said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Savage24 said:
There is always a bad apple in every barrel, and Republican bad apples are thrown into the garbage. Democrat bad apples are rewarded. One hell of a political system we live with.Throw them all out of office.

We gave John McCain the nomination. Not exactly thrown in garbage.
#727911

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, spaceycakes said:

Rags–I’m with you on all of the above.
#727914

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, spaceycakes said:

“It’s just about sex.” Isn’t that what they say?

Yes, if it’s a dhimmicrat.
#727915

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, Jeff said:

Sounds like he met The Girl from Ipanema…
#727916

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, jjmurphy said:

Well said, Rags.

This is one more reason for term limits and reducing the power of government. The less time in office and the less power they have, the safer we all are.
#727917

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, Ragspierre said:

Would it be beyond the far left statists to target up and coming conservatives, set them up with temptations and wait for them to succumb and fall and then reap the benefits?

You can take it to the bank that they are. Just keep in mind the army of “opposition researchers/creative writers” that were dispatched to Alaska to microscopically dissect Mrs. Palin.

Anyone who thinks differently is living in la-la land. Which makes conduct like Stanford’s and Ensign’s all the more irresponsible and STOOOOOOOOOPID.
#727918

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, Bogtrotter said:

Lucifer Jones said: “You are falling into a trap to weaken those who are fighting for liberty at home against those who do not hold themselves to any standards.”

Reading and rereading it to be sure I am not misunderstanding you, I only see you putting forth the position that for the sake of hanging onto political power in some very odd way justifies conservatives embracing the same lack of standards. Sorry, you are dead wrong. And he is not being thrown under the bus……he swan dived there on his own. The people of SC will have a chance to choose better in the future, which is all they can ask for.
#727919

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, usa_usa said:

I was NOT going to post today…
Too much to do.
But here’s a some question[s]…
When we vote a person into office, we expect them to act according to the oath they take on assuming that office. We expect them to be responsible. We expect them to be truthful (at least, by-in-large). We expect them to exert their best judgment.
When someone indulges his or her appetites in one arena of human behavior, in violation of a sacred oath, what assures us they won’t indulge them in every other?
When someone acts irresponsibly…in apparent dereliction of their duty…how then could we entrust them with a great responsibility?
When an office holder shows such a suspension of sound judgment, will we justifiably invest them with greater power, relying on their judgment?
And, when an office-holder uses the organs of their office (resist the temptation, Chedder) to publish a lie to the people who put them in office, can we ever expect we would be wise to again trust that person?
My answers to these questions put Mr. Stanford out of consideration for ever having my vote, or my support.

I am OK as long as they vote the right way and appoint the right justices. They can have affairs with whoever they want as long as their spouses don’t mind. Very few honest Christians will put up with our election process.
#727921

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, txvet2 said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Jeff said:

I believe it was Marx who said…” I would not belong to any club who would have me as a member”

You’re right – Groucho, not Karl.
#727922

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, redbug70 said:

I guess Hillary Clinton set the standard for wives whose husbands have affairs and they don’t mind.
#727923

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, emjem24 said:

I wanted to added something else to our discussion of Mr. Sanford. A lot of us saw in him a rising star, someone who embodied conservatism and values that seem more and more by many in this country to be quaint and “old-fashioned.” Many of us cheered Sanford refusing the stimulus money and for that, he should be congratulated. That took political guts and courage. He angered many in his own SC GOP and the Dems of that state. Then, he does something like this. There had to be something seriously missing in his life to even indulge in an affair.

I’ve been married almost 10 years and I’ve found it takes a lot of teamwork, energy, openness, and commitment to keep one’s marriage intact. If you add the military into that mix (my husband is in the military) and the current culture we have in this country, a marriage has an added strain. Many women (and men) can only envision the wedding but not the work it takes to make a marriage work. I wish that there wasn’t so much concentration on the wedding and more on the actual relationship itself.

Sanford may love his wife and children but love wasn’t enough to keep him from straying. Something broke down in their relationship and even if zyzzyg finds our speculation a pointless exercise I think these constant “affair scandals” points to something more troubling in our culture and society. People, both men and women, don’t have the strength to work on their relationships. Some, like my sister-in-law’s husband, were too narcissistic and selfish, to see the damage they were doing until it was too late. Some even think that cheating improves one’s relationship. No, it doesn’t. Distrust eats at relationships. I’ve seen if first hand in the break up of my aunt and uncle’s marriage (they cheated on each other).

