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1. #1
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:23 pm, ajmontana said:

   I heard ACORN was going to change their name to GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE. :SHOCK:

2. #2
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm, simcoe said:

   What’s the most obvious contrast between the pro-freedomers and the entitlementers?

   Second most obvious would be the “I want to work for mine” vs. the “you owe me reparations, I don’t have to get a job.”

3. #3
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:39 pm, Member-VRWC said:

   ACORN is just a mob of bullies. All talk, no walk.

   The antics of Obama are awakening the slumbering giant (the patriots). When we get our “A” game rolling, there’s no force in the world that can stop us.

   It’s high time to exterminate the leeches who feel entitled to a free lunch on the back of someone else’s effort.

4. #4
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:48 pm, Truesoldier said:

   Let me guess, there is nothing in the ACORN manual on how to deal with someone who will not bow down to race baiting tactics….

5. #5
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm, d1carter said:

   I sure hope the cops don’t arrest anyone for disorderly conduct…

6. #6
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pm, simcoe said:

   MSNBC:

   Did racial ‘teachable moment’ pass us by?
   Some fear the public debate over a Harvard professor’s arrest will be just talk, with little progress.

   As the years pass I’ve come to believe more and more that one side, more than the other, really wants progress. If there is ever real progress that would put an awful lot of people who depend on racism out of work.

   When the conversation over the beer at the White House becomes public knowledge, lets watch to see who uses the more racist language and terms and who has the more peaceable spirit.

7. #7
   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:57 pm, sgtmack said:

   On July 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm, d1carter said:

   I sure hope the cops don’t arrest anyone for disorderly conduct…

   I hope they do. Maybe then the peaceful protesters will be left alone to protest.

8. #8
   On July 26th, 2009 at 12:01 am, d1carter said:

   That was tongue in cheek on #5

9. #9
   On July 26th, 2009 at 12:34 am, teachem2 said:

   They are like children who don’t get their way. The only difference is that their tantrums involve trying to intimidate those with a differing opinion.

10. #10
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:43 am, Zelsdorf Ragshaft III said:

    Looks to me like the guy from ACORN was looking for someone to box with. Someone should have obliged him. Always kick out the knee first. That actually looked like an assault. There was no battery, but it certainly was an assault. Identify and arrest.

11. #11
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:57 am, Rob Roy said:

    I had a teachable moment the other day…I just can’t remember what it was.

12. #12
    On July 26th, 2009 at 1:08 am, thefoundingfathers said:

    The socialists can only yell insults that insult our intellegence, because they don’t have fact or common sense on their side. Their goal is deception. It is easy to deceive when you have dumbed down a large portion of the population through a completely disfunctional public education system.

13. #13
    On July 26th, 2009 at 1:10 am, thefoundingfathers said:

    A
    C ongregation
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    N incompoops

14. #14
    On July 26th, 2009 at 1:37 am, d1carter said:

    The lady in this video was very impressive. She was informed, intelligent and in charge.

15. #15
    On July 26th, 2009 at 2:41 am, Hangfire said:

    I love seeing the living, breathing proof that you do not have to be a left-wing, pinko, birkenstock wearing, volvo driving, Acorn robot in order to peacefully protest.

    Since the 60′s, the left has held the right to peaceably assemble as T H E I R right only.

16. #16
    On July 26th, 2009 at 6:15 am, William said:

    First: Don’t the kill babies (Induced Abortion) advocates scream “My body, my choice!!!!”

    I suppose “Freedom of Choice” only applies to induced abortion and abortifacients, but not to freedom in health care choice.

    Second: How much more unwise can people appear to be than when they support something they are completely misinformed, or uninformed about, especially when they have not even read information about it, but just blindly support it, as in the current “Health Care” legislation?

17. #17
    On July 26th, 2009 at 7:31 am, Sidana said:

    You know what? I have had it with the attitude that because one some in America owned slaves, we “owe” them -those that have never been slaves-something. There was blood spilled in this country for that cause, and it wasn’t any half-a** acorn blood. It was the blood of white brother against white brother, and it was a huge split in this nation.

    They need to seriously get over themselves. We have already paid in blood.

18. #18
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:00 am, jangar said:

    They need to seriously get over themselves. We have already paid in blood.

    A civil war was not enough for them. Too many generations have been brainwashed, primarily by politicians seeking votes and also by schools with an agenda to change the culture.

    This will not end until the community of minorities decide that they have had enough of the abuse from those who use them to perpetuate racism for political expediency.

19. #19
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am, Socky said:

    This is a little off-topic, and I really shouldn’t be writing this, but my 18 year old son has found that racism is a big turn-on to liberal college girls. Not hardcore, skinhead stuff, but he affects an attitude toward race like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino and the left-liberal college girls eat it up like sweet, sweet candy.

    And the liberal, sensitive new age guys stand on the sidelines, practicing their lines about hope and change, and wondering why the girls “just want to be friends” with them.

20. #20
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:14 am, docflash said:

    ACORN,”Keeping people on the plantation for 30 years.”

21. #21
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:48 am, Flyoverman said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:14 am, docflash said:

    ACORN,”Keeping people on the plantation for 30 years.”

    You raise a serious point with your glib comment.

    The Jews as a group will never allow themselves to ever be put into a position where a Holocaust could ever occur.

