‘Racial Harmony Through Beer’ initiative kicks off Thursday

By Doug Powers  •  July 28, 2009 11:42 AM

A date and time has been set for the re-education of Officer Crowley — I mean, some meaningful dialog on race:

A White House official tells ABC News that Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley will have beers with President Obama Thursday at 6 pm ET.

“The president sees this as an opportunity to get dialogue going on an issue that’s been historically troubling,” senior adviser David Axelrod told CBS Sunday.

In this case, the dialog was the problem. Traditionally, adding alcohol to any already tense situation doesn’t work out very well, but I’m sure things will be different just as soon as Crowley settles in for a mandatory viewing of the Rodney King video.

As I wrote in my column yesterday, The Gates of Babble-On, I was disappointed that Officer Crowley accepted the invitation, because to do so is a tantamount to an admission of guilt to a charge of racism. This much is certain: Crowley isn’t being invited over to be the recipient of an apology or even to engage in “meaningful dialog” – but for an intervention, community organizer-style.

I was hoping that Crowley would only accept Obama’s offer if the president and Gates also agreed to meet with him and some of his fellow officers at the Cambridge Police Station.

In any case, maybe this meeting might at least inspire a commercial:

Bud Light presents: Real men of racial genius (♫ “Reeaaal men of racial geniuuussss …” ♫)

Today, we salute you, Mr. anti-racial profiling racial profiler guy. (♫ “Mr. Anti-Racial Profiling Racial Profiler Guy!” ♫)

Armed with knowledge of a long history of past injustice and a laundry list of “yo momma” jokes, you proudly defend yourself against the racist cop who showed up assuming you were a crook. And why? Because somehow that racist made one of your own neighbors call the cops on you. (♫ “Put that night-stick away!” ♫)

Undaunted in your quest to prove that the best way to win the long struggle to end profiling is by assuming that all white cops are racists, you demonstrate that oppression has to have been experienced to be understood. And who better understands the nightmare of minority oppression in America than a university professor who earns a high six-figure salary and has summers off?

So crack open an ice cold Bud Light, oh beacon of blind assumptions. Because ironically, even though the honkies are out to get you, you’ll always be welcome in the White House.

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  1. #1
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Gates: “Don’t give me that stank blare! I know my cacapity! (hic)

  2. #2
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Beer??! So cops only rate beer? Where’s the Waygu beef and Fwench Wine!

  3. #3
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:48 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Obama: “Yo mama so fat, the back of her neck look like a pack of franks!”

  4. #4
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am, seamusmeboy said:

    In all honesty that would make an excellent Bud Light commercial. Excellent take off! In reality though, the beer they drink will probably be symbolic. Maybe a (black and tan) a bitter old black draught smoothed out by a mellow pale ale.

  5. #5
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:52 am, RTater said:

    I doubt that Gates and Sotoero can sit quietly long enough to receive the teaching moment from Crowley.

  6. #6
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, nbarry said:

    Please, show some respect! This is a teachable moment. LOL.

  7. #7
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, Misscheryl said:

    What needs to be done is the president needs to apologize as does Gates. They can have a beer latta.

  8. #8
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Obama: “So Crowley, what color should I repaint this house?”

  9. #9
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:56 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Gates: “Beer me, beeatch!”

  10. #10
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, DBNinKY said:

    I was disappointed that Officer Crowley accepted the invitation, because to do so is a tantamount to an admission of guilt to a charge of racism.

    It does appear to lend cover to Obama’s rush to judgment statement but then again, maybe Crowley can turn it into a “teachable moment” for “meaningful dialog” gone amok.

  11. #11
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Obama: “So Crowley, what color should I HAVE YOU repaint this house?”

    fify

  12. #12
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    The only one of the bunch who will put this behind him is Crowley because Gates has already said he will add this personal episode (“It’s not about me”) of racial profiling to a PBS documentary he is producing on the subject. So much for “moving on”.

    Crowley should pull a surprise and demand that Gates apologize or follow through on his threat to sue for defamation and character assassination.

    That CNN video on Drudge showing Crowley’s fellow Cambridge police officers passionately defending him is inspiring. It shows that there ARE grownups involved in this. It shows we CAN all get along.

    Now could the cynical race peddlers just grow up and find another way to make a living?

  13. #13
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, thejim said:

    To be fair to “Jimmy the Cop”, it would be difficult to turn down an invitation to the White House under any circumstances. But don’t expect any real meaning out of it.

  14. #14
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, Misscheryl said:

    It does appear to lend cover to Obama’s rush to judgment statement but then again, maybe Crowley can turn it into a “teachable moment” for “meaningful dialog” gone amok.

    will there be cameras?

  15. #15
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, no2pcbs1 said:

    two racist affirmative action recipients having a beer with a white policeman, seems more like a shake down. and an indoctrination on the error of his ways for being white.

