Socialized health care and the death of choice
Two more Obamacare items worth your attention this morning:
1) Investors’ Business Daily shines light on a provision in the Democrat takeover bill that will effectively kill off the market for individual insurance and funnel consumers into the “public option:”
When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it. So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee.
It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of “Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage,” the “Limitation On New Enrollment” section of the bill clearly states:
“Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day” of the year the legislation becomes law.
So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won’t be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.
2) The National Taxpayers Union weighed the references to taxes and regulation versus the references to options and choice in the Dems’ behemoth proposal. They found 1400 references to “taxes/regulation” compared to 88 for “choice/options.” And this sums it all up:
The terms “consumer-driven” and “patient-driven” as in consumer-driven and patient-driven choices and health care do not appear in the bill.
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Absolutely. But all you did was take something I said, which at least had some context and try to turn it around on me, without any proper context. What is really best is if you take elements of prior posts and incorporate them into a flame. But…you must remember, a flame is more than an insult. It is a back and forth conversation, so it really should address the last comment made. Otherwise it is just gratuitous insult.
Think about what I did in taking your innocuous comment about being from Piedmont and using that against you in a later post, where you simply threw out a random, out of context insult about my parentage. Therein lies the difference between an A answer and your C- responses so far.
You miss the point. it is not about who initiated it. It is about context and playing up to stereotypes. You apparently grew up in backwoods, backwards South Carolina, and I think that is part of Appalachia. Therefore a reference to bestiality is appropriate, though admittedly the use of sheep was a bit of artistic license to fit into the “falling to sleep” theme. I grew up in Upstate New York. If you can’t think of any stereotypes regarding that, I’ll tell you I grew up near Canada. Focus on those and come up with your own insulting stereotypes, rather than awkwardly pawing at mine like you used to do with the girls in high school.
Is any of this sinking in?
You are not worth arguing with. Stupid and arrogant doesn’t begin to define you. You somehow think you get to make the rules. Maybe this works in the back alleys at DuPont Circle but alas, it doesn’t apply in the real world.
I suggest you retire to those back alley with your gin, hairspray and sheep and indulge yourself. But use protection. You wouldn’t want to infect the poor sheep. They have some useful qualities whereas lawyers have none.
What a putz!
Your geographical ignorance is of course no excuse for your stupidity and arrogance. Of course everyone from New York thinks New York is the center of the universe so that explains some of your unending arrogance.
But, again, you claimed your “father” was from the backwoods in SC. I guess I should seek approval from you before using your posts in future retorts…
What a verkakte putz…
Sigh….
You think we are arguing now? I am trying to teach you something about how to properly engage in an online flame war, grasshopper. I am trying to bond!!! Why won’t you love me!!!
But to quote one of your comrades in arms, it is apparently like casting pearls before swine.
WE82:
Just call Chap a:
Doo-doo poopie head.
I’m telling you. It would be a step up for you.
See…an appropriate response here would be to make some jab that obviously only an idiot would confuse a stereotype relating to New York City (and actually probably more Manhattan) and try to apply it to someone who grew up 5 1/2 hours away and never even saw NYC until he was 18. And we are not talking Westchester here, I told you I grew up near Canada. So you should have gone after that angle.
But hey…you were closer there. At least you tried to make the flame somewhat relevant.
C+ But no cookie. Only a Fig Newton.
The idea that you have anything to teach me is hilarious. I have no interest in anything you think you know.
Apparently, arrogance and stupidity run deeply in your gene pool. I guess that comes from in-breeding with French Canadians that sneak across the border. But I would have thought even a Canuck would have enough sense not to mate with one of your ancestors. Perhaps he had a bit too much of that NY moonshine. I hope he mercifully went blind before he mated with your mother!
It is funny how arrogant all leftards are. And leftard lawyers are among the most arrogant of the bunch.
Chap:
He did make an attempt there. That wasn’t so bad actually. Not bad too, because everyone hates the French.
The awesome thing is that, while telling me I have nothing to teach him, he is actually legitimately trying to incorporate some of the lessons I have imparted to him!
He is a stubborn little grasshopper, but making progress nonetheless!
WarEagle, that last post was a solid B! Good job!
And actually, in all seriousness, this was very funny.
Chap:
Yes, I didn’t want to bring it up, I was afraid he might get defensive, it would ruin the progress, and then you’d be back to square one.
Wonderful work though. *cry*
Chappy,
Quite obviously some drunken Canuck mistook your other for an outhouse and you are the result.
I guess, considering the genetic material involved, this is the best we might have expected.
But, you do make a compelling argument in favor of Margaret Sanger’s views on eugenics. Fortunately for you your illiterate mother wasn’t one of her disciples…
Chap:
I think he just actually called you a doo-doo poopie head!
No, no. I’m not one of those negroes you used to chase out of town.
AWWWWW SMACK!!!!
Mad props if his intent was actually to do that in a less than totally obvious way!
I was in the first integrated elementary classroom in my home town. The only chasing we ever did was playing football and tag at recess.
Conservatives see people and not color. Professional racists like you, Boxer , Byrd and SotoMayor see nothing but color or gender when you look at people.
What a lark. A professional bigot accusing me of racism. You make me laugh but I am laughing AT you and not with you.
Verkakte putz!
Like I said, Chappy prefers the obvious and direct. Some of us are a bit more subtle.
You two are about as thick as Hillary Clinton’s thighs and as perky as Helen Thomas’ bossom…
What a pair of verkakte shlubs…
Chap:
Now he’s back to politics and this recent post seems to be taking credit for the indirect doo-doo-poopie-head double-whammy flame. Tacky, and it kind of kills the credibility.
I don’t know zero…I think he is beginning to take some of this personally.
Rule number one of Flame Club is you don’t talk about Flame Club.
Rule number two of Flame Club is…YOU DON’T TALK ABOUT FLAME CLUB.
Rule number three is you don’t take a flame war personally.
I mean, do you really think you needed to lay out a serious defense against my charge of hating blacks?
In the word of the great Crash Davis:
” I can’t keep giving you all of these free lessons!”
ZeroEverything,
You beg and beg and beg for it and when I give it you aren’t satisfied. Your wife told me she gets the treatment from you!
WE82:
LOL. I was about to call it a night.
Here’s another technique, the “self-effacing-your-flame-is-weak-and-has-no-bite-retort:”
Glad someone is taking care of the wife while I am in hotels doing lines of coke off hookers! You know how we atheists roll, after all.
Notice how I also played on your bigotry?
Looks like Chap is gone, it’s probably time for me to get back to watching TV. See ya!
I tried to teach him that with my responses to his jabs about my parentage. It is like asking a teen with his learners permit to get behind the wheel of a Lamborghini at this point.
But I do think he made some real strides tonight.
chap:
Email sent to you.