    Why would U.S. blacks, of all people, ever willingly want to exchange their freedom for the security delivered by someone who would be their quasi-master? If there was ever a group that should have a Libertarian mindset, you would logically think it would be blacks.

    I would love to sit down with some ACORN people, seriously, and ask them, why?

22. #22
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:56 am, Boomer said:

    The profound racism of the entitlement class is being displayed for all to see. It is also disturbing to see ‘dear leader’ shooting his mouth off showing the entire world that he is still just a community organizer and deeply unqualified for his current position. If these fools want a race war to begin they are really going all out to provoke one, which I fear would give ‘dear leader’ his next crisis to completely take away all personal freedoms in this country.

    As my studies of the ‘death care bill’ have shown me this is not about healthcare it is all about control. Keep your powder dry folks things are only going to get worse as the failed Democrat policies continue to throw more and more Americans willing to work into the unemployment line and dependent on the Government teat. If this fascist bill does pass in the House next week it will be interesting to see how the heat of August and angry mobs of constituents deal with the lying bastards in our Government should they be foolish enough to go out in public.

23. #23
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am, Lindsay said:

    Without the real or imagined threat of racism, ACORN, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton would be part of the growing percentage of the unemployed.
    Their job is to fan the flame of racism for the last 30 years, and to beat the drum for black discrimination and disenfranchisement.

    Ironically, the only report I have read of voter intimidation last November was by the Black Panthers in Philadelphia scaring off little old white ladies.

24. #24
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:09 am, radio relay said:

    You see there is method in their madness!

    the formula is:

    1. Have a prominent black man get arrested.

    2. Have the president back up support the prominent black man in his charge that the police targeted him for being black.

    3. This causes controversy and makes police reluctant to stop other black men from intimidating those in opposition to the head black man … Obama.

    4. The democrats and the left can then get away with violent intimidation of peaceful opposition from the right!

    Brown Shirts, anyone?

25. #25
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:12 am, Disciplined said:

    ACORN gets a mention in the House version of the health care bill. A link to the actual bill and an audio clip with Betsy McCaughey, PhD on the Fred Thompson show is a must listen to interview.

    Government Health Care Bill: It Is All About Rationing

26. #26
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am, Misscheryl said:

    Sitting on a bridge in New Orleans for 3 days waiting on city buses tells me it’s a greater issue than just “convincing” a race of people they have depended on the wrong group for the protection of their freedom and rights. I think it’s too late. These people have been enabled to act like society’s spoiled brats – they cry about what they deserve and what they want and we throw stuff at them so they’ll keep quiet. They keep society hostage while they dictate which “words” we can use and how we should “act” around them. Get over yourselves and live your lives and quite trying to control every other race in America for crying out loud. Ask them what dollar figure they want to shut them up once and for all. You think that will work? Nope, it’s not the money, it’s the mind set. For the record, I am fine with any race of people as long as they are.

27. #27
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am, rplatt said:

    Don’t give an each to this bums . . . we have as much right on the streets as they do and we should never yield. if they want a fight . . . give it to them. They’re nothing more than domestic terrorists and they need to be totally and thoroughly defeated.

28. #28
    On July 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am, maroonedinmarin said:

    I ran into a group of the Organizing for America Obamabots at a shopping center in Reston, VA yesterday afternoon.

    http://maroonedinmarin.blogspot.com/2009/07/organizing-for-america-obamabots-pimp.html

29. #29
    On July 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am, beenthere said:

    Ever since Obama’s A.G. (and Obama himself) gave the green light to racial intimidation of whites at the polling booth, I’ve expected an increase of incidents of “race muscle.” This particular incident may have been a “victory” for the good guys (I’m skeptical on that, but whatever) but ACORN and the NBPP and their ilk (the Black Klan if you will) will be back again and again. There is no downside for them. Cops won’t arrest them, courts won’t convict them, the “justice” department has no interest — and if you fight back, you are instigating racial violence and you will be the one arrested and convicted and serve time.

    Tea Party activists need to think hard about how they are going to deal with this. I mean, what part of “Ruled by a Black Man” don’t they understand? Or maybe we should all just wait for the wonderful conservative bluedogs to save us?

30. #30
    On July 26th, 2009 at 11:49 am, Ragspierre said:

    What a cool contrast.

    Excellent work by the good guys.

    Perfect role-playing by the bad guys.

    That could hardly have been more illuminating.

31. #31
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, greenfairie said:

    maroonedinmarin, that was my old haunt! Is it still really hard to find parking there on a Saturday?

32. #32
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Bruce said:

    A few points:

    That actually looked like an assault. There was no battery, but it certainly was an assault. Identify and arrest.

    1- The law in NY makes no such distinction like in some other states. An “assault” here is the actual event that causes injury. There is no “battery” statute here.

    2- Ever notice how these thugs always go after women? What does that tell us about these clowns on the left – these “tough guys” who go into their “gangsta” act but don’t have the cohones to back it up?

    3- Where exactly were the Suffolk County cops during this? I was a cop for 25 years, and I can’t think of a single demonstration that ever took place without having a detail of cops assigned to preserve the peace? The Tea Party people were peacefully exercising their Constitutional right of assembly and protest. Why were these thugs allowed to enter the perimeter given to the organizers of the Tea Party? And why didn’t a few of the men involved get in their faces? Why does our side always back away from these cretins?