  16. #16
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, granite said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Crowley should pull a surprise and demand that Gates and B. Hussein Onama apologize or follow through on his threat to sue for defamation and character assassination.

    I had a similar thought.

    Maybe “Jim the Cop” will make this a “Joe the Plumber” type moment.
    Well, I can dream, can’t I?

  17. #17
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, ErinF said:

    Why the hell is Crowley agreeing to do this?

  18. #18
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Crowley should attend, be pleasant, have a beer and then sue.

  19. #19
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, happyscrapper said:

    This whole beer thing is being done stupidly. But if they are to serve beer, it will probably be Hamms Beer and cost 13 million dollars a glass.

  20. #20
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, zeroangel said:

    Repost from the monster thread:

    —————–

    Yes, I can’t see how this would go well for Crowley.

    Gates: “Well, I’m glad we could work out our differences, officer Crowley.”

    Crowley (thinking to himself) “Your mom.”

    Crowley (out loud): “Yes, it’s a pity I had to arrest you.”

    —————–

    This is so stupid and the media will make a mockery of it.

  21. #21
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Salt said:

    As I wrote in my column yesterday, The Gates of Babble-On, I was disappointed that Officer Crowley accepted the invitation, because to do so is a tantamount to an admission of guilt to a charge of racism.

    I don’t know, Doug. I think he was damned by the liberals either way. If he refused the invitation, the White House would have painted him as stubborn and unreasonable.

    So long as he sticks to his principles and does it calmly, he might come out ahead.

  22. #22
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, love2rumba said:

    The problem with officer Crowley is that he is the product of 40 years racial programming that the libs/marxists have said they wanted….and for which the libs/ marxists attempted to crucify Crowley (wrongly) for not living up to that bigoted standard anyhow.

    I too think he should say “no” to the invite. This mess is the product of Obama’s buddy Gates and Lord Obama.

    I think it has gotten unreal when they first tried to destroy the officers for responding, and are now giving the anal exam for the neighbor who called the police…they are now focusing on whether she described the prospective burglars as “black”-is this silly as he$$ or what?!

    “Racial Profiling” is the most overblown concept other than “Global Warming”…

  23. #23
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, shooter said:

    Zerobama-
    You’re an embarrassment to America.

    This is the planned distraction so the Dems can ram home an unhealthy health bill while the nation talks about how race relations hasn’t improved, at least not for some.

    What would go thru your mind if the President of the United States called you and proceeded to LIE to your face?
    To LIE to the country about you and your work force? To explode a racist black man’s actions then ask you to come over for a beer, a ‘hiding the truth -history making suds-summit black man is always right & cant be racist therefor Hopenchange will save the world’ beer.

    “mis-calibrated my words”????
    No Barry, YOU racist jerk, you meant to do this and your team even suggested you call the cop(s) stupid.
    This was planned, it just got even bigger than you had hoped.

    Watch what happens to health reform while we’re all distracted….by the end of July.

    three days-

  24. #24
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, shooter said:

    Beer summit, Thursday.

    hmmmmmmmm

    what a coincidence, thats the day before totus’s health-reform promise date.

  25. #25
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, mattsand said:

    I can see it now….. Obama’s having his rare, imported micro-brew poured into an antique crystal glass. Gates asks for the same. Crowley sits back with a bottle of Natty Light, left out of conversation once the photo opps are done. A waiter walks up to Obama and Gates: “Would anyone care for a cracker?” Obama replies: “Hey, we gave him a beer.”

  26. #26
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pm, RTater said:
  27. #27
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, animules said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Salt said:

    As I wrote in my column yesterday, The Gates of Babble-On, I was disappointed that Officer Crowley accepted the invitation, because to do so is a tantamount to an admission of guilt to a charge of racism.

    I don’t know, Doug. I think he was damned by the liberals either way. If he refused the invitation, the White House would have painted him as stubborn and unreasonable.

    So long as he sticks to his principles and does it calmly, he might come out ahead.

    I think Salt has it nailed here. My first thought was “darned, why did he accept?” I came to the same conclusion Salt did after thinking about it a while.

  28. #28
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Prez: ‘these pretzels are making me thirsty!’

    Gates: ‘Woman–Bring us some sammiches!

    Prez: (rapping) ‘it’s a one-eight-seven on a muth…oooops’

    Crowley: (mirandizes him)

  29. #29
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm, ajmontana said:

    Ha! Nice commercial Doug. 8)

  30. #30
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I don’t see this working out well for Obama. The “teachable” lesson is that white = guilty. This is so destructive to the nation’s ethos that it could become one of those many Obama moments history will cite about transcendentally historic opportunities missed. America has proven that it is ready to put race aside and elect a black president. What we are learning is that maybe we were premature. We elected a narcissistic self-absorbed child who struts like a peacock while when not blaming Bush, is blaming racism for everything. He is looking more and more like Hugo Chavez who even now blames all of his own problems on American imperialism and the CIA. Same results.

