Barack Obama speaks the truth! Update: Mayo not okay-o with Obamacare
Team Obama’s gaffetastic moments are their most honest ones. Here is the president warning that the government health care take over will create “inefficiencies.”
Uhhhh, you can say that again, champ (click to watch):
Jinx, you owe me a Coke, Mr. President.
***
Snort: Obama invokes the Mayo Clinic to bolster his health care takeover plans…but Mayo doesn’t support Obamacare.
More from Mary Katharine Ham: Obama Loves Mayo, But Mayo Does Not Love Him (Update: Gibbs Responds, Badly)
Posted in: Health care
See what others have said
Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with my terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege.
Trackbacks
- The truth shall set you free! Obama says his health care plan would bring “Inefficiencies” to the system. | Fire Andrea Mitchell!
- Dems’ Sheep-herding Health Welfare Program Like Eastern Bloc: Reckless Disregard for Economic & Fiscal Reality « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Quote of the Day… “America’s Greatness” from Sen. Jim DeMint « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Native Americans Against Obama: “The Hype” « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Nightmare: Heritage Foundation Exposes Universal Health Care Myths & Destruction of Free Market « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- If ObamaCare Is So Great, Why Do They Need Republican Support? « Teh Resistance Blog
- President Obama’s Plan of Massive Deficit Spending Is Destroying The US Economy–The American People Say Stop Socialism BS Now! « Pronk Palisades
- Barack Obama speaks the truth! Update: Mayo not okay-o with Obamacare | The 2008 Elections
- Obamacare is the silent FOCA « Jim Blazsik
- Obama admin delays economic update as health care support dwindles « Wellsy’s World
- Health Care BS - QUESTION FOR PETER SINGER: WHO’S “WE”?
- The Quest For Quality Health Care « NEOAVATARA
- Conservatives, Libertarians, Health Care & The Sex Lives Of Republicans « Blog Entry « Dr. Melissa Clouthier
- Right Wing News
- President Prepares Army of Bloggers | The Substratum
- Video: The Anti-American President « Goodtimepolitics
- Game On: Obama Building Army of Left-wing Bloggers to Keep Socialized Health Care Pressure on Congress « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- ~ Dear President Obama: Just Who Do You Think You Are, Gambling With My Grandchildren’s Future? « Quick Daily Hits — Politics and Such
- Audience Cracks Up When MO Rep. Carnahan Claims ObamaCare Will Save Money: “If It’s So Good, Why Doesn’t Congress Have to Be on It?” (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Candidate Obama vs. President Obama (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Obama Health Care – like All Americans Taking Up A Three Pack a Day Smoking Habit; both Costly and Deadly « VotingFemale Speaks!
- Today’s Best Rush Limbaugh Quotes: Boffo Quips on Obama, Moderates, and Socialized Health Care « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Waterloo: ObamaCare Gauntlet Flung… Jim DeMint, Barack Obama, Charles Krauthammer, & ABBA Weigh In (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Rush Limbaugh: Obama on Edge as Magic Fades; DeMint Hits Nerve with “Waterloo” « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- “Black Sphere” Site Hacked and Attacked by Statist Thugs « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Stop That Chart! The Republican Single-Payer Health Care Flow Chart That Has Democrats in an Uproar « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- NYT: Senate Won’t Vote on Health Care “Obama’s Waterloo” Before Summer Break… Woo hoo! « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- “War on Senior Citizens”: Mark Levin Interviews Dr. Betsy McCaughey on ObamaCare Details « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Video Parody: Hey There, Obama (Drink the Kool Aid) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Video Parody: Hey There, Obama (Drink the Kool Aid) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- “You Gotta Support the Brother” - Unraveling of an Empty Suit: Black Criticism Mounting Against Obama, Radio Callers Rebuked by Sharpton « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Michigan Democrat Leader John Conyers: “Why Bother Reading the Health Care Bill?” « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Minus 10: Approval Index for Obama Still in the Dumper & Still Double Digits « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Canadian-Style Health Care: Shona Holmes and Her Brain Tumor (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Blue Dog DEMs Bite Obama – Slow The Hell Down!; Time is Against Obama who wants to jam Socialist Takeover down America’s throat « VotingFemale Speaks!