Unless you work at your marriage and have enough trust in each other and the relationship, it will never survive something like an affair. If you’re not committed to therapy or marriage counseling to improve the relationship, then no marriage can survive an infidelity no matter how sorry the cheating spouse is.

I fell really sorry for the Sanford family. Especially the wife and kids. It’s like a surreal political version of what recently played out on Jon and Kate Plus 8.

I think we all, collectively, lose when even those who marry, whoever they are, don’t have the kind of strength and commitment required to make marriage last. Families and marriages are the backbone of our country and without them we’re all a little bit less connected and strong without them.
#727924

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, Bogtrotter said:

Ragspierre said: “Got Hannity on now, and I didn’t get that he is defending Stanford.”

Thanks, looking forward to it now.
#727925

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, NJMark said:

But, did he explain why he left the State without leaving someone at the helm.

As I recall, when Sanford was away, Grady would usually come over to help out. (Lamont couldn’t handle things by himself, I guess.)

In 1992, 1996, and 1998 (midterms), our side raised the issue against adulterous leaders. People voted – and we lost every one of those arguments.
#727926

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, granite said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Jeff said:

I believe it was Marx who said…” I would not belong to any club who would have me as a member”

Karl, no.

Groucho, yes.
#727928

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pm, Southpaw said:

OT – USA 2, Spain 0 in Confederations Cup. Huge win.
#727929

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pm, William said:

Fortunately I have not been in a position in which I’ve had to support or withhold support for Sanford.

Nevertheless, I would like to see equal treatment of all those who engage in the same. However, Democrats-leftists-radicals-fifth columnists have clearly received soft treatment in all cases in which conservatives, republicans are excoriated.

Because of this I have no intention of getting all hot and bothered over Sanford and calling for his tar and feathering. Until this same treatment is equal disseminated on the left and the right when they misbehave, I see no justice in it.

As far as I am concerned, you can take them out to the deep sea, toss in lots of chum to call the diners (Sharks) for dinner, and toss them, the crappy politicians, all overboard, giving the sharks some treats, or a full meal. I wouldn’t mind never seeing or hearing from any of them ever again.

Thank you very much.

Bon appetite!
#727930

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, RobM1981 said:

I have no issue with the affair. It’s none of my business. Would it keep me from voting for him? Yes. I accept that everyone has “feet of clay,” but I also have expectations of public officials that goes beyond what I have for private citizens. (TALK about a “recipe for disappointment,” but I digress)

I didn’t think that Clinton should resign because of his affair, and I don’t think that Sanford should either.

Sanford should resign for gross negligence of his duty, just like Clinton should have resigned for Sexual Harassment and Hostile Work Environment.

Sanford is certainly not the most public of figures, but what if someone in Argentina recognized him and kidnapped or murdered him?

When he asked for the job of Governor, he realized that it involves a very, very significant loss of personal freedom. That’s the quid pro quo for power, and he violated it.

He should resign. If he doesn’t resign by EOW, he should be impeached and thrown out.

Not for the affair, but for leaving the United States unescorted.
#727931

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, NJRepublican said:

Uggh! I feel so dirty! I was sticking up for Sanford when he was MIA – I really liked his Stimulus stance. I even wrote him an email telling him to stay strong. Why’d he have to end up being a douchebag?!?!
#727932

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, flmom said:

Rags

Well said. I would add that anyone, man or woman who can look at their children and carry on an affair, particularly when you are a public figure, is an incredibly selfish human being. Knowing the hurt and disappointment you could inflict on them surely would tug at your conscience. I know I couldn’t bear to see the hurt in my childrens’ eyes, it would haunt me forever.
#727933

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, Jeff said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, txvet2 said:

You’re right – Groucho, not Karl.

Exactly right…

And true about power corrupting…
#727934

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, Ragspierre said:

I have to take exception to several posts making the assertion that ALL politicians are dishonorable.

It is far too broad a statement, and I believe we DO have some honorable people serving in our government.

To overlook them, and the fact that they DO live as they portray themselves is a gross disservice. It also robs them of the moral support that I think they deserve from each of us.

If we expect all office holders to be scum, the good ones have a goad to live down to our expectations.

To anyone, anywhere…but especially those in high office…who live good lives, you have my salute, recognition, and gratitude.

