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1. #1
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:06 am, tiredofit08 said:

   well duh….this man continues to scare the heck out of me…

2. #2
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:14 am, Ragspierre said:

   In both the “None Dare Say…” and the “Ummm…has anybody noticed…” categories…

   doesn’t THE ONE’s cabinet appear NOT like America…

   Rather over-represented, in terms collectivist understand…

   Jes’ sayin’….

3. #3
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:14 am, graysonret said:

   It doesn’t surprise me that Obama would pick an Obamacare advocate. Obviously, he wants someone who supports him. It’s the price we pay for having him as president. At the rate he is going, there won’t be much of a Constitutional government anyway, in 2011, with the support of rinos and the democrats. I’m waiting for the day when he declares himself “president for life” like the other power-hungry people over history.

4. #4
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:15 am, spaceycakes said:

   Hurry up and get those aborted fetuses stat! We need some more stem cells for Christopher Reeves!!!

5. #5
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:17 am, txvet2 said:

   No surprise. The question is, since she believes

   Through her personal practice and advocacy work, Benjamin sees no easy solution to the problem, but hopes for a nationwide movement to provide universal health access for everyone in the country.

   how many indigent patients was she treating, and was she charging? Walk the talk, as they say.

6. #6
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:19 am, beachmom said:

   Well that’s no surprise.

   And Ragspierre, I thought the same thing.

7. #7
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:21 am, sonofdy said:

   No??? REALLYYY???

8. #8
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:22 am, spaceycakes said:

   hahaha, Ragspierre.

   If there’s anything that needs sayin’, I’m not afraid to do it.

   As you say–’over-reach’ much?

9. #9
   On July 13th, 2009 at 11:24 am, spaceycakes said:

   “I think there certainly can be a minimum benefit that everyone could have and then you could buy more on top of that if you wanted it,” she says.

   Hey! Guess what? I already have that you sad twat.

10. #10
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:24 am, ajmontana said:

    Pretty soon D.C. will be run like Los Angeles. you can take it from there.

11. #11
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:26 am, chapoutier said:

    In both the “None Dare Say…” and the “Ummm…has anybody noticed…” categories…

    doesn’t THE ONE’s cabinet appear NOT like America…

    Rather over-represented, in terms collectivist understand…

    I am sorry, but wasn’t it you who said this:

    Typical liberal, can only think in terms of racial groups.

    on the Sotomayor thread? Or are you claiming that people from Alabama are overrepresented in Obama’s cabinet?

12. #12
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:26 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    At the moment I have the pneumonia. As my doctor does NOT accept Medicare or insurance I was able to get in and see the Physicians Assistant Saturday. Instead of paying a ten dollar deductible for Amoxicillian I paid twelve dollars and then paid for the X-ray.

    It is called having insurance for catastrophic illness and paying for the routine yourself. Third Party payer paying from dollar one or a low deductible does not make us healthier. That was the mantra for a generation and has been proved to be not true. But it does drive up cost and lowers quality offset by longer wait times-if you like longer wait times.

    Dr. Regina Benjami should have stayed in Naleans-she and Nagin deserve each other. I do not know which hurts worse-Obama or the pneumonia-hopefully Amoxicillian will make the pneumonia go away–too bad we have no meds to make Obama go away

13. #13
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    Wait wait wait wait. Is Michelle Malkin seriously playing hush hush on the new Young Republicans chairman?

    SERIOUSLY???????

14. #14
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:31 am, sonofdy said:

    Red State Skeptic said: Something off topic.

15. #15
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:33 am, DBNinKY said:

    “Now, we need to cover the parents of those children,” she says. “If we do that, we’ve come a long way toward providing universal coverage.”

    Yay…another back-door approacher to nationalized health care…whoopee….

16. #16
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:36 am, tre said:

    So, Duh Ones SG supports Rationed Health Care. Strike One.
    What’s her stand on abortion?

17. #17
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:37 am, happyscrapper said:

    doesn’t THE ONE’s cabinet appear NOT like America…

    Rags, I agree, he is appointing a lot of minorities, making caucasions the real minorities. Will we now qualify for affirmative action status? He is going overboard, big time.

    Speaking of health care reform, I think I am going to be sick any minute now.

    And Arizona…GET WELL SOON!!!

