Culture of corruption watch: “Put nothing in writing…ever”

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 9, 2009 10:42 AM


Same old, same old.

Well, you were warned.

In December, I raised the alarm over Obama eco-czar’s transparency-undermining, document-deleting habits.

I wrote back then: “If fiscal conservatives, sound science advocates, and businesses don’t raise a stink about Browner’s crooked background, they deserve everything that’s coming to them.”

Now, Mark Tapscott at the Examiner reports:

Carol Browner, former Clinton administration EPA head and current Obama White House climate czar, instructed auto industry execs “to put nothing in writing, ever” regarding secret negotiations she orchestrated regarding a deal to increase federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-WI, is demanding a congressional investigation of Browner’s conduct in the CAFE talks, saying in a letter to Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA, that Browner “intended to leave little or no documentation of the deliberations that lead to stringent new CAFE standards.”

Federal law requires officials to preserve documents concerning significant policy decisions, so instructing participants in a policy negotation concerning a major federal policy change could be viewed as a criminal act.

Waxman is chairman of the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming. Sensenbrenner is the ranking Republican member of the panel.

Browner’s informal directive was previously reported by The New York Times. Sensebrenner’s letter is being made public tomorrow. A copy was made available to The Examiner by an official with knowledge of the controversy.

Old sunshine-dodging habits die hard.

Obama lied, transparency died.

Corruptocrat business as usual in the Age of Obama.

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  1. #740904
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am, tiredofit08 said:

    truly disgusting…transparency only when it suits their cause…

  2. #740905
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am, happyscrapper said:

    The house of cards is starting to fall. Stock up on popcorn.

  3. #740908
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am, Misscheryl said:

    My husband and I were discussing laws of the land last night. Our conversation was defined as “but that was before-Obama” you know, when we were a nation of laws vs “now” when laws don’t matter. From the top down.

  4. #740909
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am, happyscrapper said:

    I’m serious. They think they can continue to get away with these things. But more and more people are starting to notice, in spite of the MSM cover-ups! This administration is going down. 2010 will start a whole new ball game.

  5. #740910
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am, Misscheryl said:

    10:46 am, happyscrapper said:
    The house of cards is starting to fall. Stock up on popcorn ammo.

    FIFY

  6. #740912
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am, Cowboy said:

    Hey Pelosi, what was that about the culture of corruption?

  7. #740914
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am, TheWriteJerry said:

    We are well into the Age of Do As I Say, Not As I Do or Write Down or Promise or Hint At or Prepare You For…

  8. #740915
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am, Salt said:

    Perhaps a bit OT, but what is with naming people “czars”? I get the colloquial connotation, but the denotative meaning is terrible. Our American forefathers would likely have a fit if they knew we were giving government officials monarchy titles.

    If nothing else, Browner’s attitude underscores this. She behaves as if she really is a Czar.

  9. #740919
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    I can see clearly now, the rain is gone,
    I can see all obstacles in my way
    Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
    It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
    Sun-Shiny day.

    (munching popcorn) More cheese Gromit!

  10. #740922
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am, happyscrapper said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am, Misscheryl said:
    10:46 am, happyscrapper said:
    The house of cards is starting to fall. Stock up on popcorn ammo.
    FIFY

    Oh, yeah…that too!!

  11. #740925
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:59 am, happyscrapper said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:
    I can see clearly now, the rain is gone,
    I can see all obstacles in my way
    Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
    It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
    Sun-Shiny day.

    (munching popcorn) More cheese Gromit!

    SMILE! Yes, these people are becoming more transparent, even as they try to hide their corruption. The truth will out.

  12. #740933
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am, Salt said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:59 am, happyscrapper said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    (munching popcorn) More cheese Gromit!

    SMILE! Yes, these people are becoming more transparent, even as they try to hide their corruption. The truth will out.

    When even Helen Thomas complains about the lack of transparency of this administration, you know the shine is starting to fade.