- ObamaCare Support Eroding, and Anderson Cooper Asks Tacky Question on ‘Regis and Kelly’ (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- “You Cursed Brat, I’m Melting, Melting…” — Nancy ‘Wicked Witch’ Pelosi Has Meltdown about Perceived Health Care Villains (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Obama’s Waterloo; ObamaCare Opposition, A Primal Human Instinct To SURVIVE; DEMs to Launch ObamaCare War on Voters by using GOP as Target « VotingFemale Speaks!
- Obama-Pelosi Declare WAR; Demonizing Health Industry; Warning, Socialist Demons At Work « VotingFemale Speaks!
- How Much Will It Cost… Really? Cool Visual Demos with Pennies Showing True Costs of Obama’s Stimulus Bill, Budget, & ObamaCare (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Laughable… Specter Says “It’s a Matter of Trust”: Crowd Explodes with Anger When Told Health Care Must Be Done “Fast” (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Darrell Issa to Rahm Emanuel on Stimulus/Porkulus Criticism: “Back Off! This Isn’t Chicago…” « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Rush Limbaugh: Town Hall ObamaCare Protests, “All Statist” Insurance, and “Obama The Joker” Posters « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Dr. Obama’s in the House: I’m Not a Doctor, but I Play One on TV (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Pelosi Calls Protesters “Astro-turf” & Sen. Barbara “Don’t Call Me Ma’am” Boxer Says ObamaCare Town Hall Protesters Are “Too Well-Dressed” So Must Be Fake (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Freedom for the Org Chart… Chalk One Up for the GOP: ObamaCare Organizational Flow Chart Now Freed for Mailing « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Stimulus/Porkulus in Chicago… Running Out of Money, City Closed for Business to Save « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- Walking Barefoot in a Pasture: Stepping in the Cow Patties of Government-Run Health Care Horror Stories (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- More Cow Patties, More Government-Run Health Care Horror Stories: US Military’s VA Health System (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone
- ObamaCare = ObamaSnoop; Socialist Backdoor to everything you hold PRIVATE! « VotingFemale Speaks!
Comments
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Categories: Health care
Power Line
» More From the East Anglia Archives
Sister Toldjah
» Obama plans to announce troop decision on Afghanistan next weekPundit & Pundette
» Various and sundryStop The ACLU
» Obama To Hold Another Prime Timer To Explain Our Afghanistan Strategy To Islamic ExtremistsRedstate
» Put Me in the No Camp on the Purity TestAmSpecBlog
» Lieberman Says He's "Stubborn" on Gov't PlanWeekly Standard
» Dowd on Palin
Ummmmmm.
No he di-ant!
Can’t unring that bell.
Finally, a promise that he will keep.
We have an embarrassing amateur as the POTUS of this great country. Who knew?
TOTUS is headed to “camp”…
Hasn’t been the same since it fell down.
It’s the flammable/inflammable rule again: they sound like opposites but…
“more jobs” actually means “job destruction”
“85% of new jobs will be private sector jobs” actually means “all job losses will be suffered by the private sector, especially the upper middle class jobs”.
“The end of budget deficits” means “Deficits as far as the eye can see”.
And so on…
Excellent candidate for the next round of “Cone of Shame” awards.
I just love MM and HA for their giving us our real news on our bho. Precious few will, but gotta get my feel good here.
Thanks Michelle.
L
Shocking, isn’t it.
But at least he won’t give amnesty to the mexicans. And that’s the important thing to keep in mind here. Or so I’m told.
Just look at that poor man. He is tired. He is weary. He can’t keep his lies straight and that is very hard on the sleep. I wonder when he will crack. It is coming. He shows his true nature more and more every day.
Once again, a gaffe is when a politician unwittingly tells the truth.
