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1. #1
   On July 15th, 2009 at 6:44 am, zorro said:

   Sickening.

2. #2
   On July 15th, 2009 at 6:58 am, dtestard said:

   “Nothing is certain but death and taxes.”

3. #3
   On July 15th, 2009 at 7:03 am, gfchicago said:

   Gag me with a spoon. Her life story is not any more compelling than any other Americans.

   She is nothing but a racist.

4. #4
   On July 15th, 2009 at 7:11 am, MrOlympia said:

   Hussein is succeeding in his agenda to destroy our country. Sotomagoo is just one small part.

   Can you imagine how Scalia, Alito, Roberts, and Thomas feel knowing they are going to have this bigoted dufus to put up with?

   EVERY Republican should vote NO and remind the President of his vote as a Senator for Supreme Court nominees. It surely didn’t hurt him in any way!

   A very high percentage of Republicans in the Congress and Senate are WIMPS!!!

5. #5
   On July 15th, 2009 at 7:55 am, jsr said:

   Next time I am job hunting, if there are jobs in the future, I am going to include a section on my resume for Compelling Life Story, which is an excellent way to measure a persons competence. I may even leave out Skills or Work History to make room for it. That should land me a good job pretty quick.

6. #7
   On July 15th, 2009 at 8:19 am, iamsaved said:

   I suppose there is a reason that Barack Obama never accomplished anything of merit like running a business or being elected as an executive to either a city, county or state office.

   In reviewing his selection of appointees, czars, cabinet nominees, and supreme court nominee, any executive position he would have been in would have failed because he always chooses unqualified people to act as his lieutenants. Each person is either tainted ethically, morally, or legally. Or are just plain incompetent.

   That being said, I’m sure he would have made a great Mafia Don though because he sure can select good hatchet men to surround himself with.

7. #8
   On July 15th, 2009 at 8:20 am, zyzzyg said:

   ” . . . here are your tax dollars at work . . . “

   The money used to produce that E-Mail should have been saved and spent on the F-22.

8. #9
   On July 15th, 2009 at 8:27 am, tre said:

   Judge Sotomayor’s brilliant legal mind is complemented by the practical lessons that can only be learned by applying the law to real world situations.

   If she’s so all-fired smart, then why are more than half of her decisions reversed on appeal? That’s enough to show she either doesn’t know law, or doesn’t care about it.

   from a judge who has more experience on the federal bench than any incoming Supreme Court Justice in the last 100 years

   Show me some proof.

   And then there is Judge Sotomayor’s incredible personal story.

   Which made her the “Wise Latina” she is today, I suppose.

   In Judge Sotomayor, our nation will have a Justice

   I sure hope and pray not.

   will always apply the rule of law

   A 60% reversal rating shows she either ignores the law, or doesn’t know it.

   Judge Sotomayor’s decisions on the bench “have been made not to serve the interests of any one litigant, but always to serve the larger interest of impartial justice.”

   Unless one happens to be a firefighter in New Haven, CN.

9. #10
   On July 15th, 2009 at 8:34 am, Ron said:

   Oh, please. Gag me with a spoon shovel. I don’t know who first said it, but, yes, elections do have consequences, and the ones we got in 2008 are really some barn-burners.

10. #12
    On July 15th, 2009 at 8:39 am, Flyoverman said:

    Saturday I watched a young girl about 13 with an artificial leg run a 5K race and complete it ahead of about 1/3 of the other runners. That’s inspiring.

    Sotomayer having the opportunity to succeed should be what’s celebrated. Isn’t it interesting that the system that spawned her opportunity is villified by her own supporters.

    Opponents of Obamacare should demand equal time. Let the MSM expalin that away.

11. #13
    On July 15th, 2009 at 8:41 am, Flyoverman said:

    Did you see the article on Drudge about all of the British citizens flocking to Switzerland for assisted suicides?

    That certainly reflects on British healthcare. Maybe if Obamacare passes a hot stock to buy will be Swiss Air?