  13. #740935
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:04 am, spaceycakes said:

    Don’t worry–they’ll get what’s comin’ to ‘em.

    40 lashes with the mink whip.

    Compliments of Barney Frank’s basement store.

  14. #740938
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:04 am, spaceycakes said:
    Don’t worry–they’ll get what’s comin’ to ‘em.

    40 lashes with the mink whip.

    Compliments of Barney Frank’s basement store.

    “You’re my type, baby. A woman!”
    - Larry (THREE ARABIAN NUTS, 1951)

  15. #740945
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am, spaceycakes said:

    Rogue, don’t make me get the sable cuffs…

  16. #740951
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am, Flyoverman said:

    Browner has been corrupt since her first appearance in Washington over ten years ago during the Clinton Administration.

    I was really irritated and disappointed that Republicans rolled over and let her get confirmed. She’s criminal in her porfessional conduct, period.

  17. #740955
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am, spaceycakes said:
    Rogue, don’t make me get the sable cuffs…

    “Boy, did I pick me a double order of skunk!” “She thinks it’s ermine.”
    - Moe and Lucille Ball (THREE LITTLE PIGSKINS, 1934)

  18. #740958
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am, Flyoverman said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am, Salt said:

    Perhaps a bit OT, but what is with naming people “czars”? I get the colloquial connotation, but the denotative meaning is terrible.

    Not if you are the communist making the appointment.

  19. #740963
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:18 am, ErinF said:

    I’ve been watching the series “John Adams” with my 11 year old son. Anyone else here who’s seen it knows what I’m talking about when I say the dems running this country need to be publicly tarred and feathered.

  20. #740964
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:22 am, Azygos said:

    Obama has appointed 30+ politburo “Czars” and no one sees the problem with this?

    There are not accountable to the people or the senate/congress. Arm yourselves and stock ammo, its going to be a long imperial presidency.

  21. #740966
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am, prendad said:

    More lies, more corruption, followed by more waste, more over-spending, followed by more lies, more arrogance, more corruption, more waste, more czars (whatever the hell they are), more belligerence, more Acorn, more cover-ups, and finally. . . . “WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE”?

  22. #740969
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am, DagneyT said:

    climate czar, instructed auto industry execs “to put nothing in writing, ever”

    That little instruction would prompt me to keep a private ledger! CYA, execs

  23. #740972
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:26 am, RTater said:
  24. #740974
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:26 am, Misscheryl said:

    ..its going to be a long imperial presidency..

    And probably much longer than we can imagine. I’m sure plans are in the works to eliminate presidential term limits..”

    Mark.My.Words.

  25. #740976
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am, DagneyT said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am, Salt said:

    Perhaps a bit OT, but what is with naming people “czars”? I get the colloquial connotation, but the denotative meaning is terrible.

    Since there is no congressional oversight of the now 37 czars, I think the nomenclature is quite apt!

  26. #740979
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am, RTater said:

    Prendad – Which birth certificate would you like? The one that says he was born in Queen’s Medical Center, or the one that says he was born in Kapi’olani Medical Medical Center for Women and Children?

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103465

  27. #740978
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am, DagneyT said:

    I was really irritated and disappointed that Republicans rolled over and let her get confirmed

    Czars don’t have to be confirmed!

  28. #740983
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am, spaceycakes said:

    That’s why the use the term ‘Czar’ instead of ‘Tsar’.

    The ‘C’ is smoother & you end up saving on petroleum jelly.

  29. #740990
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am, prendad said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am, RTater said:
    Prendad – Which birth certificate would you like?

    Looks like Obama’s “REAL” birthplace changes faster than a Chicago Commodities Exchange Gold Future.

  30. #740992
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am, BOB said:

    I’m amazed the birth certifcate issue is so ignored. Persuing this could get us crazy Joe for president….bad, but a huge improvement. Anything else means we must wait until 2010 for any relief. Can you imagine the damage that can be done it that amount of time?

