Dear Mark Sanford: Buy a one-way ticket to Argentina already and be gone
I am getting almost as sick and tired of the never-ending Sanford circus as I am of the never-ending Jacko circus.
The mistress says she’s “hurt.”
The adulterous governor can’t stop yammering about God and the Bible.
And now there’s more sex, lies, and tears:
In a lengthy, emotional interview with The Associated Press, the governor described seven meetings with the woman, including their first in 2001. Sanford says there have been five over a 12-month period, including two multi-night stays with her in New York.
It was the first disclosure of any get-togethers with her in the United States and contradicted a public confession last week during which he admitted to a total of four encounters in the past year.
I found this passage in Cheaty McCheater’s latest online apology most stomach-turning:
So in the aftermath of this failure I want to not only apologize, but to commit to growing personally and spiritually. Immediately after all this unfolded last week I had thought I would resign – as I believe in the military model of leadership and when trust of any form is broken one lays down the sword. A long list of close friends have suggested otherwise – that for God to really work in my life I shouldn’t be getting off so lightly. While it would be personally easier to exit stage left, their point has been that my larger sin was the sin of pride. They contended that in many instances I may well have held the right position on limited government, spending or taxes – but that if my spirit wasn’t right in the presentation of those ideas to people in the General Assembly, or elsewhere, I could elicit the response that I had at many times indeed gotten from other state leaders.
Their belief was that if I walked in with a real spirit of humility then this last legislative term could well be our most productive one – and that outside this term, I would ultimately be a better person and of more service in whatever doors God opened next in life if I stuck around to learn lessons rather than running and hiding down at the farm.
They have also made the point that a good part of life is about scripts – that the idea of redemption isn’t something that Marshall, Landon, Bolton and Blake should just read about, it’s something they should see. Accordingly, they suggested that there was a very different life script that would be lived and learned by our boys, and thousands like them, if this story simply ended with scandal and then the end of office – versus a fall from grace and then renewal and rebuilding and growth in its aftermath.
He claims the best thing he can do for his boys is spend more time away from them trying to salvage his political career.
He wasn’t thinking of his boys’ best interests on Father’s Day weekend or over the past eight years. And he isn’t thinking of their best interests now.
So, go buy a one-way ticket to Argentina already, Gov. Sanford, and spare us all the continued spectacle and ready-for-prime-time agony.
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What’s next: Mark Sanford bawling on Dr. Phil? Touring his NYC love nests w/Tyra Banks? Self-flagellating on The View?
Enough already.
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Allahpundit: “His aides seriously need to start steering this guy away from microphones before he ends up telling us which positions he and Maria tried.”
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Oh, sure, we can judge. We can mete out punishment here on earth, too, for those that break the law of the land.
The judgement of Shemini Atzeret is what we are not allowed. That is G-d’s job.
sbw999,
Your point is not lost on me. He may have to relinquish his position within the Party, to stop the bleeding so to speak, as part of his penance.
Your point makes sense to me.
Justified… Sorry, I didn’t click your link and didn’t read your article.
Personally, I’m having a hard time with what I perceive is a strange attitude on your part and your demand making on a forum that is not yours. I think it is for that reason that I haven’t clicked your link.
If you want a better response from people, try stating your own opinion instead of demanding everybody Else’s. Then people might respond to what you said without feeling like you are compelling them to do your bidding.
I think you’re probably not aware how you are coming across.
You might be right about the perception of me, Joy.
But I don’t think it is too bold of me to seek the standard of forgiveness from people who are on a public forum hurling condemnation. I believe the two issues to be very much connected.
J-Right, Seems you are also assuming MM is following this and refusing to respond to your demand. And…you’re condemning her for it. Where’s your forgiveness?
Sanford,
Fall on your sword already!!!
Mark Sanford should not be allowed to resign, the South Carolina legislature needs to fire him.
Amen, Michelle. I am tired of this jackassery.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/30/AR2009063001581.html
I can’t say what he should do. No one can do that. It must come from Sanford. Mark Sanford should say what he is going to do to rebuild trust. The priority should focus on his wife and family then the rest should work out ok. He knows their needs best (or at least I hope he knows) and therefore should be able to figure out what kind of steps he should take.