But,buttt, President George W. Bush was a knuckle dragging neanderthal – not the most articulate orator of all time – and if he’d said anything even close to this it would have been the leading story on every news broadcast for days, including every little station between Gila Bend and Barstow.
*Extra Mayo for me, hold the P-BO!
Barry channelled Joe Biden there. What a pair of nincompoops. I just can’t help but shake my head.
Emergency repairs are averaging a 9 – 18 month delay at the government repair center. We’re not sure which vacuum tube replaces the chips inside – ICs are too “experimental” and not allowed.
As my sons say…
ssssSSSSMACK…!!!
This, to me, is proof positive that he doesn’t believe the lies he spouts (not that I ever thought he did). When a person believes in what they are saying, they realize when they make these gaffes and correct them. He’s just out saying what he thinks everyone wants to hear, what he thinks will get him support. He no more believes this bullcrap than we do. It’s all about power, as most of us have been saying for a very long time.
The distinguished gentleman at the desk next to me, a Navy CPO of nubian extraction, assures me that many blacks do not like mayo.
Freud meets banana peel.
Buckley would call this gaffe a “Freudian petticoat.”
He’s such a dork. sheesh
This
isn’tis about me. Thisisn’tis about politics. This is abouta health care system that isbreaking America’s families, breaking America’s businesses, and breaking America’s economy,” Obama said on a visit to a Washington hospital.The fact that he said “this is not about me” means that it is about him. IN the quote, I would substitute “president” for “health care system”.
A government health insurance plan is a non-starter if you want to lower costs and increase quality.
Milton Friedman’s talk at Mayo Clinic on Socialized Medicine. Seems almost prophetic.
sorry…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPADFNKDhGM
“Knock, knock!”
Obama: “Who’s there?”
“Reality”
Obama: “Sorry, I don’t know who are. So I will not open that door.”
Freud is smiling from the grave.
This is what happens when you murder a TOTUS. His revenge is sweet.
I still think it was death from abuse.
And now, from MSN.com:
How ’bout answering the birth certificate critics first there, dick-weed!
The Mayo Clinic can expect a tax audit, and a bit of trouble over the 15 or so mandatory inspections it must pass for Obama care. As for mayonnaise, I think that will be declared a hazardous substance, except for the ruling elite, of course.
Most likely. TOTUS being primarily glass, leaped to his death.
And another from MSN.com:
…plus 12 trillion bucks…
Is there anything Government does better and less expensively than private industry?
OK, he misspoke, and I suppose it is easy to make light of his gaffe, but it will not stop the proposed health legislation.
I prefer a different approach and that is to address why current healthcare costs so much. How does one lower the current costs of healthcare. Don’t change the entire system, find out what needs to be done to lower costs.
By example, and take me to task should you find it necessary, think in terms of the expenses of Doctors. Were their costs cut, would that result in lower healthcare costs?
If the Government provides insurance for people who build homes in coastal hurricane prone areas, because private insurance is too expensive. What about providing governement insurance to Doctors?
Doctors have to pay exorbitant amounts of money for medical school. There is the USPHS and the military, that pays for tuition in exchange for specific services after graduation. After their commitment, the Doctors typically go into private prqactice. Heck, expand those programs and have more doctors with fewer loans to pay off, and guess what? They can pass those savings onto to their patients.
And, what about medical schools? Why are they so expensive? Why is college so expensive? OK, almost went on a tangent. Why are there a limited number of slots to become a Doctor in the US. I’ve had Fraternity Brothers who had to go to medical school overseas for this reason.
Same thing with nurses. My niece was up against a system that limits the number of nursing school slots. And, please do not tell me about the best and the brightest. It is not about taking a potentially weak candidate, it is about putting out the best. If you don’t cut it, you are gone, and out of the program. Medical and Nursing schools, with the support of the Government, establish an artificial market. Get rid of the artificial barriers to enter the medical profession.
Basic Economics 101, the more there is of a thing, the likelihood it will cost less.
Government funded medical and drug research is another area. If Governemnt money is used in research, the notion of proprietary data goes out the window with exclusive use of the results and products created. At a minimum the Government should share in any benefit resulting from Government funded medical and drug research.
