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1. #1
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:44 pm, corkie said:

   Is this the Congressional version of a hail Mary pass?

2. #2
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, committed said:

   Is this a “tell me what you want for your state and I’ll put it in for your vote” manuever???

3. #3
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, in_awe said:

   I have exhausted my knowledge of synonyms for disgust in the past 6 months. How did it ever get to this point where our elected representatives have assumed and justified their total control of our lives?

4. #4
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, rcool487 said:

   Michelle: To some of us young ones, can you please explain what a “placeholder” is? Thank you so much for keeping me up to date on this travesty.

5. #5
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, Durangodarlin said:

   This isn’t the kind of government we want and deserve. And it certainly wasn’t the type of government intended by the founding fathers.

6. #7
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, mattm said:

   Are the morons who sat it out to teach the GOP a lesson happy now?

   Keep up the calls.

7. #8
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, sonofdy said:

   waxman on the house floor:

   SANKE OIL, GET YOUR SNAKE OIL HERE!!!!

8. #9
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, walterc said:

   Durangodarlin said:

   This isn’t the kind of government we want and deserve. And it certainly wasn’t the type of government intended by the founding fathers.

   Unless you’re talking about the Soviet Union founding fathers.

9. #10
   On June 26th, 2009 at 2:51 pm, rightisright said:

   dems/libs have no morals, NONE!

10. #11
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:51 pm, walterc said:

    To paraphrase Michelle O, for the first time in my life I’m afraid for my Country.

11. #12
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, sonofdy said:

    A placeholder seems to be a bit in the bill that says, extra law will be inserted here after the vote. Am I right? I have never heard the term before.

12. #13
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, rightisright said:

    for the 1st time in my life, I’m afraid of my country.

13. #14
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, sonofdy said:

    2:49pm: Corruptocrat Rangel chastises Republicans and praises horse-trading, deal-trading on the floor. “This vote will be remembered by the world.”

    Got that right.

14. #15
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    From Redstate:
    Democrats are starting a rumor that they’ve yanked cap and trade from the floor. I’m hearing it is a ruse. They are short votes and stalling to get more.

15. #17
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, Adlib said:

    “This vote will be remembered by the world.”

    Uh huh, but just as another nail in the coffin of the economy.

16. #18
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, flmom said:

    “This vote will be remembered by the world.”

    More important, Mr. Rangel, it will most definitely be remembered by we the people.

17. #19
    On June 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the U.N. —
    13 times the number who authored the U.N.’s 2007 climate summary for policymakers.
    Joanne Simpson, the world’s first woman to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology, expressed relief upon her retirement last year that she was finally free to speak “frankly” of her nonbelief. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, a Japanese environmental physical chemist who contributed to a U.N. climate report, dubs man-made warming “the worst scientific scandal in history.” Norway’s Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for physics, decries it as the “new religion.” A group of 54 noted physicists, led by Princeton’s Will Happer, is demanding the American Physical Society revise its position that the science is settled. (Both Nature and Science magazines have refused to run the physicists’ open letter.)

18. #20
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, rcool487 said:

    A placeholder seems to be a bit in the bill that says, extra law will be inserted here after the vote. Am I right? I have never heard the term before.

    Thanks! I’m guessing, from the context, that is correct.
    This whole thing is disgusting. Although, it makes me want to get more involved as well.

19. #22
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pm, spaceycakes said:

    “This vote will be remembered by the world.”

    It will rank right up there with ‘not guilty’ on the first OJ Simpson murder trial.

20. #23
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pm, kimsch said:

    Who decided that “carbon” is the bad guy? All life on this planet is carbon based. The most valuable gemstone is compressed carbon. It’s just so weird…

21. #24
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pm, st_james said:

    John Larson CT – what a jackass, Not supporting this bill is supporting terrorism by increasing the dependence on foreign oil? How about you Dems get the hell out of the way and let us start tapping our own resources!