  31. #31
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm, frontierguy said:

    Michelle, rock on with the great commercial, I love those bud light ads!

    It is over guys. Crowley accepted defeat, he will come out and say something like it was an unfortunate situation and we all got out of hand. Gates will get to go back to flying under the radar with his charity scam. Obama will look like the compassionate guy he is (snicker). Way to wave the white flag Officer Crowley.

  32. #32
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, happyscrapper said:

    This whole beer thing is being done stupidly. But if they are to serve beer, it will probably be Hamms Beer and cost 13 million dollars a glass.

    Hamms at 13 million a glass will be the generic substitute for codiene if Obamacare kicks in.

  33. #33
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, frontierguy said:

    Oh man, sorry Doug…. Great commercial, two thumbs way up!!

  34. #34
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:36 pm, John424 said:

    I posted this on the other thread. Thought it was good for this one as well:

    I REALLY, REALLY hate that Crowley accepted the offer of beers at the White House.

    Especially since Gates and Obama have both already said that this would be an excellent “learning opportunity” on the subject of “racial profiling” and they hoped it would lead to a “greater understanding” of the “problem”.

    While it may or may not be true that “racial profiling” is a problem, in this context, all they are seeking to do here is convict Officer Crowley in the court of public opinion. By accepting, Crowley is giving credence to the claims espoused by Gates and Obama.

    Perhaps Officer Crowley should have countered with an offer of soft drinks at the local precinct house for a discussion of the necessity of respecting the law.

  35. #35
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm, frontierguy said:
    Michelle, rock on with the great commercial, I love those bud light ads!

    It is over guys. Crowley accepted defeat, he will come out and say something like it was an unfortunate situation and we all got out of hand. Gates will get to go back to flying under the radar with his charity scam. Obama will look like the compassionate guy he is (snicker). Way to wave the white flag Officer Crowley.

    Don’t be too hard on Officer Crowley. he is in an utenable position. Since the President of the US decided to weigh in (over his head by the way) Crowley and his family has been under intense and dangerous scrutiny. If he were to dismiss the invitation he would only endanger himself and his loved ones. It takes a strong man to eat (what is not food for most) instead of lashing out, knowing he was in the right. I’m just saying Crowley has pressures we can’t even begin to imagine, thanks to Barack sticking his nose where it didn’t belong.

  36. #36
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm, frontierguy said:

    Way to wave the white flag Officer Crowley.

    You know sports fans it’s easy to take shots at the officer. The President of the United States invited him to the White House. What would you do if you were asked, “Well you ARE going AREN’T YOU?” by the following:

    The Governor of Massechusetts
    Senator Kerry
    Senator Kennedy
    His Congressman
    The Major of Cambridge
    The Chief of Police of Cambridge
    Every Assistant Chief of Police in Cambridge
    His Police Captain
    His Sergeant

    I think you need to cut this officer a little slack.

  37. #37
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Rougue,

    Spot on!

  38. #38
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, RobM1981 said:

    I’m guessing that Gates drinks a light beer, Crowley drinks a Pale Ale, and Chauncey drinks a half and half.

    Very ecumenical…

  39. #39
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, frontierguy said:

    I get what you guys are saying. I’ll hold back, but it still stinks. It would be nice if 4 or 5 officers from the Cambridge Police Department showed up. I would have told the President, I would love to if I can bring a few of my brothers in arms as well. I would definitely try to bring the female officer who said she would never vote for Obama again. If Crowley was strong armed into accepting a beer at the White House, then it is over. No defamation lawsuit, nothing. It gets swept under the rug and liberals can go back to the white cops are all racists meme. I only hope this too will backfire on racist pimps.

  40. #40
    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, John424 said:

    I think you need to cut this officer a little slack.

    I haven’t seen anybody on this thread advocating tar and feathering Officer Crowley.

    Express disappointment for his decision to go along with the presidential dog-and-pony show, yes.

    It’s understood that the man is under scrutiny and some pressure.

    But at what point do we (or he) take a stand on principle?

    “Well, it’s ok to give on this point.” . . . “This isn’t worth dragging out.” . . . “It really isn’t that important.”

    Folks, that’s what’s gotten our country into the mess it’s in today. People in the majority have for too long now quietly acquiesced to the foolish and childish demands of the minority – simply because it was the easy thing to do, or to “make them shut up”. And look what’s happened.

    At some point you have to make a stand for what’s right.

    When will that happen? Or is it too late?

  41. #41
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pm, jbh45 said:

    BO and his crew are just a bunch of sharptonites.

  42. #42
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm, Salt said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, John424 said:

    But at what point do we (or he) take a stand on principle?

    We do not know yet how this will play out, but just because he is going does not mean he’s not standing for his principles. It could be just the opposite for all we know.