  31. #740994
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am, fulldroolcup said:

    I’m waiting for our in-house counsel wannabe Chapoutier to chime in that Obama promosed transparency, but said nothing about the transparency of his cabinet members, czars and czarinas.

    Nuance!

    Right, chap?

    I’m also reminded that Woody Allen once said the Russian Revolution began when people began arguing whether the Czar and the Tsar were the same person.

  32. #740995
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am, DBNinKY said:

    Carol Browner, former Clinton administration EPA head and current Obama White House climate czar, instructed auto industry execs “to put nothing in writing, ever” regarding secret negotiations she orchestrated regarding a deal to increase federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards.

    Remember the shine libs and the media cut about VP Cheney’s supposedly super-secret meeting w/ some energy execs? Well, where are those outraged voices about this?

  33. #740996
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am, conservativesRus said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am, DagneyT said:

    climate czar, instructed auto industry execs “to put nothing in writing, ever”

    That little instruction would prompt me to keep a private ledger! CYA, execs

    In my past corporate life, more than one “top dog” has been buried by unknown notes. We can only hope (is that a viable word any longer?) that somebody was in self preservation mode and in fact did keep some private notes (and then made sure they were properly “dated and vaulted”. (”dated and vaulted” – put in an envelope and mail to yourself – USPS then is kind enough to postmark the envelope with the date and location. Don’t open upon receipt. Save till needed.)

  34. #740997
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am, WarTip said:

    Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-WI, is demanding a congressional investigation of Browner’s conduct in the CAFE talks, saying in a letter to Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA, that Browner “intended to leave little or no documentation of the deliberations that lead to stringent new CAFE standards.”

    Federal law requires officials to preserve documents concerning significant policy decisions, so instructing participants in a policy negotation concerning a major federal policy change could be viewed as a criminal act.

    Only if it were committed by a Republican who was not in lock-step with the Administration and had thus found themselves in disfavor with Obama.

    Just sayin’

  35. #741003
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    As with all your future weapons and ammo purchases-NOTHING ON PAPER. Carol Browner is one more fascist thug I dearly hope I live long enough to see hanged. With these new synthetic fiber ropes you can hang fascist all day long with little or no replacement down time. That or William Ayres hangs us.

    The ‘C’ is smoother & you end up saving on petroleum jelly.

    :shock:

    Note to self: do not mess with spaceycakes.

  36. #741006
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am, sonofdy said:

    Obama White House climate czar, instructed auto industry execs “to put nothing in writing, ever” regarding secret negotiations she orchestrated regarding a deal to increase federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards.

    Why do I get the impression that her first words were, “You will do this!!!”

  37. #741007
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am, spaceycakes said:

    The ‘C’ is smoother & you end up saving on petroleum jelly.

    “Oh, deer!” “… I didn’t think you cared.” “I don’t!” [smack!]
    - Moe & Curly (WHOOPS, I’M AN INDIAN!, 1936)

  38. #741011
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, By Choice said:

    I wouldn’t talk to a single one of these “C/Tsars” without a tape recorder in my pocket. CYA when you deal with the devil!

  39. #741017
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

    Her name has been removed from the Gore organization’s Web site list of directors, and the Audubon Society issued a press release about her departure from that organization.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/

    Just a reminder…

    Socialist, enviro-whacko, Clintonista, AND lobbyist.

    Just what THE ONE ordered!!!!

  40. #741020
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, spaceycakes said:

    LOL Az & Rogue.

    “If a military man like you, a soldier, er, could you give a man a lethal blow?”
    “If I was forced to, I could. If it was absolutely necessary, if he was attacking me.”
    “If he was coming, really hard?”
    “Yeah, if my life was in danger, yeah.”
    “And do you always imagine doing it face to face with a bloke, or could you take man from behind?”
    “Either ways easy.”
    “So you could take a man from behind?”
    “Yeah.”
    “Lovely.”