18. #18
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:40 am, Misscheryl said:

    11:36 am, tre said:
    So, Duh Ones SG supports Rationed Health Care. Strike One.
    What’s her stand on abortion?

    aaaah lemme guess – she’s for it, except when she’s trying to help Obama keep his promise to the pope and reduce the number of abortions.

    How does one “limit” abortions – you are either for the killing children or you are opposed to the killing of children. Oh wait, unless you are a liberal in which case you get to determine who’s worth being born and who isn’t – silly me!

19. #19
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:42 am, happyscrapper said:

    Will the Congress be on the same health plan as the rest of the country? Yeah, right. They don’t care what we have to deal with as long as they continue their elitist lifestyle. Disgusting bunch of hypocrites, every one of them. Just like Obama and school vouchers. As long as HIS kids have a good school, the hell with the rest. He pretends to care, but I look behind those eyes and see…nothing.

20. #20
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:44 am, right_on said:

    “I think there certainly can be a minimum benefit that everyone could have and then you could buy more on top of that if you wanted it,” she says.

    Isn’t that the system that’s currently in place? No one can be turned down for care, regardless of citizenship. If “you want more,” you buy what is known as “health insurance.” And this woman received a “Genius” award???

    Can you say, Joycelyn Elders? Another “brilliant” rural doctor…yeah, I’m buying it….

21. #21
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:44 am, forest said:

    Here’s an interesting fact about her:

    “…Once classified as a rural health clinic, Benjamin’s practice would receive a lump sum for each Medicare or Medicaid patient she treated rather than having to bill separately for office visits, X-rays, and other services.”

    Apparently the paperwork and bureaucracy of Medicare and Medicaid were too much to handle on a patient by patient basis – whodathunkit?

    This “lump sum” exception for “rural health clinics” might invite corruption by simply inflating patient numbers – no individual billing needed. I’m not accusing her of anything except avoiding the onerous paperwork, but it still sounds like a sketchy provision in the law.

22. #22
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:36 am, tre said:

    So, Duh Ones SG supports Rationed Health Care. Strike One.
    What’s her stand on abortion?

    Careful tre -under NewSpeak it is NOT an abortion but a Choice. The Thought Police/New Black Panthers Party is watching.

    But yes-Strike two

    She is also on the list of abortion providers that is circulated by several different pro-life groups.

    I don’t know if she really IS an abortion provider, but I do know she is on the lists.

23. #23
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:48 am, right_on said:

    Oh wait, unless you are a liberal in which case you get to determine who’s worth being born and who isn’t – silly me!

    Or, better yet, who’s life is worth protecting;

    Hamad, the terrorist, or

    Zoe the zygote.

    Gosh, these life decisions can really be taxing on a person’s ability to put important things in perspective!

24. #24
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:52 am, bradley said:

    SCHIP is NOT “government sponsored”. I pay for it in higher cigarette prices.
    That was the FIRST tax Obama passed on people “making less than $250,000 a year”, a week after he got into office.

25. #25
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:55 am, spaceycakes said:

    LOL–’government sponsored’….

    52.9% of voters agree–Yes we can–be that stupid!

26. #26
    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:56 am, richardbo said:

    forest #21–The clinic wouldn’t have to falsify anything, just run as many through as possible. The accounting doesn’t take into consideration the amount of time given to each patient, only that they are seen. A real patient mill that can become a scam, but isn’t exactly illegal.

27. #27
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Off topic, but I have to tell you…an example of the elitists attitude. There was some “gala” event here in Minneapolis over the weekend. Tony Bennett and a bunch of other “celebrities” were in town. Our local newspeople were interviewing some old has-been who looked familiar, but I’m not sure who it was. Probably some hack character actor who hasn’t worked since 1970. Anyway, he was asked how he liked Minneapolis and he said, “It’s a convenient layover when travelling from LA to New York.” Jerk. I’m sure he thought that was perfectly O.K. to say to a Minneapolis resident. Remind me to stop supporting any of these creeps ever again by going to their stupid movies, etc. They think everyone in “flyover country” are hicks.

    I apologize for the rant…back to the topic!!

28. #28
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, tre said:

    But yes-Strike two

    Strike three, she’s a looney leftwing liberal.

    Yeeeeer OUT!

    Careful tre -under NewSpeak it is NOT an abortion but a Choice. The Thought Police/New Black Panthers Party is watching.