    To go there knowing how Gates acted and the comment on which the President “mis-aligned” his words takes some guts on Crowley’s, not the other way around. He likely suspects that it’ll be a 2 vs. 1 discussion.

    Let’s see what happens.

  43. #43
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, southsideironworks said:

    I dont think Crowley will be doing any of the schooling on racial dialogue.

    I for one, would have passed on the WH offer.

  44. #44
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:08 pm, rambler said:

    There’s a black, female Cambridge cop who voted for BHO and now because of the Gates thing, won’t vote for him again.

  45. #45
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, John424 said:

    Wish I could agree with you Salt, but I’m not buying it.

    I have very little doubt that it is the pressure being brought to bear from above that influenced his decision to accept this invitation . . . and that he’s going to go there, stay quiet, shake his head and say to the media afterward that it was very productive – and say little else. Then we’ll hear from Gates and Li’l bHo about how this went so far in furthering the understanding of police in the area of “racial profiling” and that they hope all other law-enforcement can learn from this “tragic situation”.

    I can’t judge Crowley for doing what he’s doing – he’s at the center of the storm and had his family and his career to think of. And I’ll be the first one to applaud him if he does go in there and stand on his principles and proclaims them loudly and publicly.

    But I do stand on what I said earlier: we’re in this mess (overall, not just in this whole Crowley/Gates affair) because people are too scared to say and stand for what’s right, afraid of making a minority group mad about something.

    At what point do the adults stand up and say “enough is enough. Just because you want something doesn’t make it right, or the best thing for everybody to have to live with.”

    More and more, I suspect that it’s just me that feels that way, though. And not just on this thread.

  46. #46
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, John424 said:

    But at what point do we (or he) take a stand on principle?

    I think that most of the populace realize Obama and Gates are wrong. This doesn’t need to be inflamed into a race war fanned by a self serving press, by Officer Crowley standing on principle. I think he is doing the right thing as best he can. We can rail all we want about the injustice of it all, but Office Crowley doesn’t have that luxury, especially with the press ready to brand him a white supremist before his beer gets warm.

  47. #47
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, Salt said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm, John424 said:

    Wish I could agree with you Salt, but I’m not buying it.

    Fair enough. I might be influenced by the CNN video that Pasadena Phil linked in #12. Crowley knows that he has a groundswell of support, so maybe we’ll see something. Maybe we won’t. Hard for me to tell.

    I can’t judge Crowley for doing what he’s doing – he’s at the center of the storm and had his family and his career to think of. And I’ll be the first one to applaud him if he does go in there and stand on his principles and proclaims them loudly and publicly.

    While I, too, hope that this is the outcome. He’ll no doubt get the Joe the Plumber treatment from the MSM if it is and he’ll need even more support.

    It seems that his fellow officers have his back.

    But I do stand on what I said earlier: we’re in this mess (overall, not just in this whole Crowley/Gates affair) because people are too scared to say and stand for what’s right, afraid of making a minority group mad about something.

    At what point do the adults stand up and say “enough is enough. Just because you want something doesn’t make it right, or the best thing for everybody to have to live with.”

    More and more, I suspect that it’s just me that feels that way, though. And not just on this thread.

    No, you’re not alone. I agree with this sentiment. I suspect many others here do as well.

  48. #48
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, scituate_tgr said:

    A simple, truthful yet elegant excuse not to accept the invitation would be:

    “Sorry Mr. President, I have to work.”

    One other question is: why Thursday? If the POTUS is scheduled to go to Martha’s Vineyard in a week or two, why couldn’t Officer Crowley just pick-up professor Gates (he knows where he lives now) and they both can drive down to Woods Hole, ferry over to MV and then have that beer.

    Round trip gas and ferry fees would cost around $90.00, at no cost to the taxpayers. Do you think there could be an ulterior motive?

  49. #49
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, John424 said:

    But at what point do we (or he) take a stand on principle?

    As a free citizen of the United States, if Barack Obama invited me to his house I would politely decline.

    If the President of the United States invites me to the White House to meet with him for ANY REASON, I will respect the position, respect the office, respect the location, and WILL NOT HESITATE FOR ONE MOMENT to accept the invitation.

    It may irritate us all to no end who is in the White House, but that office, that position, and that place deserves our respect regardless of its occupant.

    Officer Crowley continues to do the right thing at the right time for the right reasons.

    That is STANDING ON PRINCIPLE.

  50. #50
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm, scituate_tgr said:
    A simple, truthful yet elegant excuse not to accept the invitation would be:

    “Sorry Mr. President, I have to work.”

    One other question is: why Thursday? If the POTUS is scheduled to go to Martha’s Vineyard in a week or two, why couldn’t Officer Crowley just pick-up professor Gates (he knows where he lives now) and they both can drive down to Woods Hole, ferry over to MV and then have that beer.