    Tim and Gareth/BBC’s ‘The Office’

  41. #741021
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm, Ragspierre said:

    http://www.capitalresearch.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/browner_si.pdf

    The now-expunged web-site from the Socialist International.

  42. #741022
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm, cheapseat said:

    my 2012 pres ticket for the conservative party rove/palin. brains, beauty, common sense, articulate and proven not corrupt.

  43. #741024
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Perhaps a bit OT, but what is with naming people “czars”? I get the colloquial connotation, but the denotative meaning is terrible.

    Well, if Wikipedia can be believed, evidently, thanks go to VP Slow Joe:

    The ‘czar’ title was first used to refer to an appointed government official in a Time Magazine article in December 1973, referring to William E. Simon’s appointment as the head of the Federal Energy Administration.[1] The ‘drug czar’ title was first published in a 1982 news story quoting Joe Biden by United Press International which reported that “Senators… voted 62-34 to establish a ‘drug czar’ who would have overall responsibility for U.S. drug policy.”[2] Since then, several ad hoc executive positions in both the United States and United Kingdom have been established which have been subsequently referred to in this manner.

  44. #741026
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Oops, I guess that refers to “drug czar” only for Slow Joe.

  45. #741028
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, spaceycakes said:

    LOL Az & Rogue.

    In infantry school there was a saying: “I do not care what your mother said or what you saw in the movies-shoot them in the back-it is easier that way”.

    Have a nice day spaceycakes.

  46. #741029
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Send_Me said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am, happyscrapper said:
    I’m serious. They think they can continue to get away with these things. But more and more people are starting to notice, in spite of the MSM cover-ups! This administration is going down. 2010 will start a whole new ball game.

    Such thinking is a bit optimistic, at best, and delusional, at worst.
    1. Neither Republicans nor Democrats care about the “conservative” vote, because both Republicans and Democrats know you won’t vote Democrat or “waste your vote” on a third-party candidate.
    2. Fewer and fewer citizens actually care about what the Constitution says, hence giving license to Congress and the President to go against it.
    3. Both the President and Congress know that Americans citizens will go with whatever they do in the end, despite all the protests, all the handwringing we may see. Those in charge know that the American people are sheep who only care insofar as their cable to see Michael Jackson works, their water is running, and they can still go out to eat. Americans have been conditioned for the last how many decades to think that government is here to help with all problems, something like the Stanford Prison Experiment.
    “A quiet revolution can be dispersed throughout a culture over a period of time to destroy it from within. Mass psychology and media can break the traditions, beliefs and morals and the will of a nation so there is no possibility of resistance.” ~ Antonio Gramsci
    “We are obliged… to make amusement a weapon of collective education. The cinema competes with the church. This rivalry may become fatal for the church. The cinema liberates you from the need of crossing the church door. Here is an instrument we must secure at all costs.” ~ Severneya Pravda

  47. #741033
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am, BOB said:
    I’m amazed the birth certifcate issue is so ignored. Persuing this could get us crazy Joe for president….bad, but a huge improvement. Anything else means we must wait until 2010 for any relief. Can you imagine the damage that can be done it that amount of time?

    Even our own Michelle Malkin won’t address the issue. I know that we are ridiculed as “truthers” when we bring it up, but I believe there is a huge cover-up on this, and why would there be, except he is hiding something very very big. This has to be resolved once and for all. Why won’t he resolve it? Because he is hiding the fact he is not a natural-born citizen of the U.S. What other explanation could there be? If he is legit, he would show proof. The fact that he won’t, is proof enough for me.

    Also, ACORN.MUST.BE.STOPPED!!

  48. #741037
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    Carol Browner, former Clinton administration EPA head and current Obama White House climate czar, instructed auto industry execs “to put nothing in writing, ever” regarding secret negotiations she orchestrated regarding a deal to increase federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards.

    This is just another manifestation of why many people, including me, will NEVER buy another car from bail out failures, GM and Chrysler.