33. #33
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, Ragspierre said:

    1- The law in NY makes no such distinction like in some other states. An “assault” here is the actual event that causes injury. There is no “battery” statute here.

    Bruce, does a NY assault have to actually produce an injury? Most criminal assault include any act that puts a person in reasonable fear of imminent harm or death.

    There is also civil assault, which requires no contact in most jurisdictions with which I am familiar.

34. #34
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:35 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    You know they are getting desperate when they pull out the trump card “racism!”. Fighting for border control is racist. Defending the best health care system in the world is racist. Fighting for fiscal responsibility is racist.

    We sure elected a brilliant intellectual in 2008. No wonder Obama argued that “we can do more than one thing at once”, he only has one argument for everything: “Racism!!!”.

35. #35
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:43 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Obama appointing Rev. Wright as race relations Czar in 3..2..1…

36. #36
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:50 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    That Obama got elected in the first place should have eased racial tensions but it seems to have exacerbated them among blacks. Why are they angrier than ever? Shouldn’t they be celebrating? Shouldn’t they now be joining the rest of us in understanding that although life is tough and unfair, it is tough and unfair for all of us. That’s life. Grow up already! Try reasoning instead of whining.

37. #37
    On July 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, revGDright said:

    Interesting choice of Midnight Oil’s “Blue Sky Mine”, a song about Australian asbestos workers, for a video that is anti-progressive left.

38. #38
    On July 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm, jrgdds said:

    Today is the first day that Rasmussen has Obama’s Presidential Approval Index is a double digit negative at -11. And Fifty percent (50%) disapprove of the way he is performing his job. These are the first poll numbers based entirely upon interviews conducted after the President’s prime time televised press conference. Voters in this country elected a Black man as our leader. If this is not a repudiation of white racism theories, I don’t know what is. The more the public hears and sees of ACORN, Professor Gates, and that ilk crying racism, the lower Obama’s numbers are going to go. It will not take too much more of the tripe seen in this video to send Obama back to Chicago in 2012. Obama’s failed economic policies will not end his rule. Too many people want to ride the gravy train, but his supporting unsubstantiated accusations of racial bias will be his end as president.

39. #39
    On July 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, rambler said:

    Why aren’t the celebrating?

    Because BHO was supposed to solve all their problems, transform their lives and give them a privileged lifestyle. What they see is that people who work for a living are not willing to support those who don’t and we’re blocking BHO’s grand plan.

40. #40
    On July 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm, Wade said:

    1- The law in NY makes no such distinction like in some other states. An “assault” here is the actual event that causes injury. There is no “battery” statute here.
    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Bruce said:
    A few points:

    #32, can you please send a link to where that information came from?

41. #41
    On July 26th, 2009 at 2:51 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    We, the Citizens of our states and the Republic, are a generation behind dealing with the ACORN, Black Panthers, MS-13 and other such parasites on the body politic.

    For several years after the Manson Family murder spree the counter culture “flower people” such Weatherundground Bernadine Dorhn would salute with three fingers in the air–a testament of solidarity because one of the Manson followers stuck a fork in Sharon Tate’s stomach after they killed her. Manson killed the rich and thus to Obama’s friends William Ayres/Bernadine Dorhn justified. That my fellow Citizens of the Republic is with whom we are dealing.

    If murder does not bother these Obaminations a little election fraud and intimidation does not even register.

    Damn Rebels, lay down your arms!
    No.

42. #42
    On July 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm, prendad said:

    They will start passing out the brown shirts and armbands pretty soon now. Heir Obama would be pleased.

43. #43
    On July 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, maroonedinmarin said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, greenfairie said:
    maroonedinmarin, that was my old haunt! Is it still really hard to find parking there on a Saturday?

    I haven’t had many problems finding parking there, except when it’s around Christmas.

44. #44
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    #40

    Ditto.

    I’m not an attorney but I believe that assault vs battery were separate offenses in all states. Assault is a violent act that causes another person to fear. Battery is a violent act of unpermitted touching that can cause mental or physical harm.

    I could be wrong but I don’t believe that battery is required in any state to prosecute for assault. They are two distinctly separate crimes.

45. #45
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    To finish my comment #44, it is my understanding that the Tea Party protesters in the video were assaulted. They show no visible signs of fear and suffered no physical harm.

    They would need to prove that they were caused to fear which then resulted in either mental anguish or physical harm from stumbling, for instance while recoiling or running away in order to have a case. There is no doubt from the video that they were assaulted, but did they suffer harm?

46. #46
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, Ragspierre said:

    ARTICLE 120
    ASSAULT AND RELATED OFFENSES

    S 120.00 Assault in the third degree.
    A person is guilty of assault in the third degree when:
    1. With intent to cause physical injury to another person, he causes
    such injury to such person or to a third person; or
    2. He recklessly causes physical injury to another person; or
    3. With criminal negligence, he causes physical injury to another
    person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument.
    Assault in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.

    Bruce appears to be correct.

47. #47
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I believe Bruce said he was a police officer for 25 years.

48. #48
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    So correct me if I am wrong, in NY the crime of battery is incorporated into assault by establishing different degrees of injury? So 3rd degree assault is what other states define as battery?

49. #49
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, 24Klady said:

    Can’t wait for a repeat of this when ACORN gets in the face of an elderly person while doing the census next year. What if the resident doesn’t want to answer the door or refuses to answer the questions of some guy behaving like a thug?