There are other ways to address healthcare costs and they are not being examined. Yep, make fun of gaffes, but also, offer more concrete ways to reducing the cost of healthcare. Are any elected Republican officials listening? Are any right wing pundits listening?
Okay -
Hey Government, get the hell out of healthcare and everything else that American does exceptionally well!
Anything else?
Seriously. He thought Mayo is what goes on his Arugula sam’mich.
George is going to be pissed, Barry messed up his lines.
More government is NOT the answer to ANYTHING. Less government is the only answer to issues like this. The cost of healthcare is a direct result of government over-regulation and lawsuits from scum layers like Obama and Edwards (or pick any democrat bureaucrat).
Where’s Michelle’s banging head against wall gif?
Do we know yet when they’re voting on this insanity? I do not have a lot of spare time right now to make phone calls so if I get a chance to call up my reps I want to do it right.
As to reducing costs, the private industry already does some things. It’s motivated to do that because it can’t just tax more heavily when it wants money. My insurance plan has a call-a-nurse service so I don’t have to go all the way to the doctor every time I need advice about something wrong. It’s a really good idea. Also, I know we’re supposed to think pharmacuetical companies are the spawn of Satan, but if a drug is advertising in your doctor’s office, that’s cutting costs, actually, or rather letting the drug companies pick up some of them in exchange for promos. Somebody in the waiting room may really find info about the drug useful, too. Pharmacies go for generics, and at least one popular pharmacy I’ve been to has signs all over the place saying TALK to them if you can’t afford your medicine; they will work with you. Capitalism does not breed heartlessness.
Are you suggesting that future doctors go thru the government cookie-cutter program in order to practice medicine?
Why always look to government to be the answer?
Doesn’t work with a welfare mentality. More handouts leads to long lines at the handout office – brought to you by your US Government run by Liberal Democrats for 60+ years.
Just vote for Earl.
Anyone who really wants to lower healthcare costs will support tort reform. One of a doctor’s largest, if not the largest, expense is malpractice insurance. Tort reform would cut that cost significantly.
I had to sit on a jury years ago on a medical malpractice case. It was clear from the beginning that the plaintiff had “put on” the entire episode. She claimed that the mix of medications she was given before surgery (versed and something else I don’t remember) caused her to regress to the mental capacity of a 3 year old, yet she was sitting in front of us as normal as you and me, with absolutely no lingering effects. There was a lot more to the case, but in a nutshell, this case had been going on for over 10 years. It took all of us on the jury less than one hour to come back with a decision. How much money could have been saved if that ridiculous suit had not been able to get to a jury? Plenty, I’m sure. I had to give kudos to that doc for taking it all the way and not letting the insurance company settle.
C’mon, we know you mean it this way.
Get rid of the frivolous lawsuits and ambulance chasing hacks like Edwards, then Doctors won’t have to charge exorbitant amounts just to cover their malpractice insurance. Then, get rid of government over-regulation, and all the free-loading illegal aliens demanding free care and citizenship for their babies which is driving many hospitals to bankruptcy.
You remind me of the nitwit leftist lawyer that was pregnant, and whined about her Doctor who wouldn’t see her any more after suing him on behalf of one of her “clients”.
Answered above.
So government creates the mess, then they should use more of our tax dollars to fix it?
Yeah I could see hundreds of lib doctors lining up to put on a uniform, or volunteering at a VA now.
How about complaining to the universities that create mausoleums to themselves and their liberal thinking?
Ever hear of a university having to cut back? do with less? a professor being laid off?
Yet I bet you have no problem with affirmative action in all other areas of life.
You just lost all liberals here since none of them understand ANYTHING about economics.
Do you know how many drugs are tested overseas because of the regulation here?
And we have Obama to blame since he is demanding his way or the highway. Socialization or nothing.
Conservatives have been demanding Tort Reform for years, but the liberals refuse to see their lawyer buddies do with less.
Bush expanded government involvement in medical care during his term, but it was not enough for the left. Nothing other than complete control was enough.