  49. #741042
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, In infantry school there was a saying: “I do not care what your mother said or what you saw in the movies-shoot them in the back-it is easier that way”.

    Billy Ray Smith – “You shot that man in the back!”

    Van Leek – “His back was to me.”

    (Scene from El Diablo between Anthony Edwards and Lou Gossett, Jr.)

    ECS

  50. #741045
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Send_Me said:
    Such thinking is a bit optimistic, at best, and delusional, at worst.

    Calling happyscrapper “delusional”? Them’s fightin’ words! It is not delusional to have a some glimmer of hope. I am realistic about what is going on. But I also know that some light is being shined on the cockroaches and they will soon have to scatter toward their dark corners. We can then catch a few and squash them.

  51. #741048
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, infidel4life said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am, Misscheryl said:

    From the top down.

    This needs to be shouted from the mountaintops. Every lie, every tactic of deception, every instance of circumvention of the Constitution, every iceberg-tip of corruption, by a subordinate in this administration or a Dem in Congress, is sanctioned and endorsed by the man at the top. This isn’t just a comedy of clueless buffoons mishandling things (perhaps it’s Biden’s job to deliberately create that impression), this is a well thought out campaign to ram Socialism down our throats ASAP.

  52. #741061
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:17 pm, Send_Me said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, happyscrapper said:
    We can then catch a few and squash them.

    How do you define “squash”? If John Murtha, among others in a Congress that had a 13% approval rating, can get reelected, then I don’t have much faith in the American citizenry.

  53. #741082
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm, John Deaux said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Send_Me said:

    2. Fewer and fewer citizens actually care about know what the Constitution says, hence giving license to Congress and the President to go against it.

    You have public school to thank.

  54. #741083
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm, happyscrapper said:

    How do you define “squash”? If John Murtha, among others in a Congress that had a 13% approval rating, can get reelected, then I don’t have much faith in the American citizenry.

    Those of us with brains and common sense need to speak up, connect up, get busy with political action, etc. There are a lot of us out there. We just need some leaders. I believe Sarah Palin is planning to be one of the conservative leaders and is even now going around the lower 48 and speaking up. Why did she quit? For that reason! Just wait. Once we get some leadership, we can organize and make a huge difference.

  55. #741094
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    I think Obama really admires Bill Clinton because he’s hired so many of Clinton’s boys and girls to fill out all of his made-up C/Tzar jobs. And all of these jobs are really “shovel ready”. Gag, gag, gag–is this nightmare ever going to stop!!

  56. #741097
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Remember Obama’s promises of “open, transparent, and accountable” government?

    He is the leader of the “Culture of Corruption“.

  57. #741105
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm, Socky said:

    Gosh, no comments yet from lgm or Rest Stop Septic… wonder why that is?

  58. #741106
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, shooter said:

    Must read: Rove’s article today on obama’s continuing deception.

  59. #741108
    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm, Regulus said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am, happyscrapper said:

    The house of cards is starting to fall. Stock up on popcorn.

    Forget the popcorn. I don’t want to be a spectator in making sure that Hope-a-Dope’s reliving of Jimmy Carter’s one-term occupation of the White House.

    Pull out the grappling hooks and rope, sledge hammers and axes, torches and pitch. For those who declare their own little war on the Republic, war is what they need to receive in reply.

  60. #741121
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, beachmom said:

    No one with the power to is going to do anything to her.
    They’ll just have her go on vacation or lay low for a couple of months.

  61. #741133
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, orlandocajun said:

    Hey folks…it’s all part of the Chosen One’s transparency in government plan. Let’s all bend over and grab our ankles cause it ain’t over yet.

  62. #741162
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    …if I’m bending over, it’s to get off a better shot.

    POW!

  63. #741186
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm, BOB said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, happyscrapper said:
    Even our own Michelle Malkin won’t address the issue. I know that we are ridiculed as “truthers” when we bring it up, but I believe there is a huge cover-up on this, and why would there be, except he is hiding something very very big. This has to be resolved once and for all. Why won’t he resolve it? Because he is hiding the fact he is not a natural-born citizen of the U.S. What other explanation could there be? If he is legit, he would show proof. The fact that he won’t, is proof enough for me.

