Cap and tax liveblog: Democrats limit debate, stampede toward national energy tax

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 26, 2009 09:38 AM


STAMPEDE!

Scroll for continuous updates…there will be 3 hours of general debate and a grand total of 1 GOP amendment…

9:36am: GOP Rep. Pete Sessions is on the House floor right now blasting Dems, who just moved to limit debate. It’s “unacceptable” and “undemocratic,” says Sessions. Proposals to protect farmers and agriculture won’t be considered. Sessions recounts meetings at 2am, being handed massive, new 300-page amendment. “No one has read this bill.”

“Why are we rushing to do this with a trillion dollar spending plan that will result in killing jobs and make it more difficult for us to come out of recession?”

9:57am: Dem. Rep Castor claims this mad-rush boondoggle will “bolster science.” (Insert bitter laughter). Channels all the previous apocalpytic rhetoric swilled before every bailout: “What if we don’t act!? We can’t afford not to act?!”

Chicken Little with a green coat.

10:02am: GOP Rep. Pence blasts “embarrassingly short” debate on behemoth bill. Says there are reports that there are new trade restriction in the bill, but who knows. No has read the bill. The way the bill is coming to the floor should be disturbing to every American. Last night at 3:00am, House Dems filed 309-page amendment and denied 224 GOP amendments. Three hours, 1 amendment filed. What’s the hurry? What are we hiding – that we can’t afford more time for Americans to examine what’s in the bill? What’s in it? Corporate welfare? Special provisions to placate members? Majority just denied us one additional minute of debate?! This is not Congress! I don’t know what this is…a travesty!

Pence also mentioned that Dems shaved another minute from the GOP’s time.

10:14am: Crikey. Sheila Jackson Lee is babbling about “getting the carbon out of the air.”

10:20am: GOP Rep. Biggert talks about the five amendments that she proposed and Dems rejected. Calls attention to national building codes.

10:22am: Dem Rep. Quigley preaches cult of global warming science. Says there are no contrary studies. Gee, I wonder why: Ask Alan Carlin!

10:24am: GOP Rep. Marsha Blackburn: We are the party of KNOW. We want the people to KNOW what’s in this bill! You go, girl.

10:38am: Philip Kerpen at AFP says Dems. Ortiz and Mollohan are now no votes.

Another prominent fence-sitter: Blue Dog Dem Chair Allen Boyd.

The pay-offs:

More than a dozen Democratic members of the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Coalition were not ready to back the bill as of Thursday, many of them concerned with the rising utility prices that would result.

“The most important thing is what impact it is going to have on our constituents in their daily lives,” said Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Fla., who is co-chairman of the Blue Dogs and undecided on the bill.

Boyd said he has fielded calls from White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. “He wants it done,” Boyd said.

Democrats have cut numerous deals to get them as close as they are now, the most recent concessions made to win over members of the House Committee on Agriculture, whose chairman, Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn., agreed to back the bill only after negotiators agreed to put in place provisions favorable to farmers and those growing corn for the production of ethanol.

Even with those changes, Boyd said, “I’m not sure it helped as much as everyone thought it would.”

But the bill has come closer to passage than most expected even a week ago, when Peterson was leading more than 40 Democrats in opposition to the bill.

That number has been whittled down considerably, said Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Colo., “because of the tenacity of the speaker and the commitment of the president.”

***

11:52am: Don’t give up. It’s close. The latest:

House Democrats narrowly won an important test vote Friday on groundbreaking legislation to combat global warming and usher in a new era of cleaner energy. Republican opponents said it included the largest tax increase ever.

The vote was 217-205 to send the White House-backed legislation to the full House. Thirty Democrats defected, reflecting the deep divisions over the plan. Supporters and opponents agree it mean higher energy costs, but they disagree widely on the impact on consumers.

12:25pm: Human Events reporter Connie Hair reports that Dems do not have votes yet.

Phone a fence-sitter!

1:03pm: Ed Markey just finished blubbering about a future where gas stations are gone and all our children plug, uh, er, their cars, uh, er, in, utilizing, the electricity, for which to power their, uh, er, cars.

The nation is in such hands.

2:06pm: Rep. Anthony Weiner argues that if you don’t hurry up and pass cap and trade, you support the terrorists.

Nice to see the Left rediscover the word “terrorist.”

GOP Rep. Rohrbacher follows. “If this passes, jobs will go to China and economy will go to hell.”

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  1. #1
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am, iamsaved said:

    If Americans aren’t outraged by these tactics then this Republic is lost.