Until you volunteer at a VA for a month, you have no clue how bad government run health care can be.
Great points and ones that the government seems to avoid discussing at all costs. I think one of the biggest problems is that medical care costs so much because it is a big business that not only has to pay medical professionals, but also attorneys must have their hand in the pot stealing money. The biggest reason why that is never addressed is because we send attorneys to Washington D.C. Ask John Edwards about tort reform and he’ll change the subject quickly.
You have undoubtedly seen the commercials on tv, have you taken the drug reforim (made up)? Have you had shaky knees, sweaty palms or did you or a loved one die? Then call Boy, Dowecheatem, and how, you could be owed money. I found out that when drug companies market a drug, they get 3 years to make money, then the attorneys get to legally steal a percentage of their profits. They start the lawsuit without clients, then get to advertise for clients, who of course go visit their doctors to “determine how much damage they have suffered”. Talk about ambulance chasing. This is given a green light by their attorney friends in Congress.
You talked about best and brightest in med school. Not a chance, med school is a PC festival today. A guy I knew who hung out for happy hour at my old watering hole (I would not tell people I am a doctor while out for drinks, but that is him) who is an anethesiologist. (can’t spell that). He complained once that he taught school along with practicing medicine and told me that he had to dumb down his tests over 4 times so that quite a few of his minority students in his class would pass. This was on orders from the director. Our health care system could use some fixing, and definitely not the type the dems want to do.
OK. And, I will not disagree.
The reality is that even in the current system, the Government has requirements, regulations, and laws. Consider if the Government did not have standards for nursing homes.
It is not about having Government rules and regulations, it is about how intrusive those rules and regulations are. We accept that rules and regulations are necessary. And, absolutely, there should be a limit of intrusion. But where to draw that line?
The reality is that we need structure, enforcement and standards. Like it, or not.
Heck, wouldn’t it have been nice if the SEC employed it’s rules and addressed Bernie Madoff before so many people lost their life savings?
Rules are necessary. Even the Bible had rules. Fairly simple straight forward rules. There are only ten, yet they are pretty good.
I understand not liking too many rules, but they are necessary.
Obama and Biden, starring in a comedy riot as “Laurel and Hardy”.
Now playing at the White House in Washington DC.
What a Gaffe-Team!
On July 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm, puhiawa said:
The Mayo Clinic can expect a tax audit, and a bit of trouble over the 15 or so mandatory inspections it must pass for Obama care. As for mayonnaise, I think that will be declared a hazardous substance, except for the ruling elite, of course.
Obama is proving his inexperience and has no idea what he nor his staff are doing. The “ramming down the throat” of unread bills is very suspecious. His marxist agenda must be in place by the elections of 2010. The people of the US must sue the government for this indignation of a President. Until he can produce a valid birth certificate he is not my president. A new bill should be made where anyone running for president must plaster his birth certificate on the front page of every newspaper. Gullible we are not!
Where all all the wise sages who pontificate about Sarah Palin and how she needs to study and grow in foreign affairs and is not quite intellectual enough for national office? I’m a high school drop out but I could damn well differentiate between efficiencies and inefficencies. Plus I would know who is on my side and who is against me. Obama for sure is against guys like me.
No. Absolutely not. If healthcare cost is the issue, then address the costs of healthcare. A component of the cost of health care is the cost of becoming a Doctor. What is wrong with proposing a way to reduce the cost of becoming a Doctor?
I agree. Government is not always the answer. Yet, my suggestion is one of consistency. If the Government provides insurance for people who build homes in precarious places, why not help with Doctor’s liability insurance?
A precedent has been established. The Government provides subsidies, though I am not suggesting it is the correct thing to do, I am just saying it is being done, and to be consistent, apply it to Doctors.
Yet, we Americans accept all kinds of social programs. Try and put an end to one.
Why should we continue the home mortgage deduction? Heck, the tax code is replete with silliness. Why should there be a deduction for dependants? If you want to have eight children, that is your choice. Why get a deduction for your choice to have eight children?