    Then Uncle Teddy could drive them around Chappaquiddick for some sightseeing.

  51. #51
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, max said:

    One man’s beer is another’s…. malt liquor…

    ;) aw just a jokin heah!

  52. #52
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm, sonofdy said:

    It may irritate us all to no end who is in the White House, but that office, that position, and that place deserves our respect regardless of its occupant.

    Respect is earned.

    obama the dumbass has not earned it.

    My response if I were the cop would be thanks but no thanks, I have nothing to prove here and no reason to discuss anything with you two racists.

    out.

  53. #53
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, frontierguy said:

    Flyover, that may be you, but I for one have much respect for the office, but feel no obligation as a free citizen to be obliged to accept. This is not a monarchy, yet. That is exactly why the founding fathers made the executive office and we did not end up with a new King George. If Officer Crowley is ordered as part of his job, then yes, if he wants to keep his job, then he has to go. It is apparent this is social, officers are not allowed to drink on duty.

  54. #54
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, sonofdy said:

    Maybe I would go for the free beer. Lets face it, he will be the one attacked all thoughout the “drinking session”.

  55. #55
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm, John424 said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Disagree. For this simple reason: I respect the office of the President too much to lend an air of legitimacy to the person who holds said office if such person is acting against the best interests of the country and said office.

    But that’s me. And my opinion. Others including yourself, Flyoverman, may hold different opinions, and that’s fine – in fact that’s one of the great things about this country (at least for now).

    And for Salt:

    I agree with you. If Crowley does take his stand and doesn’t give in to this whole race-pimping episode, he will need all the support we can give him. And again, I’ll be among the first to applaud him and do what I can to lend that support.

    For scituate_tgr :

    I suspect the timing (as others have noted) is to try to put up a smokescreen and create a diversion in advance of a major push to get healthcare reform rammed through at the last minute.

  56. #56
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Flyoverman said:

    You know sports fans it’s easy to take shots at the officer. The President of the United States invited him to the White House. What would you do if you were asked, “Well you ARE going AREN’T YOU?” by the following:

    The Governor of Massechusetts
    Senator Kerry
    Senator Kennedy
    His Congressman
    The Major of Cambridge
    The Chief of Police of Cambridge
    Every Assistant Chief of Police in Cambridge
    His Police Captain
    His Sergeant

    With the exception of the last two… I’d tell them to mind their own business. I’ll decide whether or not to accept this invitation without any outside assistance.

    And frankly, I don’t fault Sgt. Crowley for accepting the invitation, but I would have requested that the entire meeting be in public view. None of it can be private or off the record.

    And I’d show up in uniform, say no thank you to the beer and ask for a diet coke.

    And further, when the topic of racial profiling came up, I’d simply add that it would in fact be helpful if the citizens of Cambridge would stop assuming all white cops are racists.

    Hopefully, Sgt. Crowley will stand firm and not allow Obama and his racist buddy to paint him as a racist. He needs to paint Gates as a racist. Simply because he is one.

  57. #57
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, John424 said:

    Oh, and Flyoverman, you might have missed the suggestion I had in my first comment on this thread:

    Perhaps Officer Crowley should have countered with an offer of soft drinks at the local precinct house for a discussion of the necessity of respecting the law.

    It would be a nice counter-offer, and would frame the discussion in it’s actual context, rather than the racially-tinged pretext that Obama has set up for the White House beer-fest.

  58. #58
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, pubscout said:
  59. #59
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, iamsaved said:

    Obama never apologizes for anything that he’s ever personally done or said. He only apologizes for what the United States has done.

    Those who don’t like us have sized Obama up and have found him wanting.

  60. #60
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Obama phoned Crowley, who suggested the three men sit down for a beer at the White House.

    This portion of an article on the subject over at FoxNews.com seem to suggest that the meeting over beer was Sgt. Crowley’s suggestion.

    Anyone know if that was the case?

  61. #61
    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    actually, this was also in the article.

    The president said he liked the idea, and Gates reportedly concurred when Obama phoned him next.

  62. #62
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    This beer diplomacy smells like a set-up from a mile away

  63. #63
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, BuckeyeSam said:

    Crowley’s mother was such an integral part of their last encounter–Crowley should show up with dear old mom. I’m sure she’d love to see the White House and meet a sitting president, even if he’s a POS. Can you see the White House security detail turning her away at the door because she wasn’t screened? And if she were to be admitted, she could call Gates a pinhead, and Crowley could smirk and say that it’s must be a generational thing akin to Obama’s grandmother crossing the street to avoid blacks.

  64. #64
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:21 pm, sonofdy said:

    Sgt. Crowley wears big boy pants and can make up his own mind,I am just saying what I would do.

  65. #65
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, John424 said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Appears not to be the case, at least according to WH Spokescritter David Axelrod:

    After saying the Cambridge police acted “stupidly, the president felt a responsibility to step forward and kind of cool the situation down,” Axelrod said.