22. #26
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, bjc said:

    *There will be hell to pay in 2010 and 2012 if this Wacky-Marxist Bill passes; My Rep. will vote yes in spite of overwhelming opposition from his constituents; All of them need to be targeted for removal in 2010, whatever it takes in time, money, and effort.
    *Worst part is, all this over the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind; Hey Owl Bore, it’s the sun, stupid!

23. #27
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, taylork said:

    Barton notes that this is unprecedented. He can’t recall any final passage of a bill that has a placeholder in it.

    So there voting on a bill with a big “insert whatever you’d like after the vote here” space in it?

    That can’t be constitutional.

24. #29
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, cheapseat said:

    it has always been way more easy to buy democrat legislators votes than actually convince the public the value of your convictions. the unions buy votes to expand unionism when they know the people are leaving unions behind. the gay/lesbian groups buy dems to pass laws they know the public will never stand for. the environmentalists – ditto. come on down and bring your party favors (CBC trip to caribean)(john conyers wife’s bribe) (charlie rangle and john murtha and william jefferson and …

25. #30
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, taylork said:

    er, they’re voting on a bill…

26. #31
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “Joe, don’t tell me you bought the Brooklyn Bridge?!!” “Of course not… that was sold last week.”
    - Moe and Joe (QUIZ WHIZZ, 1958)

27. #32
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, Last Massachusetts Conservative said:

    I do not know what a “placeholder” is either. Unfortunately I suspect it means something devious like a group of democrats can come back into session during the middle of the night and resume deliveration at the “placeholder” then pass the bill with a majority.

28. #33
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “We all put the yeast in!”
    - Moe, Larry, and Curly (BEER BARREL POLECATS, 1946)

29. #34
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, committed said:

    MSM home page states that the bill passes in a test vote.

30. #35
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, sonofdy said:

    That can’t be constitutional.

    and????

    You forget, the dems run congress right now.

31. #36
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, committed said:

    217-205

32. #37
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Add Salazar of Colorado to that list. I spoke with his office about 20 minutes ago, they told me he doesn’t know how he is going to vote. Argh.

33. #38
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “I’m waitin’ for the dressin’ and cranberry sauce.”
    - Curly (IDIOTS DELUXE, 1945)

34. #39
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:24 pm, corkie said:

    Overwrought Dem. Rep. John Larson inveighs against sucking up to Saudi Arabia.

    This is the problem with liberals. They think, ‘we shouldn’t suck up to Saudi Arabia therefore we need to vote for this bill.’

    Why can’t they see that this bill won’t prevent any sucking up?!?!?

35. #40
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:25 pm, guitarguy said:

    Not one goddamned spine, nor a pair of balls in the entire room!

36. #41
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, NJRepublican said:

    Placeholder – talk about writing a blank check!!! WTF???!!!

37. #42
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, committed said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:24 pm, corkie said:
    Overwrought Dem. Rep. John Larson inveighs against sucking up to Saudi Arabia.
    This is the problem with liberals. They think, ‘we shouldn’t suck up to Saudi Arabia therefore we need to vote for this bill.’

    Why can’t they see that this bill won’t prevent any sucking up?!?!?

    Could it be because they’re not smart enough to figure it out??? Just look at Pelosi.

38. #43
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    To the fair queen of the fiesta (Pelosi), I dedicate this bull… and I do mean bull.”
    - Curly (WHAT’S THE MATADOR?, 1942)

39. #44
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    It doesn’t help when FOX NEWS spends every single second on pedophile Michael Jackson and adulterer Governor Sanford. How is anyone in America suppose to know the details of this scam being slammed through Congress? It’s bad enough Geraldo Rivera is given endless slots to babble about death, destruction and promoting illegal alien Hispanics. I’m sick of watching Fox News. It’s nothing more than E! Entertainment channel. The time has come for a REAL news organization to rise for Conservatives.

40. #45
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, committed said:

    Might I also add that these are the kind of people that can’t pour water out of a boot without the instructions on the heel.

41. #46
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:30 pm, kimsch said:

    war for oil! war for oil! sheesh.

42. #47
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:30 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “This looks screwy enough to be good.”
    - John Tyrrell (LOCO BOY MAKES GOOD, 1942)

43. #48
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, kimsch said:

    more hurricanes! worse weather! climate change! global warming! the sky is falling!

