Cap-and-Tax 8 Watch: Follow the money
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Who’s behind the Cap-and-Tax 8 Republicans? You won’t be surprised. Kevin Mooney at the Examiner reports:
Rep. Kirk of Illinois, for instance, was among the top 20 recipients of PAC donations from environmental groups in the 2008 election cycle. He received $1,000 from the League of Conservation Voters (PAC), $4,000 from Ocean Champions (PAC) and $4,000 from Republicans for Environmental Protection (PAC). In this same cycle Republicans for Environmental Protection also donated $4,000 in PAC funds to Rep. Reichert.
The League of Conservation Voters and the Sierra Club have directed support toward the New Jersey Republicans who voted for the new regulations. Rep. LoBiondo received $1,020 from the League of Conservation Voters (PAC) in the 2008 election cycle and $2,010 from the Sierra Club (PAC) in the 2006 election cycle.
Bono Mack (CA) (202) 225-5330
Castle (DE) (202) 225-4165
Kirk (IL) (202) 225-4835 (And he’s seriously considering running for Senate!)
Lance (NJ) (202) 225-5361
LoBiondo (NJ) (202) 225-6572
McHugh (NY) (202) 225-4611
Reichert (WA) (202) 225-7761
Smith (NJ) (202) 225-3765
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Keep the pressure on:
Republicans and conservative groups opposed to the cap-and-trade bill that passed the House last week did their best to make sure Buchanan did not vote with the majority of Democrats.
Talk show host Rush Limbaugh, and conservative bloggers Michelle Malkin and Erick Erickson of Redstate.com all singled out Buchanan as one of the five undecided Republicans late last week. The bloggers published his office phone number to encourage readers to call him and tell him to vote no on the bill.
On the otherside, environmental groups were pushing Buchanan hard, singling him out for a television ad campaign aimed at encouraging people to call him and vote yes. The National Wildlife Federation and the Environmental Defense Fund both ran newspaper ads in the region pushing Buchanan to vote for the bill.
His office reports receiving 2,000 calls and emails on the climate change bill by the time Friday’s vote arrived.
Buchanan ended up joining all but eight Republicans in voting against the climate change bill that includes the cap and trade regulations.
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Mark Tapscott doesn’t like the Twitter terminology “cap-and-traitors.” He asks:
Could somebody please explain the difference between people on the Right calling the eight GOP congressmen who voted for the Obama-Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade anti-global warming energy bill “cap and traitors” and the far lefties at Moveon.org calling Gen. David Petraeus “General Betrayus”?
Seems rather obvious to me — and to the commenters over at the Examiner:
Lybberty
Jun 29, 2009
Whereas a “betrayal” by General Petraeus implies betrayal of the United States of America, the RINOs are “traitors” to the conservative cause. Come on, Mark. There is a bright-line difference between suggesting someone is a traitor to a partisan cause and the implication that someone–in this instance, a diligent, faithful, and true Army General–has betrayed his country. You can fairly say that they went too far and leave it to your readers to agree or disagree, but your comparison of these comments to the ugly treatment of General Petraeus is ridiculous.
Interestingly, Tapscott criticizes conservatives for calling the cap-and-tax 8 traitors to the Right, but has no comment on the eco-Leftists calling Republicans who voted against cap-and-tax traitors to the planet.
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Sen. James Inhofe weighs in at Human Events on what’s next with cap and trade:
With China and other developing countries staunchly opposed to accepting any binding emissions requirements, we should be asking a more fundamental question: What, exactly, are we doing this for? If the goal of cap-and-trade is to reduce global temperatures by reducing global greenhouse gas concentrations, and if China and other leading carbon emitters continue to emit at will, then how can this supposed “problem” be solved?
Well, if you accept the alarmist science that anthropogenic gases are causing a catastrophe, then reducing global greenhouse gas concentrations is the solution. But the unilateral solution — again, that American must act first to persuade China and others to follow — is nowhere in evidence. The only thing America gets by acting alone is a raw deal, and the planet is no better off.