50. #50
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    This is typical of the Liberal mindset–appear supposedly for the purpose of giving the people information about something, but then only show up with petitions and mindless rhetoric about how “we need to change health care.”

    Then when people actually show up WITH INFORMATION, they get the typical rants and hate from the liberal side. Radical liberalism has NOTHING on their side besides hate and lies. We’ve got the truth.

51. #51
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, Wade said:

    46 that is nice however where is that from and how about the other degrees of assault. There are plenty of assault AND battery cases in NY. Bruce claims there is no battery in NY, only assault.I know in some states there is law of intent.
    Here is one definition of assault, although not a law: Merriam – Webster
    

    a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension of such harm or contact

52. #52
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    There were reportedly 10 times as many pro-freedom troops as there were entitlement mobsters.

    That’s because pro-freedom people have a stake in our country and the direction it goes. Entitlement mobsters don’t. They don’t have a stake in anything, other than spreading as much misery and hate throughout society as they can.

53. #53
    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:57 pm, Roland said:

    No crime without actual contact?

    If I am a skilled swordsman, and I ‘play’ with someone with whom I’ve been having a disagreement, pointing out to my victim as I swish my sword passed his ears that I could take off his ears and he wouldn’t even know it until he felt the blood, then there is no crime?

    If that is so, the law is clearly an ass.

    The same kind of thing can be done with your fists. The illustration is just less dramatic, but the intended effect on the victim can be the same.

    If there are no laws restricting our ability to physically intimidate each other at some degree of reasonably perceived threat, then the thugs rule.

    This is perhaps the reason the Obamaorcs are now working to eliminate ‘disorderly conduct’ laws.

54. #54
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, Ragspierre said:

    So correct me if I am wrong, in NY the crime of battery is incorporated into assault by establishing different degrees of injury? So 3rd degree assault is what other states define as battery?

    OK, by invitation, I am correcting you.

    Assault (criminal) in a given jurisdiction is defined by statute. In New York, for whatever reason, the legislature has provided a definition that is MUCH less expansive than it is in most states (and certainly Texas).

    And, no, the degrees of assault all contemplate some physical injury. In that, they are more consistent with “battery” in other states.

    I don’t care to keep researching this, but I’m curious about their exception for self defense. In a lot of states, you are required to flee an attacker. Not in Texas. You have a right to turn and defend.

    It is, after all, New York….

55. #55
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, Ragspierre said:

    If that is so, the law is clearly an ass.

    Very often. It would break your heart if you knew the extent…

56. #56
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, Wade said:

    Here is link to NY assault and related. Seems NY law of menacing and is only a verbiage difference from assault.
    It does appear there is no NY State law form battery, so cases of assault and battery within the state must be coming from city law.

57. #57
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, atheling said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:48 am, Flyoverman said:

    The Jews as a group will never allow themselves to ever be put into a position where a Holocaust could ever occur.

    You’re kidding, right? Tell that to the 70%+ Jews who voted for Obama and his anti Israel policy. They’re just as stupid as the blacks who stay on the Donk plantation.

58. #58
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:18 pm, Ragspierre said:

    S 120.15 Menacing in the third degree.
    A person is guilty of menacing in the third degree when, by physical
    menace, he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another
    person in fear of death, imminent serious physical injury or physical
    injury.
    Menacing in the third degree is a class B misdemeanor.

    OK, a nomenclature difference…New York isn’t as screwed up as a reading of their assault law alone would indicate.

59. #59
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:20 pm, Ragspierre said:

    You’re kidding, right? Tell that to the 70%+ Jews who voted for Obama and his anti Israel policy. They’re just as stupid as the blacks who stay on the Donk plantation.

    Sorta makes you wonder, don’t it…

60. #60
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Ragspierre said:

    “It’s routine for OMB and CBO to have scoring differences. It’s also routine for the two agencies to separately acknowledge, explain and quantify them. What’s not routine is for each to overtly criticize the other. This is a bad road to go down in any case, but even more so because OMB probably has the glass house here. Institutionally, they’re just different; CBO is purely a referee, while OMB is part referee, part player because they’re part of the President’s policy development team. Moreover, OMB’s February budget presentation attracted a lot of justified criticism for its economic assumptions and for moving various deficit-expanding policies into the budget baseline. Furthermore, most of the claims about long-term cost savings from health care reform have been purely speculative, with no data from the actuaries to back them up. Still, I don’t expect CBO to hit back and to criticize OMB scoring, nor should they. Hopefully folks will walk back and cooler heads will prevail.”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/26/the-omb-cbo-throwdown/

    THE ONE is politicizing EVERYTHING, and the CBO’s arm isn’t staying twisted, as expected.

    GOOD! Keep it up CBO.

    Something we have to understand here; the Collective isn’t one organ or another. It is the Collective. ACORN is the OMB is the DOJ is the Congressional majority (at least) is and Soros outfit is the…

61. #61
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, Ragspierre said:

    is and ANY Soros outfit is the

62. #62
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If NY requires actual physical harm before an act of aggression is considered assault, non-violent assault MUST be covered under another statute. I have personally SEEN people arrested for accosting people in public in NYC. It is probably covered under public nuisance or disturbing the peace or something.