44. #49
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, committed said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, committed said:
    Might I also add that these are the kind of people that can’t pour water out of a boot without the instructions on the heel.

    What I meant to say was they couldn’t pour water out of a boot WITH the instructions on the heel.

    Heard that one my entire childhood. LOL

45. #50
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:32 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    These people are a disgrace.
    
    “This vote will be remembered by the world.”

    You’re right about that Rangel. If this doesn’t wake up America, I really don’t know what will. Look at what these crooked, lie-spewing, two-faced pieces of human filth are doing.

46. #51
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:32 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “As minister of propaganda, I wanna report that the people —” “I am not INTERESTED in the PEOPLE!”
    - Larry and Moe (I’LL NEVER HEIL AGAIN, 1941)

47. #52
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    none of these congressional morons has read the entire bill….none of these congressional morons is a scientist, few if any are economists of any repute, and none are in touch with the average American citizen and what it will mean to their bottom line!! With rare exception throw all the bums out in 2010 and then start impeachment hearings on dear leader….

48. #53
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:34 pm, committed said:

    I just got an email from Newsmax that Pelosi wants a vote today because she plans to go on vacation this weekend.

49. #54
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “Oh… a simple job for simple people.”
    - Curly (A PLUMBING WE WILL GO, 1940)

50. #56
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, Cadman said:

    Michelle – thanks for the updating, keep it up.

51. #57
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    From MM’s linked article by Ben Lieberman.

    What this costs, and this is likely a low ball number.

    Further, it looks like China and India’s gov’t possess much more sense in this area.

    If you look at the total cost of Waxman-Markey, it works out to an average of $2,979 annually from 2012-2035 for a household of four. By 2035 alone, the total cost is over $4,600.

    Beyond the cost impact on individuals and households, Waxman-Markey also affects employment, and especially employment in the manufacturing sector. We estimate job losses averaging 1,145,000 at any given time from 2012-2035. And note that those are net job losses, after the much-hyped green jobs are taken into account. Some of the lost jobs will be destroyed entirely, while others will be outsourced to nations like China and India that have repeatedly stated that they’ll never hamper their own economic growth with energy-cost boosting global warming measures like Waxman-Markey.

52. #58
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, xler8bmw said:

    I have been watching the debate and I am telling you, you can’t buy comedy like this!

53. #59
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Fox just reported that it passed.

    217 to 205

    I may run to Walmart for beans & rice. It’s all I can afford to feed my kids after my utilities DOUBLE!!!

54. #60
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, Hangfire said:

    The religion of Human-Caused Global Warming will pass like Mithraism.

    Cap and Trade is being passed, not because of environmental concerns, but because it advances the Globalist Agenda. It is grossly unfair for the United States to prosper while countries like Angola and Somalia languish, in the minds of the annoited.

    All genuflect to Al Gore. Mission accomplished, bastard.

55. #61
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, frontierguy said:

    I read also that Nancy wants to go on vacation this weekend, so let’s get this straight…. She wants a vote on a bill that will cough/cough “save the planet” but has the engines for her jet warming up to carry her off to a relaxing weekend? In other words, you sheeple will cut back on energy, but not me. This woman is pure evil. I really cannot stand her. If she were republican, she would not have her job seeing as she lies through her teeth, gets caught then gets to shelve the whole thing with the lapdog media. My blood is boiling.

56. #63
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, committed said:

    One might think that Americans would rise up in arms in this kind of situation. But since Roosevelt, they have become addicted to government handouts and acquiesced in the constant erosion of their property and many other rights, so they probably won’t. They probably will just learn again to read by candlelight and shiver in the cold while awaiting Big Brother’s next pronouncement. After all, many of them were there on Nov. 4, 2008.

    http://www.energyblogs.com/Causey/index.cfm/2009/2/27/The-other-shoe-just-dropped

57. #64
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “What are you shakin’ about?” “I don’t know – I’m in a hurry all over!”
    - Moe and Curly (3 DUMB CLUCKS, 1937)

58. #65
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:45 pm, kimsch said:

    rightwingmom – they’re still debating, how could it have passed?

