The science czar stonewalls

Can a population control freak holding the prestigious title of “Science Czar” get away with published musings on forced abortion, mass sterilization programs, and a “planetary regime” to re-engineer society by simply stonewalling?
He’s trying his best.
Last week, I called the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy to press Science Czar John Holdren on his views; his purported disavowal of Ecoscience, the book he co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich; and his continued embrace of forced-abortion advocate and eugenics guru Harrison Brown, whom he credits with inspiring him to become a scientist.
I got an earful from OSTP flack Rick Weiss, who lectured me about journalism. He let me know that he was a reporter for 15 years (at the Washington Post) and put me on notice against writing a “smear job.” He had snippy words for blogs covering the Holdren story and warned against making unfair associations between what Holdren believes and what other population control promoters believe.
But when I pressed him specifically about Holdren’s relationship with Harrison Brown, he:
1) said he didn’t know who he was;
2) balked at drawing any conclusions about Holdren’s views based on his homages to Brown (even though Brown is a lifelong intellectual mentor, colleague, and continued inspiration for Holdren);
3) and told me not to expect any response from Holdren’s office on my specific question about whether Hodren disavows his relationship with a eugenics enthusiast who referred to the world population as a “pulsating mass of maggots.”
I didn’t have any luck. Maybe you will.
Questions:
1) Does Dr. Holdren disavow the population control extremism of his intellectual mentor and colleague, Harrison Brown or not?
2) Does Dr. Holdren also view the world population as a “pulsating mass of maggots?”
3) Was Dr. Holdren unaware of Harrison Brown’s views when he paid homage to him at the AAAS keynote address in 2007?
Contact the science czar:
Office of Science and Technology Policy
Executive Office of the President
725 17th Street Room 5228
Washington, DC 20502
info@ostp.gov
Director’s Office
Phone: 202.456.7116
Fax: 202.456.6021
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I am going to reprint here again what I reported last week on Holdren and Brown as a reminder of what the science czar refuses to talk about:
Well, I have indeed read one of Holdren’s recent works that reveals his clingy reverence for, and allegiance to, the gurus of population control authoritarianism. He’s just gotten smarter about cloaking it behind global warming hysteria. In 2007, he addressed the American Association for the Advancement of Science conference. Holdren served as AAAS president; the organization posted his full powerpoint presentation (you can download the whole thing here.)
Take a gander at the opening slide that set the tone for his entire speech. Holdren admitted that his “preoccupation” with apocalyptic matters such as “the rates at which people breed” is a lifelong obsession inspired by scientist Harrison Brown:
Who is Harrison Brown? And what’s in “The Challenge of Man’s Future?” Holdren’s hero was a “distinguished member” of the International Eugenics Society. And, lo and behold, Harrison Brown advocated the same population control-freak measures Holdren put forth in Ecoscience.
Harrison Brown, writing to us from the year 1954 in his book, “The Challenge of Man’s Future,” suggests a method that would strike us as a crass violation of the rights mentioned above:
Let us suppose that in a given year the birth rate exceeds the death rate by a certain amount, thus resulting in a population increase. During the following year the number of permitted inseminations is decreased, and the number of permitted abortions is increased, in such a way that the birth rate is lowered by the requisite amount. If the death rate exceeds the birth rate, the number of permitted inseminations would be increased while the number of abortions would be decreased. The number of abortions and artificial inseminations permitted in a given year would be determined completely by the difference between the number of deaths and the number of births in the year previous.
But that wouldn’t be all. If we are to maintain a worldwide sustainable industrial society, we will need to control population across current borders. If we don’t, many members of overpopulated societies will soon be knocking at our doors asking for assistance or even entry.
Brown also suggests that such control over reproduction might be used to slow down the deterioration of the human species. This has occurred in industrial society because humans are no longer subject to natural selection to the same degree that they have been in the past. Those who are healthy and able might be encouraged through incentives to have several offspring, while those who have deficiencies, say, of sight or hearing or mental ability might be discouraged. The problem, he notes, is in deciding what really constitutes “fit” or “unfit” and overcoming our revulsion to such a eugenics scheme. Still, he adds, when one considers the bald evolutionary facts, it behooves human societies, if they want to remain resilient in the face of changing conditions on Earth, to somehow replace nature’s cruel hand in pruning the so-called “unfit” with something less drastic. It’s that or face eventual extinction.