I hope that I could do as well, if put in that position. I hope I could count on the support of good people, just as they should be able to feel that from us each.
#727935

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pm, Jeff said:

Well done also, Granite…
I left it ambiguous on purpose.
#727936

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, Ron said:

No sympathy, only contempt. Eight years, for Pete’s sake. Regardless of when he was physically unfaithful to his wife, it started the first time his ‘friend’ became a confidant. He’s been emotionally unfaithful for at least eight years, by his account. That’s disgusting. He and John Edwards have got a lot to talk about.
#727937

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, swede said:

Rags (#195) Affirmative. The word is integrity. A person who violates one sacred vow should not be trusted with another. And this goes beyond the slime factor. A governor trying a stunt like this for a week and not expecting to be caught is numerous bricks short of a load.
#727938

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, ErinF said:

Yeah, what makes ANY republican think they will get away scot-free with such BS? What they should do is switch parties FIRST… then they can do whatever they want without any repercussions.
#727939

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, bigterpfan said:

Like I’ve said before, the joy of being amoral, aka a Demonrat, you are safe from accusations of hypocrisy.

BTW, I voted for John McCain, knowing he was flawed, because I suspected Obama was a particularly noxious mix of inexperience and ‘The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers’, and nothing has dissuaded me from that opinion now that the miserable POS mix of Marxist/Statist and Chicago machine thug has been in office.

Oh, as an aside, it wasn’t “just sex” with Clinton, it was lying under oath while being deposed to deny justice to a state employee he had harassed, it was lying under oath to a Federal grand jury, and encouraging Federal employees to lie under oath.

Actually, I’m glad the GOP persuades creeps like Mark Foley who e-mailed pervy e-mails to 16 year olds to resign, as compared to the Dems who allowed Gerry Studds, who sodomized a 16 year old male page, to serve 8 more terms in the House. I’m glad Newt Gingrich was pressured to step down as Speaker for cheating, while Barney’s Frank gets a pass on a free sex from a gay prostitute in exchange for using the house as a bordello deal.

Yeah, our side can be accused of hypocrisy, because we have morals and standards we can fall short of, and your side doesn’t.
#727940

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Jeff said:

The Groucho quote has been turned on it’s head as ; immorality in the club is rampant while, the outsiders are relatively clean.
#727941

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, granite said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Fineous Reese said:

Maybe I’m tired enough to be prone to conspiracy theory but one of the first thoughts that popped in upon reading about Sanford’s fling was a set up similar to what Mitch McDeere ran into in Grisham’s The Firm. Would it be beyond the far left statists to target up and coming conservatives, set them up with temptations and wait for them to succumb and fall and then reap the benefits?

It would not be beyond them at all to set a “Honey trap”.

The opposite-world view holders plan long in advance.

For the past 40 ?50-60? years they have been following Antonio Gramsci’s plan set forth in the 20s and 30s:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/823368/posts
#727942

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

Nobody is perfect, but I’m not aware of a single flaw of Duncan Hunter.

Got his law degree on the GI Bill after service in Vietnam, tough on national security and the border. Would have made a great president, certainly wouldn’t have conceded a pass to Obama on open borders and the AGW cap-n-trade carbon tax.

But he was just a Representative, not a lot of money, and the MSM did their best to ignore him so he never gained traction.
#727946

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pm, vickisoup said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, usa_usa said:
If he switches to democratic party, he will win in a landslide.

Game, set and match.
#727947

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, fighterDC said:

Ditto on Duncan Hunter as a 2012 nominee. Love the guy but he doesn’t have the money behind him, unfortunately.
#727948

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, rwsmitty said:

What an idiot!! Doesn’t he know this is the year to cheat on your TAXES, not on your wife.
#727949

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, usa_usa said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
Nobody is perfect, but I’m not aware of a single flaw of Duncan Hunter.
Got his law degree on the GI Bill after service in Vietnam, tough on national security and the border. Would have made a great president, certainly wouldn’t have conceded a pass to Obama on open borders and the AGW cap-n-trade carbon tax.
But he was just a Representative, not a lot of money, and the MSM did their best to ignore him so he never gained traction.

