No “robust debate” on amnesty
The White House shut out immigration enforcement voices from its illegal immigration summit. Sigh. The thing is, this is exactly the kind of railroading that would have occurred if John McCain had won the White House. From GOP Rep. Steve King’s office:
Congressman Steve King, the ranking member on the House Immigration Subcommittee, today reacted to this afternoon’s White House immigration summit. Despite serving as the top Republican on the House subcommittee that deals with immigration issues, Congressman King – along with other Republican enforcement first leaders – was not invited to attend the summit.
“The American people want this Administration to enforce existing immigration laws and secure our borders. A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll revealed that 74 percent of Americans believe the government is not doing enough to keep illegal immigrants from entering the country.
“The balance of the views inside the room at today’s White House immigration summit does not reflect the views of the American public. Despite overwhelming opposition to amnesty within the U.S. House of Representatives, Congressman Lamar Smith of Texas will be the lone House Republican invited who opposes comprehensive amnesty. The White House stacked the deck and packed today’s summit with amnesty advocates. President Obama wants an amnesty bill, and while cynically creating a false perception of inclusiveness and bipartisanship, brought in a group that, almost without exception, supports his vision of rewarding law breakers.
“In our current economic crisis, Americans cannot afford to lose more jobs to illegal workers. There are currently 14.5 million unemployed Americans and another six million Americans looking for a job. This is the time for the Obama administration to accelerate enforcement of immigration law to make room for unemployed Americans. For every illegal working in America, there are two Americans who need a job. American workers are depending on President Obama to protect their jobs from those illegally in America, and the majority of the American public does not support amnesty.
“By not engaging with those who disagree with his pro-amnesty views, President Obama is holding an immigration summit that gives a cold shoulder to millions of Americans. As for me, I would much rather be on the outside of the White House speaking up for the Rule of Law than on the inside going through the motions.”
Note: A Washington Post-ABC News poll showed 74 percent of Americans believe “that the government is not doing enough to keep illegal immigrants from entering the country.”
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Have Republicans been invited to any White House summits since
The Onetook office?Other than the usual token Republicans, that is.
but, but, but I thought robust debate was a good thing?
Well d’oh, what about “today’s White House,” or congress reflects anything of the American public? Z.I.P.
The Pres. is only doing whats fair, right?
Just one more thing getting rammed down our throats before we can blink.
The One will have the entire country destroyed in his first year. What is he going to do after that? Rest on his laurels? (On the 7th day He rested)
Take over the rest of the world?
What do you expect when you have a fascist dictator nd his cronies running the government….running the government into the ground….
Meantime is this pubescent
“leader” doing anything about the threatening N Korean enemy?
I have this vision of illegals crossing the border and the first thing they see is an ACORN rep holding a fistful of voter registration forms.
Debate? Haven’t you heard? Didn’t you get the memo? We do not need any debate now. Nor do we need anything remotely resembling facts, figures or statistics … the consensus is in … and that’s all I have to say about that.
WarTip – thaaaattttsss right! But we need to hurry up! It’s “it is vital” to the health and wellbeing of all Americans throughout this great land. Hurry! Hurrryyyyyyyyy!!!!!
/sarc
Maisy – He doesn’t have time to think about No Ko, he is too busy destroying this country. He’ll get around to the rest of the world next year. And if they nuke Alaska or Hawaii before then, well that’s just fewer people to provide free health care for. Not to worry.
Run Obama Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!
Can I get an Amen? LOL
Okay, maybe I just need another cup of coffee but …
Or would this more closely resemble a “Chance the Gardener” moment where he just likes to watch?
Whatever it is, it certainly looks like a bad movie … maybe more akin to Resident Evil now that I think about it … “The nightmares don’t bother me anymore. Whenever I wake up, it’s always worse.” but that would require someone to actually see what is going on around us which certainly seems to rule out anyone in this administration on either side of the political aisle.
Have “robust debate””? Not this Man Child who has never been told No in his life, who has studied at the feet of Frank Marshall Davis, attended the Sol Alinsky School, worshiped Black Liberation Theology, Friend of Ayres, beloved of the Alphabet Networks and love interest of Chris Matthews.
Amnesty may well be bad for America, the American worker, devastating to our schools, social service and hospitals but that does not matter as it is not about us-It is about him- we have entered the Cult of Personality. The Cult of Personality is an angry and hungry god as as with the gods of Canaan it demands not only obedience but sacrifice-it will be your only god.
You can wait for the knock on the door and William Ayres’ camps or get busy and resist; politically while we can by other means when that action is taken from us. No Bill of Negative Rights will stop this The One and Dear Leader.
Keep your powder dry good people.
Opinion is not fact.
So whos phone do we have to melt down?