I can only say what kind of steps on what I would do in a similar situation.
You say the condemnation is flowing freely here. I can’t speak for others, but I don’t condemn the man. I wouldn’t let him near my wife, but I don’t condemn him. Many times people say things in anger that they don’t really mean. You must allow people to react and be upset. You are very quick to jump on us to prove our evil malevolence. Why do you do this?
You seem to be putting the burden of proof on people here to show what they must do to forgive Sanford. Why do you let Sanford skate so easily? Shouldn’t you at least acknowledge that people here may be understandably distressed and angry that yet another Republican leader has fallen so spectacularly? Why are you so hard on those of us who may be angry? It doesn’t necessarily mean that we condemn him and wish him ill. Can’t you empathize with our feelings? Why do you make us out to be bad guys for our understandable hurt? Why aren’t you at least as hard on Sanford? You almost seem to be willing to overlook at as if it didn’t happen.
You asked, wwjd? You can’t presume to know what Jesus would do here. Jesus did a lot of things and will do much more in the future that are not lovey dovie Kumbaya nice. No. Jesus is going to do some very very unpleasant things. …things that leave no room for cookies, punch, and a nice Sunday School lesson. It strikes me as very arrogant when people ask “wwjd”, because they are putting themselves above others. Let me ask you, would Jesus go to a Church meeting with a whip to beat people and knock over tables and chairs? You know that he did this kind of thing. Would you have predicted it? You’d better be very careful about wwjd thinking. Judas thought Jesus would kick out the Romans if his hand was forced. Look what that got him.
Breaking news!
Michael Jackson is still dead.
Gov. Sanford is still a crapweasal.
Details at 5.
I finally got through all the posts. And Joy, you are right on with your response to an obvious troll who is trying to divert the discussion. What we need to remember is our motto to NOT FEED THE TROLL. Michelle owes this troll absolutely nothing. Nor does she owe Sanford forgiveness. None of us do. That is up to his family and God. Period. We have a right to criticize, as he was supposedly a “standardbearer” for the conservative movement, and he let us down…big time.
Oh, and the last thing I will ever do is click on the link provided by a troll. You just don’t know where it will lead…virus, etc. I wouldn’t take the chance.
OMG…Now he “crossed the line” with several women. Does he have no shame? Apparently not. And I’ll bet it doesn’t end there.
“It was only five times in Argentina”…
“except for the two in the States”…
“oops, I forgot the other makeout sessions”…
“wait, but I didn’t have sex” (sound familiar?)…
“Argentina is my soulmate…but I’m trying to fall back in love with my wife”. (gag on that one)
The guy is delusional AND an idiot AND I really feel embarrassed for his family. What a role model HE is for his sons. How about “what NOT to do”.
He is toast.
If I can’t know what Jesus would do, how can I be expected to follow his lead?
Happyscrapper you can call me a troll if you wish, but that doesn’t diminish the rightfulness of asking those who are condemning what they would expect to allow for forgiveness.
That is such an awful and humiliating thing to say about his wife. She needs to throw his clothes and all his belongings out on the lawn and change all the locks.
Justified…We have pretty much covered the subject you keep going back to. You are becoming tiresome and that discussion is done. No one owes you any explanations…period.
If a neighbor molested your child and later you found out about it, what would you do? If you confronted the neighbor and he begged your forgiveness, wwjd?
Feel free to drop out of it happyscrapper. I’m enjoying a enjoying a discussion with some smart people.
Penance?
C’mon guys… penance is a contrivance of the lord of this world, and by his standards Mark is a saint.
This forgiveness bluster has nothing to do with whether Mark should resign. Forgiveness doesn’t dismiss sin. Forgiveness doesn’t enable the behavior that leads to sin. I can forgive Mark and seek his resignation. Those actions are conflicting.
Forgiveness doesn’t mean saying “Hey Mark, that’s OK, I understand, I might have fallen the same way in your circumstances, try to do better next time”.
This is not the time for Mark to be in office. It hurts his family. It hurts his political party, and it hurts the people of SC.
I have just as much right to post here as you do. More, in fact, as I am not a troll. I won’t comment any more, as you are not worth it.
Justified Right, you cannot presume who Jesus will forgive. His judgments are true and righteous altogether (Psa. 19:9), yours are not.