12. #14
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:02 am, Ragspierre said:

    Speaking only for myself (I guess that’s obvious), I was completely disgusted by Judge Sotomayor’s testimony today. If she was not perjuring herself, she is intellectually unqualified to be on the Supreme Court. If she was perjuring herself, she is morally unqualified. How could someone who has been on the bench for seventeen years possibly believe that judging in hard cases involves no more than applying the law to the facts? First year law students understand within a month that many areas of the law are open textured and indeterminate—that the legal material frequently (actually, I would say always) must be supplemented by contestable presuppositions, empirical assumptions, and moral judgments. To claim otherwise—to claim that fidelity to uncontested legal principles dictates results—is to claim that whenever Justices disagree among themselves, someone is either a fool or acting in bad faith. What does it say about our legal system that in order to get confirmed Judge Sotomayor must tell the lies that she told today? That judges and justices must live these lies throughout their professional carers?
    
    Perhaps Justice Sotomayor should be excused because our official ideology about judging is so degraded that she would sacrifice a position on the Supreme Court if she told the truth. Legal academics who defend what she did today have no such excuse. They should be ashamed of themselves.

    Liberal law professor (redundant) Louis Seidman http://www.fed-soc.org/debates/dbtid.30/default.asp

    Listening to Sotomayor, I also have to modify my opinion of her intelligence. She seems rather slow. I see no flashes of a particularly bright mind, which certainly one would have expected from her academic credentials. Maybe she has that in common with W.

13. #15
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:17 am, sonofdy said:

    “have been made not to serve the interests of any one litigant, but always to serve the larger interest of impartial justice.”

    Is obama telling us she made judgements based not on the law and the merits of the case but what she precieved as “the larger interest of impartial justice”??? That should be disqualifying right there.

14. #16
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:18 am, Flyoverman said:

    Every now and then the Republicans actually do something effective.

    This is the process chart they have created showing how the Obama Healthcare plan works.

    Simply fantastic.

    http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf

15. #17
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:18 am, prendad said:

    Ramming speed, ramming speed. It’s time to force another piece of ridiculous, “failed-on-arrival” legislation down the throats of American Citizens.
    Ramming speed, ramming speed.

16. #18
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:27 am, sonofdy said:

    Flyoverman:

    That chart made my head hurt.

17. #19
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am, stillontheroad said:

    Flyoverman:

    The chart does not show the trash can under the HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE labeled “Not Economically Viable”

18. #20
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:31 am, Paul Revere said:

    gfchicago said:

    Gag me with a spoon. Her life story is not any more compelling than any other Americans.

    She is nothing but a racist.

    Notwithstanding many of us made it without affirmative action.

19. #21
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:38 am, blizzard said:

    The chart also doesn’t show the inflow of illegals going into the system or is that just a given?

20. #22
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am, graysonret said:

    and will be a protector of the Constitution

    Which Constitution? We have 2 now; one that the FFs put together and one that the liberals call a “living, breathing document”. I think the latter is the one supported. Obama controls the executive branch, has a willing legislature branch, and hopes, that soon, he will control the judiciary branch. With a worshipping MSM, he’ll be another FDR, but in a worse way.

21. #23
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am, Savage24 said:

    The hole keeps getting deeper,and the BS gets stacked higher and higher. A little truth would be refreshing, but alas the same old lies. Do not worry the RINOs will prevail. She will be sitting on the Supreme Court spouting her racial and radical musings. Heaven help us and protect us from these fools.

22. #24
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:50 am, Ragspierre said:

    The chart also doesn’t show the inflow of illegals going into the system or is that just a given?

    This points up the false advertising aspect of the claim of “Umti-million Uninsured Americans”. The number includes millions of people who are not…under any definition…citizens of America. Why?

    Well, we are told we already are paying for them, which is a statement of the obvious. The question is WHY?

    That is not a question about helping people who are here in need. Humanity would dictate that we have to take care of people who present themselves in a dire circumstance. The question is WHY they are here, to be in a dire circumstance. They are in America in violation of our laws; WHY?