63. #63
    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:54 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    According to ExpertLaw.com:

    In the context of criminal law, “assault and battery” are typically components of a single offense. In tort law, “assault” and “battery” are separate, with an assault being an act which creates fear of an imminent battery, and the battery being an unlawful touching. Assault and battery are intentional torts, meaning that the defendant actually intends to put the plaintiff in fear of being battered, or intends to wrongfully touch the plaintiff. The wrongful touching need not inflict physical injury, and may be indirect (such as contact through a thrown stone, or spitting). This article describes the law of assault and battery as it is commonly applied, although the law may vary in any specific jurisdiction.

    This is just the general intro but I do believe that my understanding as previously stated is correct.

64. #64
    On July 26th, 2009 at 5:57 pm, corona said:

    CSA

    no problem there …

65. #65
    On July 26th, 2009 at 6:45 pm, animules said:

    I attended my (very liberal D) U.S. Congressman’s Health Care Town Hall yesterday. Many many spoke out against the Health care bill. Many, including me, pointed out the cost of illegal’s health care and proof of citizenship should be required even today for treatment. Those in Our Country legally are a different matter, many just had concerns over the illegal’s. There were people from the states health care workers union also in attendance. According to them, as they stated from the sidelines LOUDLY, we were all racist. One was also including many loud cough covered “f-you” to speakers he disagreed with. I finally requested one of the aides speak to that person and stop the harassment. I did NOT appreciate being called a racist, my family is multi-race. I did NOT appreciate some “person” telling my 83-year old father “f-you” after my father stated his opinion.

    Pathetic the level they are maneuvering at.

    BTW, I believe the Gate’s comments that are headline right now were not a mistake. The current administration are masters of redirection of issues. While people are busy focusing on Gate’s issue, they are going to do a big push to pass the health care bill.

66. #66
    On July 26th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, jrgdds said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    This is typical of the Liberal mindset–appear supposedly for the purpose of giving the people information about something, but then only show up with petitions and mindless rhetoric about how “we need to change health care.”

    Then when people actually show up WITH INFORMATION, they get the typical rants and hate from the liberal side. Radical liberalism has NOTHING on their side besides hate and lies. We’ve got the truth.

    The definition of a racist: A conservative that is winning an argument with a liberal.

67. #67
    On July 26th, 2009 at 7:06 pm, rightisright said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm, atheling said:

    amen to that atheling, never understood how and or why these groups keep submitting to the slavery of these racists.

68. #68
    On July 26th, 2009 at 7:22 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    On July 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm, simcoe said:

    What’s the most obvious contrast between the pro-freedomers and the entitlementers?

    Second most obvious would be the “I want to work for mine” vs. the “you owe me reparations, I don’t have to get a job.”

    first of all they’d have to prove their lineage to a former slave…that in itself would be difficult at best without lying or fabricating the documentation…2nd the only ones that should be paid anything are dead and then only in the currency and wages of the time for the number of years they spent as a slave…their family members weren’t slaves and deserve nothing as they weren’t slaves.

69. #69
    On July 26th, 2009 at 7:45 pm, dadinseattle said:

    The president and others in this video show that hate is a very valuable commodity indeed. Most convenient for a president to “rub emotions raw”.

    The race peddlers (we know who they are)
    have succeeded in making hate a standard piece of the black national identity. Foreign students with dark skin tones come here and cannot begin to relate to this hatred, and most of them are horrified(from their comments I have read) that they too are expected to embrace and nurture this hate.
    Remembered racism is far more important than actual racism, and both are added together to form the black perception these days.
    Was the president being a president to all the people, or rather flashing his “black credentials”, since he never grew up in a typical black circumstance?
    Obviously it is the latter, and Obama has used that prevalent hatred by blacks to motivate his radical revolution for years as a community organizer.
    Now as president, any dissent to his policies become a rebuke to him personally, and the pawns will come to his defense no matter what! His comments at the press conference left little doubt he intends to continue to exploit them knowing full well he is doing so!

70. #70
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:16 pm, lgm said:

    There were reportedly 10 times as many pro-freedom troops as there were entitlement mobsters.

    MM, writing like this is poisoning America. People who disagree with you might not be “mobsters”. I saw the guy in the video (after the first scene with the confrontation) yelling about health care in a way that any normal person would call angry, or even unhinged.

    America, which you claim to love, is made up of Americans. A majority of them support President Obama. Maybe that’s a mistake — a majority once supported President Bush — but it doesn’t make them evil people. If you hate a majority of Americans, then you hate America herself.

71. #71
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:18 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    dadinseattle said:
    Now as president, any dissent to his policies become a rebuke to him personally, and the pawns will come to his defense no matter what!

    The very definition of the cult of personality
    
    cult of personality
     
    Use cult of personality in a Sentence
    –noun
    a cult promoting adulation of a living national leader or public figure, as one encouraged by Stalin to extend his power.
    Origin:
    ‡ 1965–70; trans. of Russ kulʾt líchnosti
    
    Supposedly originated by Stalin but Caesar as god would fit nicely as would the adulation of Hitler, Mussolini, Mao and his Little Red Book, Castro and the Emperor of Japan. That is with whom we are dealing. From such adoring masses, even if a minority, comes the justification for the camps and death squads.

    —

    I tried to find a definition for assault and battery Arizona and found very little-but I got whole pages of law firm ads for assault and battery Criminal Defense, assault and battery legal actions– the meek shall inherit the earth and the lawyers are trying to do the probate!