I only supported him and Tancredo in primaries. Too bad we did not even get a chance to vote for either of them.
#727950

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

Errah, I guess there is no accountability by the press or government that would act as a deterant to this sort of scumbaggery by a public official. Does the FBI and CIA now turn a blind eye to this and not watch what sort of odd behavior government officials are up to? Can someone put a tail on Pawlenty and Jindell just to make sure they aren’t taking overseas excursions like this tool. Palin’s looking better at having a lock on the 2010 nomination every single day.
#727951

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, Jeff said:

Ahhh…The tabloids have a scoop !

http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/9290/governor-sanfords-disappearance/
#727952

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Bogtrotter said:

“I think most politicians are not true Christians. They just fake it to get the votes.”

You could be right. But you should divest yourself of any thought that Christians are automatically morally superior. There is a looooong list of Christians who have been involved in affairs, and worse. And saying those people were never “True Christians” has always struck me as being a easy cop out. The list of sins is long. Does that mean that anyone who commits one was never a “True Christian”? If true, we will be able to build much smaller churches in the future. Try another hallmark of the theology…. forgiveness. And that in no way means he gets to keep his job as Gov, or even hold public office again. I thought about dragging out “….cast the first stone…..”, but thought it would be a little too over the top.
#727953

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, Jeff said:

Sanford really showed his idiocy by doing this on Fathers day…
No Craftsmean tools for you…you tool!
#727954

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, rusty_armor said:

I wonder what ever happened to discretion?
#727955

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

Just the latest example of how you can’t tell the Republicans from the Democrats anymore. GOP, the party that doesn’t stand for anything.
#727957

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

Actually, I’m glad the GOP persuades creeps like Mark Foley who e-mailed pervy e-mails to 16 year olds to resign, as compared to the Dems who allowed Gerry Studds, who sodomized a 16 year old male page, to serve 8 more terms in the House. I’m glad Newt Gingrich was pressured to step down as Speaker for cheating, while Barney’s Frank gets a pass on a free sex from a gay prostitute in exchange for using the house as a bordello deal.

Are you serious? Newt got pushed out because the Clinton impeachment was so unpopular that Republicans had the worst midterm showing in six decades. It wasn’t until after he stepped down that he admitted to an affair.

Also, cough ahhhh cough.
#727958

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, Ragspierre said:

Well said. We ought to expect the best of people, and of our elected officials that expectation ought to become a demand. Enough with the excuses. If someone goes into a marriage with the idea that if it doesn’t work out, they can always get a divorce, chances are that marriage will end up in divorce.

Clint Black said it well in the song he wrote, When I said I do, I meant that I will….

The wedding is just the beginning of the fairy tale, not the end.

Now I really have to get back to work. Mr. Infidelity has become an unwelcome distraction.
#727959

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

Errah, GOP “Ghost of a Party”
#727960

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, Jeff said:

His statements did not explain anything, logically what is his reasoning?…What is he really trying to avoid talking about here ? It seems like a ploy to avoid talking about what really happened the last 5 days.
#727961

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:16 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

I sent money to Hunter.

By primary/caucus day in Texas, it was over, so I supported (not really Operation Chaos) the lesser of two truly evil people, Hillary.

She won the primary easily, but lost the same night caucus. I attended a caucus, in a majority Black precinct.

Polling station volunteers, theoretically neutral, hung Obama posters. One of them got on the PA and claimed Obama won both Texas and Ohio by over 10%. Most of the Clinton supporters went home at that point.

I emailed the Hillary campaign in Texas about the violations, and now am on Demonratic Party e-mail lists, despite writing ascerbic replies to many that hit my in-box.

But it was interesting to see how the Demonrats tell their supporters fighting against picture ID at the voting station is actually a fight against an anti-minority and anti-elderly GOP conspiracy, and not an obvious move to make voter fraud easier.

I sent $25 to McCain the night after Palin’s acceptance speech. I was pro-Palin and anti-Obama, I was never pro-McCain.
#727962

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, zyzzyg said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pm, spaceycakes said: #160

Green
Alpha
Yellow

Seven
Extra
Xray

Whatever. Read the first six words from my post #101.
#727963

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

Errah, zyzzyg, so now we know where Perez got his black eye, but how??!! I wonder?
#727966

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, jjmurphy said:

It is far too broad a statement, and I believe we DO have some honorable people serving in our government.

I am sure there are a few honest politicians. Maybe 5% of the total.
#727967

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

How many links on Vitter and his visit to a prostitute can you find. I just can’t read enough of them.

And Newt’s troubles were because he cheated on his wife.