    I’m also a Christian, Conservative, NRA member. To them, I’m an extremist.
    Muslim terrorists get sent to Bermuda to soak up the sun and look at bikini-clad, buxom, blonde beauties.
    I’m guessing that Christian, Conservative Americans will be sent to a prison camp near Point Barrow, Alaska.

29. #29
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I’m guessing that Christian, Conservative Americans will be sent to a prison camp near Point Barrow, Alaska blindfolded,shot and buried in a mass grave somewhere in Alaska.

    FIFY

30. #30
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 13th, 2009 at 11:26 am, chapoutier said:

    Just because we don’t think in terms of race over qualifications and philosophy doesn’t mean that we can’t take note of the fact that the left begins with race and considers any other factors last (if at all). There is literally no doubt at all that Sotomayor’s primary qualification is that she’s Hispanic. They’ve been beating on that drum since before she was nominated.

31. #31
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Strike three, she’s a looney leftwing liberal.

    That’s a given. Obama doesn’t choose any other kind.

32. #32
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Forty-nine percent (49%) of U.S. voters now at least somewhat oppose the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats, while 46% at least somewhat favor it, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

    This marks the first time that more voters lean against the plan than support it. Just two weeks ago, 50% were for the reform plan, and 45% were opposed.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/healthcare/july_2009/49_oppose_health_care_reform_plan_46_favor_it

    The opposition is also more passionate on the issue, according to this poll.

    Put me at the top of that list…to go with my DHS placement…

    Chaps, just employing collectivist’s standards. Not pretty, huh…?

    Personally, I would not care one whit if THE ONE’s cabinet was composed of all minorities…IF they were not ALMOST completely collectivist ideologues. Diversity? Not from THE ONE, or your buddies on the Statist end of the scale.

    They can talk…but NEVER walk.

33. #33
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, chapoutier said:

    Just because we don’t think in terms of race over qualifications and philosophy doesn’t mean that we can’t take note of the fact that the left begins with race and considers any other factors last (if at all).

    Yeah. Rags spent a ton of time debating her actual qualifications, or lack thereof.

34. #34
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, sonofdy said:

    chap: Her major qualification seems to be that she is ultra-liberal, hispanic, wise, and female.

35. #35
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Rags spent a ton of time debating her actual qualifications, or lack thereof.

    And apparently neither did THE ONE.

    Her prime qualification appears to be her ideology.

    Tell me that isn’t the case.

36. #36
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    “Now, we need to cover require the parents of those children that can afford the coverage to pay for the coverage,” she says. “If we do that, we’ve come a long way toward providing universal coveragepersonal responsibility.”

    The way it should read in the U.S.A.

37. #37
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, chapoutier said:

    Personally, I would not care one whit if THE ONE’s cabinet was composed of all minorities…

    That’s why her race was the first thing you took note of? Curious.

    IF they were not ALMOST completely collectivist ideologues.

    That is silly. Setting aside the debate on your choice of adjectives, if you believe Obama to be a collectivist, why shouldn’t his cabinet reflect that? If Tancredo got elected president in 2012, would you complain if he didn’t have enough collectivists to diversify his cabinet?

38. #38
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    I so so miss Jocelyn Elders – she was good for a laugh! Talk about a physician I would never want to treat me!! Anybody know what happened to her drug-addicted son? Did she ever write that book about how masturbation should be taught in the public schools-just askin’.

39. #39
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, Ragspierre said:

    If Tancredo got elected president in 2012, would you complain if he didn’t have enough collectivists to diversify his cabinet?

    NO. But pointing out the hypocrisy of the collective is my point. Your side would CERTAINLY castigate a Tancredo administration that was reflective of his end of the ideological spectrum.

    Whatdathink, Chaps… Will we see any Mamy cartoons from the MSM, as we did with Dr. Rice? You remember her…the lady with massive qualifications for her office?

    “She has established a family practice that allows her to treat all incoming patients, many of whom are uninsured, and frequently travels by pickup truck to care for the most isolated and immobile in her region.”

    Wonderful work, and she should have the opportunity…and her patients should have the benefit…of continuing her practice.

    I fail to see how any of that qualifies her to administer the nation’s Federal health bureaucracy. You?

40. #40
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pm, Ragspierre said:

    That’s why her race was the first thing you took note of? Curious.