72. #72
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:35 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    lgm
    MM, writing like this is poisoning America.

    I thing lgm is going to sic the EPA on Michelle Malkin! I am thankful leftist don’t write hateful things such as

    -25 million unrepentant capitalist must be killed
    -every newborn white male baby must be killed before he grows up to be an imperialist racist
    -Bush-the only dope worth shooting
    -God Damn America X 3
    -Baby Killer (Viet Nam War soldiers returning home)
    -typical white person
    -Death to the pigs
    -“pulsating mass of maggots.”

    And the list goes on but Michell Malkin is poisoning America?
    —
    Damn Rebels, lay down your arms!
    No.

73. #73
    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:46 pm, atheling said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:16 pm, lgm said:

    If you hate a majority of Americans, then you hate America herself.

    Speak for yourself, traitor.

74. #74
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm, Bruce said:

    I am late getting back – life takes precedence.

    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, Wade said:

    46 that is nice however where is that from and how about the other degrees of assault. There are plenty of assault AND battery cases in NY. Bruce claims there is no battery in NY, only assault.I know in some states there is law of intent.
    Here is one definition of assault, although not a law: Merriam – Webster

    I don’t know why you refuse to just accept what I’m telling you – I was a New York City cop for 25 years, serving in many of the worst precincts in the city before retiring in 1994.

    The NYS Penal Law, section 120 and subs, covers the assault statutes. ALL degrees of assault require an injury – it is the extent of injury or the use of a weapon – that determines the degree of assault charged. There are two additional charges based on assault in section 130 and subs of the Penal Law – those that cover sexual assault.

75. #75
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:30 pm, Bruce said:

    AZ – the applicable statutes for AZ are as follows:

    13-1202 Threatening Or Intimidating

    A. A person commits threatening or intimidating if such person threatens or intimidates by word or conduct:

    1. To cause physical injury to another person or serious damage to the property of another; or

    2. To cause, or in reckless disregard to causing, serious public inconvenience including, but not limited to, evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or transportation facility; or

    3. To cause physical injury to another person or damage to the property of another in order to promote, further or assist in the interests of or to cause, induce or solicit another person to participate in a criminal street gang, a criminal syndicate or a racketeering enterprise.

    B. Threatening or intimidating pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or 2 is a class 1 misdemeanor. Threatening or intimidating pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 3 is a class 4 felony.

    13-1203 Assault

    A. A person commits assault by:

    1. Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causing any physical injury to another person; or

    2. Intentionally placing another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent physical injury; or

    3. Knowingly touching another person with the intent to injure, insult or provoke such person.

    B. Assault committed intentionally or knowingly pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 is a class 1 misdemeanor. Assault committed recklessly pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 2 is a class 2 misdemeanor. Assault committed pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 3 is a class 3 misdemeanor.

    13-1204 Aggravated Assault

    A. A person commits aggravated assault if the person commits assault as defined in section 13-1203 under any of the following circumstances:

    1. If the person causes serious physical injury to another.

    2. If the person uses a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.

    3. If the person commits the assault after entering the private home of another with the intent to commit the assault.

    4. If the person is eighteen years of age or more and commits the assault upon a child the age of fifteen years or under.

    5. If the person commits the assault knowing or having reason to know that the victim is a peace officer, or a person summoned and directed by the officer while engaged in the execution of any official duties.

    6. If the person commits the assault knowing or having reason to know the victim is a teacher or other person employed by any school and the teacher or other employee is upon the grounds of a school or grounds adjacent to the school or is in any part of a building or vehicle used for school purposes, or any teacher or school nurse visiting a private home in the course of the teacher’s or nurse’s professional duties, or any teacher engaged in any authorized and organized classroom activity held on other than school grounds.

    7. If the person meets both of the following conditions:

    (a) Is imprisoned or otherwise subject to the custody of any of the following:

    (i) The state department of corrections.

    (ii) The department of juvenile corrections.

    (iii) A law enforcement agency.

    (iv) A county or city jail or an adult or juvenile detention facility of a city or county.

    (v) Any other entity that is contracting with the state department of corrections, the department of juvenile corrections, a law enforcement agency, another state, any private correctional facility, a county, a city or the federal bureau of prisons or other federal agency that has responsibility for sentenced or unsentenced prisoners.

    (b) Commits an assault knowing or having reason to know that the victim is acting in an official capacity as an employee of any of the entities prescribed by subdivision (a) of this paragraph.

    8. If the person commits the assault while the victim is bound or otherwise physically restrained or while the victim’s capacity to resist is substantially impaired.

    9. If the person commits the assault knowing or having reason to know that the victim is a fire fighter, fire investigator, fire inspector, emergency medical technician or paramedic engaged in the execution of any official duties, or a person summoned and directed by such individual while engaged in the execution of any official duties.

    10. If the person commits the assault knowing or having reason to know that the victim is a licensed health care practitioner who is certified or licensed pursuant to title 32, chapter 13, 15, 17 or 25, or a person summoned and directed by the licensed health care practitioner while engaged in the person’s professional duties. The provisions of this paragraph do not apply if the person who commits the assault is seriously mentally ill, as defined in section 36-550 or is afflicted with Alzheimer’s disease or related dementia.

    11. If the person commits assault by any means of force which causes temporary but substantial disfigurement, temporary but substantial loss or impairment of any body organ or part, or a fracture of any body part.