My Democrat colleagues want to sweep this reality under the rug. They argue that cap and trade will not only be the leash that pulls China along, but also that it will solve our economic woes, create millions of new green jobs, and promote energy security.
Now, of course, these are laudable goals. And Republicans have a simple answer to this. Let’s provide incentives, rather than taxes and mandates, to produce clean, affordable, and reliable sources of energy, whether it’s nuclear, wind, solar, clean coal, or natural gas. Cut the red tape. Encourage private investment. Let all technologies compete in the market place. However, that is not what the Democrats are proposing in the Waxman-Markey bill…
In fact, that bill does the exact opposite. It closes access to affordable sources of energy by trying to price certain kinds of energy out of the market. It picks winners and losers that will leave places like the Midwest and the South paying higher energy prices to subsidize areas in the rest of the country. And it creates more bureaucracy that will only increase the costs that consumers bear and add more layers of regulation on small businesses.
Why, then, do my colleagues believe that creating a national energy tax is necessary? It’s all rooted in global warming science. In fact, just last week the Administration produced yet another alarmist report on global warming, which of course is nothing new. It takes the worst possible predictions from the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report and attempts to localize them to instill fear throughout the country. It’s no surprise that such a report was released just in time for the House vote on Waxman-Markey. However, what’s becoming clear is that despite millions of dollars spent on advertising, the American public remains rightly skeptical of the so-called ‘consensus’ on global warming. This is why my colleagues are now forced to talk more about green jobs and energy security, since the fear mongering isn’t working. …
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There are lots of indications that this is much less about “greening” our country, and a lot more about lining certain peoples’ pockets.
Which is why I call it CRAP & RAID.
It is ANOTHER massive statist wealth redistribution plan, and obscene on every level.
Hollywierd on steroids…our Congress.
It’s not easy being green. (sorry Kermit) Lot’s of people to corrupt.
Are only IDIOTS elected to Congress or do these people suffer massive IQ loss after each election? Of course both may be true!
Waxman seems to be the perfect storm of evil and stupid but he does seem to face a lot of competition for the dubious honor of being the stupidest Congress-critter. It is so difficult to determine who is actually the stupidest one of the lot.
That’s all it took to buy these spineless worms off?
Next time instead of calling, I’ll just write a check.
The other factor at work is the threat of redistricting. At least in NJ. I read that either in an article MM linked, or just online somewhere. In any case Ragspierre… that would make this also about their own re-election chances. As always with these people, another self-serving motivation.
Every time I hear one of these morons on TV say, “We must do something about global warming NOW, or our grandchildren won’t have a planet to live on”, I want to scream, “They won’t be able to afford to even eat, so what’s the difference???” Try to keep up, libs…global warming is so “yesterday”. It is now “climate change”. So, instead of dealing with a warming planet, we need to deal with…what? Cooling? Nothing? Or are you still stuck on the stupid of “carbon dioxide”? I am so confused. Which argument are they spewing now? Some are with the warming scenario. Some are with the carbon stuff, so far, I haven’t heard anyone talk about the fact that we are now cooling. Has anyone actually tried to ask these questions of Al Bore?
Another (in a long line) good argument for term limits. Each Congressman deserves two terms. . . one in office, one in jail.
Everyone following this CRAP & RAID mess needs to read this.
Our country is in the hands of people who are ignorant, pretty dumb, corrupt, without American core values, and possessed of power that our charter of government does not grant them.
We have to change most of the foregoing, but especially the LAST. Much else would self-correct after we got that right.
People with no core principles are easily purchased.
Rags, the ‘ignorant, pretty dumb’ part of your comment actually describes the people who voted for all the dems in 2006 and the big dem in 2008.