Brown acknowledges that none of this will seem acceptable to the vast majority of his readers. But, he is concerned that unless population stability and other problems are addressed head on, arrangements that are far more restrictive and objectionable than the ones he proposes may be implemented in their place.
Harrison Brown’s book — the book that inspired Obama science czar John Holdren — also infamously likened the world’s growing population to “a pulsating mass of maggots.” Don’t just believe me. Believe your own eyes:
A Time magazine profile of Brown published when his book came out in 1954 reported: “Scientist Brown is not confident that anything can be done, but he insists that population control is the first and essential measure; only by cutting their birth rates drastically can the crowded agricultural countries hope to enjoy the benefits of industrialization.”
If, as the White House claims, Holdren no longer believes that “that determining optimal population is a proper role of government,” then why does he still pay homage to one of the country’s most renowned population control advocates and plug his half-century-old tome advocating better-living-through-engineered-abortions? Don’t just take my word. Believe your own eyes:
Dr. Holdren, come out, come out, wherever you are.
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I would participate in this thread, but Hell’s Kitchen is on!
Yea Gordon Ramsay!
Sorry. Sort of reminded me of the innocence and experience dichotomy.
Would that I could.
I hope that you are cooking with the wife they say you ignore.
You know him?
What are the chances of that?
She hates the show, so is playing Guitar Hero in the other room. I already cooked her a nice shrimp fra diavolo tonight.
I love Ramsay. I watch all his shows on BBC (Restaurant Nightmares, The F Word)
We went to his restaurant at Clairidge in London on our first anniversary.
Best, and most expensive meal, I have ever had.
I know. I was just having some fun.
I was looking forward to a lively evening. The wife is off somewhere doing something and I got to enjoy leftover ribs and beer while watching anything I want on tv and hanging out here. Being single sucked at the time, but it’s kind of nice as a break once in a while.
Tanks, so much chapoutier.
Fascinated by your comments.
Don’t know whay Guitar Hero is.
Don’t know who Ramsay is.
Turn on Fox right now. He is the cursing limey.
So…
it really appears more and more that we are being governed by a mob of monsters.
The question, to my mind, is what to do about it?
Interrupt the cogs of the machine!!!!
Or something like that.
You be livin’ in tall cotton.
Who dat limey?
Well Rags, personally, I have my representative on speed dial. I think they’ve either figured out that it’s dumb luck that a Democrat got elected here or they recognize my number, because they’re not as friendly on the phone as they were a few months ago. I’ve informed every elected official of my stance on every issue as often as I can. I’ve attended Tea Parties and I’m only donating to conservative candidates.
Until the shooting starts, that’s about it.
Actually, somebody here mentioned that there are precinct committeman positions open all over, so I may look into that to see if that’s the case here.
Arguably the best chef in the world right now. At least in the discussion.
We should not worry too much about the sagging death rate.
Obamacare is just around the corner… Those death rates will have us at a “sustainable” level in no time!
Don’t know wha…? How can… *stammers* Oh dear G… *stumbles*
*falls*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero_%28series%29
Personally, I only played it once at a friends house. It turned out I was pretty good too, having actualy played guitar, albeit poorly, many years ago. It’s nothing like playing actual guitar, but playing actual guitar gives you finger dexterity that better equips you to play the game.
In any case, I like video games that are a bit more involved, but it was fun.
OK, back to the wife and kid.
Not until he wins at least one of the major BBQ competitions. Or gets a show as enjoyable as Good Eats.
OK, but seriously… Do any of these people and their actions disturb the moderate Chaps?
The political efforts would be good…as far as they can go.
Have you considered my option, designed as a middle way between the norm and a shooting rebellion?
Good point.
You need to watch “The F Word.” Though Good Eats is brilliant. I can read and follow a freaking recipe thank you very much Emeril and Rachel. I want to know WHY I should use this type of lentil over that one and WHY I should cook this cut of beef over high, quick heat. Those are lessons that make you a better cook beyond the recipe.