    Does anyone know of a logical explanation for Obama’s hiding every record that might reveal his true place of birth and/or citizenship other than he doesn’t meet the requirements of being a natural born citizen?

    If there is one I’d like to hear it.

  64. #741197
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Does anyone know of a logical explanation for Obama’s hiding every record that might reveal his true place of birth and/or citizenship other than he doesn’t meet the requirements of being a natural born citizen?

    If there is one I’d like to hear it.

    I’d like to hear what Michelle Malkin has to say on that. We need a logical explanation. So far, none has been forthcoming from anyone.

  65. #741198
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Does anyone know of a logical explanation for Obama’s hiding every record that might reveal his true place of birth

    He doesn’t want us to know he wasn’t aborted…

    ba-dum CLANG

  66. #741200
    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Does anyone know of a logical explanation for Obama’s hiding every record that might reveal his true place of birth?

    On July 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, spaceycakes said:
    He doesn’t want us to know he wasn’t aborted…

    ba-dum CLANG

    Ha! My vote for comment of the week!

  67. #741215
    On July 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    To be fair – if she later has to stuff stolen documents in her pantyhose, it’ll ruin her “look”. Sandy Burgler didn’t have to worry about that.

    I’m shocked though – a corrupt Clinton-era appointee?

  68. #741223
    On July 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    You know, if you color her hair grey, and turn that smile into a Gaulic sneer, she’d look like John F’n. Kerry.
    I’m just sayin’.

  69. #741294
    On July 9th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, right_on said:

    You know, if you color her hair grey, and turn that smile into a Gaulic sneer, she’d look like John F’n. Kerry.

    Great minds think alike…you and me, that is! :)

    I hadn’t read your post above, yet, but when I saw that picture of Brown(nose)r, I reflected to myself that she really did look like Kerry, and I wondered if it was his sister. Who’da thunk?

  70. #741323
    On July 9th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, reshas1 said:

    I’ve been trying to find an email for Browner, can’t find one anywhere.. Has anyone come up with one? I want to email the idiot.

  71. #741368
    On July 9th, 2009 at 7:14 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    Transparency! If this administration gets any more transparent, it’s………

    I’m trying to think of a good comparison, but when there hasn’t been any there’s nothing to compare it to.

  72. #741383
    On July 9th, 2009 at 7:37 pm, Jeff said:

    You have public school to thank.

    Goldwater Institute survey of high school students…
    1.6% think Obama is first POTUS ever. Only 23% correctly named both houses of Congress… The research is a pdf file. Sad , indeed…Freedom from Responsibility.

    http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/article/3211

  73. #741391
    On July 9th, 2009 at 7:46 pm, Jeff said:

    Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1789 that “Whenever the people are well-informed,
    they can be trusted with their own government.” Years later, Jefferson wrote, “Enlighten
    the people generally and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will
    vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.”
    The promotion of knowledge of American government and history represents
    a core mission of Arizona public schools. They are failing miserably to fulfill that
    mission. Arizona high school students display a profound level of ignorance regarding
    American history, government and geography.
    The results of this survey are deeply troubling. Despite billions of taxpayer dollars
    and a set of academic standards that cover all of the material, Arizona high
    school students display an overwhelming ignorance of the institutions that undergird
    political freedom.
    The students in this survey have taken multiple classes in social studies and history.
    If they had failed these courses, chances are good that they would not have
    made it into high school, and thus into the survey sample. Of course, the vast
    majority of these students never failed, but were simply passed on to the next grade
    whether they actually mastered any material or not.