23. #25
    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:54 am, Flyoverman said:

    LOVED all the comments on the chart. Spot on!

24. #27
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:08 am, rainbow said:

    I thought she did more BS’g than answering questions directly. After yesterday I am against her appointment but who cares, right?

25. #28
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:12 am, DagneyT said:

    She is using the left’s usual ploy, i.e., sound like a conservative, then proceed to act like the lefty they really are!

26. #29
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:27 am, iamsaved said:

    The chart is a classic example of a Rube Goldberg contest entry isn’t it? Is anyone supposed to be able to follow all the rabbit trails?

27. #30
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:29 am, purplepeep said:

    “Republicans unveil chart depicting bureaucratic nightmare of Dem government-run health care…”

    Drudge has the link to a pdf file of it, but here’s the chart as just a jpg image file (I got it from the pdf):

    http://i26.tinypic.com/2ic738h.jpg

28. #32
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Obama (aka Rev. Jim Jones) “Hey everybody, the Koolaid tastes better when you drink from the Big Gulp container! Drink up!”

29. #33
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am, tiredofit08 said:

    On July 15th, 2009 at 8:34 am, Ron said:

    Oh, please. Gag me with a spoon shovel. I don’t know who first said it, but, yes, elections do have consequences, and the ones we got in 2008 are really some barn-burners.

    gag me with a spoon..moon unit zappa? valley girl talk…

    barn burners? nope country destroyers!!

30. #34
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:50 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Wonderful…the socialized medicine bill just passed committee by party line vote. We are SO SCREWED.

31. #35
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:50 am, NC BLUE said:

    6 months from now–newsflash from VP Biden—–we underestimated how bad the U.S. healthcare system really was. These leftist Dems are ruining this country with the help of the lamestream media. How’s that hope n change thingy going? BOHICA!!!!

32. #36
    On July 15th, 2009 at 10:56 am, sonofdy said:

    Wonderful…the socialized medicine bill just passed committee by party line vote.

    I am sure they read and understood every word right?

33. #37
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:02 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I am sure they read and understood every word right?

    Read? Are they required to do that?

34. #39
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:08 am, jsr said:

    More math. I’ll make it simple for the liberals:

    $1.5 trillion over ten years is $150 billion per year

    $150 billion dollars divided by 47 million is $31,914

    Summary: The cost to cover the 47 million people who supposedly have no health care is $31,914 per year per person.

    Note: that almost surely a low estimate.

35. #40
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:09 am, cheapseat said:

    this last weekend i got into the spirit of obamanomics, bubble up jobs, tax the rich to feed the lazy and stupid, we’re all gods people and to each according to his needs! i went to a nearby mobile home park, and knocked on 10 doors asking if anyone needed any home repairs they could hire me to do, or put up a security fence around their chateau, or maybe hire me as a security guard to patrol their property. i got no offers. i figured maybe i was starting too high up on the bubble so i went down to the ghetto and asked the same of the grate and cardboard box dwellers. these folks tried to spit on me and threatened me with violence when i asked them if they didn’t want to hire me to guard their stolen shopping cart full of cans and their box/home.
    any suggestions where a guy can find one of these bubble up jobs?

36. #41
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:13 am, spaceycakes said:

    Sotomayor’s brilliant legal mind

    and

    And then there is Judge Sotomayor’s incredible personal story

    as if any of us gives a tinkers’ cuss. I’m so tired of damned stories. Any of us here could make up a real tearjerker!

    Bollocks.

37. #42
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:15 am, stillontheroad said:

    cheapseat said:

    If you will forgive this question, are you a minority? Uneducated? Drug addicted? Have a record as long as your arm? If so, you should be a shoe in for all those new 85K a year Gobment jobs.

    If you are like me, made something out of myself, applied to the feds for multiple job listings that i was qualified for, not a peep or a responce.