    Who can defend voting on a bill that risks so much in the lives of every day Americans without first reading it?

    A pox on both houses – (and the White one)

  2. #2
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am, stillontheroad said:

    They want a continuing,perpetual recession. How else can they control the population, toe the line, you get freebies, don’t toe the line you are out in the street.

  3. #3
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am, beachmom said:

    I just called Chellie Pingree’s office (d-ME) and asked if she is going to read Henry Waxman’s 300 pg. amendment that he just added this morning. Ha! They had the nerve to tell me she will. Who can read 300 pages of gobbldeygook in a morning and understand it well enough to vote on it?
    She is a dyed in the wool liberal who’s mom is the pres. of our legislature here in the People’s Socialist Republic of Maine.
    I told her aide that this huge tax increase will be remembered come the next election.
    Like libs care. But, oh well, I know I’ve done my part.

  4. #4
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:46 am, granite said:

    I know this is off-topic; but, it is somewhat related, since this cap-and-trade insanity is part of the dangerous, evil, reckless idiocy the socialists are tyrannically trying to force upon us as they strive to destroy our economy, nation, culture, society, and way of life:

    At this link at Atlas Shrugs:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/state-dept-urges-us-embassies-worldwide-are-being-advised-to-purchase-massive-amounts-of-local-curre.html

    State Dept Urges “U.S. embassies worldwide” to “purchase massive amounts of local currencies; enough to last them a year”

    More troubling news afoot. Is US Dept of State Advising Some Embassies To Obtain Year’s Worth of Local Currencies? If so, why? Does it expect a dollar collapse in the next 4-6 months? (hat tip TC)

  5. #5
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:46 am, Huskergirl said:

    This is a HUGE story. And what does Foxnews have as their lead story? And what did they have on all of last night’s coverage? Michael Jackson. You’ve got to be kidding me! People who don’t pay attention more than day to day won’t even know this is going to be voted on today unless we all tell them!

  6. #6
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:49 am, mgraves said:

    Welcome to the grand finale of the free-market apacolypse. Watch your favortie economic freedoms go up in smoke…figuratively of course unless you literally want to watch them go up in smoke, and if that is the case be prepared to pay taxes on it.

  7. #7
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am, mgraves said:

    This is a HUGE story. And what does Foxnews have as their lead story? And what did they have on all of last night’s coverage? Michael Jackson.

    To borrow a page from the nutty leftists who constantly drummed up conspiracy theories to claim Bush was attempting to distract from the issues…do you think its possible Obama sent Rahm to whack MJ to distract us all?

  8. #8
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am, sonofdy said:

    I am suprised we got 3 hours of “debate”

  9. #9
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am, iamsaved said:

    Michael Jackson or the future of our country and way of life – doesn’t seem like a difficult choice to make but apparaently it is for a great number of people.

    Michael Jackson was a talented, troubled individual who had his demons to contend with. He may or may not be at peace now. He’s gone the way of all living things. It’s time to move on and concern ourselves with the living.

  10. #10
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am, Misscheryl said:

    AS long as we can still vote in 2010, 2012 and into the future, we aren’t done yet.

  11. #11
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am, stillontheroad said:

    I just can’t understand the always misdirection when something critical is going to happen. Every single media outlet does it.

  12. #12
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:56 am, iamsaved said:

    Watch the ticker on this speed up if this insane climate bill passes…

  13. #13
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, stillontheroad said:

    Has anyone else heard wether or not Tom Daschle actually said as old people, it is their duty to die and not be such a drain on the health care system! I heard some people talking bout this at work today.

  14. #14
    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, st_james said:

    Strange co-incidence that M.J. dies on the night before this bill… I’m starting a 6-25 truther blog over at 625truthers.org. We’ll get to the bottom of this!

  15. #15
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am, beachmom said:

    I just emailed Fox News and told them that it is very sad and shocking that M. Jackson has died but that an entire night and now morning is enough coverage. I reminded them that cap and tax will affect our taxes and freedoms and that as sad as Jackson’s passing is, it will not affect either of those.

    americasnewsroom@foxnews.com

  16. #16
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Like it or not death is cheaper than health care to keep people alive.

    If this bill passes following the process that is currently in place and apparently going to be followed isn’t this one of the kinds of legislations that could be headed to court regarding its constitutionality? This impacts some big players out there, utility companies, who have the deep pockets needed for a run to the Supreme Court. If some of these new “laws” can be over turned that sure would squelch some of the momentum the left thinks it has…

  17. #17
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:03 am, WarTip said:

    I just wonder what our beloved socialists will do when China begins laying claims to all of the “troubled assets” that secure its purchase of American debts. Will we still have to worry about the American government when others are openly invited into our realm? What about all of the constitutional rights bestowed upon non-citizens by virtue of our congress critters? How about the new Russian bases in Venezuela and Cuba?