    9% knew there are 9 justices on the Supreme Court…
    Is your state doing a better job?
    :shock:
    BTW and OT: Just started taking college classes and, in an Intro. to Health Care Class; my instructor did not even know about S-CHIP. She was discussing publicly financed health-care !
    I made it a teaching moment for her…We’ll see what kind of grade I get, though…

  74. #741409
    On July 9th, 2009 at 8:28 pm, infidel4life said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 7:46 pm, Jeff said:

    Despite billions of taxpayer dollars and a set of academic standards that cover all of the material…

    Obviously Liberal educators aren’t interested in meeting those standards. The more ignorant young people are about history and how government is supposed to work the more likely they will swallow lefty propaganda without questioning it.

  75. #741411
    On July 9th, 2009 at 8:28 pm, purplepeep said:

    “Put nothing in writing…ever”

    With Obama and fellow leftists insisting Congress not read anything, would it really matter anyway if they do put it in writing?

  76. #741486
    On July 9th, 2009 at 10:47 pm, granite said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    You know, if you color her hair grey, and turn that smile into a Gaulic sneer, she’d look like John F’n. Kerry.
    I’m just sayin’.

    I had exactly the same thought a few minutes before I read your post!!!

  77. #741494
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:08 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am, BOB said:

    I’m amazed the birth certifcate issue is so ignored. Persuing this could get us crazy Joe for president…bad, but a huge improvement.

    Showing that Obama is a usurper, and removing him from office for that crime, would nullify all of the actions of this administration that carry Obama’s signature. I call that a huge improvement.

    Obama openly admits that he was born a British subject.

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

    The “natural born citizen” requirement appears to be the direct result of John Jay’s letter to George Washington, which said:

    “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

    Does anyone really believe that John Jay (the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court) and George Washington would accept as Commander in Chief of the American military a man who, by both “Natural law” and British law, was a British citizen at birth?

    If so, please explain how a Natural Born Citizen of the United States can be governed – at birth – by the laws of another country.

  78. #741501
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:24 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Does anyone really believe that John Jay (the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court) and George Washington would accept as Commander in Chief of the American military a man who, by both “Natural law” and British law, was a British citizen at birth?

    (Other than those who were U.S. citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, of course.)

    No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

    The founders made it clear that “natural born Citizen” was a subset of “Citizen”. They are not equivalent terms. Being born on U.S. soil makes you a U.S. citizen (by the 14th amendment), but it does not automatically make you a “natural born Citizen”.

    What is a “natural born Citizen”?

    natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

    By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular

  79. #741503
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:25 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    But even those who believe that birth on U.S. soil is all that is required to be a “Natural Born Citizen”, must admit that Annenberg Political Fact Check did not tell the truth when they claimed they examined Obama’s “original birth certificate” and they did not tell the truth when they claimed “The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu”.

    How about some honesty?

    How about some openness?

    How about some transparency?

    How about some accountability?

  80. #741504
    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:26 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Remember Obama’s promises of “open, transparent, and accountable” government?

    Promises, promises.

    Words, just words.

  81. #741580
    On July 10th, 2009 at 4:31 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 11:26 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Remember Obama’s promises of “open, transparent, and accountable” government?

    Promises, promises.

    Words, just words.

    The Truth is a Lie? Fits nicely with Slavery is Freedom. Carol Browner: former Clinton administration current Obamination. She could be Kerry’s mother or Kerry could be a mother.

  82. #741581
    On July 10th, 2009 at 4:32 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On July 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm, Socky said:

    Gosh, no comments yet from lgm or Rest Stop Septic… wonder why that is?

    Because these people only think that the conservatives have to be honest. And when conservatives are honest they refuse to believe it and accuse them of lying.

    For the liberal office holder the left accepts lies, deceit, dishonesty, corruption, moral malfeasance, perversion, and thief as completely acceptable and in many cases such as Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Ted Kennedy, the left considers these to be admirable traits.

    Now the average conservative would claim that this is hypocrisy, and all I can say is that you’re right.