I am waiting for a politician, any politician, who will call for an end to mortgage deductions. Or, an end to medicare, medicaid and deductions for the number of children you freely have? These things continue to exist for a reason, because the people like them.
Despite all the talk about socialism, the country has been given a taste of it, and we like it.
.
Who is Earl? Don’t you mean, vote for Pedro?
If zyz wants to talk about something concrete, here’s two to start with…
1)tort reform
2)end capital gains taxes
We had the SEC and people still lost 50 billion+. Wall Street would police itself if there were no SEC because who would invest in such shady operations? But now even though people lose 50+billion we keep pouring money into Wall Street because the SEC is in place. Oh Boy, I feel safe.
What’s this ‘we’ crap? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
My family has never had a taste of ‘it’ as you write. Everything we are, and everything we have is paid for by us.
Most of us in here just want to keep more of what we work for. Otherwise we are simply slaves.
Something I haven’t heard mentioned. The “change-over” to Obama care would be chaotic. Having been thru three different corporate takeovers of other companies I remember the frustration and chaos that ensued as they merged the companies. If he were to get his plan , irrespective of expected Government ineptitude, the mere implementation of the process would be a major catastrophe!
Of course to the liberal mind those people who would fall through the cracks and probably lose their lives would be giving themselves over to a good cause..LOL
Two acts would fix healthcare:
1. Tort reform
2. Government get out of healthcare!
That would fix 95% of the problems. To those who believe it would leave some people without healthcare, TOUGH. Life is made up of choices. Choose wisely.
Ordering lunch:
Chavez: “I’ll have a cheekon sandwich wid a libe cheekon!”
Obama: “Oh you don’t have to order anything special for me, I’ll have a bite of everybody elses! Just hold the Mayo!
Keep in mind that Obama is talking about socializing the Mayo Clinic because he knows the average Democrat voter will support it because they think it means they’ll get free salad dressing.
Rogue, I have that album! WOW!!!!!!
Operator: “Excuse me. This is the operator Captain Oveur. I have an emergency call for you on line five from a Mr. Hamm.”
Captain Oveur: “All right. Give me Hamm on five, hold the Mayo.”
from Airplane
I had that album for many years but was stolen out of my van years ago. In case anybody wants to know, Fly and me are talking about Vaughan Meader’s “First Family” comedy album from 1962. A funny takeoff of JFK until the assasination, which not only killed JFK, but also Vaughan’s comedy career.
On July 20th, 2009 at 11:44 pm, Republicanvet said: #45
Nope. I said it the way I wanted. Though your suggestion has an impact of it’s own.
Exactly. There are many other ways to approach the high cost of healthcare, and unfortunately, those things are not being addressed.
Ummm, OK, but I have no idea what this means and fail to see any connection to what I have said.
And, I agree. There are many ways to address the high cost of healthcare that are not being examined, and should.
Nope. Government did not create the mess. They are creating a mess. My suggestion, is just that, a suggestion. Would Government provided insurance to Doctors impact the cost of healtcare? Examine the possibility, that is all. If it works, fine. If it doesn’t, fine.
Yet, they do. It is the trade-off for getting a medical education. Lib or con, it happens all the time. For example, people go into the military to get training for a multitude of jobs. And, the trade-off is, you also must carry a rifle fro a period of time.
Absolutely. That is why I asked the question, why is medical school so expensive? If medical school cost less, those savings would, or could, result in lower healthcare costs. The medical schools should be challenged to lower their costs.
Yes.
Huh?
I am not suggesting any shmoe should be accepted into medical or nursing school. Of course, you have to capable and qualified.
I disagree. There is an old saw that goes, ten economists are in a room and there are eleven opinions. Economic principles are understood by libs and cons, it is just the application of those principles that causes disagreemnet.
I imagine there are many. I can name two, RU-486 and Thalidomide. I prefer our superior system.
Not true. Pres Obama has given the ball to Congress to draft the legislation. He has only suggested broad requests. Whatever the Congress comes up with is what he will, or will not, sign into law.