I would not describe Pelosi and her ilk as ignorant and dumb. They are arrogant, cunning and tenacious. Pelosi is very effective in her ‘whip’ role. Looking at her makes me physically feel the chalk on a blackboard…but the woman gets it done.
My first tought.
Answered.
It does if the Supreme Court says it does. The problem is that the Founding Fathers never thought it possible that ideological, agenda driven people could attain elected office en masse.
Why not, I understand an unqualified, not sure about his citizenship, community organizer ran for the senate in IL. and won. As that great American Don King pronounced years ago “only in America”.
No, there are some intelligent people in Congress. Regretably there seems to be too many intelligent people willing to be bought by lobbyists, as well as a huge number who are just “representative” of the level of intelligence of those who keep re-electing idiots to office.
I like the way you think walterc, good one.
The new American Dream.
And this is how Republicans lost eight more Representatives. Keep it up and you will have an ideologically pure and politically irrelevant southern white peoples’ party.
Americans tolerate dissent (I disagree with what you say, but …). Republicans should too, if they want to be a credible force in American politics.
lgm, HUH?
I intend to actively support a campaign AGAINST Mark Kirk if/when he runs for reelection.
Then again, my other choice may wind up being that idiot Oberweis. The IL Republican Party is such a joke.
I understand your comment, while STRONGLY disagreeing with it.
The Constitution was not written for the the Supremes…or any other elite…to own as their sole province.
It was written in elegant simplicity for the people of the nation to have, hold, and understand. It is our charter of government, after all.
While the Supreme Court has the duty to interpret the Constitution, it does not have the right or power to change it. When does that happen, and who determines that is has happened?
Well, we do, and we have the right and obligation to correct the court when it over-steps. We have just forgotten both the right and obligation part, and how to do it.
So, while I take your point…especially as a practical matter…I think it reflects a lack of understanding. The Constitution means what the American people…in any existing generation…decide what it means. We have the power…if we are vigorous in using it…to tell our government what our Constitution says and does not say.
I think we should, and must, now.
If that be the case the Pelosi Republicans are not only whores but cheap whores. The PAC donations may have been in the $1000/$4000 range but when these people sell out they get creative–those behind the PACs do find ways to hire friends and relatives as consultants for far more. Roads, bridges and parking garages get built with Brother-in-Law Who Can’t Get a Job as a consultant, property easements get purchased at several times market value. If a Pelosi Republican does get defeated in the primary a nice fat job awaits the whore. We can try to follow the money but the sleaze class finds ways to muddy the trail. Perhaps Pelosi’s ethics panel or Eric Holder’s Justice Department will look into it. We wait with baited breath.
I did see a women from Illinois talk about Lady Mark Kirk this morning–she was not pleased
Sadly the man who served in Afghanistan has become Pelosi’s Boy Toy-maybe Barney Frank’s too.
God Bless America except for the Blue states.
WOW, lgm just let his racism mask slip a little.
This ought to be the “Cap and Tax 9″. What about Senator Flake, who thought his daughter’s beauty pageant was more important than a bill that will most definitely screw us over for YEARS to come? One’s beauty is fleeting.
Name five pro-choice Dimocrats in Congress.
I’m all moved and everything that a Marxist is concerned about preserving the Republican Party.
The only thing that will save the Republican Party…if that’s even possible now…is a return to first principles.
Statism…in any form…IS NOT ONE.
Meanwhile…BREAKING NEWS…
Michael Jackson is still dead.
These Tr8tors are beyond stupid!
Despite the fact that none of them knows what’s in the Democrat bill, they have sold out their honor (had they any in the first place,) for a mere pittance, if the reason for voting “aye” were the campaign contributions.
Do none of them realize that their biggest campaign contributions come from the taxpayers they are supposed to represent? We, the taxpayers pay their salaries, and perks…NOT the special interests! If we are not happy with their representation or lack thereof, we can, and will vote them out of office.
