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1. #201
   On July 1st, 2009 at 7:54 am, stillontheroad said:

   chapoutier said:

   Still does not explain why there were more voters than registered in the state.

2. #202
   On July 1st, 2009 at 7:59 am, ajmontana said:

   2008′ is by far the winner of Dumba$$ Voter Award.

3. #203
   On July 1st, 2009 at 8:13 am, chapoutier said:

   Still does not explain why there were more voters than registered in the state.

   Huh? who has made this claim?

   Look here.

   78.5% of eligible voters. Not over 100%. Now that doesn’t include registered voters, but MN has same day registration, and as you can see, the level of participation in this highly publicized election (both Senate and Presidential) is only slightly higher than the turnout for 2004.

4. #204
   On July 1st, 2009 at 8:15 am, chapoutier said:

   If you take registered voters, it is about 91% turnout. Still way less than 100.1%

5. #205
   On July 1st, 2009 at 8:19 am, chapoutier said:

   In fact, turnout was actually LOWER than what they were expecting.

   Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie predicts at least 80 percent of the state’s eligible voters will show up at the polls on Tuesday.

6. #206
   On July 1st, 2009 at 8:23 am, MtsEdge said:

   On June 30th, 2009 at 6:44 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   Thank you.

   Coleman concedes what he previously thought was a result that created “disenfranchisement.” What, he changed his mind and now it’s not voter disenfranchisement?

   Is this how he stands up for what is right?

7. #207
   On July 1st, 2009 at 8:24 am, MtsEdge said:

   I’m so sick of these RINOs playing gentlemen, at our expense. RE John McCain’s entire presidential campaign.

8. #208
   On July 1st, 2009 at 8:42 am, babbledabble said:

   Must be something in the MN air. Electing wrestlers & comedians to represent the state. Aren’t there any semi-normal politicians in MN? Or is that an oxymoron? Weird.

9. #209
   On July 1st, 2009 at 9:30 am, sonofdy said:

   With a massive majority in the house and a filibuster proof senate AND obama in the white house, will the dems FINALLY stop blaming everything on the GOP????

10. #210
    On July 1st, 2009 at 10:25 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    chapoutier said:

    In fact, turnout was actually LOWER than what they were expecting.

    What I recall that was questionable is that in a particular area where Franken didn’t have strong support, he gained votes on Coleman. I’d say at the very least, that is suspicious. I have yet to find the article that mentioned it though.

    And in many cases… they seemed to be finding votes for Franken, but little if any for Coleman.

    From HotAir:

    Just as Secretary of State Mark Ritchie was explaining to reporters the recount process in one of the narrowest elections in Minnesota history, an aide rushed in with news: Pine County’s Partridge Township had revised its vote total upward — another 100 votes for Democratic candidate Al Franken, putting him within .011 percentage points of Republican U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman.

    The reason for the change? Exhausted county officials had accidentally entered 24 for Franken instead of 124 when the county’s final votes were tallied at 5:25 Wednesday morning.

    Is this legitimate? A few precincts do not use the optical-scan ballot, and apparently Patridge Township is one of them. Leaving off a digit in a vote count can happen when tallying by hand. Still, as the days wore on this week, all of those “corrections” appeared to be going in a single direction — towards Franken.

    Hot off the press, the first apparent evidence of fraud. Last night at around 7:30, a precinct in Mountain Iron, St. Louis County, mysteriously updated its vote total to add 100 new votes–all 100 for Barack Obama and Al Franken.

    Mountain Iron uses optical scanning, so the Coleman campaign asked for a copy of the tape documenting the ballots cast on election night. St. Louis County responded by providing a tape that includes the newly-added 100 votes, and is dated November 2–the Sunday before the election. St. Louis County reportedly denies being able to produce the genuine tape from election night, even though Minnesota law, as I understand it, requires that tape to be signed by the election judges and publicly displayed.

    So I have my doubts as to the legitimacy of the re-worked vote tally.

11. #211
    On July 1st, 2009 at 11:19 am, chapoutier said:

    Re: the time stamp issue. Officials noticed the day of the election that the stamp was wrong, but they could not change it at that point. It was not, as Hot Air said, officials “denying” access to the actual tape. That was the actual tape with the wrong date.

    Re:
    

    Still, as the days wore on this week, all of those “corrections” appeared to be going in a single direction — towards Franken.

    That is just wrong. Plenty of times Coleman increased his lead during the recount. I recall in the days after the election following the Star Tribune’s running tally as precincts recounted and submitted their results. It was a roller coaster.

    Again, all these precincts had, for lack of a better term, sign in sheets. In every instance of “found votes”, such as in the example of the 124/24 votes, the revised vote totals correlated with the independently gathered voter tallies on the sign in.

12. #212
    On July 1st, 2009 at 12:58 pm, shimauma2 said:

    and this is what coleman gets for his pansy ass libtard votes. He was a Rino in true form

13. #213
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pm, Major O said:

    So a US court speaks, the Congress agrees and Franken is seated and everyone is happen.

    A court and congress in a foreign country speak, Obama disagrees with them and he decides they are out of line and in doing so Obama lines himself up with Castro and Chavez.

    Wow.

    Most excellent point. How does Obama defend this?

14. #214
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Most excellent point. How does Obama defend this?

    He doesn’t have to. He is God.