    The problem has started with government inefficiency and bloated bureaucratic bastards screwing us at every turn but where does it end? Methinks that ultimately what remains of our government may not be the only problem we face when this is all played out. A scant year ago I would have believed such nonsense to be conspiratorial at best and delusional at worst … but these days?

  18. #18
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:03 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I just emailed Fox News”

    Me too. I was sick of it by yesterday afternoon.

  19. #19
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am, flmom said:

    beachmom said:

    You are echoing what I said last night, Fox news spent all night from 5pm on Michael Jackson, zero on this grab for tax bill. I am incensed! The only thing that will get people’s attention on this is when it hits their pockets. Bring it on, I say, maybe the sheeple will start to wake up. The Aussies are already rethinking their own cap and trade bill, after only a few weeks.

  20. #20
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am, Ron said:

    How anyone could vote Democrat completely baffles me. Are Democrat voters insane, stupid, or both? Why on God’s earth would ANYONE support a tax on carbon dioxide, a naturally occurring and essential gas? Man-made global warming is a friggin’ HOAX! Real science has already clearly debunked this nonsense, but the Gorebots don’t want to hear it (la-la-la, can’t HEAR you!). You talk about polarization in this country, Bush can’t hold a candle to Obama and the Corrupt-o-crats that are trying to turn the United States into just another European socialist backwater. Fortunately, the only Congressman (mine) who will accept my calls — literally — is firmly against this crap.

  21. #21
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am, txvet2 said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am, stillontheroad said:

    Has anyone else heard wether or not Tom Daschle actually said as old people, it is their duty to die and not be such a drain on the health care system!

    It doesn’t matter if he said it. The Democrats clearly believe it.

  22. #22
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am, babiesgrandma said:

    stillontheroad said:
    Has anyone else heard wether or not Tom Daschle actually said as old people, it is their duty to die and not be such a drain on the health care system! I heard some people talking bout this at work today.

    I said on another thread a few days ago that Daschle’s book “Critical:…” discusses Daschle’s (and all democrats’) plans to ration healthcare. I can’t find the link right now to the review that criticizes the actions that would be taken if such a plan passes. [I am at work and have to get back to my duties!!!] . There’s plenty of info on the Internet both pro and con.

    Part of it seems to say they should realize when their surgery/procedure should not be pursued, because of costs, etc.

  23. #23
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am, beachmom said:

    This link is to a story about China buying Addax, an oil company to get oil out of Iraq.
    They’ll be controlling some of the market now.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/5623265/China-buys-Addax-for-4.4bn-to-tap-Iraqi-oil.html

  24. #24
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am, flmom said:

    This is not Congress! I don’t know what this is…a travesty!

    No it isn’t Congress,silly, it’s the Politburo.

  25. #25
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:10 am, WarTip said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Like it or not death is cheaper than health care to keep people alive.

    If this bill passes following the process that is currently in place and apparently going to be followed isn’t this one of the kinds of legislations that could be headed to court regarding its constitutionality?

    You are assuming of course that our illustrious Judges on the SCOTUS actually concern themselves with the rule of law and the letter and intent of the Constitution … but that is so passe these days. They really do seem to believe that International law and emotion trump the rule of law.

    Sad but true I believe.

  26. #26
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am, xler8bmw said:

    Hey I want my 5 days to review the bill like Obami said! Right who am I kidding LOL

  27. #27
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “The Democrats clearly believe it.”

    It is not a matter for belief. It is factual. Death is cheaper than health care for the elderly. One of the reasons why all the talk about preventive medical care is blowing smoke up your proverbial behind. IF the goal is to cut cost, preventive health care is not a good thing. Counter intuitive I know. But preventive health care means people live longer. Living longer means as one lives longer one uses up more health care dollars, which means cost goes up.

    Death is always cheaper.

    So IF one is only interested in cutting health care cost, that person sees death as a money saver.

    Its not a thing to believe in or not believe it. It just is.

  28. #28
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:19 am, Oink said:

    The good news is that if this thing passes, it should be SOOO easy to beat them in 2010 and 2012 will be a landslide in favor of the GOP.

    Think of the wonderful ads saying the Obama Admin will raise your taxes by umpteen % and the GOP get rid of this sham Cap & Trade and stave off this massive tax increase.