If the Clinton impeachment was so unpopular, how come, with the Clinton recession only just beginning in Autumn 2008, so the economy wasn’t really an issue yet, did Gore, with many of the advantages of incumbency, manage to lose, even in Tennessee, even with the Bush DWI story sprung the weekend before the election.

(Hint, it wasn’t a few hanging chads in Florida- it was Clinton fatigue.)
#727968

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

If the basturd would just resign from his governorship… we don’t need his kind of leadership…

Are you listening Mark… get out of the way… I hope she was good for you ’cause you’ve thrown your honor, your family and any hopes at a presidential run down the sewer for an ejaculation.

What in hell were you thinking?
#727970

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, CO2 Producer said:

pianoman, I’ll have to get around to seeing that movie someday.

I’m toootally cynical. Maybe “skeptical” would be more accurate. Trust is hard-earned and is as good as impossible to wholly attain, as far as I’m concerned. Then again, I was a fan of The X-Files.

Rob T., if someone gives in to the temptation to cheat, they’re not as smart and civilized as assumed. Cheating shouldn’t be accepted as normal behavior, but it seems it is now. Which is one of the many reasons why I’m a skeptic.

Since no one is perfect, the answer to my question at 3:47pm must be “no.” But gosh golly, it would be nice to have more elected individuals who keep their tainted behavior, faulty logic, and/or corruptible influences to a minimum. Voting for the lesser or the least of two or more evils is ridiculously commonplace. Corruption that takes place once an elected individual enters a seat of power is also commonplace, unfortunately.

Gotta go for now. Take care, fellow commentators.
#727971

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, usa_usa said:

who said “God did not give enough blood to man to operate his brain and **** simultaneously” . Seems so true in this case
#727972

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, DBNinKY said:

Are you serious?

Apparently you aren’t!

Newt, who was out front and right all the issues of that time, was pushed out by a leftist media that portrayed him as cold and feeling after the “orphanage” debacle, making him a liability to the Republican Party.

Or have you forgotten the “Gingrich who stole the [Democrats'] Christmas?”
#727973

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

How many links on Vitter and his visit to a prostitute can you find. I just can’t read enough of them.

Those links are about Vitter visiting two different prostitutes in DC and New Orleans, after years of rumors of him being a regular John in NO.

And Newt’s troubles were because he cheated on his wife.

If the Clinton impeachment was so unpopular, how come, with the Clinton recession only just beginning in Autumn 2008, so the economy wasn’t really an issue yet, did Gore, with many of the advantages of incumbency, manage to lose, even in Tennessee, even with the Bush DWI story sprung the weekend before the election.

This is so divorced from reality, I don’t know where to start. Gingrich stepped down just days after the ‘98 midterms as a result of the GOP’s terrible showing. Gingrich’s affair was not disclosed to anyone until 2000. The Clinton impeachment was a public opinion debacle for Republicans, and he had the highest approval rating of any president in the history of public opinion polls.
#727975

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

Errah I’d like to be his chauffeur for one evening . . . .
#727976

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, DBNinKY said:

Oops! “…making him a [PERCEIVED] liability to the Republican Party.”
#727977

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, WarEagle82 said:

Up until this morning I was a strong advocate of Sanford’s right to get away for awhile. Certainly the timing of the trip over Father’s Day was odd but who am I to say.

Then I heard he was in Argentina. Married men don’t fly off for week-long trips out of the country to be alone. When I heard this I realized it was only a matter of time before he confessed to what, and who, he was really “doing.”

Michelle is spot-on. This guy is a bastard of the first order. Married men who cheat on their wives and kids and drag them through this kind of public humiliation aren’t worth a sheet of used toilet paper!

Are these people really so stupid as to think that, in this day and age, they can run around with their pants down around their ankles and not get caught? That alone ought to be reason for public figures to not engage in extramarital affairs! Never mind the solemn vow he took before God, 400 to 500 witnesses and his wife!

I take it back. Bastard is too good a label for this philandering, hypocritical fool. Do the right thing and resign as governor to spare the people of South Carolina the spectacle of what certainly awaits.

Get some counseling or get ready for your wife to take you to the cleaners for the humiliation you have forced her to bear.
#727979

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, CleanGuy said:

Political Darwinism
#727980

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, Ragspierre said:

The Clinton impeachment was a public opinion debacle for Republicans, and he had the highest approval rating of any president in the history of public opinion polls.