This is basic.
dtestard I am in control of who I will forgive.
Tazed and Confused – you and I appear to be in agreement.
J-Right, Just a suggestion…don’t scrap with the scrapper. You are not a troll, but you are not honestly engaging in the debate either. You still haven’t demonstrated how MM is condemning Sanford, and why she needs to forgive him.
“I am in control of who I will forgive.”
Whoa – signing off.
Minor whoops… forgot the “NOT”
What a total jerk.
This is horrible! Governor Sanford’s wife was kind enough to give him a second chance and he humiliates her and their children in this way! It was bad enough that his betrayal of his family became public knowledge due to his carelessness but this is too much.
Once he gets his head out of his a**, Sanford can seek forgiveness from his wife and children and the Lord.
I see no reason for me or anyone else to forgive him. I think that many here are incredulous that such a amoral idiot was ever considered as a rising star of the Republican Party. His past and continuing talking like he is a Christian is unbelievably hypocritical.
It is very disappointing that so many rising stars are flaming out. Sanford needs to leave the stage so that we can figure out the viability of the candidates who are left.
I am reminded of the scene in the Leonardo DiCaprio movie “The Aviator” where his live-in girlfriend finds out that Howard Hughes has put a bunch of audio bugs in her room. When she confronts him on this betrayal, he reacts defensively and assures her that he never listened in on these bugs. He said that would never have done such a thing, but that he only read the transcripts. I don’t know if that’s a true story, but it captures the screwed up moral compass and the hubris of these corrupted individuals. They are almost sociopathic. At this point how could their wives and children still even live with them? Pretty scary.
Saw an arson investigator on TV once and he mentioned that if the husband’s stuff is in a big flaming pile on the lawn, it’s the wife. You think?
This thread is very instructive about why preachy “bible-thumpers” get nowhere with us “non-bible-thumpers”. It’s the holier-than-thou condescension. Don’t preach to us about virtue, SHOW us your virtue. Quoting chapter and verse from the Bible only bores us with your stunted intellectual breadth.
It’s like with fashion. Don’t tell us about it, we can make up our own minds by seeing how you dress. Even the most eloquent dung-encrusted slob can’t argue his way to being a fashion plate.
It is not our place to forgive Mark Sanford but if we do, we forgive the man, not the governor. He should resign as governor and go away, free to seek the redemption he craves without wasting our time with his tiring self-flagellation and moralizing. He should save it to “share” with an appropriate support group like a good metrosexual. They probably have a 12-step path to redemption.
We are looking for a man of good character to lead us. Mark Sanford is not that man. Now go away and leave us alone.
I do believe Mr. Humble just called his wife and mother of his sons a second stringer. Salvage his political career? Serial adultery did not hurt FDR, Kennedy or Clinton but no one expected more from them.
Class guy calling the mother of his sons a second stringer–let’s see how that plays out. I hope the lady gets a BAD divorce attorney and cleans his clock.
Don’t cry for me Argentina !
Well here is a clue Pasadena Phil -you don’t have one. We may bore you with our “stunted intellectual breadth” but that is a case of Mind over Matter: We don’t mind and you do not matter. Yes that is old, but so is your argument–older than you could possibly understand. Holier-than-thou? You don’t think you are, do you?
But perhaps someday you shall understand-Bible Thumping and all- it just isn’t my call to make.
And now Mr Macho is confessing to “crossing the line” with “a handful of women”…
…and here’s the best line…
What a complete ass.
It’s all about you isn’t Markie. Impeachment anyone?
In Love? The only things he speaks of are her Form and Her Skills. That’s sex folks that isn’t love, unless you are a confused adolescent boy. What was their main activity they engaged in together? What do the two of them do when they get together? SEX folks, and that isn’t Love that’s Lust.
They will whine and scream, but let the dogs howl the caravan moves on.
Dear Governor Sanford, Don’t let the door knob hit you, where the good lord split you.
what a slim…that comment about “trying to fall back in love with wife”, did he really say that? If he did, he’s working an angle in order to clean up his image, that way won’t work. Mrs. Sanford, throw him out for good. For you and the boys.