    That is just a lie. I read her blurb before the picture on this site was posted.

    Ideology was the first thing I noticed. You?

41. #41
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Did she ever write that book about how masturbation should be taught

    She never got around to it–I think she was too ‘busy’…

42. #42
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, chapoutier said:

    That is just a lie. I read her blurb before the picture on this site was posted.

    I didn’t say “noticed.” I said her race was the first thing you “took note of.” As in commented on. Which it was. I would never claim to pretend to know what you thought of first, I can only comment on what you chose to share with us first, which is telling enough.

43. #43
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Red State Skeptic said: Something off topic.

    That’s the thing about conservatives. The topic is only something you want to talk about.

    A confirmed racist elected to lead the “Young” Republicans, and endorsed by Bobby Jindal. Hey, nothing to see here. Move along folks.

    I was really disgusted when Jeneane Garafolo made that ad hominem smear of the allegedly racist tea partiers. But the more this stuff comes out of the right, practically on a weekly basis now, the more apparent it is that racism is becoming a MAJOR ugly spot on the right.

    But maybe I was naive to begin with, given the overwhelming evidence of enduring racism in the red south.

44. #44
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:38 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “Brighto! Brighto! It makes old bodies new! We’ll sell a million bottles, Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo!”
    - Curly (DIZZY DOCTORS, 1937)

45. #45
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:38 pm, forest said:

    She got a $500,000 grant with almost no strings attached and her “rural health clinic” can bill Medicaid lump sum by patient numbers instead of doing individual billing.

    I sure hope they have excellent bookkeeping at that clinic.

46. #46
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    I fail to see how any of that qualifies her to administer the nation’s Federal health bureaucracy. You?

    I fail to see why you would ignore the fact that she also was president of the Alabama Medical Association, served on the Board of Trustees for the AMA, was named one of the best leaders in America by US News and World Report…

47. #47
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Looks to me like she might be planning to show America how to do obesity right. Don’t studies consistently show that our health care costs would plummet if people like her lost the tubbage?

48. #48
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, chapoutier said:

    served on the Board of Trustees for the AMA

    AMA as in American Medical Association, for clarification.

49. #49
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, Ragspierre said:

    No, no, no, Chaps, baby.

    “Noticed” or “took note of”…

    please.

    But, am I surprised at your response? Hell no! I predicted it in my first post, did I not?

    Please, take a moment and make the case that THE ONE’s cabinet is composed on merit; that he has selected people who would best serve the nation in their respective posts.

    Take a moment and tell us that Sotomayer is the leading jurist of our time.

    Please.

    Give us the case that Dr. Benjamin is the most qualified person in America to be the Surgeon General.

50. #50
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pm, Flyoverman said:

    But maybe I was naive to begin with, given the overwhelming evidence of enduring racism in the red south.

    If you want to see totally entrenched bigotry, try The Hamptons, Georgetown, or Marin County.

51. #51
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    That’s the thing about conservatives liberals. The topic is only never something you want to talk about.

    There, fixed it for you.

52. #52
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, Ragspierre said:

    If you want to see totally entrenched bigotry, try The Hamptons, Georgetown, or Marin County.

    Or the chambers of Judge Sotomayor or Justice Ginsberg.

    Or the White House.

53. #53
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:46 pm, dll said:

    Does she owe any back taxes?

54. #54
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:47 pm, sonofdy said:

    That’s the thing about conservatives. The topic is only something you want to talk about.

    Okay red state bigot, I will help you out, see the article on the top of the page? Thats the topic. Michelle also didn’t mention the genocide in the sudan, but that doesn’t mean that she is ignoring the topic.

    Does that help you?

55. #55
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, chapoutier said:

    “Noticed” or “took note of”…

    Whatever you say. But please try to deny the fact that it was the first thing you commented on, before even attacking her for being some fanatical lib that wants to ban your cheezy puffs and mandate Plan B be given to 12 year old girls in homeroom.

    Take a moment and tell us that Sotomayer is the leading jurist of our time.

    Was Alito? Was Roberts? For pete’s sake, please don’t try to tell me Thomas is. There is not some “best qualified person for the job.” That is a silly concept.

    Give us the case that Dr. Benjamin is the most qualified person in America to be the Surgeon General.

    Again, I think “most” qualified is a stupid concept. She certainly seems pretty qualified according to all the information I found that you apparently ignored because you were too fixated on her race.