Never had any of his food, but until he wears Orange Clogs, he’s not fit to sharpen Mario’s knives.
I see threads on boobs, wine, and food.
Nigella Lawson, anyone?
Have you ever seen that show where Mario tours around Spain with Gwyneth Paltrow and some other dude on PBS?
Pretty good.
But Ramsay would knock Mario’s clock off.
Lawson (with bow chicka music in background): …and you’ve really got to get in there and knead that dough. That’s right knead that naughty naughty dough…
I misssed that one, but saw one where he was wandering Italy with his buddy Sancho Panza and checking out some cool restaurants.
I could so kick your arse on guitar, ZA. (No brag, just fact)
I was thinking of a cup of soup for dinner.
No problem there. I already don’t pay them anything until April 15th. So it won’t be hard to hold out at least until the IRS threatens around May/June of next year, then we’ll see.
Crox, not clogs.
I agree wholeheartedly with this post, though. Especially because the “I’m a genius so I can be a jerk” thing irritates me.
Isn’t it still breakfast out there in the Hawaiian Aleutian time zone?
The most communist of all the time zones.
Pretty sure he was a jerk long before he became successful. Not sure if that changes the equation for you.
purplepeep:
Real guitar or guitar hero? In any case, like I said, I wasn’t that good at all on the former and only played the latter once.
I could totally beat your a$$ in Battleground Europe!
Heh… I shouldn’t… I could… it’s just so wrong… oh hell, I will:
My wife’s boobs are both huge and a source of nourishment considering we got a little one now. Now, if only genetic engineering could make it so that one dispenses wine…. hmmm…
Watch it! Them’s cookin’ words!
All Ramsay has to do is go on Iron Chef and we’ll find out. I don’t think he’s up to a head to head competition, though.
And the so called American “Iron Chefs” would not hold a candle to Chen Kenichi or Sakai-san.
Where is WarEagle? I want to know exactly which wine the Italian Trade Commission says goes best with breast.
Mid-afternoon. Certainly the most communist latitude – about the same as Cuba.
True! And the American “Chairman” is a very poor imitation of the original…except for Mario…
Don’t you know?
All of them! Every single Italian wine pairs great with everything, including breast!
I know cause the say so!
People’s Republic of Hawai’i time zone, getting ready for the partial solar eclipse, courtesy of Sen. Dan Inouye and Sen. Dan Akaka.
He’s definitely missing “something” …can’t quite put my finger on it…but for some reason Liberace keeps popping up in my head.
Careful
The vision of Nigella, eating a ripe strawberry, is enough to make the nuns paddle me.
Well, only 243 posts and now my wife is home.
Sorry, zero, maybe next time.
I think someone needs to get their priorities in order.
I just checked and my wife says my priorities are just fine.
As long as I sign off now.
See you guys tomorrow.
John:
Yah, threads just don’t have the steam they normally do unless you insult and demean people’s deeply held beliefs in effort to prove you aren’t evil.
That said, the Italian Trade Commission is correct, pretty much any wine goes with breasts and sexual intercourse.
I’m talkin’ real world Fenderish-stuff here, ZA. Never did fantasy-role play type stuff.
I’m talkin’ “Freebird” – bass, rhythm or lead behind my back, blindfolded type thingee. (Provided I got the right starting-fret, lol)
Of course, I been at it since about 13 y.o., so I’ze gots da advantage on ya
Pretty much do just session stuff re:guitar these-a-days, tho.
Let me talk to her. I will explain how important your presence is to this derailed thread and how it is her duty as the wife to support her husband’s endeavors. 3 posts of my “chap charm” will have you posting comments here till two in the morning.
purplepeep:
I bet I could beat you in both fantasy-role play Battleground Europe AND a RL duel with your choice of 1942 military equipment!
“Dinosaurs ‘n peeps”, ZA! That should bring out yer true foul, inner vile evilness!!
:: shudder ::
purplepeep:
Junior will be up any minute now wanting a mouth-full-o-breast anyway. That means I’ll be up getting some drinks or snacks for the wife, that is, if I want my own mouth-full-o-breast later.
