Times executives believed that publicity would raise Mr. Rohde’s value to his captors as a bargaining chip and reduce his chance of survival.

What the Times executives believed shouldn’t really matter. What should matter was what the FBI and David Rohde’s family believed.

Since when is the NYT an authority on how to deal with terrorist kidnappings? Why is that no where in the article to they mention dealing with real experts on these matters?

On June 30th, 2009 at 10:50 am, Hexadecimal said:

You’re not alone in this thinking. I had considered a similar response but could not find the right words to keep it short.

Wikipedia as a staging ground for going to other links is not terrible. Plus, there’s a wealth of information to be had on less controversial topics that you might otherwise have a difficult time finding. As you say, even traditional encyclopedias had issues with finding true experts versus people that were willing to write something on a topic.

You take Wikipedia with a grain of salt and do more research. That doesn’t mean that all of Wikipedia is terrible. I’m with you on this.

I find Wikipedia, and its offshoots are at their most useful when the information in it is endnoted. Then you use the endnote to track down the primary or secondary source. The key is to not rely on Wikipedia in and of itself, but use it as a tool in finding other research materials.

The key get as close to the original source as possible.

Note especially how a Times editor used Wikipedia (and the Times’ own website) to spread pro-Muslim propaganda about Rohde in order to secure his release — specifically, by expunging the word “Christian:”

I wonder…

Will Little Pinch’s jihadi friends be so friendly to their reporters in the future because of this deception?

I wonder…

Did the NY Rag report on Daniel Pearl’s capture?

The Media in this country has been taken over by the Rockefeller Elite using front groups like non profit foundations to hide the financial relationships.

Just look at the fact that Barry Soetoro has not had to prove he is a natural born citizen. All the state run media, including Wikipedia, have mocked and diminished the issue coining a new term dubbed “birthers” for anyone that wants the Constitution to be enforced.This despite the fact there were Congressional hearings on John McCain to determine his birth place and whether he was a natural born citizen.

Even e-bay has scrubbed 2 times a guy that says he has the original copy of the “Obama” birth certificate from Kenya and wants to sell it.He is now on his third listing.

Sadly web searches on broad often lead to Wikipedia.

Welcome to the party, pal.

The Times manages to blab every secret they can get their grubby mitts on, but I’m supposed to keep quiet when one of their guys is in the line of fire?

Like hell.

What happens is that the ‘haters’ of most any subject will destroy honest information about that subject. Propaganda abounds on the wiki in ways beyond most all readers comprehension. It becomes very difficult to even see the bias in subjects the casual reader thinks they are ‘learning’ about.

Republican Presidential Debates, 2008

Wikipedia whitewashed any mention of the February 28th debate.

There was a CNN Republican Debate originally scheduled for February 28th. CNN cancelled it saying McCain was the “presumptive nominee”. But McCain had not clinched the nomination, and that debate could have helped Mike Huckabee win Texas and 1 or more of the other 3 primaries held March 4th. If Huckabee had won, and continued to win other primaries, he could have prevented McCain from reaching the magic number of 1191 pledged delegates.

Huckabee didn’t have to reach 1191, he only had to prevent McCain from reaching 1191. Then it would have been a brokered convention, and we likely would have put forth a better candidate than McCain.

CNN wanted McCain to be the Republican nominee. So CNN cancelled the debate, and even though McCain was invited to a substitute debate on March 3rd, McCain chose to skip that debate and have a celebratory barbeque with CNN staff instead.

double standards must be twice as good, right?

That’s funny.

but, but but, If standards are good, double standards must be twice as good, right?

why would anyone think it is a reliable source?

I dunno, happyscrapper; ask lgm. He lurrvves it.

spaceycakes said:

OT–what?? Billy Mays !!! died?

Billy Mays died in his sleep Sunday morning after being hit on the hit by flying luggage during a rough U.S. Air landing. He was 50 I believe.

Now who’s going to sell me light switches, power augers, orange glo etc?

We still have Vince and his Sham Wow and chopper thing, but it’s just not the same.