I sincerely doubt the special interests can pony up the same amount of money to keep them in office…unless they throw in the “services” of ACORN.
Ragspierre said (#25):
2008 candidates endorsed by Democrats for Life[9] included:
* Bobby Bright – Mayor of Montgomery, Alabama and nominee for Alabama’s 2nd congressional district
* David Boswell – Nominee for Kentucky’s 2nd congressional district
* Don Cazayoux – Represents Louisiana’s 6th congressional district
* Travis Childers – Represents Mississippi’s 1st congressional district
* Kathy Dahlkemper – Nominee for Pennsylvania’s 3rd congressional district
* Steve Driehaus – Nominee for Ohio’s 1st congressional district
* Jim Esch – Nominee for Nebraska’s 2nd congressional district
* Bill O’Neill – Nominee for Ohio’s 14th congressional district
Also Tom Ridge.
Did you mean pro-life instead?
A return to what makes Republicans better than democrats – our conservative principles and religious values – is all it takes to put the GOP back in control come 2010 and 2012!
Especially now that the American people have seen the Democrat alternative, as envisioned and carried out by Team Obama – federal debt and deficits beyond imagination, the nationalization of all things private, increased state dependence and the relinquishment of personal freedoms.
In light of the massive debts and government take-overs Obama and the democrats have saddled on the country, the only thing that can detour a GOP recapture of Congress in 2010 is for renegade Republicans to turn from their conservative bedrock.
Yes. Egg on face….boy….
Look at lgm’s list. He couldn’t do it.
Anybody ever hear of these people…????
Point proven.
lgm, two points:
1) There are three kinds of people in this world; those who can count and those who can’t.
2) “Close” only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Based on your list there are only two in Congress, not five. The remainder listed are nominiees, which fall into the “close, but no cigar” category.
You lose.
No. I’ve never heard of David Boswell, and as someone who is up on state politics, I doubt if anyone in the district where he’s running has either.
I guess you have to know what the definition of “in” is…
OT – they’re killing each other in Iraq again…Thanks Obama – fine job you’re doing there.
That is going to go on for some time. The point is the level of violence is manageable by the Iraqis. That, by the way, is the definition for “winning” an insurgency; reducing the degree of violence to a manageble level.
Taking out Iran would help redue it even further.
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We have the best Congress that money can buy.
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Too bad that it’s not the base salary money paid by the U.S. Taxpayers (aka “victims”) that counts. It’s the additional BRIBE MONEY from various agenda driven PAC’s that buys the Congressmen–both Senators and Representatives.
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It’s no accident that almost all of Congress’s members are rich. Our country looks more like the Mexican bribe (mordida) system that exists all through the world. The only difference is larger amount of money paid to our corruptocrats–of both parties.
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We can’t get term limits–but we can vote these crooks out of office. CKEAN SWEEP 2010!
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John Bibb
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I started looking them up. A few of them are not in Congress (nominees don’t really count, do they?)
By contrast, the following are pro-abortion Republican senators: Specter, Cheffee, Collins, Snowe, Murkowski, and Hutchison.
However, we can agree that neither does lgm’s list affect Democratic party position just as these senators do not affect the GOP platform.
Misscheryl
You gotta know that “THE ONE” will shortly take credit for getting all the combat troops out of Iraq, or take credit for something positive that came out of Operation Iraqi Freedom. It’ll probably come in the form of…
“I have always said…”
or,
“It has always been my position that…”
or,
“I always knew that our troops…”
or,
“Had my proposals for ending this war been implemented earlier, more American treasure…..”
Aren’t you just giddy with anticipation?
When did we begin to assume that SCOTUS is infallible, omniscient and omnipotent? Does nobody remember the Dred Scott decision of 1857?
I am sorry but SCOTUS gets it wrong frequently. Kelo is just another example.
I don’t remember the part of the Constitution that grants these nine supreme power over the United States.