    B. Except pursuant to subsection C of this section, aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or 2 of this section is a class 3 felony except if the victim is under fifteen years of age in which case it is a class 2 felony punishable pursuant to section 13-604.01. Aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 11 of this section is a class 4 felony. Aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 7 of this section is a class 5 felony. Aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 of this section is a class 6 felony.

    C. Aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or 2 of this section committed on a peace officer while the officer is engaged in the execution of any official duties is a class 2 felony. Aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 11 of this section committed on a peace officer while the officer is engaged in the execution of any official duties is a class 3 felony. Aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 5 of this section resulting in any physical injury to a peace officer while the officer is engaged in the execution of any official duties is a class 5 felony.

    FYI, try THIS site for AZ legal statutes in the future.

76. #76
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm, Bruce said:

    A majority of them support President Obama.

    Where are you getting your stats from, dippy – Daily Kos? Have you followed the Rasmussen and other polls lately – the ones that CLEARLY show Zero’s rating are in the tank lately?

    No … I didn’t think so. To quote the esteemed philosopher Forrest Gump … “Stupid is as stupid does.”

77. #77
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pm, Bruce said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If NY requires actual physical harm before an act of aggression is considered assault, non-violent assault MUST be covered under another statute. I have personally SEEN people arrested for accosting people in public in NYC. It is probably covered under public nuisance or disturbing the peace or something.

    Phil – the number of statutes that could result in arrest such as you describe range from simple Harassment, to Disorderly Conduct, to Menacing – or any number of city ordinances not specified in the NYS Penal Law. It is not required that an individual be accosted or harassed to be subject to arrest. Causing public alarm in any manner – including accosting an individual or group – could trigger an arrest for Disorderly Conduct for example.

78. #78
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Bruce: so if I walk down Fifth Avenue in NYC yelling at passersby directly in their face while doing kicks that barely miss their heads, what do they call that? I have personally witnessed people getting arrested for less in NYC. So it’s not called “assault”. But you do get arrested for it don’t you? What is that violation called in NY? That’s all I’m trying to figure out.

79. #79
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:48 pm, Bruce said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 3:57 pm, Roland said:

    No crime without actual contact?

    If I am a skilled swordsman, and I ‘play’ with someone with whom I’ve been having a disagreement, pointing out to my victim as I swish my sword passed his ears that I could take off his ears and he wouldn’t even know it until he felt the blood, then there is no crime?

    By “play” you mean what, Roland? Are you holding a sword at the time? If not – a likely charge would be harassment. While the Menacing statute could be applied – I would expect an ADA would immediately drop any such charge by an officer making the arrest.

    Now if you WERE holding a sword at the time … definitely at least Menacing, with the possibility of an ADA raising the charge to Attempted Assault or even Reckless Endangerment, depending on the circumstances.

80. #80
    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:53 pm, zorro said:

    All of this is reminding me of 1968 (the summer our country burned) but the shoe is on the other foot this time. Things are red hot, one violent encounter and our country will burst into flames, again. Pray dear friends, pray hard.

81. #81
    On July 26th, 2009 at 10:01 pm, Bruce said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Bruce: so if I walk down Fifth Avenue in NYC yelling at passersby directly in their face while doing kicks that barely miss their heads, what do they call that? I have personally witnessed people getting arrested for less in NYC. So it’s not called “assault”. But you do get arrested for it don’t you? What is that violation called in NY? That’s all I’m trying to figure out.

    How much time do you have, Phil? Understand that behavior that would get you arrested in Manhattan would barely raise an eyebrow in … say … Brooklyn or the Bronx. The DA’s office in each borough pretty much views the Penal Law the way liberals view the Constitution.

    In your example I would say at the very least you would be charged with Disorderly Conduct if not Attempted Assault. An attempt at a crime as defined by statute is covered by Penal Law section 110. If it could be demonstrated that by kicking at someones head you INTENDed to inflict an injury – as opposed to simply causing alarm (which I grant you it surely would), a charge of Attempted Assault could probably be sustained. It could also result in a charge of Reckless Endangerment 2″ if it could be demonstrated that the actor was engaging in reckless conduct LIKELY to result in an injury.

    NY law is sometimes baffling even to those with many years of experience:)

82. #82
    On July 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Bruce: Thank you. I was just trying to establish that certain behaviors, regardless of what they are called, are cause for arrest.

    And I know what you’re saying about the Bronx and Brooklyn. The last time I went to Yankee Stadium, it was understood that you had only so much time, maybe an hour, to get out of the Bronx after the game. After that, the police disbanded and you would find yourself in a war zone.

83. #83
    On July 26th, 2009 at 11:43 pm, lgm said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said (#72):

    I thing lgm is going to sic the EPA on Michelle Malkin!

    She’s like Darth Vader — there’s good in her. You, not so much.

    I am thankful leftist don’t write hateful things such as

    -25 million unrepentant capitalist must be killed
    -every newborn white male baby must be killed before he grows up to be an imperialist racist

    Please remind me which leftist wrote these things.

84. #84
    On July 27th, 2009 at 12:06 am, Dimsdale said:

    On July 26th, 2009 at 8:16 pm, lgm said:

    There were reportedly 10 times as many pro-freedom troops as there were entitlement mobsters.