59. #66
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:45 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    xler8bmw said:

    I have been watching the debate and I am telling you, you can’t buy comedy like this!

    The only couple of bright light here are, that could mean some desperation on the part of the Dems.

    And some bills that make it through the house are stopped dead in the Senate. But it would be better if the GOP did what was needed to make those undecideds all No’s.

    Hell, Waxman’s bribing them openly. Make them a better offer. Whatever they have to do.

60. #67
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:45 pm, xler8bmw said:

    Severities should be dealt out all at once, so that their suddenness may give less offense; benefits ought to be handed ought drop by drop, so that they may be relished the more.
    Niccolo Machiavelli

61. #68
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    ‘Would you fight for this great Republic, and…” “Republican?! Naw, I’m a Democrat!” “Not me!! I’m a pedestrian!”
    - Edward LeSaint, Moe and Curly (HALF-SHOT SHOOTERS, 1936)

62. #69
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, xler8bmw said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, rightwingmom said:

    That was the dem TEST vote. they’re still debating

63. #70
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    And this from the same article…

    Overall, Waxman-Markey reduces gross domestic product by an average of $393 billion annually between 2012 and 2035, and cumulatively by $9.4 trillion. In other words, the nation will be $9.4 trillion poorer with Waxman-Markey than without it.

64. #71
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pm, SnowyOwl said:

    Democrat Rep. Tim Ryan just invoked 9/11 in support of cap and trade.

    Left approves of exploiting 9/11 for national energy tax.

    Simply disgusting.

    I work in Youngstown OH – the dying heart of Ryan’s district. Cap-and-trade is a great way to destroy whatever chance the Mahoning Valley ever had of making an economic comeback.

    I doubt he cares. He loves big pork (he’s involved somehow in the lobbyist scandal that also involves Murtha). His sheeple would vote for Satan as long as he had a D after his name.

    To quote Ryan’s predecessor, “Beam me up”

65. #72
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Where was the morality since 1945 when the US Departments of Energy and Defense dumped tons of chemical and radioactive waste in our rivers and on Land. How do I know? I worked as an environmental contractor on cleaning up these sites. I saw the report of dumping. Tonawanda, NY, St. Louis Airport, Handford, WA,;, Fernald Ohio, Middlesex , NJ. the list goes on and on. If the government is so concerned about our environment, Why were these cesspools allowed to happen?? Don’t pick up that morality torch now..all you are looking for is more tax money to spend. Complete fakes. I say BS to this Government.

66. #73
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, Hangfire said:

    Note to self:

    Buy more 7.7mm rounds and 20-ga. shells
    on the way home.

67. #74
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “Is it honest work?” “Does it make any difference?!!!” “No, no… no difference.”
    - Al Thompson, Larry, Moe & Curly (THREE LITTLE PIGSKINS, 1934)

68. #75
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, Cadman said:

    Hangfire –

    Dont forget the razor wire to string around your propane tank in the backyard.

69. #76
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, Hangfire said:

    Note to self:

    Fill propane tank.

70. #77
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, cabrerski said:

    2:57pm: Dem Rep Levin calls cap-and-trade a “moral imperative.” What would these thieves & sneaks know about moral imperatives?

    What really urinates me is that Rep. Levin is supposed to beholden to his constituents and balance that against the good of the country. He wants to include the entire planet in his “moral” stand.

    So tell us, Levin…are China, Russia, and India passing similar simultaneous legislation to grind their economies to a halt? Levin or is it Lenin? Anyone home?

71. #78
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pm, kimsch said:
    

    Who decided that “carbon” is the bad guy? All life on this planet is carbon based. The most valuable gemstone is compressed carbon. It’s just so weird…

    It’s not about carbon.
    It’s about control.

    Carbon is just the excuse being used to turn control over from capitalist countries to Socialist/Communist ones.

    This revolution never ended and we must remain vigilant.