    O/T but along the same lines as “easy to beat them” – Socialized health care – How much would it cost for uninsured people to just submit a bill for reimbursement? Could that cost actually equal $4 trillion?

  29. #29
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am, Adlib said:

    When do Americans take to the streets to protest the way our government is being run?? The Dems are clearly all crooks!

  30. #30
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:23 am, WarTip said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:19 am, Oink said: O/T but along the same lines as “easy to beat them” – Socialized health care – How much would it cost for uninsured people to just submit a bill for reimbursement? Could that cost actually equal $4 trillion?

    Add in the cost of government oversight with their added bonus of inefficiency and your answer is … computing … EASILY!

  31. #31
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:23 am, mgraves said:

    10:14am: Crikey. Sheila Jackson Lee is babbling about “getting the carbon out of the air.”

    Guess she wants all vegetation to die then. What a moron.

  32. #32
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:28 am, single stack said:

    Chicken Little with a green coat.

    …that has a red lining.

  33. #33
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:28 am, no2pcbs1 said:

    democrats are unethical, frauds, cheats and complete morons. sheila jackson lee simply has her head so far up her butt that she strangles herself every time she strains.

  34. #34
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:28 am, conservativesRus said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am, Adlib said:

    When do Americans take to the streets to protest the way our government is being run?? The Dems are clearly all crooks!

    Only problem with that is that unfortunately most of those with R after their name are crooks too. Very few truly honest people exist in the political class.

  35. #35
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:29 am, cirrus1701 said:

    Sheila Jackson Lee is babbling about “getting the carbon out of the air.”

    SHE’S PREJUDICED AGAINST PLANTS!! WHAT WILL THE PLANTS EAT?? Oh, won’t somebody puh-leez think of the plants??!?!?

    (I know. Bad photosynthesis joke.)

  36. #36
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, Ceroth said:

    We are closely reaching a point where we shouldn’t bother calling these people. Instead we should devote our efforts to building an army.

  37. #37
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, JohnnyD said:

    I’m feeling quite dejected. It is obvious to me the Dems are saying “We Won! Now pay up!” Problem is they are so going to screw this country up, there will not be a way to fix it.

    Do they even care?

    Apparently not!

    “….and the band played on.”

  38. #38
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, englishqueen01 said:

    The good news is that if this thing passes, it should be SOOO easy to beat them in 2010 and 2012 will be a landslide in favor of the GOP.

    Think of the wonderful ads saying the Obama Admin will raise your taxes by umpteen % and the GOP get rid of this sham Cap & Trade and stave off this massive tax increase.

    I guess that’s my question. If this crap bill passes – what’s the timeline? Can it be repealed? Can other legislation override it?

  39. #39
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am, happyscrapper said:

    This is what I just e-mailed to FOX News…

    Michael Jackson is dead. This Country is almost dead. And you choose to spend close to 100% of FOX NEWS’ time on a dead person. What is more important??? A dead pop star freak, or the survival of America? Please get back to reporting actual news and leave the tabloid reporting to the MSM. I thought you were better than this.

  40. #40
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, taylork said:

    It’s worth noting that to say the amendment Waxman added is only 300 pages is extremely misleading. If you look at the text of the amendment a lot of stuff is striking stuff in the old bill and making slight modification. (Page 19, beginning line 13, strike paragraph (16) and replace with…)

    Essentially you have to have the amendment and the original bill in hand and read both. This is more like an additional 1,000+ pages that need to be sorted through.

  41. #41
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, conservativesRus said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am, englishqueen01 said:
    I guess that’s my question. If this crap bill passes – what’s the timeline? Can it be repealed? Can other legislation override it?

    Just watch how business follows through with this….leave leave leave

  42. #42
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, sonofdy said:

    Sh

    eila Jackson Lee is babbling about “getting the carbon out of the air.”

    Way to destroy all life on earth, moron.

  43. #43
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Sheila Jackson Lee is babbling about “getting the carbon out of the air.”

    So the bill includes a provision ordering all of us to stop breathing?

  44. #44
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am, sonofdy said:

    So the bill includes a provision ordering all of us to stop breathing?

    She can go first.

  45. #45
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am, sonofdy said:

    Just watch how business follows through with this….leave leave leave

    Why would they stay???

    Be taxed out of existance here or move to china.

    How do you say “I need 3000 slave laborers” in chinesse?

  46. #46
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am, mgraves said:

    Does Luxembourg still have a flat tax? Can I bring my dog there? Any good islands in the Caribbean with a flat-tax that I can bring my dog to? Can’t leave the little fella behind but I don’t want to be trapped by this environmental bs legislation.