And that’s all that matters to a mind like yours.

Pitiful. Just stinking pitiful.

One of my favorite movies is Rob Roy. There is a line, spoken as MacGregor is teaching his sons about an important idea.

“Honor is a gift a man gives himself. No man may give it him, and no man can take it away.” (paraphrased)

It is a concept utterly foreign to you.
#727982

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pm, WarEagle82 said:

No, just a philandering idiot revealing his true nature. It happens all the time but conservatives expect conservatives to be faithful to their vows, political and marital. Leftards expect leftards to violate any and every vow whenever convenient.

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, CleanGuy said:

Political Darwinism
#727983

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, rambler said:

Every day a new scandal appears. The bigger scandal is that the American public seems to support democrat cads while demonizing GOP cads. They all need to go, regardless of party.
#727985

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm, Defector01 said:

Can I just reiterate how absolutely ridiculous it is to get furious over THIS when the other side breaks the law on NUMEROUS ocassions as part of their ‘lack of morals’ and can not only skate past it without so much as a second glance, but can lecture our side about morals?

What’s the point in playing this moronic self absorbed game when the other side not only doesn’t play by the same rules but uses their lack of rules as a club to beat us over the head with?
#727986

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:45 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

I am from SC and I am in shock, for all that he stood up against Obama’s stimulus, then this. What a let down. His wife says she knew about the affair for 6 months. This proud red state will obviously turn blue now. The Dems are going to eat him alive. Are there any politicians out there that are honest?
#727987

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, Defector01 said:

thetoysurgeon said:

I am from SC and I am in shock, for all that he stood up against Obama’s stimulus, then this. What a let down. His wife says she knew about the affair for 6 months. This proud red state will obviously turn blue now. The Dems are going to eat him alive. Are there any politicians out there that are honest?

Yeah, because the democrats are SOOOO much more honorable and decent. Oh no that’s right, they just can get away with murder whereas we hold ourselves to an insane standard only to get beaten in the head about it
#727989

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, zyzzyg said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, emjem24 said: #208

“. . . even if zyzzyg finds our speculation a pointless exercise . . . “

No. Nope. Nada.

Speculation is not pointless, it is far more insidious. Speculation without facts is plain wrong. Asking silly questions is just plain wrong.

Speculation is extrapolation gone wild. We should avoid it because the only purpose it serves is to solicit emotions.

Because a politician says one municipality should be able to write it’s on gun laws does not mean that the politician wants to take away our guns in another jurisdiction. That is extrapolitive speculation. That is wrong.

Because a politician speaks to the benefits of Fatherhood being a good thing does not merit asking whether that politician supports the notion of having a Fatherhood Czar. That is extrapolitive speculation. That is wrong.

Because a politician supports saving an American institution and does not want to see it collapse, does not mean that politician is anti-capitalist, or a socialist. That is extrapolitive speculation. That is wrong.

Seeing one single point on a continuum and extending it to the worst case scenario is extrapolitive speculation. That is wrong. Especially when the politician provides a reason for doing what they are doing.

Yep, take the politician to task, but avoid doing it with speculation. Do it with facts.

Speculation is the strawman that dismisses the policy and allows us to suggest the politician is the devil incarnate.

I will close with the following quote -

” . . I want to stipulate that all these things are so . . . you can oppose somebody on policy grounds without taking the position that he is the devil incarnate . . .”

- Michelle Malkin
#727991

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, Ragspierre said:

More effects of binary thinking by the z-troll.

Disturbing…
#727992

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm, Laree said:

It isn’t possible to be disappointed in these people anymore, when they lower the bar to the floor. So many fall short of glory.
#727993

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm, zyzzyg said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, Teddy Kennedy said: #243

Errah, zyzzyg, so now we know where Perez got his black eye, but how??!! I wonder?

I beleive it was always known where he got his black eye. From a Black Eye Pea . . . supporter. No speculation there, just read Perez’s twitter. Google his video.

[Note: Avoid speculation and silly questions.]

LOL.
#727994

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pm, right_on said:

Since there was no mention of Bush being the cause of this infidelity, I thought someone should get it out of the way…

Mark Sanford wasn’t hiking, but he was in the bush…the Argentinian bush…

He was exhausted after six days of beating around the bush….

Etc., etc.

Now, will someone in the media please concentrate on what is really important, like…finding out more about this Argentine home-wrecker….?