She’s 45(that’s young), haven’t seen a picture, but I doubt she’s a dog, she’s intelligent, appears to have many fine qualities, one being loyalty. There’s a lot of good men out there that would love to have a woman like her to share his life with.
How to teach your children about sin, repentance, and God’s love and forgiveness:
Have an affair, publicly humiliate your spouse, desert your children, lie to your friends, abdicate your duties, and steal from your employers. When caught, flagellate yourself while blubbering and sobbing on tv; apologize to, and beg the forgiveness of: God, Republicans, and everyone else in the western hemisphere; and finally, invoke convoluted logic to enable you to keep your job.
Btw, does anyone know if the guv has ever used a pen name, like…uh…JustifiedRight?
Over and out. ‘night.
AZN,
I’ve got to tell you that I was initially repulsed by Pasadena Phil’s comments. Go read them again more carefully (I had to). I think that he is criticizing people like Sanford who talk the talk but can’t walk the walk. Initially, I thought he was coming down on Christians, but now I think he is being critical of people using Bible language to cover over their sinful behavior.
Wow. A very honest assessment with which I can not disagree. She is attractive and smart. There’s a really blessed man out there awaiting her attentions and vice-versa. Jenny, it’s time to make a decision. You’re husband is psycho. Give him over to Miss Argentina. You deserve better.
Forgiveness should be done, JustifiedRight, when one is able to do this-the sooner the better. However, You obviously didn’t get the rest of my post: I have observed that for too many modern Christians “forgiveness” has become warped into “tolerance” for whatever makes them feel good; forgiveness is an absolute standard,but one that requires an expectation that justice will be rendered against the offender/sinner on Earth or in Heaven as the case may be.
Gov. Sanford, I think, has a very warped sense of what forgiveness is. Before he should demand it, he should show me, and more pertinently particularly his wife/children what he will do to prevent this from happening again, and he should not expect to parlay this episode into some kind of twisted personal gain.
It also means that as a leader he has no self-control, and is automatically incompetent to be a Governor.
JustifiedRight, have you not heard of the biblical verse of “…go forth, and sin no more” after one has been forgiven?
“So in the aftermath of this failure I want to not only apologize, but to commit to growing personally and spiritually.”
Ever notice that criminals and politicians (I really have a tough time these days even thinking of the two seperatly. LOL!) only have their very pulic “Come to Jesus” experiance AFTER they are caught? If he resigns, his soon to be ex should run for the job. She certainly has better morals then he does.
Mrs. Sanford needs to keep the serial adulterer away from her boys.
The ONLY way to witness to a wolrd tired of religion.
P.S. I may quote the Bible but more often then not, it is to correct someone who thinks they can live life by a single verse and not take the Word as a whole and expect others to live by their standard.
Sanford continues to lie about his affairs. Totally trashed his marriage vows. Asked his wife if he could continue his affair with the lady from Argentina. You can forgive him—but he should resign for lying to his costituents, his family, his staff, and the rest of the world. Foregiveness doesn’t mean you continue business as usual. You repent, rebuild trust, and then go on to something new.
I would rather talk about Michael Jackson than this butt-wipe. I don’t feel sorry for him. He’s a politician that was about to get caught so he hold. Who knows what else he’s been up to.
This is what conservative Republicans do. He’s cut from the same cloth.
Justified in your own mind, “standard of forgiveness” is a loopy term, and who cares? Nobody here is condeming someone to hell or death. We are advocating for Sanford to lose his job based on his own behavior. Hint: we the employers want to fire him for cause, get it?
You misread my statement. Sanford should lose his job, like Clinton should have lost his job. They both provably lied. That is why they should NOT be serving the people in any elected office. Period.
On July 1st, 2009 at 11:54 am, lgm said:
This is what conservative Republicans do. He’s cut from the same cloth.
lgm, you know damn well better than that. Anyone is capable of such behavior. Their political persuasion is irrelevant. You are either being intellectually dishonest or not intellectual at all.
Well, LGM, there is but 0ne problem with your statement: If Sanford did what he did..and yes indeed he did have an adulterous affair while on the taxpayer dime, then Sanford by definition is an imposter-a RINO.
Sanford is cut from your cloth, which is why he garners NO SUPPORT from me.
Bottom line. you cannot trust any politician.