    Just think. One day thousands of years from now, school books will talk about a place called “America.” A place that belonged to the people, had unlimited opportunities, and economic freedoms. Children’s eyes will widen with awe, wondering how a place could have ever existed, unfortunately they will probably think such tales are only fictional.

    Thanks Barack. I am sure you are looking forward to the millions you will make once you leave office, while the rest of us suffer…dreams shattered.

  47. #47
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am, stillontheroad said:

    I know here,in rural Kansas, we have coal fired plants and natural gas. Propane if you want to go that route. All, and I mean all, farmers agri associated people are about ready to just throw in the towel over this knee-cap and then trade bill. They do not know how they are going to survive this. Thats including all of us the live rural, utility prices are going through the roof without this scam of a bill.

  48. #48
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am, happyscrapper said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am, Adlib said:
    When do Americans take to the streets to protest the way our government is being run?? The Dems are clearly all crooks!

    The tea parties are “taking to the streets”. Unfortunately, even our right to peacefully protest is being shut down. The cancelled rally in Atlanta is just the beginning of the loss of our constitutional freedoms. We need to RALLY without permits. Don’t let them get the chance to shut us down.

  49. #49
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am, Meloff said:

    10:38am: Philip Kerpen at AFP says Dems. Ortiz and Mollohan are now no votes.

    Hooray – keep the phone calls/emails/faxes coming!!

  50. #50
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am, right4life said:

    I just hope its the liberals who suffer the most…but unfortunately it will be all of us…

    why would any business want to stay in the US again???

    this country is OVA!

  51. #51
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:43 am, ThackerAgency said:

    GO GET EM MM! This is where you shine. Shine on you crazy diamond.

    Shine that light and disinfect their garbage.

  52. #52
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am, right4life said:

    let it pass, the faster this country collapses, the better.

  53. #53
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am, Send_Me said:

    1. I still have to wonder how long it will be until “climate change” or “endangerment” is universally accepted as true science, and those who dissent are labeled as “enemies of science”. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time we’ve been down this road.
    2. Maybe we should just ban the most prevalent causation of the greenhouse effect on this planet: dihydrogen oxide. Besides, dihydrogen oxide kills quite a few people, not to mention plants and animals, each year due to flooding, drowning, sinkholes, and mudslides. In larger quantities, dihydrogen oxide is poisonous. It causes corrosion, erosion, destroys pavement when it freezes, and burns people when it’s hot. Yes, we should definitely ban dihydrogen oxide as an environmental hazard.
    3. Be proud, America: these are your Representatives! This is why those pesky Congressional elections are important, but hey, “conservatives” just had to focus on getting McCain elected…

  54. #54
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am, committed said:

    I have tried calling my Congressman and get a busy signal every time.

    I also emailed him twice yesterday. Both times I got an “article” in response about the so called wisdom of this bill.

    Why do I get the feeling my voice is not wanted or heard?

  55. #55
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am, nail49 said:

    How do you say “I need 3000 slave laborers” in chinesse?

    sonofdy: Easy, “American workers, you’re fired. Anybody want a job?”

    The Chinese will figure it out pretty quick with no translation required!

  56. #56
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am, xler8bmw said:

    Those poor 95% that aren’t going to get a tax increase didn’t see this coming LMAO!!!!!!

  57. #57
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am, babbledabble said:

    Despite the emails of some, Fox is still going on and on about MJ. I am beginning to see why some call them Faux News.

  58. #58
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am, tiredofit08 said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am, sonofdy said:

    I am suprised we got 3 hours of “debate”

    I’m surprised we even had that much “debate”…

    If any of these democraps think that this is going to “help” the economy they are dumber than we thought. This is going to cost everybody big time!! Those that can least afford it will suffer most…you can bet the couple of hundred dollars a month in increased energy costs won’t bother the democraps and neither will the increased food costs….wake up America get on the phones…if they say they’ll vote remind them their pink slip is on the way next election…

  59. #59
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am, thetoysurgeon said:

    If we ever get out of this, the Democrats should be balckballed forever. I for one believe we should outlaw the democratic ( communist ) party from these shores. All white males will be targeted once everything comes to pass. As for white women, you know what will happen to you.

  60. #60
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am, right4life said:

    Yes, we should definitely ban dihydrogen oxide as an environmental hazard

    absolutely!! Oxygen is a known killer too…Oxygen is explosive, and everyone who breathes it DIES!!!

    breathing it should be immediately banned!!!!