  66. #66
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, zyzzyg said:

    It is unclear who suggested that they have a beer.

    Pres Obama said, “So at the end of the conversation there was a discussion about — my conversation with Sergeant Crowley, there was discussion about he and I and Professor Gates having a beer here in the White House. We don’t know if that’s scheduled yet — (laughter) — but we may put that together.”

    And Press Sec Gibbs said, “In about a five-minute conversation — I have to go back and check my notes, I think it was Sergeant Crowley’s suggestion about the beer and I think the President thought it was a good idea.”

    Not sure it matters how the ‘invite’ came about, though at a minimum, the public record tells a different story, and saying one person, or the other, proffered the suggestion of having a beer demonstrates a lack of research. And, misses the point of who solicited having a beer, which ultimatley led to the invite.

    BTW, Lucia Whalen should be there, too. She is part of this story.

  67. #67
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:34 pm, John424 said:

    After saying the Cambridge police acted “stupidly, the president felt a responsibility to step forward and kind of cool the situation down,” Axelrod said.

    And Press Sec Gibbs said, “In about a five-minute conversation — I have to go back and check my notes, I think it was Sergeant Crowley’s suggestion about the beer

    So the White House can’t even agree amongst themselves about what Li’l bHo’s role in “Beer Diplomacy” actually was.

    Just like everything else about his administration . . .

  68. #68
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm, sonofdy said:

    Respect is earned.

    Respect is a personal thing. As a soldier you know the difference. You salute the rank not the man. Same principle applies here.

    I have a flash message for everyone. I detest Barack Obama, but he is my President. I expect the same degree of respect for the office from posters like lgm and ILC when a conservative gets back into that office.

    If we are selective in our respect for the office, we are all heading down a dark path.

  69. #69
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, arromdee said:

    From what I’ve heard of this case, it does seem to me that Crowley abused his authority in arresting Gates for being an ass to him. It’s actually legal to be an ass to a police officer, but not very smart because it tends to get the officer to abuse his power and arrest you anyway.

    Gates was just abusing the race card to fight against an abuse of police power.

    So there wasn’t any racism involved, but that doesn’t mean that Crowley didn’t do anything wrong. He did; it’s just that the wrong that he did was one that countless numbers of police get away with and he was very surprised to not be able to do so.

  70. #70
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:57 pm, frontierguy said:

    I have heard so many people opine that Officer Crowley was abusing his power. Read the statutes concerning disorderly conduct. Gates’ behavior was drawing a crowd. He was warned to calm down several times. Officer Crowley was in his rights as a peace officer to arrest Gates. He had discretion I am sure, but I would have arrested Gates for his own safety. After Gates calmed down at the station, the charges were dropped, pretty typical of situations like these. There was no abuse of power here, all of the officers on the scene (including the black ones) stated that it was a righteous arrest.

  71. #71
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Maybe I would go for the free beer.

    Hey! I’m paying for these beers and I demand an apology to the Cambridge Police Force which Mr. Crowley can courier.

  72. #72
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, ChicagoRobb said:

    Career updates (in my opinion):

    Sgt. Crowley: Looks good in public’s eye, gets to meet President, possible promotion.

    Professor Gates: No loss of prestige in Academia, but looks like a fool in the public’s eye. No best seller for you.

    President Obama: Open mouth, remove foot. Makes himself look bad to the “Reagan Democrats”. If he continues mistakes like this, no chance in 2012 with ethnic whites.

    As an aside, maybe Obama can comment on more local issues. The barking dog at the end of the block, the weeds in your neighbor’s front yard, etc. He could be the local Police blotter in Chief

  73. #73
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:00 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, Flyoverman said:

    If the President of the United States invites me to the White House to meet with him for ANY REASON, I will respect the position, respect the office, respect the location, and WILL NOT HESITATE FOR ONE MOMENT to accept the invitation.

    I detest BHO, but I agree with you. It used to bother me to no end when folks disrespected Bush as President and I can’t have it both ways.

  74. #74
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, John424 said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I know I’m going to set some teeth on edge here, but I’m going to say it anyway:

    Flyoverman, you appear to be saying that if the office of President were occupied by someone who made Hitler, or Stalin or Pol Pot look like a nice guy, you’d simply salute, say “Yes Sir” and afford him the “respect” he’s due because he occupies that office.

    Sorry. I can’t go along with that. Our founders set this country up so that we the people don’t have to – and shouldn’t have to do something like that. We’re not blind sheep who live in a monarchy or a theocracy. We are a free people who aren’t obliged to kow-tow to those in office simply because they hold that office. We don’t owe blind loyalty to our chief executive. If he’s wrong, we have a duty . . . an obligation to say he’s wrong – not rubber-stamp him just because he won an election.

    Respect the office? You bet. Respect the office-holder? Never blindly. Blind respect for the office-holder gets us a “President-for-life” . . . if we’re lucky.