The point I was making…awkwardly…was that conservatives tend to be LESS homogeneous…or more tolerant of some divergence in views…than does the Dimocrat Party. That group tends to be HIGHLY homogenized, and shows very little tolerance for dissent. See “Joe Lieberman”. See also “Zell Miller”.
Only in this country can the mentally deficient be elected for the purpose of enacting laws for the sane. I see “lgm” is passing gas through his ears again.
True that, War.
There is a saying I picked up somewhere, and I recommend we all chisel it on the inside of our foreheads…
“If you don’t know your rights, you don’t have any.”
We are successfully conditioned to believe that we are subservient to elites. We are not, according to the Constitution. We own it, and we can control it. We CAN demand that it is clarified to mean what we see it should, directing our elites to follow.
I understand fully what the Constitution represents. My point was that if those who believe in the “living, breathing” Constitution are in power, including the Supreme Court, the definition is obscured, even altered. The changes will be accepted over time.
Why do we still have thousands of programs that conflict with the Constitution? We just expand the definition of interstate commerce. See, it’s in the Constitution. Abortion? Fourth Amendment covers that.
People are sheep. Look at what’s happening now. If Obama gets a majority on the SC, do you really think people will push back? Or will they just gradually accept these impositions? How much of the New Deal or War on Poverty was repealed?
Sonny Bono’s widow is a “Republican” for the same reason Olympia Snowe is, she inherited the seat of her dead Republican husband.
Maybe, just maybe, appointing family members to serve out somebody’s term when they die in office isn’t a good idea.
Call me a nutcase but :
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/24/mr-popular-rep-paul-wins-supporters-fed-sunshine/
If someone would use Ron Paul’s ideas without acting like Ron Paul, they’d get my vote.
So what did it take to get that overturned?
I agree 100%, so where do you appeal that decision?
Roe v Wade has been the law of the land for how long?
You know you and I agree on this, as a “facts on the ground” observation.
My points were about the paradigm that ALSO exists…the one that empowers people to change these things you note (correctly) that are wrong.
Have we pushed back? NO. We have watched and wondered…and some of us have deplored and wept…and we have, as a nation, eaten the crap that we have been given.
We are either at…or very near…a tipping point. We either have to change this trend RADICALLY, or we have to find some way to break with the nation that currently exists.
My thinking is that we can reverse this trend, and we have to try.
Only then would we be justified in leaving.
Same fraud as the Blue Dog Democrats. Bob Casey Junior ran for his Senate seat claiming to be pro-life like his father, denied a speaking role at the 1992 Demonratic National Convention because he was pro-choice. Senator Casey promptly voted to support Obama’s funding of foreign abortions.
Just like the Blue Dogs, they represent moderate, even center-right districts, and have to lie to get elected. They can even vote pro-life now, as the Dems have plenty enough votes to pass anything they want.
Just as only 11 of the 49 ‘Blue Dogs’ voted against Porkulus, because it was important to Obama that it be seen as united, and that Porkulus wasn’t a far left piece of legislation, if the whip wanted them to vote pro-abortion on any issue, they would. If the Republicans pick up seats in the House in 2010, and their votes are needed, they will vote as directed.
The Democratic Party is solidly pro-abortion, and no true pro-life candidate could run as a Democrat. The Democrat Party is also pro-statist and pro-socialist, and any ‘Blue Dog’ that claims to be a moderate, not a big state, anti-gun, pro-socialist and pro-high taxes politician, is lying to fool what he or she hopes is a gullible constituency back home.
I hope you’re right about being able to change this.
Me, too, John. Me, too…
On a more mundane level…
There are some really good points made in this piece.
I think we are rapidly running out of options and time to peacefully resolve the critical constitutional crisis facing this Republic.
There is a slim chance that the American people will wake up and reject the ever increasing un-constitutional powers claimed by the central government.
There is a slightly better chance that a sufficient number of the states will take action and rein in the ever increasing un-constitutional powers claimed by the central government.
