infallible said that PP aren’t ‘baby killers’.

I asked if they did abortions.

infallible polished the turd & replied that ’97%’ of what PP does is ‘educate’ (didn’t answer the question).

So, the lie is that PP are not ‘baby killers’.
If they do one abortion, they have killed a baby.
infallible simply wants us to stop shouting ‘baby killers!’ and start shouting ‘fetus killers!’.

So just how much have unwanted pregnancies, single mother homes and STDs decreased in the last 20/30/40 years? How are we doing on the welfare/Aid to Dependent Children front?

Yes infallible we had all these problems in the sixties but you and yours have raised illegitimate birth, STDs and welfare to a Religious Rite. And it is NOT a scratch on a picture frame–it is a baby, or as our Liberals prefer “pulsating mass of maggots.”. Killing maggots acceptable?

On July 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pm, infallible said:

I’m surprised it took this long to Godwin this thread. Thanks!

You just hate it when we use liberal tactics against you, don’cha?

On July 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm, infallible said:

Lastly, how is ANY education bad? What possible benefit comes from limit what these kids learn?

When it’s all lies, propaganda, and bullsh** it’s bad. Real bad. Mind bending bad. Trampling on the constitution and saying “it’s for the chirrin” bad. Electing a freaking foreign national as president bad.

Next time, instead of mindlessly participating in an Orwellian nightmare try reading his book, you just might get the whole idea behind “four legs good, two legs bad”…

Nah, just kidding, if you’re a liberal you won’t have a clue before or after reading it.

Well, I guess this is the point where I note that a fetus is not a baby.

And a child is not an adult, but that doesn’t give you the right to kill children. A child, just like a fetus, will develop into an adult if YOU DON’T KILL IT.

On July 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm, infallible said:
Well, I guess this is the point where I note that a fetus is not a baby. Words have meanings, so try to use the proper one in context.

From the Declaration of Indepedence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. – John Adams

The founding fathers and principles of this nation are in direct opposition to an organization such as planned parenthood. I am sure if you ask any of the founders or authors of the US COnstitution you will find them to be very much against the idea of aborting unborn children.

All great nations and civilization who wander and talk themselves away from the basic moral and principles that human civilzation has lived by for thousand of years, became another pile in the ash heap of history.

Yes words mean things, but actions speak louder. We are seeing this every day now in our country. The politicians want you to listen to what they are saying, but don’t watch what they are doing.

On July 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm, infallible said:

You guys have your fingers in your ears about this stuff.

Speaking of anatomy, I think you pulled that 97% figure out of your ass.

Professional Liars…it’s a Democrat thing.

“Reducing the Need for Abortions Initiative.”

Liberal translation:
Perform enough abortions and eventually you reduce the population. A smaller population reduces the overall need for abortions.

Whether it’s abortion, global warming, or protecting the environment, what liberals are most concerned about is over-population. The ultimate solution to every problem is to reduce the population, especially among undesireables:

“Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
– Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg; Jul 7, 2009; New York Times Magazine

Of course, that means nothing to you, since you are an avid Planned Parenthood apologist, who can’t even argue or debate its awful record regarding rape, abortion, and racism. You ignore those evils. Why should we listen to anything you have to say?

Really, you have NO credibility.

So far you’re batting zero.

I never said there was no such thing as STDs or out of wedlock births; I said that the LEVELS were NOWHERE back then as they are now.

We’ve tried your liberal experiment and it has failed miserably. The last 40 years has proven that.

Your lies, obfuscations, and straw men are BS.

And regarding your commonality with Hitler: if the show fits…

And you act like I’m talking about teaching kids how to host a kickass orgy. I’m not. But they need to know about condoms, birth control, and other means of prevention (yes, including abstinence, just not exclusively abstinence).

There’s this claim I’ve heard here a couple times that abstinence education works so well. If that’s the case, then why is it that you find a correlation of higher rates of teen pregnancy and *repeat* teen pregnancy in places with locations where there is no comprehensive sex education?

Lastly, how is ANY education bad? What possible benefit comes from limit what these kids learn?

You guys have your fingers in your ears about this stuff.