56. #56
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, cheapseat said:

    chap; i GUARANTEE that if a white republican president so overrepresented white males in his administration as this black president is overrepresenting black americans in his administration, he would be villified on a daily basis as a racist, sexist and all around blaggart. i don’t care that he is doing it, it is his right, i object to the msm categorizing white republicans as racist if they wish to surround themselves with people of similar experience.

57. #57
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, Ragspierre said:

    But please try to deny the fact that it was the first thing you commented on, before even attacking her for being some fanatical lib

    Sorry.

    I guess I should have repeated everything that Michelle had already said.

    Then, you would not have had anything to say, right? I mean, I could have made the novel statement I did, and I would have been covered. Right?

    The rest of your post is the predicable (shazaam!) “Well, but you guys…” BS.

    I’ll stack Thomas up against Ginsberg as a legal thinker any day. Ditto Alito, Roberts, and Scalia.

58. #58
    On July 13th, 2009 at 12:57 pm, sonofdy said:

    Chap: these days, opposing ANY obama pick is considered racism, so pardon me if I simply ignore the charge. A great example is red state bigot, he does nothing but charge the GOP with racism while excusing REAL racism on his lord and masters picks part.

59. #59
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm, Ragspierre said:

    She certainly seems pretty qualified according to all the information I found that you apparently ignored because you were too fixated on her race.

    Like?

    And I repudiate your “fixated on race” BS.

    Again.

    I noted a trend in THE ONE’s appointments. You know…like Ginsberg’s “disparate” outcome fetish.

    But you haven’t answered one of my challenges, except with “silly”, “stupid”, etc.

    C’mon, Chaps. Put it up, or shut up.

60. #60
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, chapoutier said:

    I guess I should have repeated everything that Michelle had already said.

    No. You chose to go the racist route. Normally, I wouldn’t say a word, but not a minute prior, I saw your incredibly hypocritical post, chastising edelweiss for fixating on race.

61. #61
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:09 pm, chapoutier said:

    Like?

    Like I said in Post #46, president of the Alabama Medical Association, a Trustee of the American Medical Association, former associate dean of a medical school…I’ll let wiki do the rest:

    Dr. Benjamin is a diplomate of the American Board of Family Practice and a Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians. She was a Kellogg National Fellow and a Rockefeller Next Generation Leader. She serves on numerous boards and committees, including the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured, Catholic Health East, Medical Association of the State of Alabama, Alabama Board of Medical Examiners, Alabama State Committee of Public Health, Mobile County Medical Society, Alabama Rural Health Association, Leadership Alabama, Mobile Area Red Cross, Mercy Medical, Mobile Chamber of Commerce, United Way of Mobile, and Deep South Girl Scout Council.

    She was appointed by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala to the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Act Committee and to the Council of Graduate Medical Education, and is a member of the Step 3 Committee. In Alabama she has served as vice president of the Governor’s Commission on Aging and as a member of the Governor’s Health Care Reform Task Force and the Governor’s Task Force on Children’s Health.

    All things you chose to ignore to comment on her race.

62. #62
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Normally, I wouldn’t say a word, but not a minute prior, I saw your incredibly hypocritical post, chastising edelweiss for fixating on race.

    No, Chaps. My post was ABOUT the hypocrisy of the collective.

    I was putting it back in your face (not you, personally).

    Please, Chaps. Answer the challenges.

    Oh, and tell me that minorities are NOT over-represented (a collectivist term and concept) in THE ONE’s administration. Since you have already tacitly admitted that is not on merit, to what do YOU attribute it?

    Hmmmm…..???

    Could it be that you approve of THE ONE’s racism?

    Could it be that you regard it as “turn-abouts-fair-play”?

    Hmmmm…..????

63. #63
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, Ragspierre said:

    All things you chose to ignore to comment on her race.

    Another flat-footed lie.

    I didn’t CHOOSE to ignore anything.

    Let me ask again. Is this nice doctor…a thoroughly doctrinaire collectivist…the most qualified physician in the US to serve as our Surgeon General? Do you see race in there anywhere?

    Do you doubt that race was a factor in her selection by THE ONE? If so, please state your reasons.

64. #64
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, chapoutier said:

    No, Chaps. My post was ABOUT the hypocrisy of the collective.

