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		<title>By: Poster Boys For Health Insurance Reform: The Standup Guys For Trial Lawyers &#171; Pronk Palisades</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-794410</link>
		<dc:creator>Poster Boys For Health Insurance Reform: The Standup Guys For Trial Lawyers &#171; Pronk Palisades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ObamaCare is NOT Reform &#124; Orange Juice! Politics For The Rest Of Us.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ObamaCare is NOT Reform &#124; Orange Juice! Politics For The Rest Of Us.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seem to matter that the ObamaCare Scheme is shaping up to be a massive giveaway to Unions and Trial Lawyers. It doesn&#8217;t seem to matter that the words &#8220;government competition&#8221; are as much [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seem to matter that the ObamaCare Scheme is shaping up to be a massive giveaway to Unions and Trial Lawyers. It doesn&#8217;t seem to matter that the words &#8220;government competition&#8221; are as much [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom for the Org Chart&#8230; Chalk One Up for the GOP: ObamaCare Organizational Flow Chart Now Freed for Mailing &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom for the Org Chart&#8230; Chalk One Up for the GOP: ObamaCare Organizational Flow Chart Now Freed for Mailing &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare The Powers That Be: Obama Guarantees Provisions in a Health Care Bill He Doesn’t Know the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare The Powers That Be: Obama Guarantees Provisions in a Health Care Bill He Doesn’t Know the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Obama&#8217;s in the House: I&#8217;m Not a Doctor, but I Play One on TV (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-765986</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Obama&#8217;s in the House: I&#8217;m Not a Doctor, but I Play One on TV (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare Power Line: Is this the best they can do? Burt Prelutsky, Big Hollywood: A Health Care Plan on Life [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare Power Line: Is this the best they can do? Burt Prelutsky, Big Hollywood: A Health Care Plan on Life [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan Democrat Leader John Conyers: &#8220;Why Bother Reading the Health Care Bill?&#8221; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan Democrat Leader John Conyers: &#8220;Why Bother Reading the Health Care Bill?&#8221; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare and Ghoulish science + Obamacare = health hazard and Calling her what she is Family Security [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Obama Health-Care Plan Destroys Cheap Health-Care Options, Raises Taxes, Breaks Promises&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-756069</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Health-Care Plan Destroys Cheap Health-Care Options, Raises Taxes, Breaks Promises&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] drugs). Liberal lawmakers are seeking to make Obama&#8217;s plan even worse and more costly by turning it into a &#8220;trial lawyer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is Obama incapable of telling the truth on government healthcare? : Stop The ACLU</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-754425</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Obama incapable of telling the truth on government healthcare? : Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] insurance.&#8221; He KNOWS that this will extend the power and reach of the federal government and trial lawyers in ways we can&#8217;t fathom while all this is still [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;War on Senior Citizens&#8221;: Mark Levin Interviews Dr. Betsy McCaughey on ObamaCare Details &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-752974</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;War on Senior Citizens&#8221;: Mark Levin Interviews Dr. Betsy McCaughey on ObamaCare Details &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare The Powers That Be: Obama Guarantees Provisions in a Health Care Bill He Doesn’t Know the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Many of 44 people Arrested in New Jersey Corruption Probe &#171; Goodtimepolitics</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-752573</link>
		<dc:creator>Many of 44 people Arrested in New Jersey Corruption Probe &#171; Goodtimepolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NYT: Senate Won&#8217;t Vote on Health Care &#8220;Obama&#8217;s Waterloo&#8221; Before Summer Break&#8230; Woo hoo! &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-752201</link>
		<dc:creator>NYT: Senate Won&#8217;t Vote on Health Care &#8220;Obama&#8217;s Waterloo&#8221; Before Summer Break&#8230; Woo hoo! &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare The Powers That Be: Obama Guarantees Provisions in a Health Care Bill He Doesn’t Know the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stop That Chart! The Republican Single-Payer Health Care Flow Chart That Has Democrats in an Uproar &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/22/exposed-a-trial-lawyers-pay-off-in-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-752153</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop That Chart! The Republican Single-Payer Health Care Flow Chart That Has Democrats in an Uproar &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health care and spending more money… and Not about you, huh? and The fear-mongerer-in-chief and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare Google News, AP: DeMint refuses to take back &#8216;Waterloo&#8217; statement Stop The ACLU: Obama [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Black Sphere&#8221; Anti-ObamaCare Site Hacked and Attacked by Statist Thugs &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Black Sphere&#8221; Anti-ObamaCare Site Hacked and Attacked by Statist Thugs &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] coverage and The more he talks about nationalizing health care and spending more money… and Exposed: A trial lawyers’ pay-off in Obamacare John Boehner: Republican Chart Outlines House Democrats’ Government Takeover of Health Care [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragspierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    &lt;strong&gt;Gov. Bill Ritter turned down a $75-an-hour offer from the Colorado attorney general’s office to handle legal matters regarding the disbursement of federal stimulus funds, instead hiring his former law partners for up to six times that cost&lt;/strong&gt;. . . .