So, I won’t be bringing this to 800+ comments tonight either.
I bet you could, ZA. I’ve never dabbled in gaming at all. Except for John Madden 90′s Nintendo Football. Now, that I’d whup you at at! (If I hadn’t sold my set some many years back)
“Playmaker Football” is good, tho. I’ve got winning that pretty much mastered. Other than that I’m lost in the whole gaming thing – lo, even the long time I’ve been PCing & online.
Oh, so you are fond of conservatives
Good. Us right wing holy folks that are the bane of your Republican party have stuff to talk about.
Do you know why ‘junior’ takes to the breast? Is this something that you had to show him how to do shortly after birth?
He was born with the instinct as designed by his Creator.
jangar:
Evolution bro… evolution. Besides what kind of piss poor engineer puts a waste treatment facility right next door to a recreation / procreation center?
just for you?
You’re a lost cause.
Ergonomics
jangar:
Does that mean the kind and benevolent creator of the universe will toss me into a lake of fire to burn and suffer for eternity, presumably as my loved ones that are believers look on, helpless?
I mean really, we were having all kinds of fun talking about boobies and you have to come in here and spoil the fun. I’ll bet you’d even say people aren’t even allowed to touch boobies until after marriage!
Mighty awkward if you’re a young lady…
Rags:
Especially if you either:
A) Want your boobies touched and everyone in your community is afraid to do so for fear of suffering unspeakable horrors for all eternity.
or
B) You want to touch other young ladies’ boobies and you are afraid to do so for fear of suffering unspeakable horrors for all eternity.
The whole “unspeakable horrors for all eternity” is just a really bad selling point for this whole thing.
Gosh. I was thinking about bathing…
Nothing……pisses me off more….than ARROGANT hacks…trying to strong-arm someone such as Michelle against reporting something.
Particularly Michelle. Considering her record.
NOTHING!
Michelle, to me, is often equal to a soldier in uniform beside me because she is covering my flank.
Having served many years in the military and having a healthy understanding of our Constitutional rights including the one about Freedom of Speech, this smarmy little piss ant does not have a clue about what Freedom of Speech or Freedom of the Press means. Not a damn thing.
Rick? Ricky boy? Michelle has more time cleaning the printing ink off her fingers than you have as some “journalist”. Oh, and those who have to tout their time in grade like you did? Usually do so to cover your own inadequacies.
Answer the question you sniveling little simp.
The planet cannot support an infinite number of people, and if people won’t willingly do their part to stabilize the population what other choice is there?
If you concede the number that can be supported is not infinite, you must therefore concede that it may already be above the sustainable level.
I don’t support eugenics, but limiting everyone to two children seems reasnonable.
So I guess we “pulsating mass of maggots” must have our lives managed-or even terminated-for the good of the Whole-or Whole Earth-whatever. Sounds rather Green but Libertarian seems contraindicated here.
But “pulsating mass of maggots” is pretty much how the Left sees the world in all their High Compassion; fits rather nicely with William Ayres twenty five million dead unrepentant capitalist. Between Cap and Trade and National healthcare they should be able to thin the mass of maggots.
Tis an Obamination it is.
WTF?
This from an avowed libertarian?
Most “libertarians” have a soft spot when it comes to using government to impose their personal belief systems.
the giveaway is greenlibertarian.
Once a person actually believes in the green movement and all it implies, it’s not too hard to fall off that tater truck into all sorts of pitfalls…like thinking that the earth and it’s bounty is not capable of supporting her humans, when the Creator of it all says “Be fruitfull and multiply”.
Man’s wisdom is ignorance.
Rags:
Oh. Mah bad, got carried away there for a minute.
greenLibertarian:
I am generally of the opinion that technology will continue to come up with new and inovative ways of making the Earth capable of supporting a greater population. Doomsday predictions WRT population control have consistantly been wrong. I’m sure it will become an issue one day, but I like to think that at that point we can just pack up and move to a terraformed Mars.