    So you’re ok with your racist comment because at least you are not being hypocritical about it?

    Please, Chaps. Answer the challenges.

    What challenges? You asked me if she was qualified. I answered with detail.

    Oh, and tell me that minorities are NOT over-represented (a collectivist term and concept) in THE ONE’s administration.

    If its a collectivist term and concept, why are you so concerned about it? And I have no clue as to the racial, ethnic, religious, etc… makeup of Obama’s administration. Since the over representation is your claim, perhaps you could provide the data.

    Since you have already tacitly admitted that is not on merit, to what do YOU attribute it?

    I have admitted nothing close to that, tacitly or otherwise.

65. #65
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Again, I think “most” qualified is a stupid concept.

    and

    Since you have already tacitly admitted that is not on merit, to what do YOU attribute it?

    I have admitted nothing close to that, tacitly or otherwise.

    To which I again note your dishonesty.

66. #66
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, chapoutier said:

    I didn’t CHOOSE to ignore anything.

    Yes, you did. You portrayed her as a simply a family practitioner, absolutely ignoring all of the administrative and policy work and positions she has held.

    Let me ask again. Is this nice doctor…a thoroughly doctrinaire collectivist…the most qualified physician in the US to serve as our Surgeon General? Do you see race in there anywhere?

    Again, I believe the concept of “most qualified” is a stupid concept on its face. I believe, from what I have read, that she is very accomplished and very qualified.

    Do you doubt that race was a factor in her selection by THE ONE?

    I have no idea. But since I believe she is obviously qualified for the position, I find it a moot point.

67. #67
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm, vinny said:

    Looking at her profile on wiki, it sounds someone with a like a great deal of political activity at a young age. Most doctors are busy caring for patients during this period. I wonder what her motivation was for joining all these medical boards? What is her agenda? When does she have time to care for patients, and if she was busy working at local ER’s while operating the rural health clinic, who saw the patients in that clinic? This woman has one political office or another in her blood, and I wonder if she cares more about this office than about the people it is meant to represent? About being on some board of the AMA, over 90% of the doctors say that AMA no longer represents their views. Her desire for nationalized health care places her into a low percent minority among American doctors, and it wouldn’t be surprising if her other views on health and treatment are not shared by the majority of her colleagues. As far as the “genius award”…Arafat was awarded the nobel peace prize while sodomizing little Arab boys and building bombs to kill children.

68. #68
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm, Ragspierre said:

    You asked me if she was qualified.

    Again, that is a lie.

    I do not ask you if she is qualified. I know of no explicit qualification for the Surgeon General. I am not even certain they have to be a licensed physician.

    I asked if you could make the case that Dr. Benjamin was the most qualified for the post.

    You reeled off her CV. You did not answer the question.

69. #69
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, chapoutier said:

    To which I again note your dishonesty.

    To which I have to note that you are totally misrepresenting what I said.

    Tell me, in specific detail, your definition of “most qualified” Surgeon General. I need you to list every qualification, personal and professional, and also assign a specific weight to each of them, perhaps by a points system or maybe as a percentage. However, you will also have to give me a reasoned, irrefutable explanation as to why the qualifications and weights you listed are the only reasonable ones. I mean, someone that weighs “years of experience” as 12% instead of 14% is obviously daft, right?

    If you truly think there is some mythical “most qualified” person out there for any position more complicated then working the fryolator at McDonalds, then I hope I am not bursting your bubble in telling you that the tooth fairy and easter bunny are fictional as well.

70. #70
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:29 pm, vinny said:

    On the bright note, it would be really funny to have her anounce the need to fight obesity. Obama can make anti smoking anouncements.

71. #71
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:30 pm, right_on said:

    Give us the case that Dr. Benjamin is the most qualified person in America to be the Surgeon General.

    Rags, you have to understand how these people get on the list…visualize this;

    People qualified for any given position in this administration are assembled (with promises of a free lunch, no doubt) together. A spokesperson for Obama makes the statement: “Anyone here who is interested in serving as _______, take one step forward.”

    In an almost choreographed movement, 9/10ths of the crowd turn pale at the mere suggestion, and take one giant step backwards, while gesturing with their crossed index fingers.

    The 3 or 4 grinning idiots left standing in front of the others, are too ignorant to figure out that they’re putting themselves out as ideological scapegoats…or too liberal to care!