72. #79
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “I’ll explain everything.” “Yeah, Mullins will explain it. Then we’ll bring in an interpreter to go over it!” [Slap!]
    - Ted Healy and Curly (MYRT AND MARGE, 1933)

73. #80
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:52 pm, Hangfire said:

    If I string razor wire, I won’t get to expend the rounds.

74. #81
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:53 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I cannot believe this is happening to my country. I have said it many times before. There has already been a revolution in American and the federal government has overthrown our constitution.

75. #82
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:55 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    TheToySurgeon: It’s not -really- about the enviroment, as I’m guessing you may suspect. It’s about beating down America…(should I spell that america now Dems?)… so the world can see how contrite we are.

    This goes along well with Obama’s willingness to bend over and squeal like a pig in front of any foreign leader, excepting Netanyahu that is.

76. #83
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:55 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Good luck, Hangfire.

77. #84
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, spaceycakes said:

    note to self: ask sonofdy about used flamethrower.

78. #85
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:57 pm, libertybelle said:

    NORM DICKS IS VOTING YES! I just spoke with his DC office and got YELLED at and insulted by his staffer. No joke. Take him off the undecided list. He is a YES.

79. #86
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, Hangfire said:

    I will get sick of beanie-weenies and rice.

80. #87
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, kimsch said:

    more hurricanes! worse weather! climate change! global warming! the sky is falling!

    And they (Demonrats) have the audacity to accuse Republicans of fear mongering!

81. #88
    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I just spoke with his DC office and got YELLED at and insulted by his staffer.

    O NO U DI-dunt!

82. #89
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    libertybelle said:

    NORM DICKS IS VOTING YES! I just spoke with his DC office and got YELLED at and insulted by his staffer. No joke. Take him off the undecided list. He is a YES.

    If I am ever blessed with the opportunity to meet the man, I’ll be sure to knock some of his teeth out for you.

83. #90
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:01 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    14 undecided you say? I have more contempt for the weakling and coward than the enemy who stands and fights. Cowards serve no useful purpose.

    Win or lose on this issue the Fascist hold power–the traitor and coward are a knife at our throat ready to open the gates of the city to the enemy horde.

    Bendict Arnold, the Undecided and RINOs–America’s unholy trinity.

    —
    Note to self:

    What Hangfire said.

84. #91
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Hangfire said:

    Note to self:

    Sell the Jag.

85. #92
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, California Red said:

    Tausher is dancing around the fact that they are passing legislation without making the 300 pages available to see what they are voting on. “The chair is not responsible for disseminating the documents.”

86. #93
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, spaceycakes said:

    note to self:

    ask Hangfire if I can get a deal on the Jag.

87. #94
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, WarTip said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, NJ-Aviator said: If you look at the total cost of Waxman-Markey, it works out to an average of $2,979 annually from 2012-2035 for a household of four. By 2035 alone, the total cost is over $4,600.

    Those figures do not take into consideration hyper-inflation or the increased interest rates that are soon to come. Remember the seventies? Can you say “Walk in the park”?

    This is going to get real ugly.

    On June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, rightwingmom said: I may run to Walmart for beans & rice. It’s all I can afford to feed my kids after my utilities DOUBLE!!!

    If you have an Asian store around you somewhere, you should be able to get 25 and 50 pound sacks of rice. Last time I was in the states, a 25 pound sack cost me less than 13 bucks there and it was about a buck a pound or more in the grocery store.

88. #96
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, kimsch said:

    we won’t let you see those 300 pages, so there!

89. #97
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, Hangfire said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, spaceycakes said:
    note to self:

    ask Hangfire if I can get a deal on the Jag.

    Jags are like boats….

    The happiest day of your life is when you buy your first boat, and the second happiest day is when you sell it.

90. #98
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    Wowza! No one has a copy of the 300 page amendment?!?

91. #99
    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, Zippy_Slug said:

    I must apologize for the morons in TX-18 for Queen Sheela.. We’ll try to rid her next election.

    Meanwhile here is the 300 page amendment which nobody can find.

    ht: Newt’s twitter

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    On June 26th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I’m just kidding, Hangfire–unless it’s an E-type w/a straight 8