    Ritter hired Hogan &amp; Hartson through a &lt;strong&gt;no-bid contract&lt;/strong&gt;. So far, the firm has been paid $40,000 from federal funds. . . .

    Myung Oak Kim, spokeswoman for the governor’s economic-recovery team, said Hogan &amp; Hartson was the right firm for the job. 

Denver Post&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OT, but certainly related...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    <strong>Gov. Bill Ritter turned down a $75-an-hour offer from the Colorado attorney general’s office to handle legal matters regarding the disbursement of federal stimulus funds, instead hiring his former law partners for up to six times that cost</strong>. . . .</p>
<p>    Ritter hired Hogan &amp; Hartson through a <strong>no-bid contract</strong>. So far, the firm has been paid $40,000 from federal funds. . . .</p>
<p>    Myung Oak Kim, spokeswoman for the governor’s economic-recovery team, said Hogan &amp; Hartson was the right firm for the job. </p>
<p>Denver Post</p></blockquote>
<p>OT, but certainly related&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few simple rules about lawyers and lawsuits fix the problem
1) loser pays winners expenses and amount of suit.
2) losing lawyer pays winning lawyers fees and expenses.
3) any suit thrown out by court is deemed a loser, hence must pay.
4) no class action lawsuits.  if a person doesn&#039;t have a claim worth pursuing, the court is the wrong venue to modify behavior.  the police are the venue to stop inappropriate behavior.
5) no pain and suffering damages over a set amount, no triple damages for intentional torts, seek criminal redress, no damage awards for death greater than the present value of the average american&#039;s wages over their expected lifespan, unless documented that they are presently earning high wages.

these rule changes would bring sanity and efficiency back into the courts. we have some bitty in alaska with a bone up her butt about sarah palin filing suit after suit for ethics violations, because it costs her the price of the paper and filing, while it costs palin and alaska a fortune to defend.  this is criminal behavior, and needs to be stopped.  making this person pony up the thousands that palin&#039;s lawyers are charging would probably stop this nonsense immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few simple rules about lawyers and lawsuits fix the problem<br />
1) loser pays winners expenses and amount of suit.<br />
2) losing lawyer pays winning lawyers fees and expenses.<br />
3) any suit thrown out by court is deemed a loser, hence must pay.<br />
4) no class action lawsuits.  if a person doesn&#8217;t have a claim worth pursuing, the court is the wrong venue to modify behavior.  the police are the venue to stop inappropriate behavior.<br />
5) no pain and suffering damages over a set amount, no triple damages for intentional torts, seek criminal redress, no damage awards for death greater than the present value of the average american&#8217;s wages over their expected lifespan, unless documented that they are presently earning high wages.</p>
<p>these rule changes would bring sanity and efficiency back into the courts. we have some bitty in alaska with a bone up her butt about sarah palin filing suit after suit for ethics violations, because it costs her the price of the paper and filing, while it costs palin and alaska a fortune to defend.  this is criminal behavior, and needs to be stopped.  making this person pony up the thousands that palin&#8217;s lawyers are charging would probably stop this nonsense immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Qui tams have to be expressly authorized by statute. And this is a different type of claim than those covered under the Fraud Act.  This is to recover funds expended by Medicare to pay for health care that was necessitated by a defendant.  Like, for example, someone on Medicare gets hit by a car and breaks their leg.  Medicare pays and then can go after either the plaintiff to recover a portion of whatever money the plainitiff get from the defendant via settlement or judgment, or go after the defendant directly.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Could not qui tam lawsuits be considered as government-sanctioned vigilantism…or, perhaps, an activity not too dissimilar from bounty hunting?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.  It is essentially the same thing as bounty hunting.  Which have good arguments for and against.  I&#039;ve no issue with someone having a philosophical argument against these types of suits, but there are some tangible benefits to the taxpayer as well that should be weighed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qui tams have to be expressly authorized by statute. And this is a different type of claim than those covered under the Fraud Act.  This is to recover funds expended by Medicare to pay for health care that was necessitated by a defendant.  Like, for example, someone on Medicare gets hit by a car and breaks their leg.  Medicare pays and then can go after either the plaintiff to recover a portion of whatever money the plainitiff get from the defendant via settlement or judgment, or go after the defendant directly.</p>
<blockquote><p>Could not qui tam lawsuits be considered as government-sanctioned vigilantism…or, perhaps, an activity not too dissimilar from bounty hunting?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  It is essentially the same thing as bounty hunting.  Which have good arguments for and against.  I&#8217;ve no issue with someone having a philosophical argument against these types of suits, but there are some tangible benefits to the taxpayer as well that should be weighed.</p>
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