    …And that’s how “public servants” are chosen.

72. #72
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, Ragspierre said:

    You portrayed her as a simply a family practitioner, absolutely ignoring all of the administrative and policy work and positions she has held.

    I quoted from the Reuters piece on her.

    I did not drill down into the Wiki-world for her CV. I did not have your motivation of attacking me.

    Is it your assertion that her positions on the United Way, a few Alabama Governor’s commissions on this or that make her the nation’s premier expert on communicable disease, national emergency response, or on administering an immense health bureaucracy?

    Speak to those issues, please.

73. #73
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, chapoutier said:

    I asked if you could make the case that Dr. Benjamin was the most qualified for the post.

    I have only told you 9 times it is a dumb question, not only because it is asking for a standard which does not exist even in theory, let alone real life, but also because not me, you, Obama, or anyone else has, or could possibly have that kind of knowledge. How many doctors are there in the US? Do we have to collect and weed through every CV out there before your silly standard would be satisfied?

    So I answered it the only way an intelligent person could, which is to say that she appears very qualified.

74. #74
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, Ragspierre said:

    And, with that answer in #72, I rest my case.

    Remember, Ladies and Gentleman, when asked to “make the case that Dr. Benjamin was the most qualified for the post“, the witness could only call that “a dumb question”, and tell us that that answer was “the only way an intelligent person” could respond.

    Thank you.

75. #75
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, chapoutier said:

    I did not drill down into the Wiki-world for her CV. I did not have your motivation of attacking me.

    Crazy me, I guess I would have assumed that someone accusing Obama of appointing her because she’s black would want to rule out any other reasons, like…oh..I don’t know…her qualifications, maybe.

    Is it your assertion that her positions on the United Way, a few Alabama Governor’s commissions on this or that make her the nation’s premier expert on communicable disease, national emergency response, or on administering an immense health bureaucracy?

    Since when is the Surgeon General required to be the premier expert in communicable diseases? And what exactly do you think her duties would be with respect to “administering an immense health bureaucracy?” Do you even know what the Surgeon General does? So far as I can tell, they advise the president on health issues, act as a spokesperson for the prez on health issues, and operates the PHSCC, which seems pretty limited in its scope. You make it sound like she is running Medicaid, Medicare, the NIH, the CDC, etc…

76. #76
    On July 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, chapoutier said:

    Remember, Ladies and Gentleman, when asked to “make the case that Dr. Benjamin was the most qualified for the post“, the witness could only call that “a dumb question”, and tell us that that answer was “the only way an intelligent person” could respond.

    No. I gave you two very specific reasons it was a dumb question. It’s like posing the question “What can jump higher? A kangaroo or purple?” and then claiming victory when the opponent refuses to engage the question.

77. #77
    On July 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, beachmom said:

    MissCheryl said:
    

    How does one “limit” abortions

    Have you read about Obama’s new science czar? He believes in involuntary sterilization. That’s how you limit abortions. That or hand out birth control to everyone from 11yrs old and up like they tried to do here in Portland, ME.

78. #78
    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:24 pm, Ragspierre said:

    For all posters to this thread (besides Chaps, who has already established his record)…

    Please, give us your opinion as to the following:

    1. Dr. Benjamin’s selection by BIG BRO was more influenced by–

    a. her ideology as an advocate for universal health-care

    or

    b. her qualifications to lead the health infrastructure of the U.S. government

    2. Dr. Benjamin’s selection by BIG BRO was more influenced by–

    a. her status as a minority and woman

    or

    b. her qualifications to lead the health infrastructure of the U.S. government

79. #79
    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:30 pm, spaceycakes said:

    1=a
    2=a

    extra credit: She is also a zombie.

80. #80
    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, PatriotRider said:

    C’mon people, give Chappy a break. He’s just butt-hurt Big O didn’t choose him for SCOTUS. Don’t tell him but I think he doesn’t do anything for the quota.

81. #81
    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    b. her qualifications to lead the health infrastructure of the U.S. government

    She is not leading the US’s health infrastructure. The Surgeon General is a lot more impotent than you are claiming.

82. #82
    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:43 pm, spaceycakes said:

    lot more impotent

    ‘why are you dressed up like that?’

    ‘the doctor says I’s impotent, so I’s gonna dress like I’s impotent!’