38. #44
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:18 am, Ragspierre said:

    Ninety percent (90%) now say her confirmation is likely while only four percent (4%) say it is not.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 37% of voters now favor her confirmation while 43% are opposed. Importantly, those who are undecided have a positive view of President Obama and are probably willing to give him and his nominee the benefit of the doubt.

    Rasmussen poll

    I have seen no evidence of a “brilliant legal mind”. I have seen a consummate liar who REALLY wants to sit on the nation’s highest court, and will tell rather artless lies to make it happen.

    It looks like a lot of Americans agree.

39. #45
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:19 am, 24Klady said:

    You can visit a variety of websites, including some that ‘were’ formally liberal. People are waking up slowly, not in time to stop these monstrocities, but waking up nevertheless.

    I fully intend to glob onto every Republican that votes for any of these bills (especially the confirmation of Sotomayor), sending out copies of their yeas or nays to every single person I know.

40. #46
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:22 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Why is it that whenever I see the word Obamacare, I read it as Obamascare?

41. #47
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:28 am, stillontheroad said:

    All I know is, every single Libtard that is Rah Rahing this Obination of our healthcare will get what they want. Bottom line is, when one of their loved ones is laying in a bed with some ailment that will cost a lot of money to cure and they are told their loved ones ailment is too expensive to cure and it is cheaper to let them die, I want to see the looks on their faces then, and I donot want to hear one peep out of them about how inhumane the medical system is.

42. #48
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    What’s worse – socialized medicine or a Latina judge?

    Seems like you people hate everything except – tax cuts, war and bigots.

    Oh, and where did you get this guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2DJpcIu5cY&feature=player_embedded

43. #49
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:36 am, sonofdy said:

    Ilovemycuba said: I hate free enterprize and white people.

44. #50
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am, Salt said:

    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    What’s worse – socialized medicine or a Latina judge?

    Socialized medicine. Conservatives don’t care about Sotomayor’s ethnicity. It’s liberals that feel the need to repeat it over and again.

    However, given your haphazard posting style, I still suspect you’re just a griefer troll and not truly a liberal.

45. #51
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Mister P said:

    I don’t know about wise Latina, but she certainly is a homely one. If people can talk about Palin’s good looks, how about Sotomayer’s bad looks.

46. #52
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:48 am, DBNinKY said:

    I Love My [Rage]:

    If you put into volunteer work at a local hospice or animal rescue center, just one fraction of the time you spend in researching and delivering to this site rage-hate posts against whites and conservatives – on a nearly daily basis, now that the Sotomayor hearings are underway – the difference in your community would be remarkable.

47. #53
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:49 am, spaceycakes said:

    Ilovemycountry said:
    I hate myself, so why shouldn’t you too?!

    Done deal.

48. #54
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:52 am, lgm said:

    MM is hyperventilating today because Obama urged people to support his nominee? Must be a slow news day.

49. #55
    On July 15th, 2009 at 11:59 am, sonofdy said:

    MM is hyperventilating today because Obama urged people to support his nominee? Must be a slow news day.

    Do you hate michelle because she is female? or asian? or conservative? or all 3?

    LGM look up propogada in a dictionary. obama is spouting up propoganda and you are lapping it up like a dog laps up vomit.

50. #56
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, tonyr951 said:

    .
    ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada!

    Looks like Michael Moore has been leaving a bunch of stuff out of his propaganda.

    7:30 – 3 years go get a blood test, sign me up!

51. #57
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, spaceycakes said:

    lgm said:
    Must be a slow news day.

    For you? Sure. That’s why you post here.

52. #58
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, 24Klady said:

    I swear Ihatemycountry and LGM were cloned. I’ll leave it to others to discuss cloned from what? Poop&swoop gets old.

53. #60
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, stillontheroad said:

    “I swear Ihatemycountry and LGM were cloned. I’ll leave it to others to discuss cloned from what?”

    I would say a hairy wart on the nether regions of a Baboon.

54. #61
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Ilovemycuber: What’s worse – socialized medicine or a Latina judge?

    What was wrong with a Latino judge? The collectivists you have your lips attached to killed the chances of Miguel Estrada, a MUCH more qualified judge. I supported him entirely.