    By the way, it just hit me…Norm Coleman has lost elections to both Al F’ing Franken AND Jesse Ventura. Now THAT is what you call a LOSER!

15. #215
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Socky said:

    Minnesota has a system of “same day registration,” where you can show up, register, and vote on the spot. All you need is a school ID or even a utility bill or rental receipt, which are easy to fake (not that anyone will be checking). It’s a system ripe for abuse. It’s only too easy for out-of-state college students or a couple busloads of ACORN voters from Chicago to be parachuted into marginal precincts to up the vote for the Demonrats.

16. #216
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:32 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Socky said:
    Minnesota has a system of “same day registration,” where you can show up, register, and vote on the spot. All you need is a school ID or even a utility bill or rental receipt, which are easy to fake (not that anyone will be checking). It’s a system ripe for abuse. It’s only too easy for out-of-state college students or a couple busloads of ACORN voters from Chicago to be parachuted into marginal precincts to up the vote for the Demonrats.

    HOW, in the name of all that is sane, did we come to this level of stupidity? If we lose the integrity of our elections, we lose everything! Apparently, we have all been sitting around with our heads in the sand (or elsewhere), just letting it all happen.

17. #217
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:33 pm, Socky said:

    We got here because Demonrats wanted to make voting easier, in full knowledge that when you make voting easier, you make vote fraud easier. (Don’t believe for a second they didn’t know exactly what they were doing.)

18. #218
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm, chapoutier said:

    All you need is a school ID or even a utility bill or rental receipt, which are easy to fake (not that anyone will be checking)

    Not true. A student ID is only valid if the school has presented a student housing list to election officials. And a utility bill only comes into play if you can also present one of the following:

    * Minnesota Driver’s License
    * Minnesota ID Card
    * United States Passport
    * United States Military ID Card
    * Tribal ID Card
    * Minnesota University, College, or Technical College ID Card

    Presumably this is for MN residents who HAVE VALID ID, but have recently moved to a new address.

19. #219
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:38 pm, chapoutier said:

    Correction to above. The ID may be expired, but point being that you can’t just hand over a utility bill and stroll over to the voting booth.

20. #220
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:43 pm, Socky said:

    Yeah, chap like anyone is going to go back and check after the election. You know damn well they won’t. And most any form of ID on the list will be quite easy to fake.

    You also conveniently leave two other forms of “ID” off your list.

    - A voter registered in the same precinct as you who can confirm your address with a signed oath
    - An employee of the residential facility where you live who can confirm your address with a signed oath

    I am sure your helpful local ACORN worker will be happy to provide such a signed oath.

21. #221
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:45 pm, Socky said:

    BTW, the Bureau of the Census has given the city of Detroit 81,000 imaginary residents. That’s 81,000 imaginary voters for ACORN to bring to the next election.

22. #222
    On July 1st, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Major O said:

    And speaking of ACORN…

    What the devil is ACORN doing being involved seemingly EVERYWHERE on our tax dollars????

    I’m so utterly SICK and TIRED of this left wing front group parading around being involved in any old thing they please with zero repercussions in terms of their funding or status. All the while they are over and over found committing fraud.

    Let someone on the Left defend this ridiculous piece of garbage organization if they will.

23. #223
    On July 1st, 2009 at 2:21 pm, chapoutier said:

    Socky,

    You claimed that same day voting entailed simply having a utility bill or a student ID, both of which were demonstrably false, if you had taken five seconds, as I did to actually look at the requirements.

    I made no other argument as to any other provisions of MN’s same day registration requirements. Don’t pretend I did, and then attack the false argument ascribed to me (strawman) to draw attention away from your own incorrect assumptions.

24. #224
    On July 1st, 2009 at 2:38 pm, Socky said:

    My assertion was that Minnesota makes it easy to commit voter fraud by allowing same day voting registration with non-verifiable ID. This assertion is completely accurate.

25. #225
    On July 1st, 2009 at 2:43 pm, chapoutier said:

    My assertion was that Minnesota makes it easy to commit voter fraud by allowing same day voting registration with non-verifiable ID. This assertion is completely accurate.

    Your words exactly follow:

    All you need is a school ID or even a utility bill or rental receipt, which are easy to fake (not that anyone will be checking).

    Usually people back up their assertions with factual examples. But hey, I guess making crap up out of thin air is fine, so long as you believe in the message.

26. #226
    On July 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 am, tbear44 said:

    chappy sez:
    

    Usually people back up their assertions with factual examples. But hey, I guess making crap up out of thin air is fine, so long as you believe in the message.

    Yes, any Obamabot will tell you that is true.

27. #227
    On July 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 am, love2rumba said:

    I’m so sick of these RINOs playing gentlemen, at our expense. RE John McCain’s entire presidential campaign.

    My sentiment exactly.

28. #228
    On July 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 am, love2rumba said:

    Minnesota has a system of “same day registration,” where you can show up, register, and vote on the spot. All you need is a school ID or even a utility bill or rental receipt, which are easy to fake (not that anyone will be checking). It’s a system ripe for abuse. It’s only too easy for out-of-state college students or a couple busloads of ACORN voters from Chicago to be parachuted into marginal precincts to up the vote for the Demonrats.

    They wouldn’t allow us to get our passport that way and just hop on a plane the same day, why should voter registration be any different?