/sarc off
#727995

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:56 pm, usa_usa said:

Well, looks like his wife is giving him another chance.
#728003

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:59 pm, zyzzyg said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, Ragspierre said: #262

More effects of binary thinking by the z-troll.

Disturbing…

Rag, did you fall out of your warm, moist, and dark cave again? Loose hold of the string?

When you are ready to properly deconstruct anything I have posted, do so and I will respond, . . . line by line.

Until then, climb back up the string into your warm, moist, and dark cave.

Rag.
#728004

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:59 pm, fulldroolcup said:

A fling, I can understand.

Eight years? That’s utter deceitfulness, and not just leading a double life, but living a lie.

I had a friend pull the same thing on his wife. When they split up, almost all of us dropped him like a stone.
#728005

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, granite said:

On June 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, Ragspierre said:

Well said.

My sentiments exactly, as the saying goes….
#728006

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, cheapseat said:

right on michelle. in the immortal words of ross perot when he was speaking of bill clinton during the debates “if his wife can’t trust him, why can you.”
#728014

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:08 pm, DagneyT said:

Haven’t these guys figured it out?

Republican infidelity = buh bye

Democrap infidelity = resume enhancement

Any questions?

Sorry I’m late to this party; life does get in the way.
#728015

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:12 pm, William said:

Again,

I am tired of the double standard.

Conservatives, Republicans are excoriated, caste out, and demonized out the wazoo by both the Conservatives AND The leftists and their mouthpieces, the main stream leftist media and Hollywood loud mouths, while the leftists-liberals-Democrats are not held to the same standard.

I am tired of it!

For that reason, unless the leftists are held to the same standard and excoriated and caste off equally, I will NOT push for punishment or shunning that the leftists are NEVER treated to!

Yes, I condemn the cheating on his wife, the lies, the taking off without proper arrangements to see to his security, but we keep condemning and eliminating the “bad guys” on our side, while the leftists don’t do the same for their thugs and liars and cheaters, but they are always ready to demonize not only the naughty Conservatives and Republicans (which are not always the same), but they NEVER have any problem with their boys and girls engaging in similar or worse behavior.

It is like shooting oneself in the foot every time we turn our back on our bad guys, while theirs still hold power, often even more power.

I want to see them all receive the same treatment, not one sided punitive treatment against Conservative or Republicans.
#728017

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pm, flmom said:

“Honor is a gift a man gives himself. No man may give it him, and no man can take it away.” (paraphrased)

Great movie. Great quote. Thanks for reminding me Rags. I would also add that those who value honor will never throw it away, no matter the temptation.
#728018

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pm, Ragspierre said:

z-troll,

Please post the ENTIRE quote from our hostess.

It is INHERENTLY deceitful to post a very partial quote of anything someone writes.

BTW, where I live, it is hot, bright, and rather dry. Like my wit.
#728019

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, Ragspierre said:

I would also add that those who value honor will never throw it away, no matter the temptation.

We all live day to day. But for any of us, if it is written deep in our hearts, to forsake honor is to truly die.

My challenge is to make it to the end, true to myself.
#728021

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, ThackerAgency said:

Sweet! Now that he’s been properly condemned, let’s continue to be a single party country.

American attitudes toward sex are poor. Powerful men in history have always had many wives. We are living longer and healthier. I think it’s time to look at polygamy as acceptable because Solomon did it.

His wife told him to leave 2 weeks ago. His own party had been attacking him. He went to the place where he got some moral and emotional support – Argentina.

I’m not trying to defend him. But I think he’ll be happier outside of politics. Why would ANYONE want to be involved in politics? I have no idea.
#728023

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, ThackerAgency said:

Not only why would anyone want to be involved in politics, why would anyone want to be in the Republican party?

Seriously. . . if the R’s hang their hat on ‘fiscal conservatism’ they fail. I’ll never be a R.

Of course, I must point out again that were he with a male lover as a homosexual, he wouldn’t be allowed to be fired under the anti-discrimination laws. It’s too bad he’s hetero because he gets the fire and brimstone of hell.
#728024

On June 24th, 2009 at 6:28 pm, a crapweasel said:

Hah I love it. I never like that weasel. I have been sick and tired of this CINO saying that Rush is wrong and should shut up. He would then turn around and say pretty much the same thing that Rush said the day before. Goodbye Loser!