    What was wrong with the various minority lady judges that were killed by the Demoncrats? I mean, other than they were not collectivists…???

    So, in brief, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with a Latina judge who is not a racist and collectivist.

    There is EVERYTHING wrong with socialized ANYTHING—but especially socialized medicine.

55. #62
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, Ragspierre said:

    MM is hyperventilating today because Obama urged people to support his nominee?

    I saw no signs of hyperventilation. I DID feel the community urge to toss cookies over the BS THE ONE was throwing.

    BTW, why can’t a collectivist simply stand on conviction, instead of lying?

    Seems clear that the American people are unimpressed, too.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 37% of voters now favor her confirmation while 43% are opposed.

    Sotomayor is an un-artful liar. She is also a judicial dim bulb. Sorry, just a pair of facts.

56. #63
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Ragspierre said: BTW, why can’t a collectivist simply stand on conviction, instead of lying?

    ooooo a riddle! can I guess?

    Um…’cause they’re made of…wood?

57. #64
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:33 pm, lgm said:

    sonofdy said:

    MM is hyperventilating today because Obama urged people to support his nominee? Must be a slow news day.

    Do you hate michelle because she is female? or asian? or conservative? or all 3?

    Why bother with introspection. I should just ask you how I’m feeling. You always know.

    Note MM had no specific complaints about Obama’s email. She found no factual errors or distortions. She just was angry (yes angry, read her words) that Obama was supporting Sotomayor. Maybe it’s time for her to take a short break from permafuming and go hug a tree.

58. #65
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:37 pm, sonofdy said:

    So no answer from lgm.

    Whats the issue? no talking points to cover this question??

59. #66
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:49 pm, Ragspierre said:

    spaceycakes said:

    Ragspierre said: BTW, why can’t a collectivist simply stand on conviction, instead of lying?

    ooooo a riddle! can I guess?

    Um…’cause they’re made of…wood?

    No, seriously.

    THE ONE ran as a moderate…even a Reagan tax-cutter…

    All lies.

    Nobody in America fails to see that Sotomayor is lying her fat butt off…and inartfully at that.

    So, why can’t collectivists simply say who they are and what they believe?

    Why do they constantly lie?

60. #67
    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, Salt said:

    On July 15th, 2009 at 12:33 pm, lgm said:

    Note MM had no specific complaints about Obama’s email.

    You mean besides her specific reference to tax dollars being spent on this, right?

    She found no factual errors or distortions.

    No, she did not individually dissect the email for us, just presented it as is. That’s not the same thing as not finding errors in it. This is an assumption on your part.

    She just was angry (yes angry, read her words) that Obama was supporting Sotomayor.

    We did read her words. I personally didn’t read an angry word. Which one specifically made you believe this?

    And why must we trade only on emotions? If anything, I might suspect you were projecting your own anger towards Michelle.

    Maybe it’s time for her to take a short break from permafuming and go hug a tree.

    Weren’t you the one on here the other day talking about how you don’t insult someone who hasn’t attacked you first?

    Why bother with introspection. I should just ask you how I’m feeling. You always know.

    The same could be said for your comments as to how Michelle feels, could it not?

61. #68
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, Jeddite said:

    Why bother with introspection. I should just ask you how I’m feeling. You always know.

    Yet, here you are telling us (and Michelle) how she is feeling. You always know.

    The best psychologists are the freelance desktop psychologists who dispense their expertise in the field for free on the internet.

62. #69
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, Jeddite said:

    awwww… beaten to the punch by my nemesis, sodium chloride

    /shakesfist

63. #70
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, Salt said:

    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, Jeddite said:

    awwww… beaten to the punch by my nemesis, sodium chloride

    /shakesfist

    The irony was worth two posts. /shakeshand

64. #71
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pm, purplepeep said:

    Jeddite said:
    awwww… beaten to the punch by my nemesis, sodium chloride

    /shakesfist

    And she did a bang-up job of it, too! Methinks the commenter’s doctor will have to treat a high BP issue brought on by a healthy dose of NaCl!