Who’s
PIMF
Errah
I have a similar dream/nightmare but its of Americorp, Obama Peace Corps, Acorn and US Chamber of Commerce workers signing these folks up throughout central and south america so they are ready to be bused up the NAFTA Superhighway to new Obama ReEmployment Camps throughout the US.
Heard of McCain-Kennedy?
Opinion? It’s a fact. Mcamnesty and obummer have the same opinion on this issue (one contrary to the vast majority of Americans). Have you forgotten all the “biggot” and “nativists” etc remarks from mcamensty and his marry band of amensty supporters?
Its amazing to me that this even keeps being brought up. The American public made it loud and clear that they want enforcement and tougher border protections 2 times. But these sleaze pols keep trotting it out there hoping they can ram it through before anyone can speak up. Amensty will be the death knell for this country. It isn’t 6-8M as they say. It will be 30M (mark my words), combined with a rush of more to get in on it, then a wave of “family reunification” immigrants (which was about 3 to 1 from the 1986 amensty), followed by a new illegal immigraiotn wave waiting for their citizenship. We will grow our population over 100M in a decade, made up primarily of uneducated/illiterate people who will require government assistance. This is a disaster if it goes through. The answer to this cancer is ELIMINATE THE MAGNETS (no jobs, no welfare, no anchor babies as a start) that draw and keep them here. ATTRITION will become the norm and those here will leave over time and others will not come as there is no advantage for them. It will take decades to fully heal the problem but it took decades to get to the sad state we are in now. It is not the false dichotomy of choices of amnesty or mass deportaion as the open borders nuts claim.
‘nuther mutual admiration society for great leader…
FYI…it is whose. Nice try.
I think this has already begun to an extent as jobs become more scarce. Though I daresay I do wonder how many illegal alien invaders (as opposed to legal immigrants) make up the current welfare roles. As our economy and way of life continue to erode and America begins looking more and more like the place they are leaving, substantially fewer will want to risk the journey or the costs of coming here.
Somehow I doubt that this is the administration’s goal but I do think it will happen … and it certainly is not a substitute for protecting our borders.
For those even remotely interested in the subject matter…
Former CO Gov. Richard Lamm’s “I Have A Plan to Destroy America” speech (largely inspired by Victor Davis Hanson’s work “Mexifornia”) -
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
Section VII is particularly applicable in this current context: “Then I would place all these subjects off limits – make it taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century – that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’, ‘xenophobe’ that halts argument and conversation.”
Remember… NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS EVER STOPPED FUTURE ILLEGAL ALIENS FROM COMING TO THE U.S.
White House: 202-456-1414
Congress Main Line: 202-224-3121
Call early and often.
PS. Don’t tell the trolls, Richard Lamm was/is (?) a Democrat – hehehehehe.
These a$$hats are not listening to the people who got them to DC. In fact, they seem to be doing the exact opposite on every issue. They are power-mad and have lost all their perspective and principles. Socialized health-care, illegal immigration run amok, cap and trade based on fraudulent information. And Obama wants to ram all of these things down our throats this year before we can lock and load and take to the streets. Personally, I don’t have anything to lock and load, but I do have a good supply of pitchforks, polished and ready. These criminals have to be stopped before there is no more America left to save.
Just stealing the jobs Americans used to have … I bet that will be a big seller in the public.
Folks, give up the idea of debate, robust or otherwise, on anything this administration takes it in its head to ram down our throats or into any other orifice. Remember the mantra “Elections have consequences”? Well, we’ve just begun to see the fulfillment of that truth. Unless we can turn out some D’s next year, it’ll only get worse. It wasn’t O’s win over McCain that did this to us, BTW, it was the loss of any viable power in either House or Senate. With Pilosi and Reid in charge, and His Highness in the WH, we’re toast. So you independents who voted for this abomination, how’s hope and change working out for ya?
If you want to go after the ‘no robust debate’ issue of all of this, go after the person who is actually responsible. His name is Obama. The McCain boogeyman is gone. He wasn’t elected president, you won. Congratulations.
So, in a spirited effort to produce an environment for creating millions of new jobs that will trigger a robust economic recovery, the government will unleash an army of 20-30 million of the world’s poorest and least skilled non-English-speaking people into the American work force to overwhelm our social programs and drive wages down even further.
Let’s see now: a stagnating economy, declining wages (especially on the lower end of the employment chain), commodity-driven inflation…
Brilliant!!!! I’m sure our poorest will appreciate the increased competition from even poorer people. Time to invest in sweat shops and stoop labor plantations.
NumbersUSA / Roy Beck’s excellent “Gumballs” video regarding immigration, American (US) demographics, population growth, etc.
US Population Clock (from US Census Bureau): Current (Est.) Pop Here
(Do you know what the current US population is today? You might be surprised)
Wartip said:
Yep, which is proof that the magnets should be the target.