83. #83
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:43 pm, spaceycakes said:
    lot more impotent
    ‘why are you dressed up like that?’

    ‘the doctor says I’s impotent, so I’s gonna dress like I’s impotent!’

    Racist stereotype pronunciation alert!
    Racist stereotype pronunciation alert!

84. #84
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, Ragspierre said:

    The Surgeon General is a lot more impotent than you are claiming.

    Perhaps you mean “historically”, or “under law”.

    But we are dealing with a out-law administration that recognizes no historical restraints on power.

    Or do you wish to pretend otherwise…???

85. #85
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 13th, 2009 at 3:40 The Surgeon General is a lot more impotent than you are claiming.

    Alright Chap, I’ve looked everywhere, but I’ll be dipped in gook if I can find anything that speaks to Dr. Benjamin’s fertility! Where do you find all these fun facts?

86. #86
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Ah, Rogue…

    ROFLMFAO…!!!

87. #87
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I’ll have you know, Rogue, that’s how folks talk where I growed up.

88. #88
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, spaceycakes said:

    The Surgeon General is a lot more impotent than you are claiming.

    I’m still trying to figure out why it is put that way to start with…why wasn’t it written thusly:

    ‘The Surgeon General is less potent’
    ?

89. #89
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    To be truly colorblind, race should never even come up. This is of course why so many conservatives oppose Sotomayer.

90. #90
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, DMaguire27 said:

    Well, at least she’s not here in Alabama any more…

91. #91
    On July 13th, 2009 at 4:47 pm, jbh45 said:

    Oh goodie another cabinet member. It looks like the IRS will get some more of their missing tax revenue….

92. #92
    On July 13th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, ScottyDog said:

    When did the Congress amend the Constitution to allow the appointment of a Surgeon General and exactly what powers does the Surgeon General wield.

    In my copy, I do not see the position of Surgeon General outline and what powers that office holds.

93. #93
    On July 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, wayiwalk said:

    Anyone notice the photo of hillary clinton on Drudge today?

    The arm sling has a US – logo on it, kind of like a presidential seal.

    I can’t help but to think when I see that photo….” special coverage for us, crummy universal health care for the rest of you”

    Check it out!

94. #94
    On July 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, Ragspierre said:

    wayiwalk said:

    Whoah… Dude….

    GOOD drugs…

95. #95
    On July 13th, 2009 at 6:31 pm, Ragspierre said:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090710/capt.9608f240ca854dbb9f161e2916926044.state_clinton_dcpm102.jpg?x=313&y=345&q=85&sig=x33N9tBR5ZM7VNBFxiGTOg–

    “This is your Sec. Of State on drugs….”

96. #96
    On July 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pm, Jeff said:

    According to the website, she is unqualified for the post as Surgeon General.

    About the Office of the Surgeon General
    The Office of the Surgeon General, under the direction of the Surgeon General, oversees the operations of the 6,000-member Commissioned Corps of the U.S. Public Health Service and provides support for the Surgeon General in the accomplishment of his other duties. The Office is part of the Office of Public Health and Science in the Office of the Secretary, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

    The Surgeon General serves as America’s chief health educator by providing Americans the best scientific information available on how to improve their health and reduce the risk of illness and injury. The Surgeon General is appointed by the President of the United States with the advice and consent of the United States Senate for a 4-year term of office. In carrying out all responsibilities, the Surgeon General reports to the Assistant Secretary for Health, who is the principal advisor to the Secretary on public health and scientific issues.

    Notice the word ” his ”
    Sexists…

97. #97
    On July 13th, 2009 at 9:46 pm, jangar said:

    “We are going to get this done…

    …over the Nation’s dead body”.

98. #98
    On July 13th, 2009 at 10:08 pm, rightisright said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal, best of luck with curing your pneumonia.

99. #99
    On July 13th, 2009 at 10:52 pm, Ragspierre said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal, best of luck with curing your pneumonia.

    Dittos, AZ. The P is nothing to mess with. Get good meds, and take it easy til you’re all better.

100. #100
     On July 13th, 2009 at 11:30 pm, SpeakEasy said:

     On July 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, wayiwalk said:Anyone notice the photo of hillary clinton on Drudge today?

     That’s what happens sometimes with arm-twisting. Did she meet recently with Michelle Obama- she of the magnificently sculpted arms?