    We are a free people . . . at least for now.

  75. #75
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, babbledabble said:

    Well I just wish that there was some way Crowley could tell Obama & Co to POUND SAND!

  76. #76
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, JustifiedRight said:

    Sgt. Crowley, Don’t Let Obama & Gates Use You At The Beer Summit:

    http://tinyurl.com/ktgvlg

  77. #77
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, John424 said:

    BTW, Flyoverman . . .

    Seems to me that in order to respect the office, it may sometimes be necessary to NOT respect the man holding the office. After all, we’ve had two presidents impeached and one who resigned rather than face almost certain impeachment and conviction.

  78. #78
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, sonofdy said:

    I have a flash message for everyone. I detest Barack Obama, but he is my President. I expect the same degree of respect for the office from posters like lgm and ILC when a conservative gets back into that office.

    Good luck with that. Personaly I have lost alot of respect for everyone and everything inside the beltway over the last few years.Salute him just because he holds the presidency???

    Maybe in uniform. MAYBE. Outside of that he can kiss my hairy ar$e.

  79. #79
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, J S Ragman said:

    ‘Racial Harmony Through Beer’

    So which one, do you think, will get the highest score on the karaoke machine?

  80. #80
    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, nail49 said:

    So which one, do you think, will get the highest score on the karaoke machine?

    JS Ragman: If someone switches out the karaoke for a lie detector, the winner is a given! However, I am not sure the lie detector can score as high as will be necessary — it will likely overload and short out!

  81. #81
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, ScottyDog said:

    Crowley has sold out unless he comes out and asks Barry Soetoro for his birth certificate at the press conference.

  82. #82
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, John424 said:

    BTW, Flyoverman . . .

    Seems to me that in order to respect the office, it may sometimes be necessary to NOT respect the man holding the office.

    No problem there. I have no respect for Clinton or Obama, because neither respected the office to which they were elected. I loved Nixon, but when the facts came out I supported his impeachment. He disgraced his office.

    I served under a General Officer and a civilian company President who were total blithering idiots. They were utter disgraces to their office. However, it was the disparity between their conduct and the responsibility of their position of authority that made me lose my respect for them.

    So….. if the President invites you to the White House you repsect the office and go. You also treat him with respect because he is the President.

    However, if the President treats you, a citizen, in a less than respectful fashion, “The right of self-defense is never denied.”

    After all The President works for you.

  83. #83
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, John424 said:
    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, Flyoverman said:
    I know I’m going to set some teeth on edge here, but I’m going to say it anyway:

    I like to think of it as being the better man. Officer Crowley cannot possibly win anything but emnity from the black community if he was to stand on principle and decline Obama’s cheap offer. Obama has already sufficiently set back race relations with his glib remarks. Officer Crowley is once again showing remarkable restraint in the eye of a hurricane. It’s like the Japanese version of allowing someone who has slighted you, to save face, thus sparing further acrimony and possible harm. Officer Crowley wins the admiration of at least those that understand the unique predicament he finds himself in, and the savior and his academic elitist buddy of the black community, are able to save face, even though they have diminished themselves in the eyes of most thinking people.

  84. #84
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Salute him just because he holds the presidency???

    My troops LOVED to salute me in the field. They considered them sniper checks. ;)

  85. #85
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Sergeant James Crowley should slowly and rationally explain the process the police follow when receiving a “possible burglary in process” call from a citizen. That process doesn’t have anything to do with the race of the homeowner or even the race of the possible burglar.

    In my opinion, “Professor” Gates is lucky he didn’t find himself at the point of a gun hugging the nice floor in his nice Cambridge neighborhood while the police verified his identification. This has nothing to do with race; it has to do with officer safety.

    Of course, this won’t prevent ROTUS* and his buddy Gates from needling Sgt. Crowley.

    ECS

    *(Racist Of The United States)

  86. #86
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Well said, Rougue!! Well said.

  87. #87
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:12 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, arromdee said:
    From what I’ve heard of this case, it does seem to me that Crowley abused his authority in arresting Gates for being an ass to him. It’s actually legal to be an ass to a police officer, but not very smart because it tends to get the officer to abuse his power and arrest you anyway.

    Sgt. Crowley didn’t abuse his authority. In fact, he exercised remarkable restraint.

    Gates was just abusing the race card to fight against an abuse of police power.

    There was no abuse of police power.

    So there wasn’t any racism involved, but that doesn’t mean that Crowley didn’t do anything wrong.

    There was racism involved. Gates is the racist here.

    He did; it’s just that the wrong that he did was one that countless numbers of police get away with and he was very surprised to not be able to do so.

    Sgt. Crowley didn’t commit any wrongs. You just hate the police. If there had been any “racism” or “wrongs” being committed by Sgt. Crowley, don’t you think the black police officers on the scene would have said something or included it in their reports?