A large protion of illegals have anchor babies (misinterpretation of the 14th amendment), which makes them eligible for CHIPS, food stamps, free education, etc. Even if they don’t, it is not hard to game the system and get them. But you bring up a good point about legal immigrants on welfare. That alone shows the complete stupidity of our current immigration system. How in the world is an uneducated/illiterate person going to benefit a modern technological society? They are simply draining resources. Legal immigration should be based on the value that immigrant brings to the US, not the other way around. We want eudcated, talented, intelligent, hard working individuals to immigrate here. But it makes no sense to bring in someone who is not a net producer. We encourage lesser quality immigrants to come here becasuse they can live off the gov’t and have a better life here than they would have working in their own country. There is no risk.
I have seen this argument from open borders nuts. “Illegal immigration will stop naturally as the quality of life equalizes”. Yea, in other words, when our quality of life is equivalent to that of the 3rd world country, they will stop coming. The stupidity in that logic is unfathomable.
I didn’t vote for Obama, because I read his books, and knew what he wanted to do.
But I didn’t vote for McCain, either, and things are working for me just about like I though they would. Since both candidates were apparently bent on socialism, I figured we might as well send the country into a high-speed descent. I voted for Baldwin, btw.
If McCain had voted against TARP he’d be president today.
McCain didn’t deserve my vote. I do not regret holding the GOP accountable for acting like Democrats.
You might want to look at your agenda and see what actually drove people away from the neoconservative messages if you want to win elections again.
Bush let us down, but he at least pretended to be a conservative when he ran. McCain didn’t even bother to do that.
Thanks for asking!
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
T. Roosevelt
(I highlighted the most important word in the quote above for added emphasis)
lib-eral translation…
we’ll let that republican in but gag him at the door…there, we had a robust debate…
It isn’t just that they are stealing jobs. Many employers are or will be enthusiastically giving them jobs when and where they can get away with it, which should be easy with TEH ONE’s administration diliberate lack of immigration enforcement.
This is why Congressional elections matter. But hey, I understand: the focus was on beating Obama at any cost, to include supporting the likes of McCain. Worked out well, didn’t it?
Shut up White Boy!!!!
That should be a bumper sticker for all the nose-holding Republicans who can’t expand their minds to encompass why we vote. Independents and conservatives didn’t fail, NOSE-HOLDING REPUBLICANS failed.
Come up with a better plan next time. Here’s a suggestion: stand for something!
For those, “you didn’t vote for mccain so you voted for obama” republican worshipers, tell me how mcamnesty is any different on illegal immigration? Name one factual difference. Mcamnesty would sign any amnesty that came across his desk.
MarcoPolo, same here.
It can’t be argued because he admitted it during the campaign.
3rd.
can anyone out there think of one plan where someone rewarded bad behavior and didn’t see a rise in the incidents of that bad behavior. AFDC rewarded bastard children, and we are up to our a$$ in bastards including the POTUS. reagan’s congress rewarded illegal aliens in the 80’s and today we are up to our a$$ in them. hospitals charge the states for people who walk in the emergency room with no ability to pay and taxpayers pay for that, so we are up to our a$$ in uninsured citizens and noncitizens. we don’t charge mexico et al for housing their thugs in our prisons, so we are up to our a$$ in them. if you can think of one program that rewarded bad behavior which didn’t lead to more and more bad behavior please enlighten me. put on the beenie lgm.
You are absolutely correct. It is the exact opposite of the correct action. But that is the liberal MO. Somehow their twisted logic ends with policies in direct opposition to the problem they are trying to solve. One example, they are the champions of the environemnt and castigate poeple’s impact on the envionment (fair enough). However, at the same time they push for higher levels of immigration and amnesty. The 2 policies are in direct coflict.
The amnesty issue defines what is the core problem with the “new” GOP. Fearing they out of the loop with a Hispanic constituency that they expect to redefine America into a permanent leftist society, a constituency which they perceive as being genetically incapable of embracing conservative principles, they cut a deal with La Raza thus selling everyone out.
Now they are at war with us and resorting to the same lame lies that the most liberal Dems use when castigating conservatives as being bigots and backwards looking.
Well it turns out that not only do most Americans demand border control, so do most Mexican-Americans. The GOP has foolishly sold its soul to the devil and now blames conservatives, the only people left fighting for the traditional freedoms that most Americans still want.
GOP-RIP.
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Houston police officer shot and killed by an illegal alien. Again.
Whatever makes you feel better. I don’t see how such sentiments are grounded in facts though: Obama clobbered McCain by around 8.5 million votes. All of the other candidates besides Obama/McCain brought in a whopping 1,643,758 votes. There seems to be a remainder here.