  61. #61
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am, committed said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am, babbledabble said:
    Despite the emails of some, Fox is still going on and on about MJ. I am beginning to see why some call them Faux News.

    They probably already have interviews lined up through the weekend. Every singer and actor in the country needs to tell us how sad they are.

  62. #62
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am, CJ said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:19 am, Oink said:

    The good news is that if this thing passes, it should be SOOO easy to beat them in 2010 and 2012 will be a landslide in favor of the GOP.

    I’m saving my outrage for health care. This will further harm the economy, but it is possible to undo it. May take years, but it can be done. The day Obamacare passes will mark the end of the USA. Short of a revolution, we will never be a free country after that day.

    If either/both pass, is there any way the laws could be challenged and tied up in court for a few years — at least long enough for another election cycle or two to happen in the meantime? It seems to work for leftists.

  63. #63
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am, nail49 said:

    the most prevalent causation of the greenhouse effect on this planet: dihydrogen oxide.

    Send_Me: That’s right! Did you also know every single person has this hazardous material in their body and it has been proven that everybody who dies had massive amounts of dihydrogen oxide throughout their system prior to their death? Also, it has been shown that simple act of exhaling causes even MORE dihydrogen oxide to be expelled into the atmosphere!

    This information is being suppressed by the gubbmint. We must stop this spread of dihydrogen oxide immediately.

  64. #64
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am, xler8bmw said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am, babbledabble said:

    Unfortunately it’s the programmers that format the programming that is being discussed. Can’t blame the commentators. Once programming has been scheduled it’s not likely changed!

  65. #65
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am, taylork said:

    ! Oxygen is a known killer too…Oxygen is explosive, and everyone who breathes it DIES!!!

    breathing it should be immediately banned!!!!

    That provision is in the “health-care” bill

  66. #66
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am, greysheepdog said:

    Holy cow! Is anyone listening to the Democrats calling into CSPAN????

    Dems not too happy about Crap & Tax either…..

  67. #67
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am, thetoysurgeon said:

    We will afford the democrats as much sympathy and consideration as they do the welfare of this country and the GOP.
    The Democrats are all gangsters waiting to line their pockets thru some hockus-pockus bill that no one knows whats in it. We the people should march on washington and dethrone them all. We out number them by millions.

  68. #68
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am, committed said:
    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am, greysheepdog said:
    Holy cow! Is anyone listening to the Democrats calling into CSPAN????

    Dems not too happy about Crap & Tax either…..

    America is finally waking up!

  69. #69
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am, Huskergirl said:

    I called and emailed FoxNews about their coverage. Here is what I wrote:

    Get real! Show some real news. Michael Jackson is dead. Okay, enough already! Today, Cap and Trade is going to a vote. It will cause a HUGE tax increase both directly and indirectly on the American people. What has your news channel shown for the last day? Coverage of Michael Jackson. Get a little sense. I turned off the TV in favor of blogs, since I guess that is the only way that I can get any real news coverage of important issues

  70. #70
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am, thetoysurgeon said:

    Gawd, Right4life, don’t give these morons any more ammo. They would be stupid enough to make us wear gas masks at $5000 a pop or tax the air.. geez..

  71. #71
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am, greysheepdog said:

    We can’t away from Michael Jackson on the House floor. JEEEEZ!!!!!!

  72. #72
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am, onlybeef42 said:

    Numbers from the Current AFP List

    Dems
    Yes – 169
    Likely Yes – 29
    U – 18
    Likely No – 10
    No – 20

    Rep
    Yes – 1
    Likely Yes – 5
    U – 5
    Likely No – 3
    No – 164

    Thats Yes – 204 v No – 207 with 23 Undecided

    PS Ortiz is minus 1 U and add a No

  73. #73
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am, tiredofit08 said:

    well now they are recognizing Jackson on the floor…of course its a democrap from LA…and now Jesse Jackson, Jr. praying for him with Rangle by his side…what a spectacle…geeze…the most important bill facing America and their recognizing a pop star who hasn’t done much of late…

  74. #74
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am, Huskergirl said:

    Good Lord, a tribute to Michael Jackson from the floor of the House! AGHHHHH!

  75. #75
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am, Matty O said:

    What can we do if this piece of feces gets enacted into law? I will not pay higher prices for energy to pay for the ridiculous notion that CO2 is a hazard.