    ECS

  88. #88
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:15 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Thanks, that’s two attaboys from you today. I am humbled, for I find many of your posts very thoughtful and thought provoking. I strive to be more reflective and less reactive as I get older. It’s not always a succesful endeavor.

  89. #89
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Fly – one of your comments reminded me of something which happened when I was a girl. I was visiting my aunt and uncle at the Air Force base they were stationed during my senior year summer vacation. My uncle was an officer in the Air Force and I always wanted to drive his car through the gate of the base so they would have to salute me. Of course, my aunt would have none of it saying I didn’t deserve it so I was never allowed. I’m an Air Force brat and I absolutely understand the concept that the rank is saluted not necessarily the individual.

  90. #90
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    This is not about the incident any longer.

    There is no doubt that there are behind the scenes communication happening between big ear barry and his ol pal skip the bigot.

    The dance for Officer Crowley is to go there, enjoy himself and get the hell out without becoming their flunkie.

    I can see the bigot in chief and his friend the harvard bigot retelling every episode of police brutality that has ever happened and then turning to Officer Crowley and saying

    “And thats just the type of injustice Officer Crowley teaches against at the Academy, isn’t it officer crowley?”

    “would you like to say a few words about why the cambridge police academy the needed to create such a position at the academy officer crowley?”

    “Wasn’t it to combat the known historical injustice blacks and latinos have had to endure officer crowley?”

    “And that’s exactly what Professor Gates was attempting to describe”

    “But those of us who know, and have known skip for a lifetime, we know he can be little boisterous at times, but considering the history of america and the racial prejudice we all know has happened, skip just reacted as any of us would”

    “Now come on up officer crowley”

  91. #91
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    Isn’t it comforting to know our racist president thinks beer can broker a solution to conflict.

    Even Putin knows that brake fluid is the choice of discerning world leaders…

  92. #92
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, sonofdy said:

    I just killed a fly. I am clearly presidental material.

  93. #93
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:45 pm, Ron said:

    I just hope Crowley sticks up for himself. In my book, he’s being more than magnanimous in going into the WH den of thieves. I don’t fault him for accepting the invitation; I’m sure pressure was brought to bear from his superiors, from the COP, the mayor and the governor. Don’t be too hard on Crowley.

  94. #94
    On July 28th, 2009 at 4:52 pm, Speakup said:

    Two Hawvahd elites and a cop having a beer, what could go wrong?

    We should start a pool, will Gates apologize?

    Will two chairs be set higher than the third?

    Gates and Obama will talk about being down for the struggle, they’ll talk to Crowley about..his place.

  95. #95
    On July 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, MrOlympia said:

    Two racists and a white cop having a beer together. I think Michelle O should grab a wine cooler and join them. Then there would be three racists and a white cop.

    However, the drive-by media will look at it like its a racist white cop and three African Americans that are targets of racism on a daily basis. One of them the victim of this very cop!

    Questions will be asked of the racist white cop like, “So what have YOU learned from this meeting and situation. Will you act differently in the future.” In other words it will be framed by the drive-bys as if Gates was just a victim………AGAIN!

    I sure think this cough….cough…ahem….post racial President has set back race relations a long long way. I am so sick of this man. I didn’t think we could find a worse person for President than Bill Clinton, but I was terribly wrong. The ONE is far worse as a President and human being.

  96. #96
    On July 28th, 2009 at 6:04 pm, rightisright said:

    I stopped reading posts after #20, no special reason other time. Sgt. Crowley voted for Odumbo, he also teaches racial diversity classes…he is happy as a pig in crap going to be reeducated or should that be educationally updated at the WH.
    I have no sympathy for the guy, he is a liberal. Saying that, from his call to the police station while at the scene he appears to be a professional peace officer doing his job, even while being verbally attacked by a racist, high and mighty college professor that teaches racial hatred at Haaavvvd.

  97. #97
    On July 28th, 2009 at 7:36 pm, T-Bone said:

    Obama is using this episode to make his point. The officer should use it to make his point. The media will make the point they want which will benefit Obama.

    Net effect:

    Obama= good

    Gates= only looks like an arse because white man keeping him down

    White Cop= keeping the black man down so we must do more for the black man

    Race relations will be improved in the same way that electing a black man to President did. Nada.

  98. #98
    On July 28th, 2009 at 9:32 pm, radio relay said:

    Instead of beer, why not fried chicken and watermelon?

    Wouldn’t be any less racially patronizing and stereotyping!

  99. #99
    On July 28th, 2009 at 10:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    It just keeps getting better and better. ABC News (“All Barack Channel”) is reporting that Gates is half Irish and related to Crowley!

  100. #100
    On July 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm, jangar said:

    Officer Crowley should take a que from his fellow officer, the black lady cop, who voted for Obama…

    NO THANKS DICKWEED

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