Baring those options everything else seems too ugly to consider. But, if we let the central government continue to usurp powers not granted by the constitution we will suffer greatly and probably during my life time.
What happened in Honduras this week is no longer an unimaginable scenario in this nation. The question is which party will emerge victorious in such an event.
I would never have thought this possible even 12 years ago. Now, I fear the probability of such events is approaching 1.00.
We are the proverbial frogs in the pan of hot water.
And for the usual bunch of trolls, recognizing that something is probable is not the same as wishing for it or desiring it.
“If you don’t know what your rights are, you don’t have any.” That is so true.
Not all Americans. Liberals don’t tolerate dissent.
Any ruling where Ginsberg is in the majority and Roberts is not, is almost certainly wrong.
JohnD =
On other threads I’ve mentioned what Rags says below.
I believe it’s one of our biggest problems as conservatives (and free/non lemming thinkers). Dems are more tight-knit. They will all band together and say the sky is polkadot orange. Ron Paul is a perfect example mentioned earlier. He has some looney ideas and we call him a crackpot. You don’t hear the dems calling Dennis Kucinich a crackpot. Only an example, please!
We conservatives need to figure out how we can unite behind the same candidate. Here’s an example; Sarah Palin – if she were to win the primary could we all unite behind her w/o a lot of internal bickering and back stabbing by the elite?
Can we exile Obama back to Kenya?
Will the Army cooperate?
If we overthrow Obama, who will run the country? McCain? Graham? Gingrich? Powell? Steele? Hannity? Limbaugh? Huckabee? Petraeus? Joe the Plumber?
Inhofe nailed it.Even if you accept the premise of anthropogenic warming, this bill won’t help one iota of a degree.
At this point I would take Vaclav Klaus or Angela Merkel over the Marxist Kenyan we have. In a few more months Sarkozy will start to look pretty good…
The Dems have their 60 seat majority per Fox…… Court rules in favor of the assclown Franken.
Since it is the fad not to read the bills, Did the congresspeople read where The US has given the US to China for payment on their debt or the part where all congresspeople get paid $0 after the summer break. Where is the frickin transparentcy? When Obama said he was ending the funny business in DC what did he mean. He has broken about every law. He is a liar and thief.
I will run the country just get me into DC.
The Libertarian and Constitution parties wouldn’t have had the support they did if the GOP hadn’t run McCain. I believe the election could have easily been won if it had been anybody but McCain. Of course, the MSM will push to get some clown nominated just like last time and open primaries will help.
And of course, they’ll use Alinsky’s favorite weapon, ridicule, against anyone they perceive as a valid threat.
Hunter, Tancredo and some others might have stood some sort of chance if the primary season didn’t start with liberal bastions like IA and NH…as I’ve said before – reward more conservative states (those that deliver the electoral votes) with earlier primaries and those that the electoral votes go the other way, can go to the end of the line.
Coleman Concedes ? What a sack of you know what …
Coleman: “We have reached the point where future litigation damages our state….I congratulate Al Franken on his victory.”
Me: speechless …
You: wrong thread.
I can’t believe that Waxman-Malarky hasn’t shown up.
I know, I know a pityful excuse for a play on words.
PC is Thought Control
LEE
Its all about socialism. Power and wealth for the ruling class/enough to survive for the productive slave class.
Who said slavers died in 1865?
I don’t know that McCain was the sole reason for increased votes for the Constitution Party in the last election. In fact, the Constitution Party got more votes than last time in spite of the fact that they were not listed on the ballots of a couple of large states.
McCain is the MAIN reason I did not vote GOP for the first time in nearly 30 years. But, I swore I would NEVER vote for McCain back in 2003. I don’t support people who don’t understand ans support the constitution and McCain clearly does not understand or support it.
Errah,
. . . we should hang them from the nearest tree and limit their CO2 emissions.
But no worries. We got Obama instead.