  83. #741635
    On July 10th, 2009 at 8:18 am, BOB said:

    ITookTheRedPill,

    Thanks for the information on the issue of Obama’s eligibility. Until this is cleared up it should remain front and center as a topic of discussion. No one has come forth with a logical explanation for Obama’s secrecy of his past, especially anything that would likely have on it his birthplace and/or claimed citizenship.

    During one call to my Senator’s office the office assistant stated Obama was “vetted”.
    What exactly does the mean? I would like to know who did the vetting, what questions were asked and what information was viewed to determine his eligibility.

    Here’s a possible scenario IMO. There is no eligibility requirement to run for president, only to actually hold the office of president. The vetting, whatever it was, did not take place until it was obvious that Obama was going to be the Democrat nominee, and likely the next president. At that point in time the fear of the consequences of uncovering his ineligibility overrode any meaningful look into his eligibility.

    Now there seems to be a fear of looking into the issue, it’s as if we must now accept an illegal president and just keep quiet about it.

  84. #741650
    On July 10th, 2009 at 8:55 am, Misscheryl said:

    eeeeGADS! She does look like John Kerry!

  85. #741690
    On July 10th, 2009 at 10:14 am, misterbee241 said:

    So why did people think they were going to get anything different (transparency) from a Chicago Democrat?

  86. #741701
    On July 10th, 2009 at 10:30 am, spaceycakes said:

    She does look like John Kerry!

    Is she also married to a Mozambican poseur, who was previously wed to some large important American family & now pretends he is ‘heir’ to a fortune?

  87. #741988
    On July 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On July 10th, 2009 at 8:18 am, BOB said:

    ITookTheRedPill,

    Thanks for the information on the issue of Obama’s eligibility.

    You’re welcome.

    Until this is cleared up it should remain front and center as a topic of discussion.

    I agree 100%.

    No one has come forth with a logical explanation for Obama’s secrecy of his past, especially anything that would likely have on it his birthplace and/or claimed citizenship.

    At BEST, Obama had dual citizenship.
    At worst, he may have never been a U.S. citizen at all.

    During one call to my Senator’s office the office assistant stated Obama was “vetted”.
    What exactly does the mean? I would like to know who did the vetting, what questions were asked and what information was viewed to determine his eligibility.

    I explain what that means in this post. Senators and Representatives “outsourced” the verification of Obama’s birth certificate, by accepting as truth the lies that were told by Annenberg Political Fact Check and the Associated Press.

    I include in my post the actual text of a letter I received from one of my Senators.

    There is no excuse for the fact that not a single member of Congress asked to see an officially certified birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, released by and delivered directly from the State of Hawaii.

    They examined official certificates from the Secretary of State from each of the 50 states… certificates of the electoral college vote. But not a single member of Congress asked to see Obama’s original birth certificate. Not a single one. Even though thousands of us called their offices asking them to do so.

    When Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, a copy of Barry’s original birth certificate was likely sealed in Hawaii, and a new birth certificate, with the last name Soetoro, issued.

    The only document that claims Obama was born in Honolulu is the COLB that was produced at the Obama campaign headquarters, a hard copy of a clearly fraudulent photoshopped COLB (no more legitimate than “Haye I.B. Ahphorgerie” [Hey! I be a forgery!]). That document has never been validated by the state of Hawaii, and it is ludicrous to accept it as valid.

    There has not been any official statement or document issued by the state of Hawaii claiming that Barry was born in Honolulu.

    The magnitude of the fraud surrounding the COLB is absolutely astounding.

    Here’s a possible scenario IMO. There is no eligibility requirement to run for president, only to actually hold the office of president. The vetting, whatever it was, did not take place until it was obvious that Obama was going to be the Democrat nominee, and likely the next president. At that point in time the fear of the consequences of uncovering his ineligibility overrode any meaningful look into his eligibility.

    Now there seems to be a fear of looking into the issue, it’s as if we must now accept an illegal president and just keep quiet about it.

    Bingo! None of them wanted to be called “Raaaacist!” for questioning “The ONE”.

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