Agreed. Yet another way to get a handle the high cost of healthcare. And yes, this is one issue that Pres Obama has taken off the table. If the right had any stones they would push, even demand, that this issue be part of the healthcare legislation.
OK.
I am sure there are many anecdotal stories, both good and bad, about the VA.
Thalidomide was thoroughly tested on animals, which showed no ill effects on litters born.
That simply shows animal testing is a poor substitute for human results.
No, I do not have a mouse in my pocket.
Address the specific programs I mentioned in post #52. Individually you may not participate in those programs, many do. And, that is the ‘we’ I am talking about.
There are many other programs that ‘we’ have and that ‘we’ are unwilling to give up.
Besides the programs I mentioned, consider farm subsidies. Why are there farm subsidies? Because, enough of ‘we’ like it. Try stopping farm subsidies. There are enough ‘we’ who would go ballistic.
Again, you individually may not participate, but ‘we’ do like Government programs.
While I understand your statement of how the system works with Legislation drafting the bill, you’re oversimplifying his involvement as if he is not heavily engaged in this process. If you sincerely do not believe that Rahm Emmanuel and the rest of the White House staff are not in the ears of all the democrat committee members, you’re kidding yourself.
It’s more than just broad requests. That’s why there have been Obamamercials and DNC sponsored commercials targeting Democrats on this.
Sure, there might be some power plays between Pelosi, Reid, and Obama, but at the end of it all this bill started with him regardless of the division of powers. This is a problem with legislators becoming part of the executive branch. They often do not know how to stop “writing” law.
Dept of Redundancy Dept ALERT! The words “government” and “inefficiencies” were used in the same sentence by Zerobama.
Zyzzyg,
I agree with you more than disagree. However, when Obama demands legislation get passed before it is properly vetted, he IS the problem.
You are wrong about the giveaways with regard to most conservatives. We are not the ones who started this welfare state and would happily see it go the way of the Dodo. Your fight lies with the Dems. Happy hunting.
Two reforms that are “shovel-ready.”
Tort reform and illegal immigration.
Just try slaughtering those two liberal sacred cows.
I accept that White House staff are in the ears of the people in Congress, who are writing the legislation.
Great point. And, he is violating his own promise to post legislation on line.
Huh? ‘Giveaways’? As in Pork? To my knowledge there are only three members in Congress who don’t do pork. Sen McCain, Rep Flake (I think that is his name) and Rep Paul.
Nope. You can name the most conservative member in either house, and they will have their finger prints on pork, and/or ‘giveaways.’
As for conservatives who are not in elected office, it is easy to say, ‘end all subsidies, pork, giveaways, and social welfare systems’.
What would happen then is rather than Mommy/Daddy or Grampa/Grandma being dumped off someplace, you would have to step up and see what kind of place you were putting them in, and demand appropriate care.
People stopped giving a damn about where their parents/grandparents were warehoused when Uncle started paying the tab. Believe me, I know because my Mother has worked for a Nursing Home for over 20 years.
So why come here and whine the Republicans are not doing enough?
Which is why most liberals are in favor of socialized health care…many cannot think.
You are rather flippant with a huge amount of tax dollars, not to mention the proper care of millions of people. “Who cares? Lets try it and if we bomb, Oh well!”
You have no concept of the wreckage that would occur.
Not much of an answer there, but what I expected with leftist thinking.
Again, a non-answer.
Name them. Provide specifics. I highly doubt you can.
Yet your side of the aisle continually pushes affirmative action, without regard to outcomes or consequences.
You really like the Kool-Aid don’t you? Your answer tries to suggest he has zero role in this issue, which is a flat-out lie.
…and if the left had any scruples or convictions, they would join the Republicans in this demand. Since they have not, over many YEARS of trying this, it remains a huge problem in the cost of health care.
Care to put up? Name one Democrat that has supported any Tort Reform legislation…in the last thirty years!
Nice….smarmy…dodge. Address the point made. You are the one demanding our health care be turned into something worse than the VA, step up and explain why!