  76. #76
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am, committed said:
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am, tiredofit08 said:
    well now they are recognizing Jackson on the floor…of course its a democrap from LA…and now Jesse Jackson, Jr. praying for him with Rangle by his side…what a spectacle…geeze…the most important bill facing America and their recognizing a pop star who hasn’t done much of late…

    Obama would approve.

    Hey, I want equal time for Farrah or I’m going to yell RACIST!!!

  77. #77
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am, nativeaz08 said:

    According to Newsmax:
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has scheduled a vote on the bill for Friday. Although Democratic support has been growing, she still is believed to be short of the votes needed to get the bill through.

    The Senate, meanwhile, is waiting for the House to act. Approval of a climate bill in the Senate has been viewed as a long shot because it will require 60 votes to overcome a certain filibuster. And that has made it even harder for some House Democrats to vote for the politically charged bill.

    I feel a little better …

  78. #78
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am, happyscrapper said:

    Oxygen is a known killer too…Oxygen is explosive, and everyone who breathes it DIES!!!

    breathing it should be immediately banned!!!!

    Case in point…Michael Jackson. He breathed in oxygen and look what happened to him. His biggest contribution to the world. He died. I’m sorry. I know that was mean. But I’m not taking it back.

  79. #79
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am, happyscrapper said:

    I’m saving my outrage for health care.

    CJ, don’t save your outrage. Use it for both issues. I’m sure you have enough outrage to go around. I know I do!

  80. #80
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am, blizzard said:

    From John Boehner’s office. Scary stuff!!!!

  81. #81
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am, happyscrapper said:

    praying for him with Rangle by his side

    PRAYING for him? In Congress?? What happened to “separation of church and state”? You can’t even pray at a football game any more. But they can pray in Congress? Happyscrapper is now off to the rubber room to scream.

  82. #82
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am, DanME said:

    I have been watching CSAPN. Just about everyone, Rep. and Dem., who has called in
    is against this bill. However, the American Sheeples don’t seem to have a clue. Our only hope is the US Senate.
    Nancy Pelosi is insane!

  83. #83
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am, Bruce said:

    This catastrophic bill is about to become law. The dumbed down American public doesn’t give a rip that these wicked politicians will vote on something that they have not even read.

    Yesterday, Hannity played a clip of Reagan asking when will Americans have enough of corrupt politics? The answer “NEVER” continues to be correct.

    When will there be enough decent people willing to take a few days off and physically remove these creeps from our capital? I’m ready to go, but I can’t do it by myself.

  84. #84
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am, cheapseat said:

    on drudge a report says 46 of the 50 states will have to borrow money to pay unemployment claims. 3 times as many people today are on unemployment as were on it at the 1st of this year. 9 million people on unemployment. and these morons in washington want to pass this bill to create a green energy program while 10% of those americans are unemployed and businesses are tumbling like dominoes. yo democrats, how is that hope and change working for you. p.s. that report on drudge is from cnbc, not exactly part of the right wing conspiracy.

  85. #85
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am, Elm Creek Smith said:

    I’d email my congresscritter, but he’s in the Betty Ford Clinic. Seriously.

    Cap-and-trade and healthcare are linked. Just wait for energy costs to skyrocket, and we’ll see dead old people and poor people during extreme cold or extreme heat conditions like you’ve never seen.

    Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force! I’m buying ammo, not gold and silver. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST!!!!!

    ECS

  86. #86
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am, happyscrapper said:

    I pray for Nancy Pelosi daily. I won’t tell you what I pray or I would get kick out of this blog.

  87. #87
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am, committed said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am, cheapseat said:
    on drudge a report says 46 of the 50 states will have to borrow money to pay unemployment claims. 3 times as many people today are on unemployment as were on it at the 1st of this year. 9 million people on unemployment. and these morons in washington want to pass this bill to create a green energy program while 10% of those americans are unemployed and businesses are tumbling like dominoes. yo democrats, how is that hope and change working for you. p.s. that report on drudge is from cnbc, not exactly part of the right wing conspiracy.

    Didn’t Obama say the energy bill would create jobs?

    sarc/

  88. #88
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:25 am, conservativesRus said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am, Send_Me said:

    of course – not at the federal level – but some state congress wanted to mandate that PI be defined as 3 to make math easier.
    More of the same – when we let lawyers make decision – we’re all doomed
    Nothing against lawyer – but they are not doctors, they are not engineers, they are not….

  89. #89
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:25 am, denver republican said:

    I think I’ll go live in Mexico where the weather is warm and the corruption is so much more . . . obvious.