65. #72
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Methinks the commenter’s doctor will have to treat a high BP issue brought on by a healthy dose of NaCl!

    I was put in mind of the compound’s effect on a slug.

    For obvious reasons…

66. #73
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    The lawyers at Volokh haven’t been rabidly either for or against Sotamayor. But at least one of them is growing concerned.

67. #74
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ragspierre said:

    “Methinks the commenter’s doctor will have to treat a high BP issue brought on by a healthy dose of NaCl!”

    I was put in mind of the compound’s effect on a slug.

    I always add a healthy dose of fresh ground pepper, too. Makes for some good eatin’!

68. #75
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, Salt said:

    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pm, purplepeep said:

    And she did a bang-up job of it, too!

    Just for the record…

69. #77
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Ilovemycountry said:

    What’s worse – socialized medicine or a Latina judge?

    Seems like you people hate everything except – tax cuts, war and bigots.

    Wow… that’s patently ignorant of you.

    Go away.

70. #78
    On July 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I always add a healthy dose of fresh ground pepper, too. Makes for some good eatin’!

    With a little drawn butter…

71. #79
    On July 15th, 2009 at 2:34 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I have a question…maybe someone can enlighten me. Why, in the name of all common sense, doesn’t the government just spend that trillion or so that they want to use to overhall the entire healthcare system…and just use it to cover the uninsured citizens??? Those who already have insurance, leave it alone. Take all the money they were going to use to destroy the insurance industry and use it for government funded insurance, like medicare, just for those who don’t have it. What am I missing??? I know that won’t help odumbo socialize our healthcare system, but it would SAVE it! Oh, never mind.

72. #80
    On July 15th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, Ragspierre said:

    What am I missing??? I know that won’t help odumbo socialize our healthcare system, but it would SAVE it! Oh, never mind.

    Scrappy, this is NOT about health care (as another poster reminded me yesterday).

    This is about collectivists gaining control of 1/7 of our economy, along with you and I. Very, very personally.

73. #81
    On July 15th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    in case none of you have seen the organizational chart for house version of the health care bill…look at this maze…empire building 101…

    http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf

74. #82
    On July 15th, 2009 at 3:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Obama wants all this a done deal by the August break. Right. It is not going to happen no matter how much he says it is. There is just too much at stake and too much opposition, even amongst democrates. Obama thinks he is god, but he isn’t. And he is going to lose on this issue, and also on crap and raid.

75. #83
    On July 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    It’s important for these hearings to be about Judge Sotomayor’s own record and her capacity for the job — not any political back and forth that some in Washington may use to distract you.

    Yes, we certainly wouldn’t want to have the focus be on anything other than the nominee’s record and capacity for the job.

    I seem to recall Democrat senators were completely respectful in their questions to Judges Bork and Thomas to ensure there was no “political back and forth.”

    Oh, wait. That’s not what happened.

    This hearing is a complete dog and pony show. There’s no way she is not going to be confirmed. Let’s just get it over with so Justice Sotomayor’s can get on with making future decisions to be made “not to serve the interests of any one litigant larger interest of impartial justice, but always to serve the larger interest of impartial justice interests of all minority litigants.”

    Here’s one question that someone may want to ask the nominee just as a point of information as to her order of precedence.

    We know that first and foremost Sotomayor will always be on the side of Latinas and always against white men against anyone else. But have her tell us, who would she side with if the litigants are a white lesbian and a black man?

76. #85
    On July 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    On July 15th, 2009 at 9:38 am, blizzard said:

    The chart also doesn’t show the inflow of illegals going into the system or is that just a given?

    yep that’s a given to an extent..the house version does state that nothing will be allowed for undocumented aliens…

    check out the house org chart…office of civil rights, office of minority health, and cultural and linguistics training…

77. #86
    On July 15th, 2009 at 6:38 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    ooops forgot this reference from the house bill:

    page 143 Section 246: No Federal payment for undocumented aliens