The Greenies will never allow humans to despoil another planet. I’m not kidding.
they won’t be helpless…they’ll bring hotdogs and marshmellows and have a party..as you look on!!!
evolution is the athiest’s creator, with that racist darwin(pbuh) as their holy prophet!!!
Send the greenies to Mars. The Algore can fly the spaceship. Half our problems will then be solved.
I can’t stand that weasely guy the Food Channel has on so many shows. I can’t watch Iron Chef America because of him. He may not be “sex with other men” gay, but he is gay, if that makes any sense. And he might be “sex with other men” gay.
Now, the old Japanese Iron Chef, that was a good show.
Can’t stand snooty Phrench-American Anthony Bourdain, who loves all cultures but American, but the chubby guy who eats uber-treyf food, grubs in the jungle, slime worms from Filipino mangroves, oven roasted armadillo in the shell, pig jowls, well, his show is kind of fun.
Chairman Kaga is the GURU of food!
Now that this has been bumped back up to “lead story” I am hesitant to keep this off topic but…
Are you talking about Alton Brown? Cause he rules. You watch his show and actually learn about FOOD, not learn a recipe.
chap:
By all means please do, I just deleted a scathing post I had fashioned concerning using the Bible to base public policy off of, we can come back to that later though.
I don’t watch any of these cooking shows you guys are talking about. However, when it comes to food, who likes them some Korean BBQ?
Pork bellies and short ribs rule.
Looks like zero gets his wish.
Flame war on!
Alton Brown is married with children and anybody slandering him in any such manner as you have, sir, is not fit to sniff his potholders.
As was stated earlier by chap, I don’t need Rachel Ray or Paula Deen to read a recipe to me. Alton teaches about food. How else would I know how gluten is formed, what it does, and how to minimize it to keep baked goods from being too tough? Where else can you learn how to butcher a beef tenderloin and the proper technique for ensuring crisp, flavorful fried foods all the while minimizing the amount of unhealthy oil?
Now take it back or else!
John:
I do? What did I miss? Who flamed me?
zero,
Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul has besmirched Alton Brown, so it’s on like Donkey Kong!
Actually, my attention span is kind of gone with this one, so maybe not.
John:
Yah, sadly I don’t watch the food network, but all this talk of food is making me hungry.
I had thai for lunch yesterday, extra spicy chicken red curry. I love that.
I am trying to decide what I want today. Not sure yet, but I might just end up at Taco Bell, those baja chalupas are my crack cocaine.
What the heck happened? It went from drink to food. I hate a conversation about cooking, cooking shows or food. Then it went back to bosoms. I was interested again. Then back to food/chefs. BO-RING.
New topic…granny underpants, or something skimpier?
spaceycakes:
Ummm none? Personally, I think the world would be a much better place if we all ran around in loin cloths and smoked weed, but then, likely nothing would get done.
Boobies. I just like sayin’ it.
Really. That’s like asking Helen Thomas or Sarah Palin.
John:
Gee! False dichotomy much? Besides, asking them to what? Sleep with? Prostitute themselves in front of a camera?
John Deaux–really? mrspaceycakes likes both at different times.
There is no right or wrong answer.
I’ll bet Mrs. Palin wears long underwear with panache. That is what is lacking in Ms. Thomas’ case.
I don’t have kids or nieces or nephews so I’m not up on the video game stuff.
Now, if it had been Air Guitar…..
My sentiments exactly! Although the Good Eats guy makes things almost too scientifically, at least, his mind works that way. There’s a lot to be said for pure instinct. I’ve had food in a few upscale restaurants where I felt like I was tasting an idea, if that makes any sense.
My all-time favorite cooking show is still “The Galloping Gourmet”
The best cooks are the old women who cook in dusters and houseslippers.
Did you know there is such a thing as a “support thong”? Doesn’t that seem like an oxymoron?
Looks like everyone left.
Thought the goal was 700 comments.
Practice, practice, practice.
Hope is not a plan; not all change is good. WE are the civilian national security force! At a minimum, every American citizen, excepting those disqualified by conviction or mental disability, should own a rifle of adequate caliber to serve as a militia weapon. The resistance is here; the resistance is now! RESIST!!!!!!!!!
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