    MM, writing like this is poisoning America. People who disagree with you might not be “mobsters”. I saw the guy in the video (after the first scene with the confrontation) yelling about health care in a way that any normal person would call angry, or even unhinged.

    How do you reconcile that with the New Black Panther “poll watchers” and AG Holder’s unilateral and unfounded dismissal of the charges against them? Reconcile that with Obama’s reflexive and public racism in the Henry Gates affair (Gatesgate?)

    America, which you claim to love, is made up of Americans. A majority of them support President Obama. Maybe that’s a mistake — a majority once supported President Bush — but it doesn’t make them evil people. If you hate a majority of Americans, then you hate America herself.

    Judging by the current poll numbers, you might more correctly say “a slim majority of them voted for President Obama, and the majority of that support has shrunken due to the buyer’s remorse resulting from the grim realization of just exactly what Obama is about.” Information that the liberal media didn’t think we needed prior to the election.

85. #85
    On July 27th, 2009 at 12:28 am, right_on said:

    Slowly rolling into a full blown discussion about “race relations?” Let’s just keep our fingers crossed, and hope that the militant wing of ACORN doesn’t become active.

    /sarc off

    For every action, there will be an equal, and opposite re-action.

    “No justice, no peace” works both ways.

86. #86
    On July 27th, 2009 at 8:31 am, jangar said:

    yelling at passersby directly in their face while doing kicks that barely miss their heads

    Try that in my neighborhood and you’ll get to wear an orange jumpsuit every time

87. #87
    On July 27th, 2009 at 8:47 am, sonofdy said:

    MM, writing like this is poisoning America. People who disagree with you might not be “mobsters”.

    Clearly you have never been to the dailykos and huffpo. LGM you seem to think that simply showing a different point of view is hate speech.

    Please remind me which leftist wrote these things.

    Bill Ayers, obamas buddy. Well pre-election anyway.

88. #88
    On July 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am, sonofdy said:

    Let’s just keep our fingers crossed, and hope that the militant wing of ACORN doesn’t become active.

    Like these guys??

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1QiSi0_kTo

89. #89
    On July 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am, Misscheryl said:

    People who disagree with you might not be “mobsters”.

    Then why do they act like it? Notice he said “might.” Freudian me thinks. Even lgm knows if you walk and quack you probably are.

90. #90
    On July 27th, 2009 at 9:26 am, gunslingerpatriot said:

    sonofdy-
    Frightening and I see those sort of stomp marches at the U of M.

    People who disagree with you might not be “mobsters”.

    Then why do they act like it? Notice he said “might.” Freudian me thinks. Even lgm knows if you walk and quack you probably are.

    Give lgm a break,he’s the nambla-duck and he’s doing it for the children.

    GSP

91. #91
    On July 27th, 2009 at 10:02 am, James Felix said:

    Not only has no living American ever owned slaves, they are not even descended from slave owners. Most Americans today are the the product of subsequent waves of immigrants, many of whom were treated almost as badly as slaves when they first arrived.

    Likewise, the majority of American blacks aren’t descended from slaves, but from later African and Carribean immigration.

    So the reparations crowd wants to impose justice for a crime 150 years after the fact by taking money away from people who had nothing to do with committing it and giving that money to people who had nothing to do with being victims of it.

    It’s an attempt at extortion, plain and simple.

92. #92
    On July 27th, 2009 at 10:17 am, Paul Revere said:

    Obama did tell his people to get in our faces.

93. #93
    On July 27th, 2009 at 10:17 am, James Felix said:

    lgm:
    MM, writing like this is poisoning America. People who disagree with you might not be “mobsters”. I saw the guy in the video (after the first scene with the confrontation) yelling about health care in a way that any normal person would call angry, or even unhinged.

    America, which you claim to love, is made up of Americans. A majority of them support President Obama. Maybe that’s a mistake — a majority once supported President Bush — but it doesn’t make them evil people. If you hate a majority of Americans, then you hate America herself.

    I don’t know how you can type that with a straight face.

    Even if I granted your premise (which I certainly do not) how do you reconcile this post with eight years spent comparing the President to Hitler, fantasizing about he and his voters being killed and openly rooting for us to lose a war? And don’t try telling me you were protesting the policies and not the man, because Obama has continued or even expanded all the policies that got Bush labeled a Nazi.

    Newsflash for you buddy: if you’re only a patriot when the guy you voted for wins then you aren’t a patriot.

94. #94
    On July 27th, 2009 at 11:03 am, dan708 said:

    One thing seems clear to me: the Obamanites are getting nervous because they feel that this administration represents a once-in-a-lifetime chance to ram socialism up our butts, and some moderates are beginning to say, “Wait a sec…did I vote for THIS?” The Obamanation can feel their control starting to slip.

95. #95
    On July 27th, 2009 at 11:16 am, spaceycakes said:

    Wow, lgm.

    Has anyone kept a tally of how many times lgm has introduced ‘Bush’ into a thread that has nothing to do with it?

96. #96
    On July 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    Spacey-
    I tried to imput all of lgm’s bush drivel into my Texas Instruments TI-84 and that one calculation did what five college math classes(1 Pre-Algebra/2 Algebra/2 Stats)couldn’t do: It fried it faster than the speed Michael Moore hitting the buffet line at the local Golden Corral.

    GSP

97. #97
    On July 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm, spaceycakes said:

    GSP–LOL

    He must spend the biggest percentage of his day thinking of non-sequitors.