  90. #90
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am, WarTip said:

    When you actually have people signing petitions against dihydrogen oxide (water), CO2 (An important part of the life cycle for all carbon based life forms … read humans) and women signing petitions to ban the outrage of womens’ suffrage; the problem is probably going to require years of education without indoctrination to settle.

    I just hope and keep praying that it really is not too late for us as a nation.

  91. #91
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am, DBNinKY said:

    Didn’t Obama say the energy bill would create jobs?

    Yes, but only “green jobs,” and only for those lucky enough to work for GE and NBC News!

  92. #92
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am, vickisoup said:

    Sanford diddled while the USA burns…..seriously. “Tears of a clown”, comes to mind. His antics will cost the American people immeasurably as he further erodes confidence in GOP lawmakers and the country gets railroaded again. This tax is on his [little] head. Everyone is laughing at us….well I’m not. I’m mad as hell!
    :mad:

  93. #93
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am, committed said:

    Anyone else notice the speed and cost of new programs being brought up for vote since Obama has been in office?

    Every week I’m anticipating something else. In less than six months just look what has happened.

  94. #94
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am, cheapseat said:

    the drudge report also says the states are going to have to pick the pocket of businesses a little more, to balance out that unemployment insurance fund in the future. put more unfunded mandates on business, and i guarantee you you will get fewer businesses. ss (7.5% payed by employer) unemployment ins. 100% paid by employer. workmans comp ins. 100% paid by employer. govt tax collection and bookeeping, 100% paid by employers. osha requirements, eeoc requirements, mountains of paperwork for the government each month requiring a specialized secretary/bookeeper/regulation specialist, 100% paid for by the employer. AND AMERICANS WONDER WHY BUSINESSES ARE MOVING OFFSHORE. THE HIGHEST BUSINESS TAX RATE IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD, THE MOST UNFUNDED MANDATES, AND A MILITANT WORKFORCE DEMANDING MORE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE TO YOU THE WORKER IN AMERICA IF A BUSINESS MOVES OFFSHORE, OR IF A BUSINESS STAYS HERE AND IMPORTS ILLEGAL ALIENS TO WORK HERE? HOPE AND CHANGE.

  95. #95
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:36 am, sharprightturn said:

    BeachMom,
    I just wrote Fox as well…thanks for the e-mail address.

  96. #96
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am, GladzKravtz said:

    From John Boehner’s office. Scary stuff!!!!

    Blizzard, great link! Suggest everyone go there and send it along.
    Just moved into a newer home and are slow rolling the sale of our 80+ previous home, fortunately it was paid off and we thought we could wait for the market to improve. That energy efficiency requirement/penalty will kill the market for older homes with lots of true character.

  97. #97
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:43 am, taylork said:

    sigh, my rep. is Chakka Fatah.

  98. #98
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:44 am, vickisoup said:

    That energy efficiency requirement/penalty will kill the market for older homes with lots of true character.

    I pray your prediction does not come to pass, and I think it won’t. People are not willing to give up the simple pleasures and things that bring them joy. Even in the People’s Republic of Santa Cruz, they’re telling Arnold to shove his water restrictions, unwilling to let their beautiful gardens and landscaping go to seed. We’re waking up to the manipulation of all news and all supposed-”science” that continues to erode our enjoyment of life. Screw you, Obama. Screw you, Al Gore. And the same curses for Waxman, Pelosi, and every weenie in Washington who can’t think for themselves.

  99. #99
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Regulus said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am, babbledabble said:

    Despite the emails of some, Fox is still going on and on about MJ. I am beginning to see why some call them Faux News.

    They’re going to dwell on him for a week, just like they did with Princess Diana, Jackie O, and that Kennedy kid who flew himself into the drink. By this time next week, you’ll be shouting at the TV, “He’s DEAD! Let him go!!”

    But the following people are probably very grateful right now, because they just fell off the radar:

    - Sanford the Idiot.
    - Kim Jong Il.
    - The Iranian mullahs.
    - The donks in Congress.

    Meantime, I’m not even bothering to watch FNC until maybe next Friday. Until then, it’s going to be endless variations of,

    “Breaking News: Day 5, and Michael Jackson is still dead. We’re taking you now to interview Joe Schmedlap, who knew someone who knew someone who knew him when…”

  100. #100
    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am, beachmom said:

    On June 26th, 2009 at 11:36 am, sharprightturn said:

    BeachMom,
    I just wrote Fox as well…thanks for the e-mail address.

    You’re welcome.
    Just got back home. Glenn Beck is on his radio show and is not planning on MJ coverage tonight. Hopefully, the programming director will let him have his show as it may well be the only real news we get all day.

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